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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:20am On Sep 06, 2022
rvp2018:
For retributive justice yes the commission of inquiry is useless but making wide ranging recommendation to avoid the repeat is what they are meant.When issues are criminal, systemic and structural like Kenya state capture a quasi judicial inquiry is the way to go...not just a normal inquiry.A tribunal that can investigate the truth led judges
As if we don't know that inquiry reports just get shelved...

If you want to destroy state capture, just watch how Ghana does it. Cut the money flow and see them squabble
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 12:58pm On Sep 06, 2022
The new Colgate Palmolive factory at Lagos free zone. More factories like indomie headquarters and research facility, the second expansion of Kellogg's plant, a huge flour mill and a cartoon factory are just a few of the factories that would be built soon at Lagos free zone now that the big prize(anchor tenant lekki port) is done.

The anchor tenant lekki deep sea port has completed their project and set to start operations this month.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by volina(f): 2:05pm On Sep 06, 2022
Nairobi Raising

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:45pm On Sep 06, 2022
Not of all of them get shelved. Kenya elections has been hailed as one world most transparent for example - it's product of international commission of inquiry. South Africa - Truth and Reconcilliation inquiry - has been hailed for solving many deep seated problems.

Ghana state capture was largely dealt with by the strongman Rawling - who simply purged - killing and exiling - the entire political/economic elite of Ghana - without a due process - just mob lynching.

Kenya has to deal with it's own challenges within the legal framework - and I cannot think of any other way - apart from quasi-judicial inquiry. Such a commission should be headed by eminent chief justices - and those names should be publicly shamed or tried - where the standards of proof is lower than in criminal trials - not convincted but recommend for criminal trials wherever possible but more importantly recommendation made to parliament and regulatory bodies to entangle the private and public sector from tiny elite in the future - by for example disallowing public servants and their relatives from engaging in private business.

Just40:
As if we don't know that inquiry reports just get shelved...

If you want to destroy state capture, just watch how Ghana does it. Cut the money flow and see them squabble
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:51pm On Sep 06, 2022
We dont want Ghana purge- Jerry Rawling - basically dealt with entire political and economic elite through firing squads - and exiled even more - Ghana suffered huge brain drain.

"He and the AFRC ruled for 112 days and arranged the execution by firing squad of eight military officers, including Generals Kotei, Joy Amedume, Roger Felli, and Utuka, as well as the three former Ghanaian heads of state; Acheampong, Akuffo, and Akwasi Afrifa.[10][4]

These executions were dramatic events in the history of Ghana, which had previously suffered few instances of political violence. Rawlings later implemented a much wider "house-cleaning exercise" involving the killings and abduction of over 300 Ghanaians."
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 4:02pm On Sep 06, 2022
rvp2018:
if [b]they can get over Somali irredentism they would thrive in Kenya..[/b]Somalis are very honest and brave people...true Muslim.. maybe just too brave..but when you consider what Somalis have done the last month to stop Uhuru attempted coup..it akin to heroism of Gen Mohammed in 1982...when he stormed out of long military strategy meeting..went to confront Raila coup plotters and killed many of them...there after he rose to be chief of staff despite limited education
Imo this may already be happening. South B and Nairobi West are filled with Somalis from all over Holland, the UK, the US and other places. Liberal Europe isn't good for their psyche- their young tend to crash and burn in those environments.
Also as they become more exposed they realize our educational system gives a behavioral foundation completely missing in Sweden or Scandinavia where I'm sure you know anything goes.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:19pm On Sep 06, 2022
rvp20182:
Not of all of them get shelved. Kenya elections has been hailed as one world most transparent for example - it's product of international commission of inquiry. South Africa - Truth and Reconcilliation inquiry - has been hailed for solving many deep seated problems.

Ghana state capture was largely dealt with by the strongman Rawling - who simply purged - killing and exiling - the entire political/economic elite of Ghana - without a due process - just mob lynching.

Kenya has to deal with it's own challenges within the legal framework - and I cannot think of any other way - apart from quasi-judicial inquiry. Such a commission should be headed by eminent chief justices - and those names should be publicly shamed or tried - where the standards of proof is lower than in criminal trials - not convincted but recommend for criminal trials wherever possible but more importantly recommendation made to parliament and regulatory bodies to entangle the private and public sector from tiny elite in the future - by for example disallowing public servants and their relatives from engaging in private business.
what Rawlings dealt with was corruption and the best way to deal with the canker of corruption is what Rawlings did.

With state capture, you have to destroy the wealth base of a group of people and denounce the credibility of others .... This way, you get result
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:20pm On Sep 06, 2022
Yes their wild nomadic spirit is hard to be confined like in places Europe. They dont make excellent workers because of their pride - and are natural businessmen. Those in US and middle east thrive better because it easier to start business. Kenya and Africa offers them huge opportunities for their enterprising & nomadic spirit.

kikuyu1:
Imo this may already be happening. South B and Nairobi West are filled with Somalis from all over Holland, the UK, the US and other places. Liberal Europe isn't good for their psyche- their young tend to crash and burn in those environments.
Also as they become more exposed they realize our educational system gives a behavioral foundation completely missing in Sweden or Scandinavia where I'm sure you know anything goes.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:34pm On Sep 06, 2022
Corruption is not a problem that goes away. You have to build institutions that can independently fight corruption - for ages. Firing squad in this age of course is not acceptable. Death sentences are not even acceptable in Kenya anymore.

The genesis of kenya state capture in 60s - with
1) Transfer of wealth from colonial settlers (kenya was direct colony unlike most of Ghana) - some political elite - basically transferred huge land/companies/wealth from colonial master to themselves - same thing happened in South Africa and Zimbwabwe. The Kenyatta for example simply took over 0.5 to even 1m acres of land - these were land meant to redistribute back to all the landless.
2) When they were done that grabbing the colonial era wealth - in mid 1970s - kenya had commission of inquiry popularly known as Ndegwa(Public Service Structure and Remuneration Commission (1970-71) - that basically because Africans were behind Asian and white in enteprise - civil servants who were often the only educated africans - would be allowed to own business. Something akin to South Africa BEEE thing.

What Ndegwa commission did was basically make civil servants who suppose to be regulators and arbitrers in the market - the players - the conflict of interest - the regulatory capture - has meant we have capatalism that has not delivered. Most big companies are owned politicians - or top civil servants - who are suppose to be umpires in the market.

Liberalization of the 90s - didnt help much - as the same crew took over the privatisaiton - added former state enterprise to their enormous wealth.

The only saving grace and refuge for most kenyans then became the informal sector - jua kali in kenya - and this where we are.

The solutions therefore is to
1) Fully embrace the informal sector (Hustler Revolution) - grow it to SMES - finally to have large formal sectors emerge from it
2) Kill the mostly fake formal sector by forcing them to compete equally, pay taxes equallyh and adhers to rules like everyone else. Fix the market failures. Kill monopolies and such anti-competition stunts.
3) Retain or attract only formal sector that trulys plays by the market rules.

So Ruto manifesto is to spend money supporting informal sector - kill the state captured formal sectors by fixing the marke- only those can compete without state or incest - will thrive - and economy will finally realize the full promise and potential as capitalist economy.

Just40:
what Rawlings dealt with was corruption and the best way to deal with the canker of corruption is what Rawlings did.

With state capture, you have to destroy the wealth base of a group of people and denounce the credibility of others .... This way, you get result
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 5:14pm On Sep 06, 2022
@samorobo.... You see today we have loadshedding... Now you can say something about generators grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae2: 6:41pm On Sep 06, 2022
jl115:
@samorobo.... You see today we have loadshedding... Now you can say something about generators grin grin
Just get yourself a generator man. How hard is that?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 8:51pm On Sep 06, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 9:01pm On Sep 06, 2022
Tanzania
Ordinary ordinary stuff





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjUYg6oY78
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 9:39pm On Sep 06, 2022
Tanzania
Biggest 5 star hotel in east africa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1ptySNI6o
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:58pm On Sep 06, 2022
GeneralDae2:
Just get yourself a generator man. How hard is that?
I have one muppet... But luckily for me my line doesn't get loadshedding
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:01am On Sep 07, 2022
Some residential communities of Tema


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNIHz80NEkM
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 12:57pm On Sep 07, 2022
HAIYYEEE!? WTF happened to Jacon's face? Some say he fell on his face on Monday after the judgement. While I don't want to speculate it may be genetic-look at Jacon Jr.
He says its a non cancerous growth.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:20pm On Sep 07, 2022
AkwaIbom State, south south Nigeria One of the smalles state in Nigeria, New Ten Lane Road in #AkwaIbom State, Idongesit Nkanga Avenue

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Baller254: 2:30pm On Sep 07, 2022
Mene mene tekel

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 7:53pm On Sep 07, 2022
Kazikazi:
[s]oh,now it's no more about English spellings?
Am happy to see how u learn stuff from me. Next time I will teach you why English grammar can't develop a nation. I will teach u for free the same way I taught u how foolish it is for a grown up man to wear a wig,and more worse is seeing educated grown up man called a judge wearing a wig in a hot,humid,and semi desert nation in equator.

I will keep on teaching u guys for free,u need my knowledge[/s]
Pure gibberish.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022:
Kazikazi:
Tanzania
Biggest 5 star hotel in east africa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1ptySNI6o
Anything with the title BIG/BIGGEST(development-wise) in EA, leave it for Kenya.

Check this for instance, not the biggest in Kenya but definitely bigger than your biggest 5star.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E86hb5zhjc

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:29pm On Sep 07, 2022
Just40:
tautology of the deranged grin

Changaa made you a dwarf whose mental faculty failed to develop
Try Exercise your hobbitopic brain cells. Don't just copy every bit of a thing I tell you.

DWARF.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:34pm On Sep 07, 2022
kikuyu1:
HAIYYEEE!? WTF happened to Jacon's face? Some say he fell on his face on Monday after the judgement. While I don't want to speculate it may be genetic-look at Jacon Jr.
He says its a non cancerous growth.
Rao was involved in a small accident.
stroke consumed Rao jr's left part.

That man is going through a lot.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:38pm On Sep 07, 2022
New Expressway inner road.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:22pm On Sep 07, 2022
Shma2022:
Try Exercise your hobbitopic brain cells. Don't just copy every bit of a thing I tell you.

DWARF.
as usual... Lazy come back of the deranged

Zombie
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:27pm On Sep 07, 2022
vankelvin:
See dress kiss like bed spread grin
grin grin

In a very hot country!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:28pm On Sep 07, 2022
Shma2022:
Rao was involved in a small accident.
stroke consumed Rao jr's left part.

That man is going through a lot.
I know why Kenyans rejected him..

https://diasporamessenger.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Raila-and-Magufuli.jpg

https://cdn.standardmedia.co.ke/images/thursday/railas_close_ties60537d7c3b8a0.jpg
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40:
It's always a beauty to drive on the Awoshie- Anyaa- Ablekuma Expressway..
More than 14 years now and the road is in great shape still


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AZNIpsgcd8
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:32pm On Sep 07, 2022
Tell me I am going to loose the elections without telling me..

https://litkenya.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Polish_20210318_91849058.jpg
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:33pm On Sep 07, 2022
Kazikazi, I see you down there... grin wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:47pm On Sep 07, 2022
Just40:
as usual... Lazy come back of the deranged

Zombie
Don't force engagements with me. If I choose to engage you, you won't even last one page before you show a clean pair of heels. #you should be celebrating my lack of interest in engaging short nonentity buffoons like you.

Now go and do something constructive and stop wasting your time here. cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:48pm On Sep 07, 2022
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