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Templee333:
VOW OF POVERTY
JW org teaches it's members to abhor worldly riches. Not just that,some members who are in what they call "Order of fulltime something something..." are required to take a vow (vow of obedience & poverty) to remain poor. I didn't officially make that vow (but was on my way to), but inside my hrt i had determine not to be rich. The 1st time i heard abt such a vow i was so eager to be qualified 4 it. When i look back at it now it stinks. How can a sane human make a pledge to be poor? But such is the power of brainwashing. All special pioneers,traveling overseers,bethelites,international servants,missionaries & their likes have all taken that oath.The vow is written in a form that one has to fill & sign, it contains a lot of senseless pledges (or it make sense to them) but maybe they don't live up to it, a lot of them still lie to the organization & make money out of their service...

Janosky:
Trtrills deceiving Nairaland , your claim is FALSE.

Janosky:
Tctrill is desperate to convince this forum he's not TWISTING holy scriptures,Oga which birthday celebrations did Jesus Christ partake?

From your own Bible, please give this forum the verses and chapters.

Janosky:
Tctrill is desperate to convince this forum he's not TWISTING holy scriptures,Oga which birthday celebrations did Jesus Christ partake?
From your own Bible, please give this forum the verses and chapters.

tctrills:
Oga Jesus was not invited to Herod's birthday so when you say he did not attend, you are being dishonest. You don't attend when you are not invited.
Now you ask a more foolish question " which birthday celebrations did Jesus Christ partake?"
But let me answer you in a way you would understand. Which birthday Party was Jesus invited to in the bible?
How about convocation parties, Is that a sin too? Jesus never attended convocation parties.

achorladey:
Don't come and respond to voice of strangers you should be in front of your broadcasting network listening to those JESUS complete trust to give you imperfect[b] spiritual food laced with mistakes in doctrines and organisation direction

Templee333:
i can't dispute anything said about JW, they are capable of being anything.

are capable of being anything

MaxInDHouse:
Convocation is like rejoicing over the success of students graduating not found in the Bible but as for birthdays it is well recorded on two occasions Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6 it is clear that this custom belongs to pagans!
And because Jehovah warned His people not to participate in pagan traditions you can never ever find a single servant of God attend a birthday. We imitate their faith as they are our people by faith so that tradition continues!

MaxInDHouse:
Convocation is like rejoicing over the success of students graduating not found in the Bible but as for birthdays it is well recorded on two occasions Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6 it is clear that this custom belongs to pagans!
And because Jehovah warned His people not to participate in pagan traditions you can never ever find a single servant of God attend a birthday. We imitate their faith as they are our people by faith so that tradition continues!

Janosky:
Did Jesus Christ need an "invite" to do birthday celebrations?
No !

Oga,Did Jesus Christ partake in birthday celebrations?
Oga, answer the question.

MaxInDHouse:
Your friend (OP) said:



What baffles me is that this people like all other imperfect humans
Perhaps your friend thought God's people in ancient times were angels who aren't capable of being anything but perfect.
You faithless atheists!

Janosky:
The same man, Achorladey who posted this screenshot on Nairaland PROVEN that JWs obey Psalm 97:10 "O you who love Jehovah,hate what is bad"
JWs hate sexual immorality,over 36000 JWs were expelled & disciplined, the same warning examples
@1 Corinthians 10:8,11.
Did Achorladey provide the screenshot evidence?
Yes !.

SeniorMan715:
Anybody narrating what happened between him and his friend, and never said where himself was at fault isn't truthful, He is saying it in his favour. Na u sabi

triplechoice:
The question again ,

Is it mentioned in the Bible that Christians must put in 70hours of preaching or fieldwork monthly ? Yes or no

Long hours is indefinite time . It doesn't answer the question at all.

achorladey:
Here is what I was passing across earlier, this are the WORKS of Rutherford as captured in the screenshots below. Where in the Scriptures did the LORD ever said people should report hours to show their INTEGRITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS? Where? They will never answer the question

Where did Rutherford got the HE SAYS? Who is the HE under consideration here?

See as Rutherford was using commands of men as doctrines. Using the Lords name to perpetrate non existent things and add yoke that are unnecessary

achorladey:
He his narrating his experience, he created the thread for himself and you are not the MODERATOR here. Do you understand that or you need further explanation SeniorMan715?

tctrills:
You are right Convocations and birthdays have nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ hence we don't have records of Christ attending them.
On the 2 occasions birthdays were recorded, Jesus Christ was not invited. How do you expect him to attend? Its not even recorded if Jesus Christ attended Herod's party or not but you cant help yourself from assuming.

SeniorMan715:
Anybody narrating what happened between him and his friend, and never said where himself was at fault isn't truthful, He is saying it in his favour. Na u sabi

zoer:
Is there a better replacement for JW?

tctrills:

Going by the cultural values of God's people in ancient times birthday celebration is no part of their lives because it came from pagan origin.

Again you assume. There is no record to show that God's people did not celebrate birthdays, weddings, convocations, or any other celebrations.
I keep telling you to depend on the revealed word. If God was against birthdays he would have said so. In true religion, we do not assume or guess. We look to God for revelation.

SeniorMan715:
Please i need further explanation.

Courz:
Rutherford is nothing but a Charlatan. From the screenshots, he is just like these so called Men of God that say, "The Lord told me this, The Lord told me that". So, how is JW different from any other mainstream Christian denomination with their Leaders claiming to hear directly from God? He is attributing the report of field service and regular, special pioneering as direct message from God. Using God to Lie! He didn't quote any Bible verse to support his imagination. How did God speak to him about stipulating pioneering and field service reports? Visions? Dreams? Direct communication? How? This JW religion is a joke! Charlatans! He got these commandments from his own imagination to control people. That's why his imaginations of the end of the world failed woefully. He consistently lied that God told him the world would end so many times. God has already prepared a special punishment for False prophets like Rutherford. Same Man who was a drunkard and a womaniser hosting mistresses, even an underaged girl, in his Beth Sarim Mansion. No wonder the Cult is filled with Pedophiles that Watchtower is protecting.

Please, which publication is this? Let me download it.

achorladey:
Although written during the year following Rutherford’s death, an article titled “Righteous Requirements,” published in the July 1, 1943 Watchtower, pages 204-206, illustrates the attitude of total submission to the organization that had been inculcated during his presidency. It shows, too, how an organization can plainly and unabashedly ask people to equate what it says with what God himself has said.


I even still get the pdf but will have to do some searching.

MaxInDHouse:
Is it that you just want to crack jokes or you've never heard of the first miracle Jesus performed?

Please the water turning to wine came as a result of what?

Ọmọ there's no record that they did not smoke or use masquerades too nah.
So i wonder what you God's people can refer to as wrong since God must write it in the Bible for you to ascertain that it's wrong.

Well we are following the footsteps of our people the WITNESSES {Hebrews 12:1} whose names are mentioned @ Hebrews 11:4-34 because we are also WITNESSES of the same God!

So i wonder what you God's people can refer to as wrong since God must write it in the Bible for you to ascertain that it's wrong.

Well we are following the footsteps of our people the WITNESSES {Hebrews 12:1} whose names are mentioned @ Hebrews 11:4-34 because we are also WITNESSES of the same God!

achorladey:
The explanation you need is simple and short that the topic of the thread is states MY(templee333) EXPERIENCE with Jehovah’s witness organisation. The last time I checked names of moderators on nairaland particularly religious section , SeniorMan715 is not there . You follow?

SeniorMan715:
Check again i fellow

MaxInDHouse:
You're now meeting the REAL atheists!

According to the dictionary the word "atheist" means someone who lack believe in GOD.

So unintelligent miscreants thought that's just the end but wise people knows that the title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and that means the one who is supreme should have dominion over lesser beings as they adhere to His orders making them think like their God! John 17:22

Please ask this people to name the group with which they share a common line of thought as believers (those trusting) in the word of a God!

In the Bible book of Genesis 3:1-5 Satan initiated the first two atheists making them feel that they can be better off without thinking like their God and they both agreed.
But afterwards God chose a nation and made an organized people so as to call them His Witnesses {Isaiah 43:10-12} WHY? Because it's the same line of thought that governs them and made them a united people.

Let these fugitives mention any group at all with which they're obeying the word of their so called "god" and let's see how they differ from those claiming Atheists!

But afterwards God chose a nation and made an organized people so as to call them His Witnesses {Isaiah 43:10-12} WHY? Because it's the same line of thought that governs them and made them a united people.