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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:05am On Nov 04, 2022 |
olaadegoke47: Stop looking for a squirrel, with a hunch...... You would not find any ..........  To start with, it's illegal & nobody would risk their NCD.........  If you start paying that insurance premium now, in no time ..... You would join us in the £180 per annum fully comprehensive insurance club ........ .. 9 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 9:10am On Nov 04, 2022 |
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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 9:27am On Nov 04, 2022 |
Lexusgs430: Is there anyway to join the £180 gang without going through paying that premium? Does good credit help? |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by leef2022: 9:37am On Nov 04, 2022 |
olaadegoke47: UK is an Island.... All man for himself and after himself. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:38am On Nov 04, 2022 |
hustla: Life, comes in stages ........ You have to PAY2PLAY....... 3 Likes |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:39am On Nov 04, 2022 |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:00am On Nov 04, 2022 |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 10:03am On Nov 04, 2022 |
@Pearlyfaze: Can you kindly clarify this 'taxi fare': relocation cost or shuttling taxi fare? ... Can her Union force them to pay for this [i]taxi fare?.[/i] Secondly, if you may, kindly share the 'mobility clause' in your spouse's employment contract. Only the mobility clause (and if, by chance, there are any confidential or sensitive contents within the mobility clause, kindly redact them) Thirdly, what this put in writing or convey via a formal meeting ... {Today 02 Nov '22} her Regional manager informed her that this present Home is going to shutdown by December. PS: This depending on how the employer phrase it, might mean differents things: could become TUPE (see below), could be redundancy, could be relocation (see below as well). To start with, the word 'transfer' might infer a different meaning in labour law lingo (to a unionist, or a legal person, or maybe HR). Transfer typically refers to what is covered under the Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations 2006 (“TUPE“): essentially, someone else takes over the business entity (going concern). For the protection of the existing employees, the new employer is obliged to take over their employment contracts (as-is). TUPE also applies to two other scenarios. In your case, you are not faced with Transfer as per TUPE. That is what I understand from what you're narrating. However, I struggle to place what category of employee your spouse is. -- is her employer an NHS trust (essentially civil service) -- is her employer any that deems her to be a civil servant -- is her employer an agency that 'contracts' her out to NHS or any other entities Be it as it may, it appears the issues at hand are: - persistent and repeated requests to relocate to another 'office' location on the employer's insistence - Is an employer within their right to move an employee to another work location? Affirmative yes with clauses. - Does such employer's forced/induced relocation/move unreasonable? - ---- under the circumstances as you've narrated, it appears so on prima facie basis. - ---- NB: for distances typically within 25miles, it has become the norm that such is reasonable, although personal circumstances might come to play, alongside 'correctness' of the (subsistence employment contract) mobility clause, if any. - Is the employee unreasonably refusing the employer's request to move to another work location - This is where your factual, cogent reasons come to be - --- currently, you've stated - --- mental health following about #3 such work movement - --- you've reached a tipping point and might utterly collapse under the strain of yet another movement - --- impact of the family is enormous, notably the wellness and well-being of the children - --- 0. Children's schooling routine, settling in, logistics ... - --- 1. We have got tenant contracts that will end April 8 2023. - --- 2. Energy Contract till April 2023 exit fee £300. - --- 3. Wifi Contract till April 2023 exit fee £150. - --- 4. ... - --- 5. ... - --- Nonetheless, you'll reasonably consider such a move - --- --- move by or after April 2023 with sufficient notice. Kindly note the following: The legal test is typically reasonableness. However, it remains subjective nonetheless the many HR fracas/tussles, labour issues, legal cases. Amongst many, there is one that definitely attempts to state the position of law. See Ms F Tsang v HRS Family Law Solicitors Ltd: 1300548/2021 (You can easily search for it. It's also available on gov.uk) In my view, the dictum of his Lordship, Judge Gaskell is that – “My conclusions are that is a clear contractual right on the respondent to require an employee to move to another office. However, in my judgement, it must be implied that the respondent would act after proper consultation and proper consideration of an employee’s concerns before enforcing that contract.” - {NB: Emphasis mine} In a nutshell, I'll say, - can the employer ask you to move? Yes, they can. - Must you move for the sake of being as to move? Not really. - Can you proffer reasonable reasons and/or reasonable alternatives? Yes, you can, and you should. - Both parties, employer and employee, must be guided by the mobility clause in the employment contract. Where mobility clause is not explicit in the employment contract or the 'correctness thereof' is impermissible, then common law kicks in, and in any case, the principles of human rights sets in (which are deemed to be incorporated. See also https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/human-rights-workplace) - employees have 'relocation rights' hinged on reasonableness and mobility clause. Also, kindly note that what constitutes a move being ‘unreasonable’ isn’t clearly defined; and what is reasonable to one person might not be the same for another! More so, it gets more interesting when dealing with 'individual' or 'select few' movement to another location and a whole company move to another relocation (mass relocation)!!! Yes, for 'individual' relocation, employees can raise all kinds of issues/defence, such as unreasonable, unfair labour practices (unfair treatment), constructive dismissal, and even discrimination. I'll say, beware of using the #discrimination card. It typically distracts from the real (substantive) issues (matter at hand). NB: Be careful how you go about dumping all of these (above) on the employer. #Beware! Obviously, not the typical 9ja gra gra! PS: I'll highly recommend you use the passive-aggressive approach. The subtle but firm standing of your ground: not overly visibly aggressive and/or resentful. PS: Allow the union to handle this (or if you must use a lawyer), let 'em do the bidding. All the best | Keep calm and follow the process objectively: while keeping calm, consciously and frantically look for other roles. The NHS ocean is vast for UKRN nurses!!!. #Iree o NB: labour challenge is by itself mentally draining on its own!!! PS: Should the employer opt for the route f #redundancy, which is within their prerogative, it might pan out good or bad. Good, as in my understanding, your spouse is released from her employment contract clauses, and if she gets another sponsorship role (highly possible for UKRN). Would be bad if sponsorship roles do not come by! Read more on redundancy by following YouKay Gov www.gov.uk/employer-relocation-your-rights Kindly take time to peruse the following: For employment contract content, follow link: www.gov.uk/employment-contracts-and-conditions/contract-terms Understanding contract types: www.gov.uk/contract-types-and-employer-responsibilities For civil servant transfer: www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-for-civil-servants-how-to-move-jobs-between-departments-and-agencies If, by chance, the scenario is that of an Agency: https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/employment-agency-rules This is not a legal opinion as construed in law. dustydee: dustydee: Pearlyfaze: Pearlyfaze: 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 10:06am On Nov 04, 2022 |
An impossicant on the YouKay island. Best help is to read this thread on how best to get UK driver's license, go about 'reasonable' starter insurance and work your way toward below £500 per annum insurance cover (premium) over the years. olaadegoke47: |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Pearlyfaze: 10:17am On Nov 04, 2022 |
dustydee: Thank you baba. Please how do I go about the mental health and constructive dismissal Angle. I will love explore every possible options. Following them to Sunderland or Durham is a no no for me as jobs are very limited in those areas. How do I force their hand untill April is my challenge now. 1 Like |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by leef2022: 10:20am On Nov 04, 2022 |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:04am On Nov 04, 2022 |
olaadegoke47:I have seen many requests on this thread but this one is a discovery! You can get good rates for your car insurance, check out comparison sites like confused.com , gocompare.com , moneysupermarket.com . You might even get better rates if you have a provisional license and type that in as your license. However, the type of car you drive might be a factor. So if you don’t get a good rate, just pay up regardless and don’t try to do anything illegal. All the best! 9 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by steadyMoving22: 11:29am On Nov 04, 2022 |
krystynaachie: You could take more courses online In line with finances and technology. Let say product marketing and management which you can find on product school, just because of your digital marketing msc you taking at the moment, this will speed up your employment credibility. You can start by applying for an internship in line with the career via combining your experience of finance and what i stated above. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by specialenvoy: 11:35am On Nov 04, 2022 |
Good morning Does anyone know any car finance company that can give car finance to someone that has stayed less than 3 years in the UK but stayed up to 2 years? Thanks |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:50am On Nov 04, 2022 |
krystynaachie:You can start applying to banks and investment coys here in the UK, quite a number of them might be willing to offer you sponsorship or flexible working if you fit the bill and if it’s an urgent need eg Lloyd, Santander, Barclays, even JP Morgan offers flexible working. I know Santander has been advertising for a Credit Risk Analyst like their life depends on it. Your 9 years of experience in the financial services sector is an edge and not a waste. But you have to tailor your CV accordingly and it has to be a really strong CV. 4 Likes |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by DeeOneBangin: 11:57am On Nov 04, 2022 |
Lexusgs430: Must you always pepper us   1 Like |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by tascoarena: 12:28pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Good day, If u need accommodation in a shared 4 bedroom detachable house � in Huddersfield, to live with a family of five with Shared kitchen , living room, dining all laundry will be share.....we want Couples, family of three or single ladies. It is 17mins to Huddersfield Uni. 07594328149 (WhatsApp pls). Thanks |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Gemma11: 12:31pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
olaadegoke47: No stranger is going to do that for you. If you have a close relative who drives, you could ask them to add you to theirs but they may be reluctant. My only advice is to check for the minimum level of cover that the law allows which is 3rd party, fire and theft which is most times cheaper. However that covers damage to another person’s car, along with compensation costs for injuries to other people. Your vehicle will not be covered at all. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 12:43pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Pearlyfaze: Please try all your power to fight it abeg Sunderland and Durham are beside here and d*ad does not begin to describe them All the best 1 Like |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 12:45pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 12:47pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Pearlyfaze: Is the bolded really true and can you prove that? |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 12:53pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
specialenvoy: Go through a dealer. Some can arrange finance for just-comers. You'll pay a higher interest rate of course, but still cheaper than taking out a bank loan at the rates generally offered to newish residents. 5 Likes |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Pearlyfaze: 12:57pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
TheGuyFromHR: Yes I have receipt. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 1:01pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Pearlyfaze: Semmyk has said a lot of useful things. Constructive dismissal I do know about, but depending on whether this is typical of whatever field of work she is in (relief nursing care?, is it normal for such organisations to transfer staff anywhere within a specified geographical territory where there's need, etc?) I can't say much, I'm afraid, without actually knowing what was in the contract the OP's madam signed up to. Some employers include standard mobility clauses that you will be based in so and so location, but may be required to work wherever they want you. My employer sends me to Edinburgh from time to time (for so-called networking and touching base with colleagues, but its basically to waste time and faff about), for instance. We do have employees who have a required to travel clause in their contracts, and RTT clauses are different in that that is in the nature of servicing clients wherever they may be located. Most within the UK, but a couple of the bigger boys are required to go around UK&I, if I remember clearly. My advice to the OP is the same as most - either get another job and pay the breakout penalty and get out, or just go and consult a lawyer. I know unions can offer legal advice when you join and pay the fee, but am not sure how immediate that would be. (Unions are not my thing, I'm not a member of any, but I will say they are very good things to join). And secondly, I would be surprised if the company is doing all this without a legal basis because even for people under Tier 2, that's quite a stretch. Ensure you havent any required to travel clauses or variable location ones before you unleash fire and brimstone. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 1:01pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Pearlyfaze: Receipt? 3 Likes |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by krystynaachie: 1:03pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Thank you so much for your response, I really appreciate it. You could take more courses online In line with finances and technology. Let say product marketing and management which you can find on product school, just because of your digital marketing msc you taking at the moment, this will speed up your employment credibility. You can start by applying for an internship in line with the career via combining your experience of finance and what i stated above.[/quote] |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Pearlyfaze: 1:06pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
hustla: I will fight it. Last last she go resign and if they ask her to pay back na £30 we go split am any year it finish them go take am like that. I will never go to those two places. 2 Likes |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by krystynaachie: 1:09pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: Thank you so much for your response. Please how will I know the ones that might be willing to sponsor me as it is not usually advertised that way. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Pearlyfaze: 1:13pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
TheGuyFromHR: Yes I have an email. Where the international Recruiter said since "your manager said she doesn't want you in her home". It was not just her they were 3 Black Nurses one from Zimbabwe Resigned and paid them back, my wife and the other guy from Nigeria got transferred to Newcastle and Durham respectively. One of the other International recruiter said I don't know why she doesn't like Black Nurses in her home. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by specialenvoy: 1:57pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Thank you TheGuyFromHR: |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Nobody: 3:02pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Pearlyfaze: Speak to a lawyer. All of this advice is useful but no one can give you concrete guidance until they read through the contract(s) governing this employment relationship and consider the terms in light of UK law. Any advice without that will be speculative and that's risky. Get in touch with the Union as has been suggested. They'll certainly have legal counsel they can refer you to. It might cost some money but it'll definitely be worth it. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 3:21pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
krystynaachie:So just check the list of Tier 2 sponsors. If you bring in value, they might sponsor you. They hardly ever advertise that they do because it’s not in the Recruiters place to offer, and to be honest, they would rather someone who has a full time work visa or a citizen. Just apply to the companies on the list and you should be fine. Also never fill out that you would require sponsorship. Again the key thing is to have a really strong CV so you can at least make it to the recruiter screening stage and then sell the heck out of yourself. 1 Like |
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