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Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by KnownUnknown: 1:37pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
OkCornel: Avoidance as expected. |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by OkCornel(m): 6:42pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Avoidance of what exactly? Questions that’ll veer me off course from the question I asked the OP which he’s yet to answer up till now? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by OkCornel(m): 6:47pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Exactly. And this messiah was executed by the Romans at the behest of evil and corrupt Jewish leaders. The messiah’s followers were persecuted and killed by the Romans. Centuries later, someone makes a ridiculous claim the messiah was “created” by Rome. Why will Rome persecute and kill the messiah they “created” and his followers? It doesn’t make sense. |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:09pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
OkCornel:He's mad o! Don't let him bite you! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 1:44pm On Nov 01, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Follow this thread and find out the history of your jesus or is it Serapis... |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by oteneaaron(m): 3:49pm On Nov 01, 2022 |
sonmvayina: I also learnt that Serapis is actually a hermaphrodite with both female and male features which is quite symbolic. Manly P Hall in his encyclopedia of all of the world religions - The Secret Teachings of All Ages, dedicated an entire chapter to explaining the symbology behind Serapis. This is a quote from his book about Serapis:
Androgynous - Possessing the sex organs of both sexes.
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Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by Aemmyjah(m): 5:32pm On Nov 01, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Permit me to say a very big shame on you, where do you even get all the delusions from. Today, no one can establish that Jesus Christ is a myth. You don't believe in God and Christ, you can go and find anywhere to prove it, it is available. I can use the same internet to prove to you that covid 19 was actually a hoax but it is not. If I have the same mindset like you, I'll believe it. Did you even check Wiki. Go n research on it about the historicity of Jesus Christ or encyclopedia Britannica. These are secular website to information and your analysis make you even more foolish. Instead of bringing up more concrete evidence that Jesus Christ did not exist, you are talking about the evil people have caused in his name. Did Jesus Christ not foretold this things? If groups of people use the name of the CBN governor to defraud people, is that a premise to use in proving the CBN governor does not exist? You are so blind that you can't see any light and you don't want to see any light. If you point a powerful torch to the eye of a blind man, he will feel a reaction. Your spiritual blindness is so blind that even if the sun were placed on your face, you won't budge and you want to guide others into that same darkness. Go and face the mirror, place your hands on your head and tell the person you see there to forgive you.
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Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by Lawag3: 5:36pm On Nov 01, 2022 |
sonmvayina:How confident can we be that Jesus Christ actually lived? The historical evidence for Jesus of Nazareth is both long-established and widespread. Within a few decades of his supposed lifetime, he is mentioned by Jewish and Roman historians, as well as by dozens of Christian writings. Compare that with, for example, King Arthur, who supposedly lived around AD500. The major historical source for events of that time does not even mention Arthur, and he is first referred to 300 or 400 years after he is supposed to have lived. The evidence for Jesus is not limited to later folklore, as are accounts of Arthur. What do Christian writings tell us? The value of this evidence is that it is both early and detailed. The first Christian writings to talk about Jesus are the epistles of St Paul, and scholars agree that the earliest of these letters were written within 25 years of Jesus’s death at the very latest, while the detailed biographical accounts of Jesus in the New Testament gospels date from around 40 years after he died. These all appeared within the lifetimes of numerous eyewitnesses, and provide descriptions that comport with the culture and geography of first-century Palestine. It is also difficult to imagine why Christian writers would invent such a thoroughly Jewish saviour figure in a time and place – under the aegis of the Roman empire – where there was strong suspicion of Judaism. What did non-Christian authors say about Jesus? As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ”. About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the timeframe of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition. Did ancient writers discuss the existence of Jesus? Strikingly, there was never any debate in the ancient world about whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. In the earliest literature of the Jewish Rabbis, Jesus was denounced as the illegitimate child of Mary and a sorcerer. Among pagans, the satirist Lucian and philosopher Celsus dismissed Jesus as a scoundrel, but we know of no one in the ancient world who questioned whether Jesus lived. How controversial is the existence of Jesus now? In a recent book, the French philosopher Michel Onfray talks of Jesus as a mere hypothesis, his existence as an idea rather than as a historical figure. About 10 years ago, The Jesus Project was set up in the US; one of its main questions for discussion was that of whether or not Jesus existed. Some authors have even argued that Jesus of Nazareth was doubly non-existent, contending that both Jesus and Nazareth are Christian inventions. It is worth noting, though, that the two mainstream historians who have written most against these hypersceptical arguments are atheists: Maurice Casey (formerly of Nottingham University) and Bart Ehrman (University of North Carolina). They have issued stinging criticisms of the “Jesus-myth” approach, branding it pseudo-scholarship. Nevertheless, a recent survey discovered that 40% of adults in England did not believe that Jesus was a real historical figure. Jesus was on the side of the poor and exploited. Christian politicians should remember that | Brad Chilcott Is there any archaeological evidence for Jesus? Part of the popular confusion around the historicity of Jesus may be caused by peculiar archaeological arguments raised in relation to him. Recently there have been claims that Jesus was a great-grandson of Cleopatra, complete with ancient coins allegedly showing Jesus wearing his crown of thorns. In some circles, there is still interest in the Shroud of Turin, supposedly Jesus’s burial shroud. Pope Benedict XVI stated that it was something that “no human artistry was capable of producing” and an “icon of Holy Saturday”. It is hard to find historians who regard this material as serious archaeological data, however. The documents produced by Christian, Jewish and Roman writers form the most significant evidence. These abundant historical references leave us with little reasonable doubt that Jesus lived and died. The more interesting question – which goes beyond history and objective fact – is whether Jesus died and lived. |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:40pm On Nov 01, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: The first time i read what the GB of JWs said about faithless people and Apostates i feel "is this not too presumption?" How can the overseers of a religious group condemn all the teachings of any other religion? So i tried to see if there's something elsewhere after all i wasn't born a JW so why should this so called Governing Body tell me what to do with information from other religions? But ọmọ after going through all of them including atheism i discovered that the GB was right after all. There's no religion that could match the JW organization! Matthew 5:14-16 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 1:27pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: It is sometimes claimed that Jewish writings hostile to Christianity prove that the ancient Jews knew of Jesus and that such writings prove the historicity of the man Jesus. But in fact, Jewish writings prove no such thing, as L. Gordon Rylands’ book Did Jesus Ever Live? pointed out nearly seventy years ago: …all the knowledge which the Rabbis had of Jesus was obtained by them from the Gospels. Seeing that Jews, even in the present more critical age, take it for granted that the figure of a real man stands behind the Gospel narrative, one need not be surprised if, in the second century, Jews did not think of questioning that assumption. It is certain, however, that some did question it. For Justin, in his Dialogue with Trypho, represents the Jew Trypho as saying, “ye follow an empty rumour and make a Christ for yourselves.” “If he was born and lived somewhere he is entirely unknown.” That the writers of the Talmud [4th-5th centuries CE, FRZ] had no independent knowledge of Jesus is proved by the fact that they confounded him with two different men neither of whom can have been he. Evidently no other Jesus with whom they could identify the Gospel Jesus was known to them. One of these, Jesus ben Pandira, reputed a wonder-worker, is said to have been stoned to death and then hung on a tree on the eve of a Passover in the reign of Alexander Jannæus (106-79 BC) at Jerusalem. The other, Jesus ben Stada, whose date is uncertain, but who may have lived in the first third of the second century CE, is also said to have been stoned and hanged on the eve of a Passover, but at Lydda. There may be some confusion here; but it is plain that the Rabbis had no knowledge of Jesus apart from what they had read in the Gospels. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by Aemmyjah(m): 2:30pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Lol, only God know where you get that biased info from. I can as well find articles that tells me that the Prophet Mohammed or George Washington, Shakespeare never existed. You're over funny |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:23pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: He's so funny that he doesn't even think like a normal human anymore! How can you just copy a link and think everyone will swallow what is found there without a second thought? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 8:52pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Nobody is deceiving you to worship them or that without them you can't get to God... When God , in the 10 commandments that he gave to Moses clearly admonished us "Do not have any other god before me" Exodus 20:5. It means no intermediary or mediator. Go to God directly as he wants.. So the idea of jesus is useless to man and God. It is nothing but a forgery by the Romans/Greek Christian just to deceive you. You fell for it.. Counter the facts with a more superior argument, I will entertain.. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 8:53pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: What is your second thought? Please do tell |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:24pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
sonmvayina: No more interested in arguing with you go and worship with your kind! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 9:49pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol.. When you grow up, you will learn. |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53pm On Nov 02, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Learn from a faith that has no works, shey? OK i'm coming Sir! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by Aemmyjah(m): 3:15am On Nov 03, 2022 |
sonmvayina: The Jews and Romans were hostile to Jesus and his disciples?! Yet it took up to the 19th century when people begin to doubt his existence? Learn how to think 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 2:36pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: The Romans /Greeks are the ones that invented the jesus character. There is no prophesy about God sending a son or impregnating another man's wife in the Jewish scriptures. The Jews don't have demi gods as part of their religion it is a Greek/Roman ideology. I am trying to save you from believing absurdities and think with your brain. You are still holding on to your shackle... I tire for you oh.. God has already provided everything in the Jewish scriptures...there is no such thing like a new testament....God does not make mistake... Why is it hard for you to accept? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 2:39pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: There are millions of people in the world obeying God's commandments and making effort in following them.. You don't have to belong to a cult like JW |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:19pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Unless i SEE their WORKS not audios like yours they don't exist to me. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are performing excellently throughout the earth just as God's word foretold in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 Call them anything you like just know that i'm with them for life! |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 7:57pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: It's a cult...no other way to look at it..if you are incapable of independent thought... Continue to follow and believe absurdities, aburo my concern. I know cult members who stick to their group, you won't be the first or last. But just know that you are in a group of idolators.. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Present the group that aren't idolators! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 8:31pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Torah adherents...they full everywhere |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:35pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
sonmvayina:I don't know them nor see them in ACTION but JWs i'm seeing them in ACTION! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 9:02pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You did and have not looked. You embraced the first one that came your way and appealed to your ignorance.. Do a refresh and look again.. |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:33pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
sonmvayina:Islam is the first religion that came my way through birth, only Jehovah's Witnesses widen out and had the courage to walk up to me and it took them over 18 years of persistence before i finally surrendered to them. So your Torah people only keep it to themselves just as you've always said that there's no need for group setting so there's no need searching for a religion that's OK with isolation! My guy your Torah people don't exist! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by sonmvayina(m): 8:42am On Nov 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You did not look, like I said you just embraced the one that appealed to your ignorance and the JW happens to be that one. Lol..The Torah that was given to jews is the same odinani/omenani that was given to Igbo and the same YouTube Traditional religion that the yorubas have....the only difference is the nomenclature...it was given to everybody on earth....I am only using the Torah because it is the readily available one... Don't stop at the first station, the journey continues |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13am On Nov 04, 2022 |
sonmvayina: I never left my house in search of religion or worship because i already have one, JWs had the confidence that they've got something better so they came and reasoned with me. Your Torah people supposed to do the same otherwise they themselves aren't convinced of their so called "Torah" 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by Aemmyjah(m): 9:19am On Nov 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Why argue with him. He's running in cycles. Disputing the holy Bible, defending the Torah and the Jews and nursing grudge against God I ask him Is atheism the answer? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:24am On Nov 04, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: He's really hungry for arguments that's why i often give him intelligent responses that will keep him in his place. If he wants to talk about faith in God let him go and meet people in their homes that's what the JWs did i never searched for religion or worship because i had mine back then before the JWs came to my place and that's because they were fully competent and completely equipped for the job! 2Timothy 3:16-17 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Serapis. Truth Finally Revealed. by Aemmyjah(m): 9:29am On Nov 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Someone that does not know faith and God. Spiritual things will never make any sense to him. Imagine someone believing that life came by chance. Common sense tells us that something cannot come from nothing, it is scientifically proven that life cannot emerge from non life whether by accident or probability or by experiment. Atheists defy logic and facts cos they are wise. I really want to be an atheist so I will tell myself that I am wise and keep it to myself. Wisdom that has no proofs or foundation |
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