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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by tolase220(m): 3:31pm On Jun 29, 2019
God started with one man, multiplying to so many nations, all competing for numero uno. Every man wants to be number one, likewise every tribe, etc. Let common sense prevail pls. No fighting. We are one.
Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by gregyboy(m): 7:18pm On Jun 29, 2019
MetaPhysical:


Dear Prince,
I apologize for late entry on my response.

I do not in any way diminish Yoruba ancestors at all. My submission in that post was very brief and to the point as pertains to this headgear and color itself.

Red is universal color, in fact all colors are universal. In Yoruba alchemy colors are used to treat ailments by restoring balance to temper and mood. Colors are also used to communicate with divinities.

Certain traditions and cultures of old were known significantly by colors and till today that knowledge pesrsists.

Yoruba is a foreign conqueror and civilization. Its abode is Ife, but it met people in Ife. The name Ile-Ife, the term Oba, the conical Crown, the deities, Yoruba language, and many more customs were implants in the land now known as Ife.

Something caused Yoruba to depart Afro-Asia but something even very significant caused Yoruba to aim for settlement in the land it renamed Ife. It was not an accident. Amongst those with whom Yoruba settled were Bariba and Yauri. The two left and Yoruba remained in the land.

The preoccupiers of that land were the Noks. They were significant for some things, primary among which is color red. They were already a civilized people. Their civilization was super imposed by the much more civilized and nobler Yoruba.

In the same way red features as a color of significance for Nok, blue and white featured significantly for Yoruba.

After their settlement Yoruba instituted the nok culture into its expansion strategy. Red became insignia of Ife authority and dynasty. When uncivilized wild roaming natives needed to be organized, a chief of Ife is sent to order the society and rule it. This is how Ogisos appointed from Ife ended up establishing the red culture in Edo.


Lol.....fables just hear yourself a tribe that started documentation just around late 19century wants to date the origin of edo that has documented thier history since 14c ....i explained before red was never a general colour in west Africa or africa as a whole it was only synonymous to the edos this is one of the reasons the Portuguese sailors located benin as they sailed along the river they saw a town built on red soil , the lands were describe by sailors as a land of blood, the benin flag was made of red fabrics, the Portuguese saw the uniqueness of red in benin they gave the oba red coral beads ...white was not cherished like red even if it existed.the benin sand ia still very red today because it a rain forest zone over occurrence of leaching ....so dont come here and say ife ....like you aint educated to think beyond the box....the yorubas used brown beads white and red was not thier colour until the early 19c
Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by Nobody: 7:37pm On Jun 29, 2019
gregyboy:


Lol.....fables just hear yourself a tribe that started documentation just around late 19century wants to date the origin of edo that has documented thier history since 14c ....i explained before red was never a general colour in west Africa or africa as a whole it was only synonymous to the edos this is one of the reasons the Portuguese sailors located benin as they sailed along the river they saw a town built on red soil , the lands were describe by sailors as a land of blood, the benin flag was made of red fabrics, the Portuguese saw the uniqueness of red in benin they gave the oba red coral beads ...white was not cherished like red even if it existed.the benin sand ia still very red today because it a rain forest zone over occurrence of leaching ....so dont come here and say ife ....like you aint educated to think beyond the box....the yorubas used brown beads white and red was not thier colour until the early 19c
they are trying everything to downplay Benin. They even said the first church in west Africa was built in Ogun state(which is a lie).

Yoruba are treacherous

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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by Olu317(m): 7:58pm On Jun 29, 2019
MetaPhysical:


Dear Prince,
I apologize for late entry on my response.

I do not in any way diminish Yoruba ancestors at all. My submission in that post was very brief and to the point as pertains to this headgear and color itself.

Red is universal color, in fact all colors are universal. In Yoruba alchemy colors are used to treat ailments by restoring balance to temper and mood. Colors are also used to communicate with divinities.

Certain traditions and cultures of old were known significantly by colors and till today that knowledge pesrsists.

Yoruba is a foreign conqueror and civilization. Its abode is Ife, but it met people in Ife. The name Ile-Ife, the term Oba, the conical Crown, the deities, Yoruba language, and many more customs were implants in the land now known as Ife.

Something caused Yoruba to depart Afro-Asia but something even very significant caused Yoruba to aim for settlement in the land it renamed Ife. It was not an accident. Amongst those with whom Yoruba settled were Bariba and Yauri. The two left and Yoruba remained in the land.

The preoccupiers of that land were the Noks. They were significant for some things, primary among which is color red. They were already a civilized people. Their civilization was super imposed by the much more civilized and nobler Yoruba.

In the same way red features as a color of significance for Nok, blue and white featured significantly for Yoruba.

After their settlement Yoruba instituted the nok culture into its expansion strategy. Red became insignia of Ife authority and dynasty. When uncivilized wild roaming natives needed to be organized, a chief of Ife is sent to order the society and rule it. This is how Ogisos appointed from Ife ended up establishing the red culture in Edo.


Not at all do I see your late response as an issue because it could be time factor,work ,family's attention etc that could take your mind away from here. So, I appreciate your response in totality.

Although, I agree with you on the forgotten part of Yoruba ancestors who once fought Nok people and moved into the hinterlands of the present day Ileife . But where Yoruba lived with these people wasn't present day ife because Opa Oranmiyan testified to this truth.

It is a fact that the land being occupied by these Yoruba ancestors at Ufe ,from my research work have no connection in whatsoever way linguistically to the word ‘Ogiso', because it will shock you! to know that contrary to a lot of scholars view that the people of Yoruba language digressed over 2000+ years ago from others that are grouped alongside Kwa is blatant false. Believe me, the spoken Yoruba is encoded in the classic semitic language that are found in cuneiform or tablets that Some words are being erroneously interpreted wrongly by Western linguists etc.

Well, if you doubt my view,then kindly do research on the Tapa people in Niger state and Compare with Tapa in Kwara state in present time. From this , you will see my point, which is the fact, that if Yoruba arrived at a place, her language's footprint is established amongst the people they bypass; which makes the Yoruba ancestors as travellers.The same is applicable in Edo and some area in Northern Easternmost Iboland .Those doesn't mean we lived together as neighbours. It never happened because the Yoruba ancestors believed in nature ,,hill,pastoral environment,accessible water etc to communicate with God .

I will appreciate if you know an information about the house of the Ogiso or the Tapa or others who shared same identity with Yoruba ancestors, etc in Ufe to me and others because,irrespective of the disagreement between Oluigbo and Ooni,certain truth can't be wiped out. Intermingling doesn't make a people same except linguistically, culturally, historically, etc to be of same stock.

My stand is that despite the truth that the yoruba did passed by the Tapa-Bariba, Hausa people etc, it didnt made the yorubas distinct because aba ati oma /omo iki ni oko ko ma si ala . Though through their migration, to yorubas land , they picked some lexicons from the classic Egyptians,which are still used interchangeably with their original language from their ancestors migration land which is over 5000 years ago,if you calculate the migration pattern of these people.

Now, if Olukumi can still speak an element of yoruba language in a land that's close in proximity to Ibos in the Eastern Nigeria,, or Ufe in Togo who moved away from Yoruba land in around, 500/600 700/800/900 years ago, why don't these Nok,who are BANTU people have places named after yoruba's places that are linguistically related in meaning to Yoruba's in their present day abode ,that's outside Ufe land?


Cheers

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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by Olu317(m): 8:05pm On Jun 29, 2019
tolase220:
God started with one man, multiplying to so many nations, all competing for numero uno. Every man wants to be number one, likewise every tribe, etc. Let common sense prevail pls. No fighting. We are one.

Yes, you're right 100% but have you for once pondered o er ther reasons language mutated?

Perhaps you need to use your spirit being,research work,craftiness etc to understand the purpose of all these things.The point here is that we are same people but created for different purpose for a great unification.It isn't about competing for nos:1 but establishment of God's purpose.



Cheers
Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by UGBE634: 8:53am On Nov 27, 2021
Olu317:


Are you for real Oviedo Well, the same way Yoruba brought the term, ‘ogbo àtọ' to your land which Igodomgodo changed to, ‘ugha tor, which is specifically to bow to a Yoruba Prince king in Biniland(land of anger). Interestingly, it is a Yoruba word for initiates and generally use by elders when nee be. cheesy

I wonder when this attitude of you people will accept the truth because the same Bini kingdom and people that have been copying and learning Yoruba ‘initiates' language since 11th century Yoruba landed in Edoland grin cheesy.....
Olu you are pathetic, I wonder what you look like in real life, any Edo who sees that will know you are a misguided misfit.

What is helping you is that Bini is not a majority group where the influence of the language spreads to other non native speakers, such that they can understand the language and burst your lies. Illiterate you would not know that there are similar sounding words in every tribe that means different things and sometimes mean the same thing but are indigenous to those tribes.

Ogbo ato is forever not similar to Ugha tor(let me leave baba Macof to play the game of diacritic for you) . Ugha as a word is used outside "tor", you can say "Ugha yo do a" will you go there?, "Ugha kpee a" will you stay long?

It can also be used for affirmative sentences outside "tor" it is an all encompassing word and it is used everyday for prayers and all, it is a prima Edo word. which means "you will", in pidgin "you go". an Edo man praying for his son who just married can say "Ugha mion omo bie" perfect literal translation would be "you go see pikin born" "Ugha bowa o"-you will build a house.

You carefully forge your lies around minority groups because you know it might get unnoticed for long. Olu indeed you are pathetic

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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by macof(m): 10:01am On Nov 27, 2021
PrinceOgun:
Benin created thrones in yorubaland , that one you posted is one of them , I never knew the Benin Empire reached kwara, I know the empire had dominion over ondo and ekiti but ........kwara wow
It did not.

And when you say over Ondo and Ekiti, be mindful that it is not all of Ondo and Ekiti

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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by macof(m): 10:08am On Nov 27, 2021
UGBE634:
Olu you are pathetic, I wonder what you look like in real life, any Edo who sees that will know you are a misguided misfit.

What is helping you is that Bini is not a majority group where the influence of the language spreads to other non native speakers, such that they can understand the language and burst your lies. Illiterate you would not know that there are similar sounding words in every tribe that means different things and sometimes mean the same thing but are indigenous to those tribes.

Ogbo ato is forever not similar to Ugha tor(let me leave baba Macof to play the game of diacritic for you) . Ugha as a word is used outside "tor", you can say "Ugha yo do a" will you go there?, "Ugha kpee a" will you stay long?

It can also be used for affirmative sentences outside "tor" it is an all encompassing word and it is used everyday for prayers and all, it is a prima Edo word. which means "you will", in pidgin "you go". an Edo man praying for his son who just married can say "Ugha mion omo bie" perfect literal translation would be "you go see pikin born" "Ugha bowa o"-you will build a house.

You carefully forge your lies around minority groups because you know it might get unnoticed for long. Olu indeed you are pathetic

Essentially

Ugha is "Ìwọ (a)" in Yorùbá

These are two cognates and the evolution from a common etymon is obvious when one realises that /w/ is rendered as /gh/ and /i/ to /u/ in Eastern yorubaland going eastwards into Edoid territories
It is all a dialect continuum

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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by UGBE634: 10:37am On Nov 27, 2021
macof:


Essentially

Ugha is "Ìwọ (a)" in Yorùbá

These are two cognates and the evolution from a common etymon is obvious when one realises that /w/ is rendered as /gh/ and /i/ to /u/ in Eastern yorubaland going eastwards into Edoid territories
It is all a dialect continuum
And how does " Ogbo"relates to that? This is true and it is because they are related languages (yoruba, Edo, Igbo and all)that is different from Olu's argument
Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by macof(m): 11:03am On Nov 27, 2021
UGBE634:
And how does " Ogbo"relates to that? This is true and it is because they are related languages (yoruba, Edo, Igbo and all)that is different from Olu's argument
it does not. I was saying you are correct

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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by UGBE634: 11:04am On Nov 27, 2021
macof:
it does not. I was saying you are correct
oh okay
Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by babasolution: 11:22am On Nov 27, 2021
The present is key to the past,the fact is the recent history if the Yoruba shows they weren't really a great people as they like to portray now,if they were there wud b strong evidence for it.but presently there's no strong evidence to prove Yoruba greatness

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Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by Olu317(m): 9:24pm On Nov 27, 2021
MetaPhysical:


Dear Prince,
I apologize for late entry on my response.

I do not in any way diminish Yoruba ancestors at all. My submission in that post was very brief and to the point as pertains to this headgear and color itself.

Red is universal color, in fact all colors are universal. In Yoruba alchemy colors are used to treat ailments by restoring balance to temper and mood. Colors are also used to communicate with divinities.

Certain traditions and cultures of old were known significantly by colors and till today that knowledge pesrsists.

Yoruba is a foreign conqueror and civilization. Its abode is Ife, but it met people in Ife. The name Ile-Ife, the term Oba, the conical Crown, the deities, Yoruba language, and many more customs were implants in the land now known as Ife.

Something caused Yoruba to depart Afro-Asia but something even very significant caused Yoruba to aim for settlement in the land it renamed Ife. It was not an accident. Amongst those with whom Yoruba settled were Bariba and Yauri. The two left and Yoruba remained in the land.

The preoccupiers of that land were the Noks. They were significant for some things, primary among which is color red. They were already a civilized people. Their civilization was super imposed by the much more civilized and nobler Yoruba.

In the same way red features as a color of significance for Nok, blue and white featured significantly for Yoruba.

After their settlement Yoruba instituted the nok culture into its expansion strategy. Red became insignia of Ife authority and dynasty. When uncivilized wild roaming natives needed to be organized, a chief of Ife is sent to order the society and rule it. This is how Ogisos appointed from Ife ended up establishing the red culture in Edo.

Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by AutomaticMotors: 12:23am On Oct 29, 2022
Unlimitk:
Now I saw this pic on the internet
Its a town in kwara state
So I want to ask
Y is d previous king dressing like this

Wow
Re: Omu Aran Previous King Dressing Like Benin Ppl by Unlimitk(m): 8:49am On Oct 29, 2022
AutomaticMotors:

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