₦airaland Forum

TheGoodJoe:
Peter Obi was based in Europe. Got loans to grow his exportation business in Europe. He was not living in Nigeria to import goods. He was living in Europe and sourced the funds from Europe.

He was an exporter.

SmartyPants:
Exporting raw materials will not take us from consumption to production in any way. We will still be stuck in the cycle of exporting raw materials and importing finished goods. The only way to become a producing nation is by adding value to raw materials.

Now that is easier said than done so I want to understand the plan. Especially when PO has already said he will pursue contractionary monetary policies which will create a difficult,t environment for investors and business people.

Besides, are you answering for Peter Obi or are you referencing something he said?

If the second, please point me to the source if you don't mind.

vhykeeytor:
So we can easily conclude that TonyeBacarnister has been foolishly lying since childhood.

Kaysalas:
I guess this is true, coming from you the personal assistant to piTobi. Obi himself, never told us such. Go read up on import and export, a new tab by the side will save you this self inflicted display of ignorance

Freethinker87:
PO has never advocated exporting raw materials. He has always said Niger will be the agric hub while Kano will be the processing centre. If you follow PO you'll understand his vision better. That's why people like us who're not interested in politics keyed into his vision. He's better than other career politicians on the ballot.

RingRoadMafia:
Oga you've made your point, stop all this unnecessary finger pointing, this is politics, a lot of propaganda is involved. I support Obi too, but I respect other people's choice. If they throw propaganda our way, it's our job to dispell it, not to start insulting opposing voices. We're not exactly innocent too, ya know? Tonyebarcanista has every right to support whomever he wants to and in whatever way. This is politics.

SmartyPants:
Your first point is great. Point 2, is less credible. I mean if he's had such contacts and hasn't used them to build anything of note even while he was governor, that doesn't tell well.

But let's look at your point number one because you have hit the nail on the head.

a. Insecurity. This is a tough one and he isn't telling us how he will do it so we can't be sure he really has a plan.

b. Power. I need not tell you how many people have promised and failed to fix power. How will he do it differently?

c. Access to funds. This is actually why I asked if you're speaking for Obi or quoting him because Obi has clearly said he will pursue tighter monetary policies. Under such, the CBN will issue very high-interest rates which make it more attractive for people to save and not invest, and those seeking loans for investment will face discouragingly high-interest rates too.

So maybe you need to teach Mr Obi some economics!

RexTramadol1:
This is ridiculous!
Drab response.
So, a bandit earning between a million or 3 in an operation will now go to farm for 50k
Well, he reasons like his supporters or vice versa.

TheGoodJoe:

Educate us on how one of the largest exporters of products from Europe to Africa is not an exporter. Give us an excerpt of what you want us to read.

Freethinker87:
Stop crying, no one is stopping you from supporting agbado or mikano, own your candidate with your full chest. We Obidients don't do propaganda. We don't tell lies. You can go and verify.

SmartyPants:
Your first point is great. Point 2, is less credible. I mean if he's had such contacts and hasn't used them to build anything of note even while he was governor, that doesn't tell well.

But let's look at your point number one because you have hit the nail on the head.

a. Insecurity. This is a tough one and he isn't telling us how he will do it so we can't be sure he really has a plan.

b. Power. I need not tell you how many people have promised and failed to fix power. How will he do it differently?

c. Access to funds. This is actually why I asked if you're speaking for Obi or quoting him because Obi has clearly said he will pursue tighter monetary policies. Under such, the CBN will issue very high-interest rates which make it more attractive for people to save and not invest, and those seeking loans for investment will face discouragingly high-interest rates too.

So maybe you need to teach Mr Obi some economics!

TheGoodJoe:

Educate us on how one of the largest exporters of products from Europe to Africa is not an exporter. Give us an excerpt of what you want us to read.

Kaysalas:
See, it's obvious you don't even know what you are saying. Obi buys goods from Europe, doesn't make him an exporter. I saw what you wrote up there about him paying for the logistics and sourcing the goods over there, therefore that makes him an exporter. I couldn't help but shake my head at your level of "simplicity" (I nor wan chop ban)
The companies Obi buys from are the exporters, while he bringing in the goods is the importer. I am tired of explaining something as basic as this to you. Cheers

RingRoadMafia:
Oga you've made your point, stop all this unnecessary finger pointing, this is politics, a lot of propaganda is involved. I support Obi too, but I respect other people's choice. If they throw propaganda our way, it's our job to dispell it, not to start insulting opposing voices. We're not exactly innocent too, ya know? Tonyebarcanista has every right to support whomever he wants to and in whatever way. This is politics.

SmartyPants:
Interesting one.

Why Kano?

Freethinker87:
PO is not an exporter. Your argument is weird really. Let it go, please.

RingRoadMafia:
Ode go through my comments, I'm quite sure you haven't done quarter of what I've done for this cause so shut up. Not everyone is as crass and stupid as you.

Kaysalas:
See, it's obvious you don't even know what you are saying. Obi buys goods from Europe, doesn't make him an exporter. I saw what you wrote up there about him paying for the logistics and sourcing the goods over there, therefore that makes him an exporter. I couldn't help but shake my head at your level of "simplicity" (I nor wan chop ban)
The companies Obi buys from are the exporters, while he bringing in the goods is the importer. I am tired of explaining something as basic as this to you. Cheers

Freethinker87:
I'm not that idle to go through your post. What did you write there? Are you an investor or something?

TheGoodJoe:
See, when he says to pursue tight policies, he does not mean all sectors. If you get this, it gets easier.

If someone is in the agric exportation sector, there will be monetary access for him through other instruments. If you are into loans for another sector that will not favor the country, like crude products importation, the tight monetary system will make it unfavorable.

By the way, I am not speaking for Peter Obi. I listened to him and I am sharing things that entice me to believe he is the right man to steer the country at this time.

He has made it clear. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs made it from favorable loans. He made it from a loan without collateral. It is impossible he will push a policy to restrict the very essence that is driving him.

Kaysalas:
quote author=TheGoodJoe post=117937379]When people say Peter Obi knows importation and not exporting, it sounds funny to me.

The things Peter Obi imported into Africa we're EXPORTED from Europe. That means he is totally grounded in exportation and knows how healthy exporting systems work.



Peter Obi was a large-scale importer to Africa.

Meaning, he exported these goods from the shores of Europe.

Meaning he is highly experienced in exportation.

So, which part do you disagree with?

Now, see why I said many of you supporting Obi, just like him are half witted?
Obi imports from Europe, doesn't mean he exported the same goods from Europe. It is the manufacturers of those goods who did the Exporting while Obi did the importing of the same goods. Obi cannot export goods from Europe because he doesn't have a manufacturing company in Europe from which to do such. Stop yarning crap. It is getting really irritating

Kaysalas:
quote author=TheGoodJoe post=117937379]When people say Peter Obi knows importation and not exporting, it sounds funny to me.

The things Peter Obi imported into Africa we're EXPORTED from Europe. That means he is totally grounded in exportation and knows how healthy exporting systems work.



Peter Obi was a large-scale importer to Africa.

Meaning, he exported these goods from the shores of Europe.

Meaning he is highly experienced in exportation.

So, which part do you disagree with?

Now, see why I said many of you supporting Obi, just like him are half witted?
Obi imports from Europe, doesn't mean he exported the same goods from Europe. It is the manufacturers of those goods who did the Exporting while Obi did the importing of the same goods. Obi cannot export goods from Europe because he doesn't have a manufacturing company in Europe from which to do such. Stop yarning crap. It is getting really irritating

TonyeBarcanista:
Even what he said is fallacious... no such thing happened

TonyeBarcanista:
Even what he said is fallacious... no such thing happened

Freethinker87:
Because Kano is building a rail line to the port in Lagos. When completed, it will be easier to transport finished goods to the port for export to other African countries and the rest of the world.

SmartyPants:
Cheers, thats a good start but ultimately nowhere near the final answer.

When we deal with insecurity, we'll merely return to our normal pre-insurgency agricultural output. That is enough to feed the nation but that wont make us net producers.

How do wr get to the point where we begin to become major producers in agriculture?

It must be done by value addition not mere farming.

That will happen when we can turn a basket of tomatoes into a carton of tinned tomatoes.

So again, what is the plan for this?

TheGoodJoe:

Explain to me how Peter Obi is not an exporter when he buys goods in Europe and exports them to Africa.

Please, to Nigeria, he is an importer.

To the Europeans from whom he got the funds and purchased the goods and exported them to Nigeria, he is an exporter.

Explain to me how someone who exports goods from Europe is not an exporter.

Freethinker87:
Below is the full interview and transcript from the cut-and-join section TonyeBarcanista posted earlier.

TonyeBarcanista, we understand your desperation and you're truly deserving of our pity. What else can you do when your party don't have anything to campaign with?

begoniaa:
I'll thank you at least, that you're not just one looking to argue meaninglessly.

Freethinker87:
PO is not an exporter, he is a distributor. He ran a successful marketing firm in the UK back in the day. He was responsible for introducing Heinze products and making them a household name in Nigeria. Ovaltine too, and some flavoured wines. He was also a major distributor for local manufacturers such as Coca-Cola, Yao foods, and others.

He can't be an exporter of goods he distributes, he's not even an importer in the real sense of the word. He's only a distributor, which means, he enters into a legal contract with these manufacturers to be their sole distributor in Nigeria.

kingyakos:
You manufacture goods in Nigeria and I'm a distributor of your goods in far away country. Between you a manufacturer and me a distributor who's into import and export?...

Abeg no vex, no insult please �
Thanks

TonyeBarcanista:
Even what he said is fallacious... no such thing happened

RingRoadMafia:
Amateurs.. they don't understand that attacking the messenger tends to validate the message.