735i:


You should have noticed by now that I deliberately never quote you or respond to your quotes.

But I'm going out of my way to politely ask you to NEVER quote me when you choose to exhibit your typical immaturity.

Please, do NOT quote me again.

I'd rather have civil conversations with people who can conduct themselves in public.

Conner44:


Oga calm down na, just agree that he won you in the debate that’s all

kingreign:


He went all caustic when I corrected him. Lol. It may interest 735i to know that blue colours are some of the most distractive colours at night and VW used the blue backlit instrument clusters in 90s-2000s. So they’re now wiser than the Japanese who decided to follow a natural white colour instrument cluster.
As much as we are here chatting and having fun, do not for once think that you’d try to bring up fallacies, and everybody will swallow these fallacies hook, line and sinker!

Conner44:
In the pictures below, to me oh . . . The only thing that the Volkswagen used in defeating the bmw is that the needle and dials had a different tone of colors if not they are the same thing

Maybe it’s just me but I hate the use of the same color of led bulbs on more than 90% of the instrument cluster lighting except it’s in white

kingreign:


Blue backlit dash are horrible and distracting at night, yet VW used it. So, did they not researched before implementing these things?

One of the best lights to have in a dashboard is diffused white lights. It is aesthetically pleasing and easy on the eyes and when brightness levels are adjusted accordingly, it driver can read all he needs to read easily and quickly both in day and night driving times.

Conner44:


Oga calm down na, just agree that he won you in the debate that’s all

735i:


Won?
I didn't know we were debating. I simply shared my perspective on an issue. That's all.
This same question of dashboard illumination was posed daily by BMW owners until BMW engineers explained the rationale behind the orange lights .

Their explanation makes sense to me till this moment. And frankly, that's all that matter to me.

Conner44:


Gbam! We hate fallacies

It turns our stomachs upside down

Conner44:


Then why did they now change the cluster design of their more recent models to have just white lights?

I think you should go back to those forums or groups where bmw owners first queried the company concerning the red lights to know why their rationale was no longer viable today

Or safe to say they were making a mistake all along

735i:


The way y'all throw words around...

Fallacy? Like I made it up? Did you bother to double check if its true?
Or because you've never heard this explanation it automatically makes it false?

You can have an opinion about the orange lights and that's totally fine. It remains what it is: your opinion.

I can choose to have the orange light over the white light. "Choice". It's my choice .

Conner44:


Well I can’t argue with the bolded but unless you choose to keep driving the dated models of those vehicles you must now have to make do with their new white led illuminated cluster designs

735i:


Can't speak to older models. But my '14 5 series has white light during the day.
It only turns orange when you turn on the parking or headlights.
Funny enough, if the headlights are on in daytime, the instrument cluster remains white.
The change in the instrument cluster from white to orange is controlled by sensors that are completely independent the headlights.

Conner44:


Wow, this is news. For real? The instrument cluster lights change? You say it’s a 2014 bmw 5 series? I need to see this

735i:


Will take pictures tonight.

Conner44:


Whenever you’re sitting in a vehicle and driving, there are only two places your eyes are supposed to be.

1. The windscreens/windows to see where you’re going

2. Your instrument cluster on your dashboard to see your speedometer and warning/fault lights.

I have no issues with the number 1, is the number 2 that gets to me

735i:
I'm slightly bemused at the comments here.

The orange lights in the interior of the BMW is a deliberate design to minimize eye fatigue during night driving.

In developed nations where road safety is a thing, driving all through the night is quite normal.

White interior lights will strain the eyes way faster than the orange lights used by BMW.

The Germans know this. That's why MB, VW and Audi won't do that tacky white lights you'd see in Japanese cars.

It's actually amusing to see people compare the lighting and ambience of a 5 series to a Camry. Smh.

Antihelminth:


I've never really noticed that dash board lights thing .
But I remember driving cars like vw golf .vw toureg .opel zafira ,Honda Accord .Honda Element and sharan ..all had yellow lights on the dash .
I'm sure some Toyota have them .I've only driven some at noon .so I've never noticed .
I thought this thread was to educate us on why we should own a BMW?
This arguments is just derailing the thread, pls be focused and forget the distractions.
Am trying to learn.

People online are crazy tbh

Antihelminth:


They didn't find anything worthy of hating in BMWs they had to bring dash board lights up
I'm tired sef lol

kingreign:
If bmw are truly worth the hype, why don’t commercial vehicle operators and fleet management use them like the way Japanese vehicles are used. Try using a BMW for bolt or Uber for 4months if it survives it, come tell me how much you spent on maintenance and let a bolt or Uber operator using a Corolla bring his own maintenance log book too!

kingreign:


Lies or you’re not updated on working on millennial bmws. Up till 2009 bmw still used that pesky yellow orange colour instrument cluster.


Yuck!

OfficialDJ:
enjoy your Toyota And infinity jalopies in peace or pieces and stop gallivanting car talk with ridiculous assertions.


One wonders why he hasn't seen a Lexus truck yet...
Beemers are luxury cars, not your Japanese shitty contraptions.

Antihelminth:


I don't hate Toyotas .I just don't prefer them .and im just comparing the two because almost everyone prefers them

9icetoo:

I warned you when you started not to ever do this

Now see

BMW and reliability.....

Conner44:



When it comes to reliability everybody knows that once a bmw crosses 150k miles it has a 90% chance to suddenly become a money pit no matter the amount of careful maintenance the owner has put into it.

I’m still waiting for 735i to show me his instrument cluster till now

Conner44:



When it comes to reliability everybody knows that once a bmw crosses 150k miles it has a 90% chance to suddenly become a money pit no matter the amount of careful maintenance the owner has put into it.

I’m still waiting for 735i to show me his instrument cluster till now

Conner44:


Chai! See beautiful cluster design and lighting As if I should toast your car away from your hand