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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by christistruth01: 3:56pm On Sep 09, 2022
hammer567:


WE DONT KNOW THAT BECAUSE, NO TIME.


We know it was in the News at the time
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by baralatie(m): 3:57pm On Sep 09, 2022
hammer567:



YES, EVERY MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT WERE MURDERED, YOU DID NOT HAVE A PARLIAMENT ANY MORE.


YOU DID NOT GIVE HIM TIME TO CREATE TRANSITION GOVERNMENT EITHER.

HE WAS MURDERED LESS THAN 6 MONTHS LATER.
Since the federal military government known as supreme military council was sworn in.
There will be no need for a parliamentary election nau!
And concerning the change of government the supreme military government came by coup what else did you expect.Another military came
So who do you blame
Because no where did the military supreme government said it wanted to return power or conduct elections
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by rummmy: 3:57pm On Sep 09, 2022
He was killed by northerners just because he is Igbo.....igboman did not kill una saduana ...
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nickyvil: 3:58pm On Sep 09, 2022
What you are writing is crap go back to decree 1966 section 34, this Is what birth the military power and the end of regionalism. All this was now put under military control, with this state can be created. Without the decree 1966, 1967 won't come alive.

hammer567:


WHAT YOU ARE WRITING IS CRAP.


GOWON CAME WITH DECREE 14 OF 1967 WHICH BROKE NIGERIA INTO 12 STATES AND ENDED REGIONALISM.

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 4:01pm On Sep 09, 2022
nickyvil:
What you are writing is crap go back to decree 1966 section 34, this Is what birth the military power and the end of regionalism. All this was now put under military control, with this state can be created. Without the decree 1966, 1967 won't come alive.



I AM ENDING MY DISCUSSION HERE.


PLEASE, STOP TELLING LIES IN THIS INFORMATION AGE, YOU WILL BE CAUGHT LIKE A PETTY THIEF.


GOOD BYE!

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Ilaje1: 4:01pm On Sep 09, 2022
ebufa:



Ironsi did not abolish the regions........he instituted military admins in the regions....it was gowon and awolowo who created the 12 ststes ....effectively burying the regions....afonja lier...!!!

Mumu plenty for here. Obfuscating facts region with states. Before Ironsi, each region was independent hence they had their premiers. But Ironsi instituted Unitary government by appointing Governors who are answerable to him, they are not independent anymore. Hence central govt decides everything. That's the unitary they are talking about. You can have more states while in federalism. Some people are just closed minded that it is affecting their reasons faculty.

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by christistruth01: 4:02pm On Sep 09, 2022
hammer567:



YOU ARE VERY STUPID FOR THAT FEDERAL GOVT INPUT.


GO AND READ IRONSI DECREE 34, HE ENDED FEDERATION FOR REPUBLIC.


ODE!


Gen Ironsi also stopped the Cabinet Nominated Acting Prime Minister Dipcherima from Borno from taking Power

Dipcherima had been nominated as the Acting Prime Minister by the remaining Cabinet of Ministers on the advice of Attorney general Elias

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/1966-coup-ironsi-rejected-nominee-replace-slain-prime-minister-balewa-mbazulike-amaechi/amp/

Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Truthdeypain: 4:04pm On Sep 09, 2022
Wahala90:


Not true. Watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yth7MB2axOo

The only yoruba man alive who is not a yoruba man. Dele Farotimi I keep mentioning his name. This guys balls belong to Zeus, all his political discourses and comments have always been on point. A great mentor.

We will continue to kill them with the truth, their propaganda and lies will continue to choke them to death. Because in all their trying to save shame they know that they have no truth in them only evil and hypocricy.

When you have spent a couples of decades of planet earth and never seen an honest yoruba person( even the church going ones, who fall under anointing and do deliverance, it seems that spirit of tribalism reigns supreme over religions and truth). You tend to almost worship one when you find that one person who carries a different blood.

Dele Farotimi as well as Fajuyi. (If the stories I have read about him are true, cause I have never known yorubas to show such hospitality in the face of being branded Omo Ale and possibly being killed.

Yoruba Lagba to the few who suppress their internet tribalist traits and call white white and black black cool
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Biodun556(m): 4:04pm On Sep 09, 2022
GboyegaD:


The major thing was Ironsi master minded the coup as such, no one can say who exactly killed Balewa.

Biodun556, the killing of Balewa wasn't the cause of the Civil War. It was the cause of the June 1966 counter coup that led to the death of Ironsi.

The civil war was because Yakubu Gowon was made the head of state instead of Ogundipe a Naval officer who was his senior in the military rank and files. Ojukwu felt it was not right and couldn't condone the cheating as such, called for a cessation of Eastern Nigeria from the entity Nigeria.

If Ironsi was not killed, will Yakubu have become head of state?
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Ilaje1: 4:05pm On Sep 09, 2022
obyno82:


Look Ironsi never removed federalism let us get it in perspective Ironsi's unitary decree only centralized the civil service. It was actually Gowon that removed federalism as the dismantled the regions and created 12 states. He centralized the resource revenue distribution because the Eastern Region that had Oil was a breakaway region and he wanted to block the oil revenues from reaching the Biafran government, but after the civil war ended they never reverted back to the former revenue sharing formula and unfortunately that was what has been the sharing method till now. Let us say the truth and allow the man rest in peace

Centralizing power is a unitary govt. Each region was not independent anymore. Federal govt controls everything instead of each region controlling her region. You see facts steering at you in the face, you still looking what's not lost because of propaganda. No wonder Naija is getting worse with people who prefer to go with tribal sentiments. He probably made a mistake, accept it and move on.

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by christistruth01: 4:08pm On Sep 09, 2022
hammer567:



CRYING IS YOUR BIRTH RIGHT AND INHERITENCE, IRONSI IS GONE, WORRY ABOOUT 2023.


THIS YOUR CRYING STRATEGY STARTED WITH BLAMING GEJ, EVEN WHILSTBUHARI WAS IN POWER.


YOU LEFT ALL YOUR LEADERS THAT MURDERED IRONSI AND RULED FOR DECADES TO BLAMING A MAN THAT TRIED TO MANAGE A NATIONAL CRISIS THAT FOLLOWED THE 1966 COUP D ETAT.


WELL, YOU ARE IRRATIONAL AND ILLOGICAL, IRON WAS IN POWER FOR LESS THAN 6 MONTHS D HE SPENT THE TIME TOURING NIGERIA FROM NORTH TO SOUTH BEFORE HE WAS MURDERED.

I was explaining to you how it was Gen Ironsi that unconstitutionally dismantled the Regional System and the attempt to install a new Prime Minister Dipcherima as provided for by the Constitution

And you changed the topic when I provided the evidence of Mbazulike's Testimony as a minister in Balewa's Government
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 4:09pm On Sep 09, 2022
christistruth01:


I was explaining to you how it was Gen Ironsi that unconstitutionally dismantled the Regional System and the attempt to install a new Prime Minister Dipcherima

ALL LIES AND SENTIMENT, TYPICAL ABOKI.

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by christistruth01: 4:12pm On Sep 09, 2022
hammer567:


ALL LIES AND SENTIMENT, TYPICAL ABOKI.

I
I am from the South

Did you read Mbazulike's Testimony of how Gen Ironsi stopped Dipcherima from taking Power as the Acting Prime Minister according to the Constitution as the one the surviving Ministers had nominated?

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Ilaje1: 4:13pm On Sep 09, 2022
hammer567:


WAS IRONSI ELECTED OR MILITARY DICTATOR?


STOP ABUSING BASIC INTELIGENCE WITH SENTIMENT.


SECOND WAS OJUKWU THE REGIONAL GOVERNOR OF EASTERN REGION UNDER IRONSI?


DID THE SW HAVE A MILITARY REGIONAL GOVERNOR?

DID THE NORTH HAVE A MILITARY REGIONAL GOVERNOR?

SO, HOW DID IRONSI ABOLISH REGIONALISM, VIA FEDERALISM TO REPUBLICANISM?

Did those regions have governors before Ironsi? What's the difference between governors and premiers?

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Truthdeypain: 4:14pm On Sep 09, 2022
Iceberg3:
It's obvious long now that the north ain't really the enemies of the south but the yorubas especially the ymm....

This particular op daily job on here is to spread lies and false tales against the Igbos... everyday he does his best to pitch every other tribe against the Igbos...and failure shall always be his portion...you will never escape the judgement of God

Are you guys kids or what? na Today your eye just dey clear just dey realize these obvious facts, the decency to carry out their evil agendas sef with a bit of cunning and clever no dey. When you hate people so much you tend to bury the very hypothalamus itself them no get sense.

Left for me NORTH go rule NAIJA till 3054 all this noise sef no dey necessary. Na who go hear am pass definitely not IGBO man. Looting govt Funds and stacking Billions of Dollars did not make the IGBO MAN. It still has not made the TRIBES that are well known for it.
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nickyvil: 4:17pm On Sep 09, 2022
There is no lie in what I said, everybody can get copy of the decree law, its all over the place.. I'm not supporting any tribe or ethnicity. I'm not biased. It is what it is.. Most of the leaders in the past are selfish and only fight for their pocket including Awolowo. The fact still remains, Ironsi abolished self ruled and regional rules.


hammer567:



I AM ENDING MY DISCUSSION HERE.


PLEASE, STOP TELLING LIES IN THIS INFORMATION AGE, YOU WILL BE CAUGHT LIKE A PETTY THIEF.


GOOD BYE!
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by 2elliot: 4:19pm On Sep 09, 2022
Biodun556:
The man that removed federalism and replaced it with unitary system

He failed to prosecute the killers of Tafawa Balewa because they were Igbos setting the stage for revenge and civil war
If the military, today, decides to wipe out the current crop of corrupt politicians, you will still blame the Igbo man and would say that they were saint. In your myopic mind, you think that regionalism would have been better than what it is obtained now. But because you lack history and even how the psychic of the black man works, you think that Nigeria would have been an eldorado, an heaven on earth. But believe me, it would have been worse. Far worse than it is obtained. Because the black man is a curse upon himself. He will always find a reason to be lawless and unproductive. It is not the Igbo man that has kept every black African nation on earth to be unproductive.
Regionalism was already showing symptoms of failure when regional politicians were beginning to be greedy and thuggish. The Akintoyes and the Awolowos of that time were starting brute and senseless politics(remember the wild wild west). Power was already getting into the heads of regional politicians, and it was only a matter of time before it would have exploded. In fact, dissolving regionalism helped to destroy those who would have made the power and resources of their regions their private properties.
Stop being an slowpoke. If you love regionalism so much, why don't you fight for it? Azikiwe has come and gone, and now you have that chance to make history by fighting to bring back regionalism.

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by JealousCobra(m): 4:23pm On Sep 09, 2022
olatuns2017:



The mad man that destroyed our regional system of Government


Awolowo launch TV station the same year with Spain

But this mad guy and his folks put us into mess


Ibos can never be president in Nigeria

Mark it

If APC (unity beggers) rigs ObiDatti out in 2023 elections, IPOB, UGM and ESN will be a joke as to compare on what will be on ground then grin

Bookmark this Post, everyone and tribe is equal according to Nigeria constitution.. nothing like ibo won't rule nonsense.

Am not an Igbo man but I was born there, I dey their back full time.

All we need is young and intelligent man that will pilot the tedious affairs of this country.

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by lailo: 4:26pm On Sep 09, 2022
EndsarsReloaded:


What are you talking about? Zik contested and won the majority and would have become the Western premier before the infamous cross carpeting. A Fulani was the first mayor of Enugu, so that unification has always been there. What we are talking about was the abolishing of semi autonomy the regions enjoyed before Gowon created 12 states.
u can imagine Zik becoming western premier when the east is there and Awolowo and co are in the west. What the east can never take undecided

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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by vicfajeze: 4:34pm On Sep 09, 2022
Biodun556:
The man that removed federalism and replaced it with unitary system

He failed to prosecute the killers of Tafawa Balewa because they were Igbos setting the stage for revenge and civil war
Hope ur mouth no go kill รบ?
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by PARADIZEPRIEST: 4:37pm On Sep 09, 2022
PARADIZEPRIEST:
THE 1966 EVENT IS PURELY ACTIONS OF INDIVIDUALS IN MILITARY THAT CAUSED DISORGANISATION OF NIGERIA UNITY BY ALL TRIBES IN THE MILITARY IN 1966. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRIBE,IS PUREly AND MILITARY QUEST FOR GOVERNANCE POWER TO BCOM EXCESSIVELY RICH.WHO ARE the EXCESSIVELY RICH IN MAIJA TODAY? ALL THE MILITARY HEADS E.G IBB, GOWAN, OBJ ,DANJUM,IKEWACHUKWU,MAWA,ABACHA,DIYA, BUHA,YARADUAS,ETC ALL OF THEM HAVE STREETS NAMED AFTER THEM ALLOVER NIGERIA. MANY IBOS IN GOVT WERE VICTIMS INCLUDONG OKOTIEBOR. It must nEva happen again ever. sad
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by olatuns2017: 4:50pm On Sep 09, 2022
Biodun556:
Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi (middle) during an army training exercise at the School of Infantry,Warminster England, where he took a company commanders course in the 1950s.



Go back to Biafra

Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by faste: 5:02pm On Sep 09, 2022
pongwa:
he only played the script of the colonizers
You nail it,bigots in this forum would not reason...the british masterminded the coup to disrupt our development.
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Fortruth: 5:04pm On Sep 09, 2022
Biodun556:
The man that removed federalism and replaced it with unitary system

He failed to prosecute the killers of Tafawa Balewa because they were Igbos setting the stage for revenge and civil war

Who told you that Blackie?

Do you even know the meaning of unitary system?

Is that removing the Regions and making 12 states and waging war against a people?


FOOLISH stinking Nigger you are
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 5:08pm On Sep 09, 2022
Ilaje1:


Centralizing power is a unitary govt. Each region was not independent anymore. Federal govt controls everything instead of each region controlling her region. You see facts steering at you in the face, you still looking what's not lost because of propaganda. No wonder Naija is getting worse with people who prefer to go with tribal sentiments. He probably made a mistake, accept it and move on.

Oga stop trying to play semantics. the context of the argument is the claim that Ironsi dismantled regions which we know obviously was a lie. The culprit was darling Gowon, you cannot attack Ironsi and exonerate Gowon that too is tribal bias you are also exhibiting as well. don't form saint here.
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 5:09pm On Sep 09, 2022
SmartyPants:


The level of control was much higher. Regional governments had a high degree of autonomy not only in running their civil services but also in expenditure. They could execute policy directions of their own, similar to State governors of today.

The military governors were just subordinates who served at the whim of the military head of state.

So we are in agreement that even in the parliamentary settings the premier too reported to Lagos
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 5:10pm On Sep 09, 2022
hammer567:




VERY VITAL POINT, YOU RAISED, THE REGION WRE ANSWERABLE TO PARLIAMENT IN LAGOS.


IRONSI JUST ADDED MILITARY STRUCTURE TO REGIOANALISM.

We are in agreement here. The fact that people are so quick to say that he abolished regions which was Gowon's action in its entirety
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Deadlytruth(m): 5:13pm On Sep 09, 2022
Wintertime:


If history is to be teach in every school. Each school will have a different side of history


Now they lied the man whose tenure didn't last and after his death

Each region still has their premier leader

Yet they accuse Aguiyi Ironsi

Please who and who were the premiers of the Northern, Eastern, Midwestern and Western Region during and after Ironsi's reign?

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