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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:27am On Sep 28, 2022
zuchyblink:
you have no business analysing soccer. Resting them because they pushed caterpillar grin I didn't want to make the mistake he made last time. Started the big boys and later introduce the young ones when they were already weak and introduced with caution. Rodri and Busquets were there to support them. If they no born am well he should start Gavi,Pedri and Nico at the same time in the world cup
Gavi was an important player when Spain qualified for the World Cup so what’s your point ,Abi no be big boys dem Dey play against for world cups qualifiers ?

Starting big boys wey Dey play badly ,you didn’t watch the game ,big boys wey Portugal collect midfield from their hand till the small boys enter

What did ferran torres and Sarabia did ,Nico played better than them

Rodri that went to play CB cheesy

You don’t like young players but the same young players made their national team to win a game while your so called matured players where playing nonsense at the first half

Smh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 9:32am On Sep 28, 2022
komekn:
Height is not speed, strength and or physical resilience with stamina and endurance.

Ngole Kante is probably 5"5 maybe less but he is one of the best midfielder in the world.

In all honesty Nwakali would absolutely struggle in League two
Nwakali would not struggle in League 2... A Swiss Club was interested in signing but the coach that wanted him moved to another club so negotiations broke down..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 9:33am On Sep 28, 2022
I stan with @Komekn on this rock grin. @Charles, abeg leave Nwakali alone. cheesy. I do understood that luck plays its role in all of this, but it would be folly not to look at the facts before us. As coach Komekn said, it's been 7 years people. We should be seeing Nwakali in the colors of a first tier team, regularly, if he's that exceptional. He's only a year younger than Ndidi. Ndidi was at Genk, and he's been playing for Leicester for 5 years. Now if you have a problem with his age, ask our resident researcher, Jihday, he passed the MRI. It's not his fault the MRI got it wrong. grin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:36am On Sep 28, 2022
Meliforme:
Flexibility is key.

Jose Peseiro strategy was direct play. Our organization on the pitch showed a team that trained principally to utilize the direct play strategy. This is seen in the manner at which we transitioned from defense to attack. The transition was quick. Again we utilized more of zonal marking which goes together with direct play. Our zonal marking system nullified the Algerians, but the discipline to calmly execute the zonal marking strategy some of the times, was in want. Our ability to maintain calm and discipline to stick to our philosophy was greatly tried by the Algerian hostilities.

Guys i tell you that Jose Peseiro perfected his strategy. I believe the players perfected that in training. A big thumbs up to him. Possession football was never in his plans.

Jose Peseiro plans worked well in the early minutes of the first half. The Algerians seemed to have adopted a similar strategy, but having seen that they can't compete with us using direct play approach, switched to possession football. Flexibility is key.

I want us to know that this is an experiment. It's just a friendly.
Well analyzed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:40am On Sep 28, 2022
Nonsense wey we play for 2nd half. Iwobi kon turn MTN. Covered for Bassey 3ice. Onyedika come in turn Maguire. Smh. Their 21 kept attacking yet no be attacker. Dive timing seems to be a p for our two gks. Moffi no fit ball pass 60mins to me. Nacho sef.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:49am On Sep 28, 2022
Truidstar:
Well analyzed.
Thank you, Truidstar.
You have eyes for good analyses.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by wayodude(m): 9:51am On Sep 28, 2022
Watched the game and tactically JPES gets 8/10 - the team shape was good, no question.

For tactical Implementation the team gets 6/10 - let down by the attack not pressing as a unit. They worked hard but sometimes not cleverly.

For individual performances without writing reams,

Iwobi was the star of the show.

Moffi, Lookman, Simon and Iheanacho should know by now that once the press is on they have to join in instantly. One second delay and 'your man' will be free to receive the ball and comfortably pass the ball through the lines, making your teammates look stupid in the process.

Iheanacho is clever but not a hard enough worker imo.

Onyeka did okay. Needs encouragement and better fitness.

Akpoguma and Bassey are competent and very competitive. Akpoguma especially is quietly streetwise. He is a strong asset. Bassey hassles well but gets beaten from time to time. That doesn't hurt him though because of his rapid recovery rate. The central defence was fine, no problem there.

Fullbacks Ola Aina offered more going forward than Sanusi, but that's not a surprise as Sanusi had to manage Mr Riyad Mahrez. Tough gig. They both did okay for the most part.

Uzoho. We all know now we have a major problem. All the good work done by the team can and has been undone when your last line of defence routinely turns what should be a basic no frills save into a global disaster.
We have effectively been knocked out of the
2019 AFCON - Akpeyi's token dive for Mahrez free kick.
2021 AFCON - Okoye getting beat from 40 yards with clear view of the flights of ball from boot to net!
2022 World cup Qualification - Uzoho pretty must dived over a routine shot letting the ball squirm underneath his body.

...and then yesterdays Uzoho masterclass in ball dodging.

Until we fix this problem we will not reap the reward of any progress made in other parts of the pitch, and I don't see how we fix it anytime soon.

Sad sad times beckon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by comodo: 10:05am On Sep 28, 2022
komekn:
Since his exceptional exploits in the 2015 World U17 cup, that's near 8 years ago.

We are still waiting, Why are we still waiting for nearly a decade, is every coach in Europe blind. And only the NFF have � � two eyes❓ please explain, since you know more than anybody else.❓❓

Arsenal signed him on 2015/16 on a long term discovered " bad market" didn't let him stay at Hale End.

So tried to recoup and do some padding he went on loan to Maastricht in Eerste Divisie, 2016/17 did average he moved up to Venlo in the Eredivise 2017/18 but failed to convince anybody and January 2018 was unceremoniously dropped back to Eerste division with Maastricht who at the end of the season were not interested. He was essentially very poor.

2018/19 he had the indignity of having to play youth football with Porto B and was struggling to get game time.

September 2019 ,Arsenal found a get out clause and dumped him with Huesca , essentially the 4 year contract was up and he was let go.

2019/20 Huesca found him to be wanting in the low level Segundo and loaned him out to a even lower club in January 2020. He finished the season at Alcorcon quite anonymously nobody in the league was interested 2020/21

2021/22 he continued at Huesca with the ignominious accolade as lowest paid player in the team bar one player, he played 7 games or thereabouts for Huesca and even ended his contract prematurely in April.

This is the player you are calling outstanding.

Somehow and someway inexplicable he found himself with a career of mediocrity in the SE for the AFCON.

He has played 7 games for Ponferradina FC his new club 2022/23 and he is already getting accolades as being the next this and that and put on the same level and even better than Iwobi by some here.

Let's put things in context I truly believe if you brought some of our outstanding players from the NPFL they would stand out in this poor quality league.

If you brought teenage boys from the EPL academies they would stand out in this league and even generate interest in January transfer window and be gone.

I have been biased and unfair in dismissing several Nigerian origin players as being not good enough for the SE.

If we use the Nwakali bench mark it's not a question who will be selected for the SE but who will not. If you put Onyedinma, Onomah, Oviemuno, Aneke, Amos, Bashiru, Oko-Flex, etc, etc. In this Segundo league they will all look outstanding and way above this league.

So get things into perspective I will not talk about money that will be over kill. But a slight reminder Iwobi wages per week are double the wages of entire weekly wage bill of Ponferradina FC
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Agreed 100% But as a man wey dey vast for football mata. Who and who do we bring in here and now to help Iwobi ministry for that MF. At least like 3 or 4. Even from championship and League one. It go help. Everytime since 7yrs since 7yrs. If my calculations are right the Nwakali was 17yrs 7 yrs ago.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by comodo: 10:36am On Sep 28, 2022
I have followed Kc Nwakali for a long time. One thing is he has never been a bad player. Yes I mean it. From his time in Netherlands to Portugal etc, he has never been a bad player. He is only a lazy player. Therefore, no coach will ever want to have such in the modern game. He is a very lazy player. But with the ball at his feet, he can pick a pass no matter the range. But he is a very lazy player. He doesn't play in sync with his teammates. He doesn't put in any shift, he doesn't open up to be a passing channel. So what changed this season?? Nothing much really, he just started putting his body on the line, putting in tackles, has become one of the main passing channels for his team, this therefore has made him to be seen more in games. When u compare 2022/2023 heat map to 2021/2022 you will see the difference. Just like Iwobi did to his stamina, he needs to work on it too. When some talk about the young man, you will think that his first touch is as poor as Nachos, or that he passes like Ekong.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:42am On Sep 28, 2022
joelsteron:
WATCH Mikel do 360 on 4 Tottenham players



I do not see why Yusuf Alhassan or Nwakali cannot fit into this mode or role.

Meanwhile, someone should beg Frank lampard for me. IWOBI is the only 10 eagles have. Don't convert him for us o
obi Wan! #legend
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:43am On Sep 28, 2022
You forgot his 2020/21 heatmap. Literally dragged Alcorcón out of relegation that season. He left and the next season in 21/22, they couldn't find a better replacement for him and they got relegated. Just facts.

So what we are witnessing in Nwakali this season didn't start this season. He first showed workrate improvements at Alcorcón in Early 2021, the second half of the 2020/21 season.

Iwobi and Nwakali have really taken their workrate levels to higher notches this season and so may it continue.


comodo:
I have followed Kc Nwakali for a long time. One thing is he has never been a bad player. Yes I mean it. From his time in Netherlands to Portugal etc, he has never been a bad player. He is only a lazy player. Therefore, no coach will ever want to have such in the modern game. He is a very lazy player. But with the ball at his feet, he can pick a pass no matter the range. But he is a very lazy player. He doesn't play in sync with his teammates. He doesn't put in any shift, he doesn't open up to be a passing channel. So what changed this season?? Nothing much really, he just started putting his body on the line, putting in tackles, has become one of the main passing channels for his team, this therefore has made him to be seen more in games. When u compare 2022/2023 heat map to 2021/2022 you will see the difference. Just like Iwobi did to his stamina, he needs to work on it too. When some talk about the young man, you will think that his first touch is as poor as Nachos, or that he passes like Ekong.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:45am On Sep 28, 2022
Lol... Finally someone here is thinking.

7 yrs ago, Nwakali was a 17 Yr old who just won the U17 WC in 2015.

In that same month he was wrapping up Cadet football, a 19 yrs old Iwobi was making his Super Eagles Debut under Sunday Oliseh.

November 2015 - Nwakali was at Chile 2015 U17 WC and Iwobi was at Arsenal already debuting for the Super Eagles.

Many don't realise this. Lol


comodo:
Agreed 100% But as a man wey dey vast for football mata. Who and who do we bring in here and now to help Iwobi ministry for that MF. At least like 3 or 4. Even from championship and League one. It go help. Everytime since 7yrs since 7yrs. If my calculations are right the Nwakali was 17yrs 7 yrs ago.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:01am On Sep 28, 2022
wayodude:
Watched the game and tactically JPES gets 8/10 - the team shape was good, no question.

For tactical Implementation the team gets 6/10 - let down by the attack not pressing as a unit. They worked hard but sometimes not cleverly.

For individual performances without writing reams,

Iwobi was the star of the show.

Moffi, Lookman, Simon and Iheanacho should know by now that once the press is on they have to join in instantly. One second delay and 'your man' will be free to receive the ball and comfortably pass the ball through the lines, making your teammates look stupid in the process.

Iheanacho is clever but not a hard enough worker imo.

Onyeka did okay. Needs encouragement and better fitness.

Akpoguma and Bassey are competent and very competitive. Akpoguma especially is quietly streetwise. He is a strong asset. Bassey hassles well but gets beaten from time to time. That doesn't hurt him though because of his rapid recovery rate. The central defence was fine, no problem there.

Fullbacks Ola Aina offered more going forward than Sanusi, but that's not a surprise as Sanusi had to manage Mr Riyad Mahrez. Tough gig. They both did okay for the most part.

Uzoho. We all know now we have a major problem. All the good work done by the team can and has been undone when your last line of defence routinely turns what should be a basic no frills save into a global disaster.
We have effectively been knocked out of the
2019 AFCON - Akpeyi's token dive for Mahrez free kick.
2021 AFCON - Okoye getting beat from 40 yards with clear view of the flights of ball from boot to net!
2022 World cup Qualification - Uzoho pretty must dived over a routine shot letting the ball squirm underneath his body.

...and then yesterdays Uzoho masterclass in ball dodging.

Until we fix this problem we will not reap the reward of any progress made in other parts of the pitch, and I don't see how we fix it anytime soon.

Sad sad times beckon.
Nice one bro,

But permit me to disagree a little, About Afcon 21, it was a slight deflection, And the bouncing of the ball right in front, He did react by getting a hand to it, But not strong enough to keep it out,


And again what are our Goalkeeper trainers, teaching them, to Help them reduthose same mistakes, And what are the recommendations given to themhuh

A competent personal trainer, will do a great lot for both of em

My two Cents
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:05am On Sep 28, 2022
Hmmm, I think Etebo should be recall for the next match, let's see how he plays under JP,

My 2Cents
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:09am On Sep 28, 2022
Nothing much to say about yesterday's game. A mix of disappointment and encouragement.... But I say these below.

Like had our second goal stood, we could have walked away with a victory.
And ofcos the refs were always gonna favour the Algerians as we literally were their guests.


- Our direct playing approach yesterday which is getting the ball quickly & vertically into the final third zones was an indication of Peseiro being aware of the fact that the midfield and set-up we paraded wasn't good enough to use the "Sustained" build up possession approach.
Man went strictly "swift vertical Forward-playing" and several of it came through Iwobi from midfield and others via the overlapping ball carries of Zaidu and Aina via the wings.

It has its perks but was always gonna be limited as it didn't afford us midfield control in the game. We literally struggled AGAIN to string passes together and most especially when chasing the game after Atal's goal.


- Akpoguma and Calvin Bassey needs to see more games together. They did okay playing for the first time as a pair. Onyeka didn't provide much cover for them.

- Iwobi gave everything again. Was as assertive in offensive phases, trying to make things happen vertically forwards just as he was also busy defensively covering passing lanes and Man marking.

- Frank Onyeka also gave as good as he got defensively. He covered grounds in terms of his marking, tracking and tackling but his positional indiscipline came to the fore again as he left Akpo and CB exposed time and time again.

Even Algeria's second goal was scored from the zone Frank Onyeka was meant to be covering. His DM zone.

Lad is a pressing machine and can cover grounds but perhaps that is also what contributes to him forgetting his primary duty in a game. He was meant to protect and occupy the zone in front of the defence when off the ball with the action close to your defensive third. Track anything entering that zone of yours and end it. That he didn't do enough and we paid for it.

Him giving away a penalty also for the equaliser means he has part blames in both goals. Sadly.


And when on the ball, he didn't contribute enough to our getting forward in our direct vertical playing approach. His distribution and passing range limitations was present again for all to see.



- Francis Uzoho I need not say much, do I? Our GK department NEEDS CRITICALLY INVASIVE SURGERY. Every shot thrown at them at vital moments in a game can end us.

Yes, I speak of Onyeka not covering his primary zone but for goodness sake, that is a Routine Save all day for most GKs. Terrible situation we find ourselves in as regards the GK issue.


- Terem Moffi had a good game. I love the way he really showed presence up top. Held up plays well. Took his goal well like a true poacher. The speed he used, coming from that Algerian defender's blindside during the ball bounce chaos in the box, to get in front of him and tap in showed great instinct and intelligence to attack space in the box. Also should have bagged an assist had Lookman's goal not been INCORRECTLY RULED OUT.


- Kelechi Iheanacho SHOULDN'T BE STARTING SUPER EAGLES GAMES. Tactically, he subtracts more than he adds. A technically gifted player but his tactical deficiencies outweigh the goodness of his sweet left foot.


- Jose Peseiro SHOULD REALIZE THAT UNTIL He addresses the tactical and technical needs of our midfield department, then he is going nowhere with this team.

The End... for now.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 11:16am On Sep 28, 2022
codemaniacs:
elyte89 did not say Alhassan is an upgrade... stop putting words in his mouth...

he said "Iwobi can’t do it alone"... which means he needs other midfielders on the pitch playing alongside him...

elyte89 did not mean replacing Iwobi and the coaches themselves need to ensure none of the players get injured by subbing them off and using a lean midfield does not help If the midfielders on the pitch get injured or sent off... Ihenacho should not be used as midfielder..

Super Eagles already have at least 10 midfielders. so only the coaches know why they don't call up at least 6 or 7 of them:

Iwobi
Nwakwali
Alhassan Yusuf
Obinna Nwobodo
Ramon Azeez
Onyeka
Ndidi
Tijani
Bonke
Onyedika
He said something like " imaging Alhasan or Nwakali playing with Iwobi (instead on Onyeka)"

And I replied that they are not an upgrade


So tell me sir, how is that putting words in his mouth?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joelsteron: 11:19am On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Nothing much to say about yesterday's game. A mix of disappointment and encouragement.... But I say these below.

Like had our second goal stood, we could have walked away with a victory.
And ofcos the refs were always gonna favour the Algerians as we literally were their guests.


- Our direct playing approach yesterday which is getting the ball quickly & vertically into the final third zones was an indication of Peseiro being aware of the fact that the midfield and set-up we paraded wasn't good enough to use the "Sustained" build up possession approach.
Man went strictly "swift vertical Forward-playing" and several of it came through Iwobi from midfield and others via the overlapping ball carries of Zaidu and Aina via the wings.

It has its perks but was always gonna be limited as it didn't afford us midfield control in the game. We literally struggled AGAIN to string passes together and most especially when chasing the game after Atal's goal.


- . Onyeka didn't provide much cover for them.

- Iwobi gave everything again. Was as assertive in offensive phases, trying to make things happen vertically forwards just as he was also busy defensively covering passing lanes and Man marking.

- Frank Onyeka also gave as good as he got defensively. He covered grounds in terms of his marking, tracking and tackling but his positional indiscipline came to the fore again as he left Akpo and CB exposed time and time again.

Even Algeria's second goal was scored from the zone Frank Onyeka was meant to be covering. His DM zone.

Lad is a pressing machine and can cover grounds but perhaps that is also what contributes to him forgetting his primary duty in a game. He was meant to protect and occupy the zone in front of the defence when off the ball with the action close to your defensive third. Track anything entering that zone of yours and end it. That he didn't do enough and we paid for it.


- Francis Uzoho I need not say much, do I? Our GK department NEEDS CRITICALLY INVASIVE SURGERY. Every shot thrown at them at vital moments in a game can end us.

Yes, I speak of Onyeka not covering his primary zone but for goodness sake, that is a Routine Save all day for most GKs. Terrible situation we find ourselves in as regards the GK issue.


- Terem Moffi had a good game. I love the way he really showed presence up top. Held up plays well. Took his goal well like a true poacher. The speed he used, coming from that Algerian defender's blindside during the ball bounce chaos in the box, to get in front of him and tap in showed great instinct and intelligence to attack space in the box. Also should have bagged an assist had Lookman's goal not been INCORRECTLY RULED OUT.


- Kelechi Iheanacho SHOULDN'T BE STARTING SUPER EAGLES GAMES. Tactically, he subtracts more than he adds. A technically gifted player but his tactical deficiencies outweigh the goodness of his sweet left foot.


- Jose Peseiro SHOULD REALIZE THAT UNTIL He addresses the tactical and technical needs of our midfield department, then he is going nowhere with this team.

The End... for now.
Akpoguma and Calvin Bassey needs to see more games together. They did okay playing for the first time as a pair

Iwobi gave everything again. Was as assertive in offensive phases, trying to make things happen vertically forwards just as he was also busy defensively covering passing lanes and Man marking.

Thank you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joelsteron: 11:21am On Sep 28, 2022
No question grin

PESEIRO get us a proper middle. Abeg

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:24am On Sep 28, 2022
Well, your reply was dishonest then.

Nwakali and Alhassan are Upgrades on Onyeka. Man Marking and tracking players are not the only skills a midfielder should have.


Utonwanne:
He said something like " imaging Alhasan or Nwakali playing with Iwobi (instead on Onyeka)"

And I replied that they are not an upgrade


So tell me sir, how is that putting words in his mouth?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 11:24am On Sep 28, 2022
Utonwanne:
He said something like " imaging Alhasan or Nwakali playing with Iwobi (instead on Onyeka)"

And I replied that they are not an upgrade


So tell me sir, how is that putting words in his mouth?
He could also mean a midfield trio of iwobi alhassan-yusuf/nwakali and onyeka.

You didn't ask you just assumed he was talking about midfield duo of nwakali and onyeka.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 11:25am On Sep 28, 2022
comodo:
Agreed 100% But as a man wey dey vast for football mata. Who and who do we bring in here and now to help Iwobi ministry for that MF. At least like 3 or 4. Even from championship and League one. It go help. Everytime since 7yrs since 7yrs. If my calculations are right the Nwakali was 17yrs 7 yrs ago.
He will evade the question. I have asked him many times to list of 10 midfielders and he go pretend like say he no see am.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:26am On Sep 28, 2022
You conveniently left out the part of Akpoguma/Calvin pair statement where I mentioned Onyeka didn't do a good enough job "positionally" covering for them as he left them exposed at times yesterday... Yet you come here and say, "Peseiro should get us a proper middle."


How will that happen when you lots keep protecting Onyeka as if he was Top notch yesterday? How please?


joelsteron:
No question grin

PESEIRO get us a proper middle. Abeg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:28am On Sep 28, 2022
Onyeka cost us a penalty yesterday. Mahrez scored from it.

Onyeka wasn't occupying his DM Zone. Atal scored from that zone.

Defensively he had his moments and did okay. But I am meant to believe he is a gem?? Based on what Holistic Performance exactly?

In key moments of the game, He cost us. Let that sink in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joelsteron: 11:34am On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
You conveniently left out the part of Akpoguma/Calvin pair statement where I mentioned Onyeka didn't do a good enough job "positionally" covering for them as he left them exposed at times yesterday... Yet you come here and say, "Peseiro should get us a proper middle."


How will that happen when you lots keep protecting Onyeka as if he was Top notch yesterday? How please?
Haba, man tried. Bur you're correct.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 11:35am On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Well, your reply was dishonest then.

Nwakali and Alhassan are Upgrades on Onyeka. Man Marking and tracking players are not the only skills a midfielder should have.
There's nothing dishonest about what I said. They overran our midfield and dominated proceedings, dictated play while we are defending throughout the match with occasional counters. Even when onyedika came come, it was still same thing.

Alhassan or Nwakali would have done no better if the were on pitch yesterday with same setup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:42am On Sep 28, 2022
They overran us because we easily gave the ball away constantly due to our inability to keep the ball and string passes together in a sustained manner. We didn't have the personnel in the middle alongside Iwobi for that.

Alhassan and Nwakali are built for the passing game. Highly technical on the ball and intelligent in possession plays plus they also offer enough in defensive phases.

Onyeka, on the other hand is no passing machine. He's built for destruction and tracking. He is a pressing machine with very limited passing range.


And Onyedika came in late on 85mins. What was he gonna do in the final 5mins + added time? What exactly? He is a CDM who's better on the ball than Onyeka but what exactly was gonna change in just 5mins for a kid MF making his official debut?

So yes, there was some dishonesty. Coz we both know Onyeka is a no ball-playing genius.

Utonwanne:
There's nothing dishonest about what I said. They overran our midfield and dominated proceedings, dictated play while we are defending throughout the match with occasional counters. Even when onyedika came come, it was still same thing.

Alhassan or Nwakali would have done no better if the were on pitch yesterday with same setup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 11:45am On Sep 28, 2022
codemaniacs:
He could also mean a midfield trio of iwobi alhassan-yusuf/nwakali and onyeka.

You didn't ask you just assumed he was talking about midfield duo of nwakali and onyeka.
Could?

You are not Mr. Elyte so you are the one with a lot of 'assumptions'. Nobody's POV is 100% accurate. Elyte is the only person in right position to throw more light so until then, stop assuming.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:47am On Sep 28, 2022
He tried because to most fans, na the man wey dey run around, dey Mark and dey put body in duels na him dey do past everybody. grin

But if you critically analyse the gaps and holes he leaves when he makes his movements sometimes and how positionally indisciplined he proved himself to be yesterday, you will realise that no be by gra gra. Football is more about intelligence than Gra gra.

When it comes to the Art of Positional Discipline in the CDM role, Ndidi definitely trumps Onyeka hands down.
I may analytically criticize Ndidi's underpar Ball-playing and limited passing range but he offers better than Onyeka defensively and is more positionally disciplined in the DM role compared to Onyeka.


joelsteron:
Haba, man tried. Bur you're correct.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:52am On Sep 28, 2022
Lol. Oya Elyte89, clear this up for them will ya bruv? Lol

Utonwanne:
Could?

You are not Mr. Elyte so you are the one with a lot of 'assumptions'. Nobody's POV is 100% accurate. Elyte is the only person in right position to throw more light so until then, stop assuming.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:55am On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Onyeka cost us a penalty yesterday. Mahrez scored from it.

Onyeka wasn't occupying his DM Zone. Atal scored from that zone.

Defensively he had his moments and did okay. But I am meant to believe he is a gem?? Based on what Holistic Performance exactly?

In key moments of the game, He cost us. Let that sink in.
The second goal was from a corner kick, how was Frank supposed to occupy a defensive zone when he was in the box defending? Plus Iwobi was the closer man and he didn't attempt to get near the shooter.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:58am On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Well, your reply was dishonest then.

Nwakali and Alhassan are Upgrades on Onyeka. Man Marking and tracking players are not the only skills a midfielder should have.
Nwakali is not an upgrade on Onyeka. Not today. Not last year.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 12:00pm On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Onyeka cost us a penalty yesterday. Mahrez scored from it.

Onyeka wasn't occupying his DM Zone. Atal scored from that zone.

Defensively he had his moments and did okay. But I am meant to believe he is a gem?? Based on what Holistic Performance exactly?

In key moments of the game, He cost us. Let that sink in.
Penalty occurs.

No, he didn't cause the second goal. Uzoho 'did a punch'. You are the one being dishonest
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