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Magnoliaa:
There are thousands of ways you could have attacked her, even as she insulted you, but no, you picked these particular ones.

Wow. 'I am balanced and objective in addressing both men and women' in the mud.

advanceDNA:
Lol...so now when upkeep is needed the narrative that u formed it with someone becomes valid..

But you also want the right to keep or discard the life u formed with someone else to be your sole responsibility.... haba naaa....u shouldn't have it both ways...

Now i am not saying a man should leave a woman or shouldnt care for a child he formed if he wants to.......im just saying its only fair that u shouldnt legally have the right to drag of you have already legally kicked him out of the right to keep or kill it...

u shouldnt have it both ways....

advanceDNA:
There are thousands of ways?? So whats wrong with using a couple of them

Magnoliaa:
There is nothing wrong for someone who doesn't reject the 'misogynist' tag.

If it was actually any of the other boys who said so, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

advanceDNA:
Its just petty insults...u read too much meaning into it...

Magnoliaa:
Are you aware that there are a number of reasons for why a woman might chose to get an abortion? Have you considered that it is actually because a woman don't have any support system and help from the man that impregnated her?

Magnoliaa:
You're assuming that a man would always want a child, and you and I both know that that is very far from reality.

Magnoliaa:
Sole decision to make in carrying it or not. No matter what you say, you can never be a pregnant man. It is not, it has never, and it will not be your lived reality. Because "those either ways" in which you think I am going to have it, I am still going to be a partaker in ANY consequences in all ways.

- If I abort, and I am rid of health risks, both you and I are free from childcare.

- If I abort, and I still have health risks, I will bear the brunt alone.

- If I give birth to the child, both you and I are responsible for it.

- If I give birth to the child, you can decide to run away, and I will still have to take care of that child.

(- I can also give birth to the child, and drop it for you or drop it at an orphanage which is not as common as the women who decided to stay).

My point is- there is nothing about pregnancy that doesn't involve a woman in any way. She cannot detach or remove herself from "it". Whatever decisions she makes, it is still her body bearing the brunt. The only thing you have to contribute to it all is at the basic level your money, that you can choose not to do, and y'all are complaining over it this much?

We're either both rid of childcare, or we both share in raising, and a woman will have more to share in the latter. Even if the woman born, leave the pikin for you run, she still went through a nine-month pregnancy, and a life/death labour, didn't she?

Magnoliaa:
As I said, it's not all black/white like this to me. I don't see it as kicking and something that should be authoritative and draconian.

Loon at you there. You said you're not against a man caring for a child he formed if he wants, but you don't understand a woman keeping a child "if she wants?"

Because a woman has the body gives her "more" say, and there's literally nothing you can contribute to that process.

Once she gives birth, though, you can start contributing your own MORE as a father, and you'll have equal say.

Magnoliaa:
Insults don't exist in a "vacuum".

Men certainly don't consider broke-shaming "petty."

advanceDNA:
Nature conferred the baby carrying role on the woman..if we could switch, we would have ....so lets not go there...
if i want the baby, you dont want ....u can deny me because its ur body.... also, if you want and i dont want....i still dont have a say because its ur body and i must pay anyway?? Birthing is one thing paying and caring for 25 years is a different ball game..you women always like to make the birthing look more important...like i said its a nature giving talent....caring and paying isnt it..

Yeah..u can say its not black and white to you.. but when u want the law to come make it "your body your sole right to keep or kill"..it bcomes black and white......

U cant have the baby without my input..its natures design....my nature conferred role and right should kick in right from the start the same time with your nature given capability to receive the sperm and carry the child also kicked in..

claiming i dont have a say till the baby is formed and i dont even have a say other than care for a child u decided on your own to keep since its "your body and your rules alone" is total bunch of bullocks.....

advanceDNA:
Well..broke shaming is petty to me....u women use it all the time even though u dont know who u are talking to.....

Magnoliaa:
Ok, and you're not the 'determiner' of what is generally offensive.

Exactly the same way you called Jovial a single fr******* beech too when you don't know her.

advanceDNA:
I am.not speaking for the general....jovial and i are throwing jabs...bítch is a petty insult of course i know she's not a bítch....she started the the insults she onky got a reaction..... what exactly is your point on this....cos i dont get it..

I dont have the right to use some type of insult?? Or u are just trying to form solidarity for your gender as usual

Magnoliaa:
You know me so well.

advanceDNA:
Sigh.....thats why dialogue with you women here cringes me.... as long as u stay behind your gender.. every other thing can go to blazes....

DontBullshitMe:
Stupid Argument.

The baby has no "body" because it CANNOT survive independently outside the womb of the woman. For this reason, the woman should always choose/decide.

OLAADEGBU:
Martin Luther King Jr's Niece: "Women Have Right to Choose What to Do With Their Body, Not the Baby’s Body."

OLAADEGBU:
Yes but don't forget that the baby has a body and therefore has a right to live, no?

OLAADEGBU:
If it has a heartbeat it is human and you have no right to take the life of another human being, the reason it is called murder. Whether you call it foetus or unborn baby we are still referring to a living human being. The difference is that it is inside the womb of the woman.



The unborn baby is a gift from God it is not a choice. It has a body and is not a parasite. The mother does not have the right to take life because she is not God who put the life there, she is only given the right to be a custodian not the maker and taker of life.



Is it the baby's fault that the mother was raped, why punish another person for the crime of the rapist? And we know that this excuse is minimal when it comes to the case of abortions. Most cases are social not criminal. It is not by force for the mother to keep the baby after it is born, she can give it up for adoption because there are many women looking to take care of these babies. Watch the short video clip below and see why abortion is murder.

If My Father Raped My Mother...

Helpout12345:
This argument was started by democrat politicians in the US for sole purpose of using it to campaign for the mid-term elections coming up on November 8 and democrats are even lying so much about the whole thing.

The Supreme court did the right thing to overturn RoeVwade. The supreme court said RoeVwade judgement that stipulated abortion is human rights enshrined in the US constitution was a faulty decision, that no such rights exist in American constitution and any of its amendments. Therefore, any matter not in US constitution are decided by the state laws. Each state in the US has the authorities to make laws over such matters and not the federal government.

Based on this decision, democrats states that legalized abortion up to the last minute before birth can continue to have such laws while republican states are also free to limit abortions. However, democrats are lying about this to their base that the Supreme court decision has banned all abortions in the US. That is lie number 1 in democrats’ argument.

Lie number 2 in democrats’ argument is that Abortion rights is part of US constitution. US constitution is a public document. In fact, everyone can google the constitution and all its amendments to read. Abortion rights is not in US constitution.

Lie number 3 is that republican states banned all abortions without any exceptions. Most republican state laws allow abortion up to 6, 8 weeks, in case the mother’s life is in danger. So, the argument of rape and incest is killed here. If a woman is raped, she has up to 6 or 8 weeks to abort. The premise for this time frame is that a pregnancy has developed to a life by 6 to 8 weeks by having a child’s heartbeat. The democrats want to abort a child even up to 1 minute before birth at the delivery table but the republicans are saying that is radical, inhumane and lack all moral grounding on the rights of the child.

Democrats are saying a child should only have rights and be protected only 1 minutes after the child is born but they want to allow aborting the same child up to 1 minute before birth. It does not make sense. There is no difference between a child you abort 1 minute before birth and a child you protect after birth.

Once the pregnancy become a life inside the woman, breathing and kicking, that life has human rights and must be protected. We have numerous people in the world today that were born prematurely (6 month, 7month, 8 month) and living perfectly today.

My sincere advice to everyone on this abortion politics is that, please listen to both sides by watching both Foxnews (Republican controlled) and rest of American media (Democrats controlled) before you take sides so that you hear both arguments and not be fed only with one sided lies.

Saintmary:
You are just a troll


A pregnancy is a gift from God?


Stop using God in arguments like this, because most of you only remember God when you're not the one to obey Him.


Hypocrite

Saintmary:
I won't blame you for your ignorance, since a large population of the world is like you anyway.


That foetus you are fighting for, will you supply it's

Oxygen
Nutrients
Water
Blood
Iron
Platelets
Bones
Skin
Hair

After it's born, of what use are you to the well being of the mother and child?

Ectopic pregnancies, will you offer your abdomen to carry the pregnancy to term?

Preeclampsia and all other life threatening pregnancy complications, when women go through it, of what relevance are you to anyone's survival?



How many less privileged people have you supported?



Only to open your mouth waaah and spew trash.



Your type is disgusting!

OLAADEGBU:
For your information;
i) The baby's body is different from the mother's body;
ii) The unborn baby's blood is different from the mother's blood;
iii) The unborn baby's eye colour, height, hair colour and personality are all in their DNA which is distinct from the mothers'

Tell me how the mother's oxygen plays a part in babies that in the incubators or in surrogate mothers.

Real men protect women, born or unborn.

OLAADEGBU:
For your information;
i) The baby's body is different from the mother's body;
ii) The unborn baby's blood is different from the mother's blood;
iii) The unborn baby's eye colour, height, hair colour and personality are all in their DNA which is distinct from the mothers'

Tell me how the mother's oxygen plays a part in babies that in the incubators or in surrogate mothers.

Real men protect women, born or unborn.

OLAADEGBU:
How can I be a troll on a thread I opened?

Saintmary:
Maybe you should stick to your incubators then.



Real women want to live without your clinginess.

Saintmary:
How can a foetus survive without the mother?

I find your stubborn and dogged adherence to foolish unscientific points very repulsive.

To survive, an organism needs nutrients, and the mother's body produces what is needed, genetic information is stored in the DNA which affects the appearance, so your argument on appearance and genetic information is so stupid, you should not be allowed anywhere near anything educative.



Since you say the foetuses have rights, go and interact with them now, speak with them and let them speak with you.



Ungrateful lots, women don't need your understanding and appreciation anymore.

OLAADEGBU:
I still insist that the baby's body and blood are different and distinct from the mother's, they are different. You are dealing with another living human being here unless you want to tell me that you are a murderer.

OLAADEGBU:
My point is that some babies can survive outside mother's womb as from 22 weeks. How then do they get their supply of oxygen and nutrients since they are out of their mother's womb.

Saintmary:
You, and all humans who force women since the creation of the world into a state of barest existence are murderers,

Saintmary:
You were raised to cut short a woman's destiny and potential.

Saintmary:
You don't see women as complete human beings who deserve to be happy for a second of their lives.

Saintmary:
You want women to be miserable and beg you for money.

Saintmary:
You kill destinies

Saintmary:
YOU ARE A MURDERER!!!!!!

Saintmary:
The very sight of a successful woman turns your stomach.

Saintmary:
You teach your fellow men to restrict women from God's service, from education, from any form of leadership.

Saintmary:
You want to turn women into zombies as against the plans of God for them!

Saintmary:
In my opinion


YOU ARE THE WORST!!!!!!

Saintmary:
It's not my fault that nobody took the time to raise you.


No one took the effort to educate you


Stick with your fellow ignorant morons and get lost.


All the days you spent in your mother's womb are a waste.


She should have aborted you.