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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:10pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
I will choke you with facts/stats grin grin

AGE
Eriksen 30
Payet 35

LEAGUE STRENGTH
Eriksen - Dutch league, EPL and Serie A
Payet - French league and EPL (just 18 months)

FREE-KICK DUTIES SHARED WITH
Payet - Error 404
Eriksen - Kane, Modric, Bale, Dier, Perisic, Martinez, Barella, Bruno, Ronaldo


CLUB FREEKICK GOALS
Payet - 14
Eriksen -16

FREE-KICK GOALS FOR COUNTRY
Payet- 2
Eriksen - 4


Can we move to the next AM attribute? grin grin
But in those 18 months in England, Payet scored free kicks against Man Utd and Liverpool(two top teams).

Eriksen in close to 8 seasons in England has never scored a free kick against a top 6 side.

As for international free kick goals scored, Eriksen has played 8,700+ minutes for Denmark with 4 direct free kick goals scored. He scored in friendlies against low ranked teams like Scotland and Georgia & Poland. The only free kick goal he scored in a proper football game was against 92nd ranked Armenia.

Payet has played 2100+ minutes for France with 2 direct free kick goals against Russia and Cameroon. Payet’s persistent injuries has kept him away from his national side that is way more talented than Eriksen’s Denmark. We aren’t even sure Eriksen would make the French squad in his prime.

In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal in every 2,200 minutes for Denmark

Payet scored a direct free kick goal in every 1050 minutes for France.

As for club football in England(non farmer’s league)

Payet has scored 6 direct free kick goals in 4,981 mins in England.

Eriksen has 11 direct free kick goals in 25,713 mins in England.

In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal every 2,338 minutes in England.

Payet scored a direct free kick goal every 830 minutes in England.

I hereby rest my case. cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by everton4life(m): 3:13pm On Sep 21, 2022
Are you freaking kidding me? undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:00pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
But in those 18 months in England, Payet scored free kicks against Man Utd and Liverpool(two top teams).

Eriksen in close to 8 seasons in England has never scored a free kick against a top 6 side.

As for international free kick goals scored, Eriksen has played 8,700+ minutes for Denmark with 4 direct free kick goals scored. He scored in friendlies against low ranked teams like Scotland and Georgia & Poland. The only free kick goal he scored in a proper football game was against 92nd ranked Armenia.

Payet has played 2100+ minutes for France with 2 direct free kick goals against Russia and Cameroon. Payet’s persistent injuries has kept him away from his national side that is way more talented than Eriksen’s Denmark. We aren’t even sure Eriksen would make the French squad in his prime.

In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal in every 2,200 minutes for Denmark

Payet scored a direct free kick goal in every 1050 minutes for France.

As for club football in England(non farmer’s league)

Payet has scored 6 direct free kick goals in 4,981 mins in England.

Eriksen has 11 direct free kick goals in 25,713 mins in England.

In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal every 2,338 minutes in England.

Payet scored a direct free kick goal every 830 minutes in England.

I hereby rest my case. cheesy grin
You used 3+ days to come up with these points that are weaker than a penis that just ejaculated. grin

30 year old Eriksen has 20 Freekicks goals playing in the best leagues alongside great set pieces takers while 35 year old Payet played 98% of his football in farmers league as the only set piece taker for his clubs.


Eriksen >>>>>> Payet
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Searchingvictor: 4:10pm On Sep 21, 2022
U guys don't forget argument....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:19pm On Sep 21, 2022
Bombblacks:
Seems you are really good in this FPL stuff. Tried it once but couldn't continue.
This is my 3rd season. It takes time to understand and master it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlaqFaze: 4:20pm On Sep 21, 2022
airmark:
Busquets has been defensively useless since time immemorial. Hazard just glided past easily, similar thing Sane did last time. Jorginho is even better defensively than this spineless DM that couldn't stop Hazard grin

No wonder Man UTD deployed a player to be following him up and down for 90 mins. grin


https://i.imgflip.com/rpgfo.gif
Glided pass easily over goals and assist...nice one grin

That's how he'll continue to glide pass Madrid's starting xl
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:30pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
You used 3+ days to come up with these points that are weaker than a penis that just ejaculated. grin

30 year old Eriksen has 20 Freekicks goals playing in the best leagues alongside great set pieces takers while 35 year old Payet played 98% of his football in farmers league as the only set piece taker for his clubs.


Eriksen >>>>>> Payet
Like I don’t have things to do outside this godforsaken place?

You have been parroting this lie that Eriksen shared free kicks with other players but that’s not true.

There are two problems with that theory. The first one is if he’s so good at it, he wouldn’t need to share and again, it depends on which side of the pitch the free kick is situated viz-a-viz his weak foot.

I like how the facts always manage to conspire against you and destroy your narrative.

See for yourself. cheesy grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:47pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
Like I don’t have things to do outside this godforsaken place?

You have been parroting this lie that Eriksen shared free kicks with other players but that’s not true.

There are two problems with that theory. The first one is if he’s so good at it, he wouldn’t need to share and again, it depends on which side of the pitch the free kick is situated viz-a-viz his weak foot.

I like how the facts always manage to conspire against you and destroy your narrative.

See for yourself. cheesy grin
Bruno is one of the best PK taker in the world but he shares the duties with CR7....oya explain cheesy

Payet is older, healthier, played 97% of his career against farmers, had no competition, and played more games.

Eriksen is the better free kick taker. EOD.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:55pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Bruno is one of the best PK taker in the world but he shares the duties with CR7....oya explain cheesy

Payet is older, healthier, played 97% of his career against farmers, had no competition, and played more games.

Eriksen is the better free kick taker. EOD.
Ronaldo is better than Bruno and Cristiano is the better taker. In the two games Bruno got the ball, the manager(Ten Hag) wanted it so to help Bruno’s poor form as at then.

Your cognitive dissonance is what is being brought to question here. After lying for 3 days that Eriksen shared his free kick duties with 40 different players, statistics have actually revealed he took more direct FK shots than Payet but scored way less than Payet. cheesy grin

In 15/16 & 16/17, Eriksen scored 2 miserable direct FKs from 46 direct FK shots in the PL. Payet scored 3 direct FKs from 34 direct FK in the PL.

You are about the only football fan who thinks 2/46 is a higher rate and a higher accuracy than 3/34.

Choke who with stats? cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:06pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Bruno is one of the best PK taker in the world but he shares the duties with CR7....oya explain cheesy

Payet is older, healthier, played 97% of his career against farmers, had no competition, and played more games.

Eriksen is the better free kick taker. EOD.
Older
Healthier
Farmers
No competition
More games.

None of these disproves why Eriksen scored way less from direct free kicks than Payet when both were in the PL.

Payet spent only 18 months in the PL and scored way more against PL opponents. He went back to France in the second half of 16/17 and still didn’t miss a step.

I so much love statistics. cheesy grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:15pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
Ronaldo is better than Bruno and Cristiano is the better taker. In the two games Bruno got the ball, the manager(Ten Hag) wanted it so to help Bruno’s poor form as at then.
Bruno played PK while CR7 was on the field AND CR7 did same while Bruno was on the field.

Messi allowed Suarez, Neymar and even Sanches take some freekick.

In summary, it was shared with other freekick expert not just anybody.


Your cognitive dissonance is what is being brought to question here. After lying for 3 days that Eriksen shared his free kick duties with 40 different players, statistics have actually revealed he took more direct FK shots than Payet but scored way less than Payet. cheesy grin
Kane, Modric, Bale etc all played and scored Freekick at Tottenham. He shared it with them.

In 15/16 & 16/17, Eriksen scored 2 miserable direct FKs from 46 direct FK shots in the PL. Payet scored 3 direct FKs from 34 direct FK in the PL.

You are about the only football fan who thinks 2/46 is a higher rate and a higher accuracy than 3/34.

Choke who with stats? cheesy grin
AGE
======
Payet 35
Eriksen 30


Club Games
===========
Payet 569
Eriksen 399

Game-winning freekick
===================
Payet 3
Eriksen 5


Take your L in peace cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:42pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
Older
Healthier
Farmers
No competition
More games.

None of these disproves why Eriksen scored way less from direct free kicks than Payet when both were in the PL.

Payet spent only 18 months in the PL and scored way more against PL opponents. He went back to France in the second half of 16/17 and still didn’t miss a step.

I so much love statistics. cheesy grin
Ok, so show us their career statistics grin grin grin

Who scored more free-kicks?

Who played more games?

Who played against better team's/GKs?

grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:46pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Bruno played PK while CR7 was on the field AND CR7 did same while Bruno was on the field.

Messi allowed Suarez, Neymar and even Sanches take some freekick.

In summary, it was shared with other freekick expert not just anybody.




Kane, Modric, Bale etc all played and scored Freekick at Tottenham. He shared it with them.



AGE
======
Payet 35
Eriksen 30


Club Games
===========
Payet 569
Eriksen 399

Game-winning freekick
===================
Payet 3
Eriksen 5


Take your L in peace cheesy cheesy
Now it has become a game winning free kick? cheesy grin

How can your idol take 22 different direct free kicks in a 16/17 season and scored 0 goals? The annoying thing is you tried to blame it on sharing.

What has sharing gotta do with 0/22 hit rate in 16/17? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 5:50pm On Sep 21, 2022
Searchingvictor:
U guys don't forget argument....
E be like sey you no know Illi. mitable and E. xpert17... Argument till the next match. cheesy grin

Person wey wan die jam person wey go bury am.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:50pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Ok, so show us their career statistics grin grin grin

Who scored more free-kicks?

Who played more games?

Who played against better team's/GKs?

grin
We don’t care about career statistics.

Your narrative started with Payet always played in Ligue 1(farmer’s league) barring 18 months in the toughest league in Europe.

While he was in the PL, he scored more from direct FK goals from fewer shots than Eriksen. There’s nothing more to add since we have been able to establish that.

Someone said the best way to compare the two is the actual number of free kicks they had taken when they were together in the same league and I agree with that theory.

It’s illogical to look at career stats when we don’t know how many FK shots were taken in those years by each player. We know the stats in the PL and those stats say Payet is more accurate at scoring from direct FKs than Eriksen.

QED!!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:00pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
We don’t care about career statistics.

Your narrative started with Payet always played in Ligue 1(farmer’s league) barring 18 months in the toughest league in Europe.

While he was in the PL, he scored more from direct FK goals from fewer shots than Eriksen. There’s nothing more to add since we have been able to establish that.

Someone said the best way to compare the two is the actual number of free kicks they had taken when they were together in the same league and I agree with that theory.

It’s illogical to look at career stats when we don’t know how many FK shots were taken in those years by each player. We know the stats in the PL and those stats say Payet is more accurate at scoring from direct FKs than Eriksen.

QED!!!!
Ok, they don't play free-kicks in France. Lol

Your amala-logic won't work, with all available stats covering their career, Eriksen is the better free-kick taker.

30-year-old Eriksen scored 20.

35-year-old Payet scored 16.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:09pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
Now it has become a game winning free kick? cheesy grin

How can your idol take 22 different direct free kicks in a 16/17 season and scored 0 goals? The annoying thing is you tried to blame it on sharing.
How can your 35-year-old idol play 99% of his career in Ligue 1 and scored just 14 free-kicks?

grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:12pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Ok, they don't play free-kicks in France. Lol

Your amala-logic won't work, with all available stats covering their career, Eriksen is the better free-kick taker.

30-year-old Eriksen scored 20.

35-year-old Payet scored 16.
They play FKs in France but we don’t know the ratio of how many direct FK shots to how many direct FK scored. We are talking about their FK accuracy not the longevity of their careers.

In statistics, you need to be accurate. You just don’t throw numbers together. I have presented an empirical evidence that shows Eriksen took 46 FK shots and scored only 2 goals from it in the PL while Payet was in England.

The number of appearances or number of minutes do not predict the number of direct FK shots taken. Age does not also accurately determine the number of direct FK shots taken.

You have to be specific instead of throwing every shït in the air and hoping one would stick. If you have the accurate number of direct FKs taken by both Eriksen and Payet throughout their careers, then we can explore that option.

For now…..Payet >>>>>> Eriksen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:17pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
How can your 35-year-old idol play 99% of his career in Ligue 1 and scored just 14 free-kicks?

grin cheesy
14 FKs scored from how many FK shots?

100? 200? 30000? 5 million?

Your theory fall on its face. We don’t know how good or poor 14 FKs are until we know the total number of direct FKs taken.

This is why your point is illogical.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:19pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
They play FKs in France but we don’t know the ratio of how many direct FK shots to how many direct FK scored. We are talking about their FK accuracy not the longevity of their careers.

In statistics, you need to be accurate. You just don’t throw numbers together. I have presented an empirical evidence that shows Eriksen took 46 FK shots and scored only 2 goals from it in the PL while Payet was in England.

The number of appearances or number of minutes do not predict the number of direct FK shots taken. Age does not also accurately determine the number of direct FK shots taken.

You have to be specific instead of throwing every shït in the air and hoping one would stick. If you have the accurate number of direct FKs taken by both Eriksen and Payet throughout their careers, then we can explore that option.

For now…..Payet >>>>>> Eriksen.
Search the internet, you will see his Ligue 1 FK stats.

Your statistics didn't consider
- the age ( giving him edge as per experience and no taken)
-no of games played
-strength of opposition
-strength of league
-teammates who can play freekick thereby putting pressure on him

Oga rest, Eriksen >>>>>> Payet grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:22pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
14 FKs scored from how many FK shots?

100? 200? 30000? 5 million?
Payet is 5 years older than Eriksen and the undisputed free kick taker for his clubs and you are here asking who played more. cheesy cheesy cheesy


Your theory fall on its face. We don’t know how good or poor 14 FKs are until we know the total number of direct FKs taken.

This is why your point is illogical.
But your theory is accurate, comparing Eriksen's worst Free kick year WITH Payet's best free-kick year.

Why don't you use 2014? grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 6:25pm On Sep 21, 2022
BlaqFaze:
Glided pass easily over goals and assist...nice one grin

That's how he'll continue to glide pass Madrid's starting xl
Your Spanish Jorginho, Busquets, is a customer. A spineless one that allows all sorts of entries into your defence. Even Meunier knows. grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 6:48pm On Sep 21, 2022
Captain Maguire can never accept responsibility, always shifting the blame.


Not my captain angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Searchingvictor: 6:54pm On Sep 21, 2022
adebayo201:
E be like sey you no know Illi. mitable and E. xpert17... Argument till the next match. cheesy grin

Person wey wan die jam person wey go bury am.
Na coogar and elampawa dey run town those years.
Be like na wetin dem born be these
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlaqFaze: 7:02pm On Sep 21, 2022
airmark:
Your Spanish Jorginho, Busquets, is a customer. A spineless one that allows all sorts of entries into your defence. Even Meunier knows. grin
Your greatest player dey average 1 goal per year in Laliga cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 7:11pm On Sep 21, 2022
BlaqFaze:
Your greatest player dey average 1 goal per year in Laliga cheesy
They said Busquets was spineless since over 8yrs ago. grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:29pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Payet is 5 years older than Eriksen and the undisputed free kick taker for his clubs and you are here asking who played more. cheesy cheesy cheesy
Age has nothing to do with ability.

Expert17:
But your theory is accurate, comparing Eriksen's worst Free kick year WITH Payet's best free-kick year.

Why don't you use 2014? grin grin
It so happened that the only period Eriksen and Payet were together in the same environment/facing the same opponents coincided with Eriksen’s worst year.

What a coincidence!!! cheesy grin

In 2014, Eriksen and Payet weren’t in the same league, in the same environment facing the same level of opponents.

This is logic, not beer parlor gists. 2016/17 wasn’t Eriksen’s worst year by the way. He had many other disgraceful performances when taking direct free kicks.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlaqFaze: 7:31pm On Sep 21, 2022
airmark:
They said Busquets was spineless since over 8yrs ago. grin
you keep hawking one screenshot like a disgraced market woman

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:33pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Search the internet, you will see his Ligue 1 FK stats.

Your statistics didn't consider
- the age ( giving him edge as per experience and no taken)
-no of games played
-strength of opposition
-strength of league
-teammates who can play freekick thereby putting pressure on him

Oga rest, Eriksen >>>>>> Payet grin
Another excuse.

Team mates who can play free kick put pressure on Eriksen? In no time, you would blame the cleavages of female football fans on the stands as one of the factors that distracted Eriksen from scoring.

Eriksen shot blanks in 2016/17 and 2017/18. cheesy grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:39pm On Sep 21, 2022
Harry Maguire releases another banger.

His PR works harder than Kante. Their work rate is the combined effort of Kante, Essien and Ji Sung Park moulded together.

Now, De Gea’s communication is the reason Maguire hasn’t played so well. Vidic and Rio never had this problem. They played with De Gea when DDG was still very new in England and couldn’t communicate in English.

If you have a British passport in the PL, you can play shit for many many years and there would be people saying you are a world class player.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:41pm On Sep 21, 2022
Illimitable:
Another excuse.

Team mates who can play free kick put pressure on Eriksen? In no time, you would blame the cleavages of female football fans on the stands as one of the factors that distracted Eriksen from scoring.

Eriksen shot blanks in 2016/17 and 2017/18. cheesy grin
He shot blanks in 2 seasons but still has more free-kick goals than Payet despite playing almost 200 games less.

I love your jokes cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:48pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
He shot blanks in 2 seasons but still has more free-kick goals than Payet despite playing almost 200 games less.

I love your jokes cheesy cheesy
Payet had more FK goals than him in the PL(the best and toughest league in Europe).

We don’t know how Eriksen would have thrived in Ligue 1 until he plays there. Many thought Messi would score 500 PL goals in one season at PSG, he scored only 6 league goals.

Therefore, the only accurate comparative stats can only be in the PL when both players faced the same officiating, same league, same opponents, same environment.

And when we compared their stats in that period, Eriksen ate grass, Payet strolled into the PFA team of the season with a mid table team like West Ham.

#Levels. cheesy
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