The Bible says u shall know the truth and it will set u free
Therefore if u are yet to do adult baptism,run to any living Faith church winners chapel near you and make enquiries..taking place on Saturday 26 NOVember
A word is not enough for the wise
Think am lying? Go and buy the book Newness of Life by bishop Oyedepo and learn
U won't be denied entry to heaven cause of ignorance, if u read this post, it means u know and allowed d devil deceive u that it's not important like Eve

Baptism takes place next week Saturday at all winners chapel living faith church..go there with you change of clothes by 7:30am..no African time

U are not part of the kingdom of God if u can do it and refuse to

For.more inquiries..call me 0816-982-7645

You may not be able to bring people to Christ by throwing words at them but by patiently opening their eyes to the truth of the gospel of Christ. Yes adult baptism is very important cos it is through baptism that our sins are washed away and a little baby doesn't know what is wrong or right

chiommy123:
You may not be able to bring people to Christ by throwing words at them but by patiently opening their eyes to the truth of the gospel of Christ. Yes adult baptism is very important cos it is through baptism that our sins are washed away and a little baby doesn't know what is wrong or right

Where exactly in did Jesus Christ or even John the Baptist tell state that which you claim in bold?

So what is the essence of Christ's death Stop teaching heresy, same way your bishop claimed the life of holy spirit is in anointing oil which caused his quarrel with Tunde Bakare.. you better open your eyes and embrace Christ and stop following pastors

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly in did Jesus Christ or even John the Baptist tell state that which you claim in bold?

even Jesus Christ was baptized as an adult though he had no sin in him leading us by example. Read your Bible sir

Don't argue or criticise..simply obey and watch as u come out of the water renewed and empowered

pasuma:
So what is the essence of Christ's death Stop teaching heresy, same way your bishop claimed the life of holy spirit is in anointing oil which caused his quarrel with Tunde Bakare.. you better open your eyes and embrace Christ and stop following pastors

Don't argue or criticise..simply obey and watch as u come out of the water renewed and empowered

chiommy123:
even Jesus Christ was baptized as an adult though he had no sin in him leading us by example. Read your Bible sir

You claimed that it is at point of baptism that sins are washed away. And I asked where in scripture that claim of yours comes from.

Yes, Jesus Christ was baptized and likely so also was Judas, so your point?,

SanctifiedSista:

Don't argue or criticise..simply obey and watch as u come out of the water renewed and empowered

Simply obey the foolishness of men? Are you for real?

Is the water from krypton or what?,

if u like make jest of what u hear.. GOD loves u and that's why HE made ur eyes see this thread, JESUS CHRIST did his own , be wise and listen to devil's here telling u it does not mata

Of course adult baptism is necessary if we are opportuned to get it but Oyedepo is not even a Christian in the first place that is where you got it all wrong!

Christians are to go out for preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door {Matthew 10:11-13} and they're to do so in pairs {Luke 10:1} they're not to be a part of the world's political system {John 17:14} and this is because if they do then they can't unite as one to propagate the Good News of God's own government since they're still supporting human government and secondly it will be impossible for them to LOVE their neighbours who are of the opposition parties {Mark 12:31} and the worst of it all is they will be divided since each of them has a party of his choice so the LOVE Christ commanded them among themselves will be shattered! John 13:34-35

This is why Mr David Oyedepo can't be a true Christian because he's involved in all these!

SanctifiedSista:
The Bible says u shall know the truth and it will set u free
Therefore if u are yet to do adult baptism,run to any living Faith church winners chapel near you and make enquiries
A word is not enough for the wise
Think am lying? Go and buy the book Newness of Life by bishop Oyedepo and learn
U won't be denied entry to heaven cause of ignorance, if u read this post, it means u know and allowed d devil deceive u that it's not important like Eve

Adult baptism, if by this you mean baptism by immersion, will not take you to heaven. The thief on the side of Christ did not do water baptism but Jesus promised him paradise. When Jesus said you have to believe and be baptised to be saved (Mark 16:16) He wasn't referring to water baptism necessarily.

You see, water baptism is the last doctrine of the law and the prophets because it was initiated by John the Baptist, the last prophet of the long line of prophets from Enoch. Jesus submitted Himself to be baptised because onus was on the LORD Jesus to fulfill the law and the prophets to prove He is the sinless lamb that takes away the sins of the world (as confessed by John himself).

Now we know that the doctrines of the law and prophets are types and shadows (Colossians 2:16-17) of things to come. So the natural question is, what was the baptism of John shadowing? What are those things to come at the time of John, that John's baptism preceded. Just as John was a herald of the LORD Jesus, so also was water baptism a herald of the something far far greater.

John the Baptist himself confessed:

Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Just as the passover sacrifice with lambs preceeded or heralded the sacrifice of our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ, the baptism of the HolyGhost and the baptism of Fire are the two baptisms that the baptism of water heralds or preceeds.

Now do we, as the Jews still following Moses, offer a lamb during the passover? No. Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ. Do we eat the roasted flesh of a passover lamb with bitter herbs as the Jews do? No, we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood when we celebrate the passover (what some call "holy communion" ). Jesus Himself said concerning this, "my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed" (John 6:55).

In this same manner are we to judge the baptisms in the HolyGhost and Fire which are the fulfilment of the baptism by immersion in water. But these are just two baptisms but Jesus referenced three baptisms (Matthew 28:19). Well baptism in the name of Jesus is the washing by the water of the word of God (Ephesians 5:26). The baptism in the name of the HolyGhost is the total takeover of your consciousness by the HolyGhost (Acts 1:8 ) and the baptism in the name of the Father is the baptism that completely transforms one's essence/nature into the essence/nature of the LORD Jesus and the Father (Hebrew 12:29, Revelations 1:11-16). The baptisms in the word (Jesus Christ) and in the HolyGhost are easily attained before the rapture but many will not attain the third baptism, the baptism by
fire, until the rapture (1 John 3:2) but a few will walk with God and attain it even before the rapture. Even now I believe there are people among us who are inching closer to the baptism of fire or have already attained it but are yet to manifest it on the orders of the LORD. I also believe that those who have attained the baptism of fire will not taste the corruption of death for they will be like Enoch and Elijah taken up by God straight to heaven.

So, don't get stuck on the baptism by immersion in water which is a shadow. You must be baptised in the Word, in the HolyGhost and in the Fire of the Father, if you must be pure enough to stand in the presence of the Father, the Son and the HolyGhost. Blessed are the pure for they shall see God (Matthew 5:8 )

efficiencie:

Adult baptism, if by this you mean baptism by immersion, will not take you to heaven. The thief on the side of Christ did not do water baptism but Jesus promised him paradise. When Jesus said you have to believe and be baptised to be saved (Mark 16:16) He wasn't referring to water baptism necessarily.

It is very very necessary (if you're opportuned) you must get baptized as in water immersion in the presence of multiple witnesses who will attest to it that you've dedicated your life to God through Christ's teachings and symbolized it by water immersion (baptism) Matthew 28:19

All must take in the accurate knowledge of God first. Both thieves executed beside Jesus knew him very well that's why they attested to the fact that Jesus is a miracle worker but only one of them is prepared to obey Jesus as King!

MaxInDHouse:


It is very very necessary (if you're opportuned) you must get baptized as in water immersion in the presence of multiple witnesses who will attest to it that you've dedicated your life to God through Christ's teachings and symbolized it by water immersion (baptism) Matthew 28:19

All must take in the accurate knowledge of God first. Both thieves executed beside Jesus knew him very well that's why they attested to the fact that Jesus is a miracle worker but only one of them is prepared to obey Jesus as King!

But the thief was not baptised. It was armed robbery that took him to the cross. If baptism was necessary and the theives were baptised they won't be on the cross for armed robbery unless you want to say that after baptism na to begin rob immediately. The thief was not baptised but he was granted entry into paradise. If baptism by immersion was that important so many Christians today would be Christians indeed...but we all see how folks who claim to be baptised are still perpetrating horrible acts of the flesh. Like one of my teachers used to say, if you go into the baptismal pool as a sinner you will come out as a wet sinner. The water does nothing. Who would you follow? John the Baptist or Jesus Christ? John baptises with water unto repentance but Jesus will baptise you with the HolyGhost and with Fire. If you like get soaked in water 1000 times if you are not baptised in the HolyGhost you will weigh as much as a tipper of sand when the trumpet sounds.

efficiencie:


But the thief was not baptised. It was armed robbery that took him to the cross. If baptism was necessary and the theives were baptised they won't be on the cross for armed robbery unless you want to say that after baptism na to begin rob immediately. The thief was not baptised but he was granted entry into paradise. If baptism by immersion was that important so many Christians today would be Christians indeed...but we all see how folks who claim to be baptised are still perpetrating horrible acts of the flesh. Like one of my teachers used to say, if you go into the baptismal pool as a sinner you will come out as a wet sinner. The water does nothing. Who would you follow? John the Baptist or Jesus Christ? John baptises with water unto repentance but Jesus will baptise you with the HolyGhost and with Fire. If you like get soaked in water 1000 times if you are not baptised in the HolyGhost you will weigh as much as a tipper of sand when the trumpet sounds.

You don't know what Christianity truly means that's why you're talking from the viewpoint of a churchgoer.
Do you know the teachings of Christ Jesus?
Well if you know i'm sure you will never like to be a Christian talkless asking for baptism.
It's after you've accepted Jesus' teachings that you go back into your inner room, pray to God secretly and dedicate your life to Him before you can ask for baptism not just getting into the midst of churchgoers and thinking of getting soaked in a pool.

Do you know that Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo and many other Nigerians claiming men of God aren't Christians at all?

John 3:5 except a man be born of water and the spirit, he shall not enter the kingdom of God.
Like I always say here, Christians should stop trying to interprete Jesus word literally.

SanctifiedSista:
Don't argue or criticise..simply obey and watch as u come out of the water renewed and empowered

Question and learn to rightly divide the word of truth. Don't just obey blindly and continue to wallow in ignorance. Even Oyedepo I believe unlearns and relearns.

I'll advise you to go listen to Abel Damina on YouTube on this subject and more. and Andrew wommack.

43Ronin:
John 3:5 except a man be born of water and the spirit, he shall not enter the kingdom of God.
Like I always say here, Christians should stop trying to interprete Jesus word literally.

Actually, the opposite should be the case. Christians ought to take Jesus Christ at His Word as that is the best understanding, to begin with when dealing with man. His disciples did so causing Him to then explain Himself to them even further. You should do as the disciples did too so Jesus Christ can explain Himself to you...

efficiencie:
Adult baptism, if by this you mean baptism by immersion, will not take you to heaven. The thief on the side of Christ did not do water baptism but Jesus promised him paradise. When Jesus said you have to believe and be baptised to be saved (Mark 16:16) He wasn't referring to water baptism necessarily.

For the umpteenth time, to the thief on the cross, Jesus Christ spoke of Paradise, an idea which is of God's Old Covenant Law of Moses - Luke 16 vs 19 - 31 and Deuteronomy 30 vs 15- 20 - and not the Kingdom of God nor Heaven which one cannot enter into except one is first born-again. You can easily figure this out for your own self by considering the fact that Jesus Christ died that day but didn't ascend to Heaven until about a week or two afterwards.

So unless you consider Jesus Christ a man who lies sometimes, you will for sure accept His every word as God's Truth, Words which He even said will Last forever.

Also, it does not matter either you immerse yourself in water or you sprinkle it, as John the Baptist instead made clear, the importance of the ritual is instead the marking of a one to signify change from following of the Old Way to instead following the New Way - Jesus Christ. - Matthew 3 vs 7 - 11

I baptise myself every morning..with soap and sponge..I am a new creature afterwards....

Everyday is a new day..

then if its necessary it should be done at the River jordan then.. Stop teaching Men's scripture.. The word of GOD is not as you think

MaxInDHouse:


It is very very necessary (if you're opportuned) you must get baptized as in water immersion in the presence of multiple witnesses who will attest to it that you've dedicated your life to God through Christ's teachings and symbolized it by water immersion (baptism) Matthew 28:19

All must take in the accurate knowledge of God first. Both thieves executed beside Jesus knew him very well that's why they attested to the fact that Jesus is a miracle worker but only one of them is prepared to obey Jesus as King!

pasuma:
then if its necessary it should be done at the River jordan then.. Stop teaching Men's scripture.. The word of GOD is not as you think

NO! It's anywhere we found a body of water! Act 8:36

matthew 3: 5--

5 People went out to him from Jerusalem and all Judea and the whole region of the Jordan. 6 Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.

were there no water in all the other area

MaxInDHouse:


NO! It's anywhere we found a body of water! Act 8:36

pasuma:

matthew 3: 5--

5 People went out to him from Jerusalem and all Judea and the whole region of the Jordan. 6 Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.

were there no water in all the other area

You're talking about the baptism by John not that of Christianity!

False doctrine, baptism is just symbolic. It does not mean anybody that is not baptize is not in christ.
Baptism and communion are only symbolic these are physical demonstration of the new birth and the remembrance of christ sacrifice.

efficiencie:

Now do we, as the Jews still following Moses, offer a lamb during the passover? No. Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ. Do we eat the roasted flesh of a passover lamb with bitter herbs as the Jews do? No, we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood whenever you we celebrate the passover (what some call "holy communion" ). Jesus Himself said concerning this, "my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed" (John 6:55).

When you say "Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ/we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood", is that not us not still following The Law which God gave Moses, to be A Law Forever?

Dtruthspeaker:


When you say "Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ/we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood", is that not us not still following The Law which God gave Moses, to be A Law Forever?

No jot or tittle will pass from the law and prophets without it being fulfilled (Matthew 5:18). Those were the words of Jesus Himself. Now if the law and prophets are to be FULFILLED then it means the law and prophets will at any point in time be in two states. The first state is the state of PROPHECY and the second state is the state of FULFILMENT. Now on the passover, the PROPHECY was the act of killing lambs and eating their meat as a sin offering but the FULFILMENT is the sacrifice of the LORD Jesus Christ and the eating of His flesh and drinking of His blood as a sin offering. So the question is would you live in the light of the PROPHECY or in the light of the FULFILMENT? If like the Jews, you don't believe in Jesus then you are living in the prophecy but if you believe in Jesus then you live in the fulfilment of prophecy. So yes, the law of the Passover is forever but in two states, the prophecy and the fulfilment. It's up to you to decide in which of the two states you want to live in.

efficiencie:

No jot or tittle will pass from the law and prophets without it being fulfilled (Matthew 5:18). Those were the words of Jesus Himself. Now if the law and prophets are to be FULFILLED then it means the law and prophets will at any point in time be in two states. The first state is the state of PROPHECY and the second state is the state of FULFILMENT. Now on the passover, the PROPHECY was the act of killing lambs and eating their meat as a sin offering but the FULFILMENT is the sacrifice of the LORD Jesus Christ and the eating of His flesh and drinking of His blood as a sin offering. So the question is would you live in the light of the PROPHECY or in the light of the FULFILMENT? If like the Jews, you don't believe in Jesus then you are living in the prophecy but if you believe in Jesus then you live in the fulfilment of prophecy. So yes, the law of the Passover is forever but in two states, the prophecy and the fulfilment. It's up to you to decide in which of the two states you want to live in.

You did not answer the question let me put it in another way, the question is
"DID CHRIST FOLLOW THE LAW When you say "Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ/we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood"?

I believe that the answers would be either "Yes He Did" or "No. He did not"!

Dtruthspeaker:


You did not answer the question let me put it in another way, the question is
"DID CHRIST FOLLOW THE LAW When you say "Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ/we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood"?

I believe that the answers would be either "Yes He Did" or "No. He did not"!

Yes He did na. Did you read my posts at all? It can be inferred from all that I typed. The law was given by the LORD Jesus to Moses and He, Jesus, is bound by His word to fulfill it. So yes, Jesus fulfilled the law.

efficiencie:


Yes He did na. Did you read my posts at all? It can be inferred from all that I typed. The law was given by the LORD Jesus to Moses and He, Jesus, is bound by His word to fulfill it. So yes, Jesus fulfilled the law.

▪︎Jesus Christ did not give the Law to Moses. Instead God, gave the Law to promise.
▪︎ Jesus Christ was bound to the Law because He was also born of the seed of Jacob/Israel and so was obligated to live by the Law much the same way everyone born of Israel is
▪︎ ...

Kobojunkie:
▪︎Jesus Christ did not give the Law to Moses. Instead God, gave the Law to promise.
▪︎ Jesus Christ was bound to the Law because He was also born of the seed of Jacob/Israel and so was obligated to live by the Law much the same way everyone born of Israel is
▪︎ ...

Jesus said no man has seen the Father. So who did Moses see on mount Sinai when he went to receive the commandments written by the finger of God? Who did Abraham entreat about Sodom and Gomorah's destruction? If no man has seen or encountered the Father in anyway save the Son and the Spirit of God remained unseen throughout the law and the prophets then the only part of the God head manifested to man is Jesus and this is also evident in the verse: Isaiah 48:16

This is my belief. Jesus is YHWH.

efficiencie:
1. Jesus said no man has seen the Father. So who did Moses see on mount Sinai when he went to receive the commandments written by the finger of God?

2. Who did Abraham entreat about Sodom and Gomorah's destruction?

3. If no man has seen or encountered the Father in anyway save the Son and the Spirit of God remained unseen throughout the law and the prophets then the only part of the God head manifested to man is Jesus and this is also evident in the verse: Isaiah 48:16

4. This is my belief. Jesus is YHWH.

1. So if no one has seen the Father we should instead believe that the one who gave Moses the Law was Christ? Are you for real?

2. Wait a second... do you realize that by believing Jesus Christ is the one whom these men spoke to, you are attempting to rewrite the book of the Law itself?

3. Now "No man has seen the Father" is also twisted to mean " No man has encountered the Father"? Yikes!

4. Jesus cannot be YHWH because Jesus Christ is a different and separate Law from YHWH.