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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by adeprof18(m): 3:42pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:

So, after Russia annexed eastern Ukraine,
1. It would result in automatic extinction of the Neo-Nazi's
2. Ukraine will decide NOT to join NATO
3. Ukraine and Russia would become the closest ally/friend

Who would guarantee Ukrainian security; Russia!?

That's why its called negotiation. They both discuss for peace to finally reign
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TenQ: 3:42pm On Oct 04, 2022
Krismas:
grin Crimea’s case was worse grin All Ukrainian military in Crimea ran over to Russia grin
Just like the Ibos in Nigeria has had enough. The Russians who occupy eastern part of Ukraine has had enough. Even west media does not carry their plight


What was the excuse of Russia in 2014 to annex Cremia?

Neo-Nazis!?
NATO!?

Russia is a bully!

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by jikins(m): 3:44pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:

You talk as if only Ukrainians are dying!
Do you also know how many thousand Russian families that has become fatherless!?
If the war was going well for Russia, why would they need to conscript men into their army?

Who started this war?

Why not ask the one who started the war to stop all hostilities?

You want Ukraine to give away ALL her seaports?
You want them to depend permanently on Russia to export even a grain of wheat?

Acknowledge the TRUTH, Russia needed the land as it gives them access to the warm ports for their Navy. They also needed a land ridge to Cremia. They also want the unification of ALL Russian speaking people.

Please tell me, what is Russia doing in Romania?

Don't be shortsighted, it's all part of the unification of Russia!

You are just speaking off point.

I never stated the war is going well for any side or one side has more deaths than the other these are just arguments in your head or stuff you imported from your other discussions. I only explain to you why the analogy you gave in response to Elon musk offer is miles away from what he said. Any other thing you see or read is from your own mind not mine
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Krismas(m): 3:45pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:

You are naive.

You think of Russia Nukes Kiev there would be peace?
That would be the beginning of worldwide terror. China will play the same script in Taiwan! North Korea will replay the script on South-Korea.

Hitler was condoned until the ww2 resulted!
grin U always here putting forward d arguments of the west. That’s ur own reality. U think u are the one reasoning it. But no. U are brainwashed
Why shouldn’t China take over Taiwan? And why shouldn’t North Korea take over South Korea? Why?
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by madridguy(m): 3:45pm On Oct 04, 2022
Zelensky is after his selfish interests.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TenQ: 3:46pm On Oct 04, 2022
adeprof18:


That's why its called negotiation. They both discuss for peace to finally reign
A one sided negotiation is Armed Robbery.

Is armed robbery a negotiation!?

Submit your money , phone and laptop or you die!

This is negotiation for you!?

Russia; Submit your lands and your seaports or you die!
Ukraine: yes sir
You: applause, what a beautiful negotiation!

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TenQ: 3:48pm On Oct 04, 2022
jikins:


If you had said that initially then, I would have taken you seriously. Thats why its called negotiations. Nothing was stopping the Ukraine President for telling Elon Musk "thats all well and good if they also pay for damages".
You forget that the lifeline of Ukrainan economy are the seaports: how do you negotiate that away?

You could as well disbanded Ukraine as a country.

What is your solution to this?
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by adeprof18(m): 3:49pm On Oct 04, 2022
saxywale2:

They tried getting Kyiv to take out Zekensky early on in the war when Ukraine was unprepared and failed. What makes you think Russia would get Kyiv now that Ukraine is well prepared and has been pushing Russia back?

It seems the only option left for Putin is to use nuclear. Would the world stand back and watch if that happens? We shall see.

They wanted to take it in a non destructive manner that was why they failed. They never thought they could meet such resistance. Thats why at the early stage you see Ukrainian protesting infront of Russian tanks and they were not harmed. That gave some Ukrainian chance to kill and burn some of the Russian troops and tanks.
Immediately after, Russia retreated to regroup and started a fresh assault just like they are regrouping now, when they resume their offensive, I know a lot of people here will respect Russia more.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TenQ: 3:50pm On Oct 04, 2022
Krismas:
grin Complete misinformation. U just making up all these.
Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine. It was a Russian city b4 den. Its not Russia infiltrating it.
Russia has recognized the autonomy of Donbas 8yrs ago. That why Kiev govt. waged a war on Donbas, to stop them seceding.
Part of ending the war, led to the Minsk agreement in-which Kiev government agreed to allow partial autonomy to Donbas. But later turned against their pledge. Part of Russia’s goal in the SMO is to restore the terms of the Minsk agreement. Which is autonomy for Donbas
USA used to be for Britain therefore, Britain has the right to reclaim America.

Nigeria was created by Britain, therefore, we should submit our sovereignity to them.

You logic presented nicely above!
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Regex: 3:50pm On Oct 04, 2022
pansophist:


Russia even though hasn't declared a formal war, is facing all Nato countries combined inside Ukraine, singlehandedly. Because Russia didn't carpet bomb Ukraine like the Americans did in Iraq and Libya doesn't mean Russia is weak. It takes nothing for Russia to do that, but Putin made it clear from day one that this is an SMO (special military operation) to demilitarise Ukraine. If Russia declares war, then what you said might be valid.

Btw, what do you understand by defeat? Let's see.

1. Russia has secured about 25 percent of Ukrainian land (over 110,000k sq kms), and if they secure Odesa, Ukraine will effectively become a landlocked country. The new territories contain over 2.6 trillion usd of Bauxite, manganese, and other commodities.

2. Russia added close to ten million citizens to its population from the region that ascended to Russia in the past referendums.

3. Russia even though haven't declared full war on Ukraine, has turned Ukraine into the most indebted country in Europe, with its citizens, millions of them scattered all around Europe as refugees.

4. Outside Ukraine, Russia has ignited the dawn of multipolar world order. The support Ukraine/ west has in the UN votes is proof, most of the world outside the west support Russia.

5. EU is suffering high inflation, a shortage of essential commodities for the first time since 1951, and the Euro has fallen to its 20 years low. Usd surpassed Euro for the first time in decades.

6. Power, water and food bills rose to 457 percent in the UK, and nearly 700k homes have filled for waivers. The number of people on welfare rose by 56 percent just in six months. All these without firing a single shot to Uk.

7. I don't even want to talk about Germany, they are the most forked up of all, but I guess you know about that if you refuse yourself to be blinded by msm. So please remind me again how exactly Russia is loosing? shocked

I think the UK being very deplomatic will soon start calling for peace between Russia and Ukraine. Even, as I am talking to you now, they have started debating the money they're sending to Ukraine. In fact they have banned asylum to people using the channel link because a lot of Ukrainian are using to leave their country. Tbh, the most bleeped country is Ukraine. They let America drive them to their end. It's a simple thing: who would you rather be your ally or enemy? Your neighbour who is just next door or someone who lives in another state?

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Advocate500: 3:50pm On Oct 04, 2022
Putin want peace? Joke of the century,you started a war that have no meaning to the of Russian, after discovering that the war is not as simple as you initially thought,you started seeking for peace.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by tianshie(m): 3:50pm On Oct 04, 2022
WriterNig:


You're a mo--ron. So maga trolls now represent the entirety of Americans? Did you even look up the identity of the dingbats whose tweets you copied? They're literally parroting tRump talking points. Like I said, you're a fo-ol.

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by jikins(m): 3:51pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:

You forget that the lifeline of Ukrainan economy are the seaports: how do you negotiate that away?

You could as well disbanded Ukraine as a country.

What is your solution to this?


Why are you so sure those people will vote to stay with Russia. Its very interesting that you can't even factor in the possibility of them voting to stay with Ukraine
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Krismas(m): 3:55pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:



What was the excuse of Russia in 2014 to annex Cremia?

Neo-Nazis!?
NATO!?

Russia is a bully!
grin Ukraine is not the only country bordering Russia. Hungary is there, why is Russia not hostile to the rest? Ukraine is weak allowing itself to be used as tool of the west to wage a proxy war against Russia. It has been going on for long. B4 Russia built Nord stream 1. Russian Pipelines to Europe went thru Ukraine. After paying taxes to Ukraine for use of their land Ukraine sometimes refuse to deliver the gas and sometimes they divert it. Switzerland ones took Ukraine to European court for diverting their gas. Ukraine has not paid up till date. All these actions are instigated by America, who want to stop Russian gas trade with Europe at all cost. That’s why dey blew up the Nord stream pipes.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by adeprof18(m): 3:56pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:

A one sided negotiation is Armed Robbery.

Is armed robbery a negotiation!?

Submit your money , phone and laptop or you die!

This is negotiation for you!?

Russia; Submit your lands and your seaports or you die!
Ukraine: yes sir
You: applause, what a beautiful negotiation!


The truth is person wey pass you pass you.
If they dont accept Russian terms of the peace deal, they will loose far more than that.
Zelensky saying if they have more weapons they can defeat Russia is crazy.
The reason Russia is bigger is cuz of what they have, same with US or anybody.
A beggar of weapon(Ukraine) will always beg while giver will never lack. If Nigeria have US Arsenal today, we will be called a superpower. There is no point fighting a lion when you don't have the tool to kill it.
He should have just take the offer to be evacauated by the west when Russia invaded, they will just change government and no one dies.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Regex: 3:56pm On Oct 04, 2022
pansophist:


I will rather Zelensky and Ukraine remain neutral, as it has been before the 2014 coup. You have to go out of this western mindset that one must belong to one side. You can be on your own and not a puppet to any. Before 2014, Russia and Ukraine are peaceful neighbors

Switzerland is one country who saw the bullshit of the West and decided to stay neutral (out of their way)
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by RepoMan007: 3:58pm On Oct 04, 2022
Hasn't Ukraine been neutral before Putin started sponsoring his ethnic group to instigate unrest and grab territories? What a useless proposal by musk. Russia is all about nukes and cannot handle Ukraine one on one.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by viodemus: 4:01pm On Oct 04, 2022
Elon musk aka ilona musk (according to that chenchen guy), talking about kruchev mistake in regards to Crimea, can't it be also said that Russia made a mistake in selling Alaska to the United States; but they can't take Alaska back. So only if you are not a top 5 country, then Russia can take land back.

Most of Russian land are conquered land. That part of history when you can take over people because you feel you are stronger, is over with.


Ukraine should not allow Russia take even 0.5 inch of land. This is an independence fight for Ukraine. If the fight lasts for 10 years, so be it.


Nigerian intelligence need to be advising our oga as to how to choose sides, because if Russia makes good on their threat on nukes, every country will have to choose sides. There will be no neutrals. The beast in western nations will surface.

America and allies should be aware that most igbos worldwide and maybe Nigerians worldwide, will undoubtedly support them and willing to join NATO if allowed to. Just package us some matured toys.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TenQ: 4:01pm On Oct 04, 2022
adeprof18:


The truth is person wey pass you pass you.
If they dont accept Russian terms of the peace deal, they will loose far more than that.
Zelensky saying if they have more weapons they can defeat Russia is crazy.
The reason Russia is bigger is cuz of what they have, same with US or anybody.
A beggar of weapon(Ukraine) will always beg while giver will never lack. If Nigeria have US Arsenal today, we will be called a superpower. There is no point fighting a lion when you don't have the tool to kill it.
He should have just take the offer to be evacauated by the west when Russia invaded, they will just change government and no one dies.
You are now speaking!
Russia is indeed a big bully, but sometimes, it is wise to take your stance and stand against a bully. Las las, he would kill you, but you will be respected henceforth


I once stood up t a big bully while in secondary school. That was the last time he crossed me. I had gained my respect. He could beat me hands down, but I was willing to die taking my blood from him.

A slave is one who cannot stand up to his oppressor!
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Gourdoinc(m): 4:03pm On Oct 04, 2022
I have learned to admit that though humans are capable of moments of intelligence and brilliance, they are majorly bereft of common sense and logic. We all need the war to end, but everyone keeps forgetting one thing, Russia is inside Ukraine and Ukraine isn't inside Russia.

The invasion should have never taken place in the first place. its unfortunate that the only pathway out of this is a full blown war, nuclear or otherwise. we will all perish simply because Russia invaded Ukraine and no other reason. Many who spoil for war don't realize they will be its victims, There is never a winner in War anyway, just a group with less deaths claiming victory over another with more death counts. It is a foolish world.

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Krismas(m): 4:04pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:

USA used to be for Britain therefore, Britain has the right to reclaim America.

Nigeria was created by Britain, therefore, we should submit our sovereignity to them.

You logic presented nicely above!
grin Wen was USA or Nigeria ever being for Britain? U talking trash. Go to Edostate, for example. You will find indigenous Yorubas in Edo. Thing is, Ofusus have been there long b4 edostate was formed. Its state creation that cut a part of ondostate and a part of bendelstate to form Edostate. So that’s wot happened in Ukraine. If u live in border towns, during state creation, u could find ur parlor being in Lagos state while your bedroom being ogunstate
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Masterito(m): 4:04pm On Oct 04, 2022
Kai common sense is indeed not common.
Krismas:
grin There were observers from the EU and they gave d elections thumbs up. Free fair and successful. If UN want they can do it again. The results will not change but Zelensky and NATO will not dare cod they know d truth grin
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by 9free(m): 4:07pm On Oct 04, 2022
citygarden:
You see now, when we're telling people supporting this comedian, we are called names. But it's now cleared that he is just using this war to cash out from the west not minding if his citizens are dying. Am very sure he has another country citizenship.
Israel citizenship

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Nobody: 4:09pm On Oct 04, 2022
@pansophist

I remember you saying something about this the last time. This guys actually want the war to continue & Americans living in America are now getting their eyes open gradually.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TheOgaBoss: 4:10pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:



What was the excuse of Russia in 2014 to annex Cremia?

Neo-Nazis!?
NATO!?

Russia is a bully!
Crimea originally belonged to Russia.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TenQ: 4:10pm On Oct 04, 2022
Krismas:
grin Ukraine is not the only country bordering Russia. Hungary is there, why is Russia not hostile to the rest? Ukraine is weak allowing itself to be used as tool of the west to wage a proxy war against Russia. It has been going on for long. B4 Russia built Nord stream 1. Russian Pipelines to Europe went thru Ukraine. [s]After paying taxes to Ukraine for use of their land Ukraine sometimes refuse to deliver the gas and sometimes they divert it. Switzerland ones took Ukraine to European court for diverting their gas. Ukraine has not paid up till date.[/s] All these actions are instigated by America, who want to stop Russian gas trade with Europe at all cost. That’s why dey blew up the Nord stream pipes.

The crossed are pure lies!
Europe pays for gas, then Ukraine diverts it and Russia and Europe wouldn't do anything about it. It's called giving a dog a bad name...

Belarus is a fine example of how you want Ukraine to be!?

Russia is so nice, they don't make puppets of presidents unlike the imperialist USA and NATO!

Myopic!

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Krismas(m): 4:10pm On Oct 04, 2022
Masterito:
Kai common sense is indeed not common.
grin Ur imagination on d matter is fake. The atmosphere was free and fair. Stop thinking it was under d barrel of a gun. And besides, if u want another one, am sure it can be arranged, just to clear ur doubt
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by xeju: 4:12pm On Oct 04, 2022
WriterNig:
@Elon Musk tweeted;







Ukraine's President @Zelenskyy UA replies;



The MSM & western media has led us to believe that the west & rest of the world is against Russia.
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by uchvic(m): 4:12pm On Oct 04, 2022
lhordspy:
Lol.

It is now i truly believe this clown zelensky is not worthy to be a president of a country, he should be somewhere on a stage sharing jokes to make kids laugh.


Man is not only been pushed by the west alone, i think he has a plan to run that country down. He doesnt want peace, he doesnt want solution, he just loves Russian military wiping out his citizens off the face of earth day by day through unthinkable ways to die. More like that is his own sexual fetish.

This is becoming more like those wacky nollywood movies, where some persons killed somebody's parent like 40years back, the victims child will now start doing househelp for the killers to revenge the death of the parent.

People should ask that man, zelensky, wetin ukraine as a country do am .He seems on a revenge plan, not only to destroy the country but also wipe out every citizens in the country.

Everyday he keeps mobilizing men,women both young and old to war, just to be killed the next day. Then he starts the process all over again with another different set of innocent lives. Just look at him jokingly putting out a twitter poll. To even think this man has time to tweet is even mind bugging.

Looks like man is enjoying himself, while watching a war movie unfold in reality.


Bobo be calming down with this iko
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by Krismas(m): 4:14pm On Oct 04, 2022
TenQ:


The crossed are pure lies!
Europe pays for gas, then Ukraine diverts it and Russia and Europe wouldn't do anything about it. It's called giving a dog a bad name...

Belarus is a fine example of how you want Ukraine to be!?

Russia is so nice, they don't make puppets of presidents unlike the imperialist USA and NATO!

Myopic!
grin Google can help u about the gas wars btw Russia and Ukraine. Chk google b4 displaying ur ignorance. America always backed Ukraine that’s why even the European court could not do anything. That’s why Mickel advised Putin to start d Nord stream
Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by pansophist(m): 4:15pm On Oct 04, 2022
truthsayer009:
@pansophist

I remember you saying something about this the last time. This guys actually want the war to continue & Americans living in America are now getting their eyes open gradually.

Only brainwashed zombies think America is pumping close to 100B usd within six months as a means of charity, and not for their evil empire. There are wars right now in every corner of the planet, but the west and the US don't give a shit. Right now as I speak, Israel is taking more and more of Palestinian lands, but you never hear about it in the news.

Ukraine is needed in western influence, for the west, to station western missles there that will reach Moscow, rendering Russia incapable of retaliation. And even if Russia will retaliate, they will blow up Ukraine, and the US evil empire continues. Putin is not an idiot, he knows about all these plans. Listen to his speech a few days ago, he talked more about it.

If they finally defeat Russia, then they divide the country like the soviet union and use what's left to face China, denying China all its crucial resources and oil for development. Anyone that doesnt listen to western media junk will know this. It is as clear as day. Millions of Americans presently are homeless, but their govt never helped them, but when it comes to war, you see them there.

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Re: Americans Blast Zelensky For Rejecting Elon Musk's Peace Deal With Russia (Pics) by TenQ: 4:18pm On Oct 04, 2022
You didn't answe the question:
The lifeline of Ukraine is her seaports, isn't it suicide to sign it away?
What is your solution to this?
jikins:


Why are you so sure those people will vote to stay with Russia. Its very interesting that you can't even factor in the possibility of them voting to stay with Ukraine
That is why, war should never be a precursor to any kind of referendum. A meaningful referendum can only be taken in the atmosphere of PEACE.

Russia is to withdraw it's forces, pay for damages and then the UN can conduct a referendum for the eastern Ukraine.


Even then, Ukraine has the right to claim ALL her seaports in exchange for the Donbas regions joining Russia!

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