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Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Lance008(op): 9:32pm On Nov 08, 2022
Always try to avoid someone introducing a girl to you
Might be a plan work
The girl might be sent to destroy you
Trust no one and be safe in this cold World
There are a lot of monitoring spirit also in Nairaland here and the internet
Know this and be safe
A witch can use a soul of other witch to communicate with you
Sometimes you are not wrong
The other party is possessed and been used to disturb your peace
Not alwys you appologize
Silent is better than apology
Better you don't respond to a witch
If you do apologize
He will surely bring up the issue in coven
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Afodot0022(m): 3:23pm On Nov 09, 2022
This is really expository. Op pls keep revealing for others to learn and be informed. Dont mind those castigating you. Its either they are naive, ignorant or trying to distract you. Witchcraft is as real as the air you breath. I have had fair share experience about it. I have some questions to ask you...

How do you know you are been attacked or tormented by witches.
Are they some people that witches cannot attack.
How do you know if any of your family either mom, sister or wife is a witch and also attacking you . Thats all for now.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 3:27pm On Nov 09, 2022
Afodot0022:
This is really expository. Op pls keep revealing for others to learn and be informed. Dont mind those castigating you. Its either they are naive, ignorant or trying to distract you. Witchcraft is as real as the air you breath. I have had fair share experience about it. I have some questions to ask you...

How do you know you are been attacked or tormented by witches.
Are they some people that witches cannot attack.
How do you know if any of your family either mom, sister or wife is a witch and also attacking you . Thats all for now.
Is this really how gullible most of you have become? You take the word of any dingbat off the street as truth without doing research of your own? Op has never been a witch himself yet he claims understanding of all witches. You no ask am how? undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 3:28pm On Nov 09, 2022
Lance008:
Witches are jealous being
You can be jealous but not to extent of you going to the coven to destroy what making you jealous
I guess you can see the diff
This is a joke, right? undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 7:05pm On Nov 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
This is a joke, right? undecided
Just bumping this thread so the op can add more.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 8:38pm On Nov 09, 2022
Gnosis777:
Just bumping this thread so the op can add more.
Add more what? Bullsheet claims regarding witches who he obviously knows nothing about and the rest swallow up like spit since he claims he is from the south south? undecided

Nigerians ehn! undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 9:13pm On Nov 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Add more what? Bullsheet claims regarding witches who he obviously knows nothing about and the rest swallow up like spit since he claims he is from the south south? undecided

Nigerians ehn! undecided
I'm not Nigerian, but I am interested in supernatural/esoteric/metaphysical subjects. I'm not here to discredit or ridicule the op, because I'm not familiar with his life experiences to understand his belief in witches. There are many reasons why a person might believe in something. Personal life experiences, experiences of others, cultural beliefs, or practically anything. Just wanted to hear more of what he has to say on the subject. It's a free public forum after all.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 9:19pm On Nov 09, 2022
Gnosis777:
I'm not Nigerian, but I am interested in supernatural/esoteric/metaphysical subjects. I'm not here to discredit or ridicule the op, because I'm not familiar with his life experiences to understand his belief in witches. There are many reasons why a person might believe in something. Personal life experiences, experiences of others, cultural beliefs, or practically anything. Just wanted to hear more of what he has to say on the subject. It's a free public forum after all.
Indeed it is free forum that is why I also freely debunk the lies spread to deceive the gullible using the name of God on here. undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 9:50pm On Nov 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Indeed it is free forum that is why I also freely debunk the lies spread to deceive the gullible using the name of God on here. undecided
While I understand your frustration with the op and this topic, I think it's a bit much to say that the things he wrote are all lies. Maybe the op is writing based on personal experiences, and if this is true, then it is impossible to say that it is all lies. You can doubt that the op is telling the truth, but if he is writing based on his own experiences, then you can't say that it is all lies. It's the same as if Christian says that God showed him a vision of heaven. Again, we are free to doubt the validity of the person's claim, but if we have not actually witnessed this event ourselves, then we can't fully say 100% that it is false.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 9:53pm On Nov 09, 2022
Gnosis777:
1. While I understand your frustration with the op and this topic, I think it's a bit much to say that the things he wrote are all lies. Maybe the op is writing based on personal experiences, and if this is true, then it is impossible to say that it is all lies. You can doubt that the op is telling the truth, but if he is writing based on his own experiences, then you can't say that it is all lies. It's the same as if Christian says that God showed him a vision of heaven. Again, we are free to doubt the validity of the person's claim, but if we have not actually witnessed this event ourselves, then we can't fully say 100% that it is false.
Personal experience had many in Yoruba land formally labeling sicklecellers Abikus, demons sent to torment parents from the other side. Now we know better. Truths aren't born of personal experiences or perception and anything other than the truth is a lie/false. undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 9:58pm On Nov 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Personal experience had many in Yoruba land formally labeling sicklecellers Abikus, demons sent to torment parents from the other side. Now we know better. Truths aren't born of personal experiences or perception and anything other than the truth is a lie/false. undecided
I understand where you're coming from, but it still doesn't mean that all spiritual claims are false. That's to say that we can confirm the experiences of every single human being on earth, and that's impossible. Yes science has helped to debunk many misunderstandings of the past, but it's also impossible for science to confirm every single unexplained phenomena on earth.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 10:02pm On Nov 09, 2022
Gnosis777:
1. I understand where you're coming from, but it still doesn't mean that all spiritual claims are false. That's to say that we can confirm the experiences of every single human being on earth, and that's impossible.

2. Yes science has helped to debunk many misunderstandings of the past, but it's also impossible for science to confirm every single unexplained phenomena on earth.
1. This isn't about whether all spiritual claims are false or not. This is simply me pointing out that a particular claim is false given that it has already been debunked. undecided

2. I am not fighting on the side of science but for commonsense. undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 10:06pm On Nov 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. This isn't about whether all spiritual claims are false or not. This is simply me pointing out that a particular claim is false given that it has already been debunked. undecided

2. I am not fighting on the side of science but for commonsense. undecided
Which particular claim have you debunked from the op? Also, I brought up science because your example mentioned sickle cell and how people in Yoruba land previously believed that it came from demons. I assumed it was the breakthroughs of science that disproved that claim, but if I am wrong then I apologize.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 10:11pm On Nov 09, 2022
Gnosis777:
1. Which particular claim have you debunked from the op?

2. Also, I brought up science because your example mentioned sickle cell and how people in Yoruba land previously believed that it came from demons. I assumed it was the breakthroughs of science that disproved that claim, but if I am wrong then I apologize.
1. For one, the Abiku idea I had mentioned previously. undecided

2. There was no real evidence to support the Abiku idea to begin with. It was all powered by the delusions of individuals and peoples. Yes, science came to the rescue eventually,even though some choose still to hold on ignorantly. undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 10:18pm On Nov 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. For one, the Abiku idea I had mentioned previously. undecided

2. There was no real evidence to support the Abiku idea to begin with. It was all powered by the delusions of individuals and peoples. Yes, science came to the rescue eventually,even though some choose still to hold on ignorantly. undecided
Okay, but I am specifically mentioning the original poster and his belief that witchcraft and witches are real. Unless you have been able to monitor the op his entire life or provide that the op is lying by issuing him a lie detector test, then how can you debunk his own personal experiences? And even lie detector tests have been proven to be inaccurate at times. Bottom line is, unless you can 100% prove that someone is lying about a spiritual occurrence, then you can only choose to doubt the validity of the person's claims.

Also, I want to mention the stories in religious books such as the bible, koran etc. Many people believe these stories and many people choose not to believe them. At the end of the day, it is up to the individual person to choose to believe in whatever they want to.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 10:28pm On Nov 09, 2022
Gnosis777:
1. Okay, but I am specifically mentioning the original poster and his belief that witchcraft and witches are real. Unless you have been able to monitor the op his entire life or provide that the op is lying by issuing him a lie detector test, then how can you debunk his own personal experiences? And even lie detector tests have been proven to be inaccurate at times. Bottom line is, unless you can 100% prove that someone is lying about a spiritual occurrence, then you can only choose to doubt the validity of the person's claims.

2. Also, I want to mention the stories in religious books such as the bible, koran etc. Many people believe these stories and many people choose not to believe them. At the end of the day, it is up to the individual person to choose to believe in whatever they want to.
1. There are countless accounts online by actual witches and wizards online - more than enough to reveal they are real. What is false however, are all the delusions spewed by OP regarding them, ideas mostly based on local myths and not much else. undecided

Most of our experiences are born of the delusions we are operating on at a particular point in time so again it is wrong to claim an experience true without evidence. undecided

2. Sure, individuals are allowed to hold to ideas or not but when it comes to that which is True and that which isn't beyond oneself, it becomes more than about personal experiences or choices but that which is evidenced. Op is not himself a witch or a wizard, so his words regarding them should be considered not from a point of true but as simply his personal dissection of witches. undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 10:34pm On Nov 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. There are countless accounts online by actual witches and wizards online - more than enough to reveal they are real. What is false however, are all the delusions spewed by OP regarding them, ideas mostly based on local myths and not much else. undecided

But, I don't think it's fair to say this either, because he never said his beliefs were only based on local myths. He never stated why he believed the things he did.

Most of our experiences are born of the delusions we are operating on at a particular point in time so again it is wrong to claim an experience true without evidence. undecided Perhaps, some but not all.

2. Sure, individuals are allowed to hold to ideas or not but when it comes to that which is True and that which isn't beyond oneself, it becomes more than about personal experiences or choices but that which is evidenced. Op is not himself a witch or a wizard, so his words regarding them should be considered not from a point of true but as simply his personal dissection of witches. undecided
Well if this is true, then all religious beliefs are fake news....Christianity, Islam, etc.etc. Because none of it has been 100% proven by anyone. People can't even fully agree if there is indeed a God or not.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 12:28am On Nov 10, 2022
Gnosis777:
Well if this is true, then all religious beliefs are fake news....Christianity, Islam, etc.etc. Because none of it has been 100% proven by anyone. People can't even fully agree if there is indeed a God or not.
I didn't know that you must first be able to prove 100% the existence of God to another before you can believe in God. Whodathunkit! lipsrsealed
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 1:08am On Nov 10, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I didn't know that you must first be able to prove 100% the existence of God to another before you can believe in God. Whodathunkit! lipsrsealed
Well, I suppose the same can be said about the op and his belief and experiences with witches. If it's not necessary to 100% prove the existence of God to believe in a God, then the same can be said about virtually anything of a spiritual nature. The bible is rife with stories of men being swallowed by whales, a burning bush that can talk, visions of heaven and hell and so on, yet many people still believe in these stories although none of it has been 100% proven. So yep, the op should be able to freely share his beliefs on witches as well.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie: 3:51am On Nov 10, 2022
Gnosis777:
1. Well, I suppose the same can be said about the op and his belief and experiences with witches. If it's not necessary to 100% prove the existence of God to believe in a God, then the same can be said about virtually anything of a spiritual nature. The bible is rife with stories of men being swallowed by whales, a burning bush that can talk, visions of heaven and hell and so on, yet many people still believe in these stories although none of it has been 100% proven. So yep, the op should be able to freely share his beliefs on witches as well.
1. You don't even seem to be paying attention to the conversation you are following at all.

a. There is no meaning in trying to prove to others whether God exists or not as that is itself an exercise in futility. It you read through scriptures for instance, you will find that there are near no attempts made by any of the prophets to prove His existence to any of those whom are believed called by God So it always beats me when folks think there is some meaning to be found in proving the existence of God. People don't got to believe in God and it is no one's job or duty to prove God to anyone else. It is as simple as that. undecided

Existence of witches is not in question though. What is in question is the validity of the claims made by OP regarding witches. There are, again, numerous information online to disprove most of his claims regarding them, revealing them as nothing but imagined. So? undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Lance008(op): 7:31am On Nov 10, 2022
Afodot0022:
This is really expository. Op pls keep revealing for others to learn and be informed. Dont mind those castigating you. Its either they are naive, ignorant or trying to distract you. Witchcraft is as real as the air you breath. I have had fair share experience about it. I have some questions to ask you...

How do you know you are been attacked or tormented by witches.
Are they some people that witches cannot attack.
How do you know if any of your family either mom, sister or wife is a witch and also attacking you . Thats all for now.
Sometimes only the help of God you can know who is tormenting you
Meanwhile your dream say a lot about you
Witch attack your spirit in the dream
Don't overlook those bad dream is not normal
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Lance008(op): 8:19am On Nov 10, 2022
Gnosis777:
Well if this is true, then all religious beliefs are fake news....Christianity, Islam, etc.etc. Because none of it has been 100% proven by anyone. People can't even fully agree if there is indeed a God or not.
What is spiritual can not be proven physically
A lot of witches use this as an advantage to manipulate people because no evidence
Always notice the red flag in any friendship or relationship you are
Do not overlook red flag
That's only way your supreme helper communicate with you
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 2:50pm On Nov 10, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. You don't even seem to be paying attention to the conversation you are following at all.

a. There is no meaning in trying to prove to others whether God exists or not as that is itself an exercise in futility. It you read through scriptures for instance, you will find that there are near no attempts made by any of the prophets to prove His existence to any of those whom are believed called by God So it always beats me when folks think there is some meaning to be found in proving the existence of God. People don't got to believe in God and it is no one's job or duty to prove God to anyone else. It is as simple as that. undecided

Existence of witches is not in question though. What is in question is the validity of the claims made by OP regarding witches. There are, again, numerous information online to disprove most of his claims regarding them, revealing them as nothing but imagined. So? undecided
I am most certainly following the conversation and you are indeed cherry picking what you want to consider as "credible or acceptable" when it comes to spiritual matters. You mentioned the existence of God and then you go on to mention the scriptures which are found in the bible. Well, as I have said before, there are many people who do not believe what is written in the bible, and consider the stories in the bible to be nothing more than myths. Also, some people believe all religions are based on myths and that the existence of a god is also a myth. a

My assertion is this. Why do you get to believe the scriptures of the bible, which also include stories about a man being swallowed up by a whale and living in the belly of the whale for days, a talking burning bush, a man being swept up into the sky by a burning chariot, and a man being stopped on the road to Damascus by an angel? You see, there are people who can easily consider these things ridiculous, yet there are millions of Christians around the world who believe these stories to be true.

Again, if stories such as the aforementioned can be accepted as truth and not considered ridiculous, though there is absolutely no evidence that any of these things ever happened. Then who are you to say the op claims about witches are considered ridiculous and all lies? We can also look at it this way. What if you had never heard of the bible and the op was telling you about a man getting swallowed up and living in the belly of a whale for days, or that a man got taken up into the sky by a chariot; I wonder if you would still say that these stories are crazy and all lies. However, these stories are mentioned in the bible and many accept them as true although there has not been "any" evidence that any of these things have ever occurred.

And the same should apply to op's claims about witches as well. It's not right to accept other religious stories and even the existence of a god as 100% true, with ZERO evidence, but then turn around and ridicule the op about his claims about witches.

None of it has been proven with 100% evidence. That goes for the stories in the bible, koran, and any other religious book. So based on the lack of evidence for "any" religious assertion, then the op should be well within his right to share his own claims and experiences about witches too.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Kobojunkie:
Gnosis777:
I am most certainly following the conversation and you are indeed cherry picking what you want to consider as "credible or acceptable" when it comes to spiritual matters. You mentioned the existence of God and then you go on to mention the scriptures which are found in the bible. Well, as I have said before, there are many people who do not believe what is written in the bible, and consider the stories in the bible to be nothing more than myths. Also, some people believe all religions are based on myths and that the existence of a god is also a myth. a

My assertion is this. Why do you get to believe the scriptures of the bible, which also include stories about a man being swallowed up by a whale and living in the belly of the whale for days, a talking burning bush, a man being swept up into the sky by a burning chariot, and a man being stopped on the road to Damascus by an angel? You see, there are people who can easily consider these things ridiculous, yet there are millions of Christians around the world who believe these stories to be true.

Again, if stories such as the aforementioned can be accepted as truth and not considered ridiculous, though there is absolutely no evidence that any of these things ever happened. Then who are you to say the op claims about witches are considered ridiculous and all lies? We can also look at it this way. What if you had never heard of the bible and the op was telling you about a man getting swallowed up and living in the belly of a whale for days, or that a man got taken up into the sky by a chariot; I wonder if you would still say that these stories are crazy and all lies. However, these stories are mentioned in the bible and many accept them as true although there has not been "any" evidence that any of these things have ever occurred.

And the same should apply to op's claims about witches as well. It's not right to accept other religious stories and even the existence of a god as 100% true, with ZERO evidence, but then turn around and ridicule the op about his claims about witches.

None of it has been proven with 100% evidence. That goes for the stories in the bible, koran, and any other religious book. So based on the lack of evidence for "any" religious assertion, then the op should be well within his right to share his own claims and experiences about witches too.
Again...1. You don't even seem to be paying attention to the conversation you are following at all.

a. There is no meaning in trying to prove to others whether God exists or not as that is itself an exercise in futility. It you read through scriptures for instance, you will find that there are near no attempts made by any of the prophets to prove His existence to any of those whom are believed called by God So it always beats me when folks think there is some meaning to be found in proving the existence of God. People don't got to believe in God and it is no one's job or duty to prove God to anyone else. It is as simple as that. undecided

Existence of witches is not in question though. What is in question is the validity of the claims made by OP regarding witches. There are, again, numerous information online to disprove most of his claims regarding them, revealing them as nothing but imagined. So? undecided


OP'S story's seem fascinating to those who have never infact known witches or listened to them give accounts of what they believe, what they can or cannot really do and how untrue many of the churchian myths about then really are. Op himself is not a witch nor does he claim to have ever in fact been one. undecided
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 8:58pm On Nov 10, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Again...1. You don't even seem to be paying attention to the conversation you are following at all.

a. There is no meaning in trying to prove to others whether God exists or not as that is itself an exercise in futility. It you read through scriptures for instance, you will find that there are near no attempts made by any of the prophets to prove His existence to any of those whom are believed called by God So it always beats me when folks think there is some meaning to be found in proving the existence of God. People don't got to believe in God and it is no one's job or duty to prove God to anyone else. It is as simple as that. undecided

Existence of witches is not in question though. What is in question is the validity of the claims made by OP regarding witches. There are, again, numerous information online to disprove most of his claims regarding them, revealing them as nothing but imagined. So? undecided


OP'S story's seem fascinating to those who have never infact known witches or listened to them give accounts of what they believe, what they can or cannot really do and how untrue many of the churchian myths about then really are. Op himself is not a witch nor does he claim to have ever in fact been one. undecided
Alrighty, my future posts will only be directed at the op as this thread has been derailed enough. Good day
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Nobody: 2:45pm On Nov 13, 2022
Yes
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Lance008(op):
Let me tell this to those saying this just stories
Kindly remember am not paid to do this
Only sharing this out of experience for others not to make mistakes because i believe experience is the best teacher

Witches go extra miles to hurt you
Always know this and be safe always
Trust none but your family members I repeat trust none
Witches can get some people through this means most commonly in rural areas
Don't take cash gift from people you don't know their source of living it very dangerous
Witches sometimes control someone to steal huge amount of money after stealing the witches control the person to be generous to you and give you some part of the money after been given some part and the witch already aware spiritually then he lay a curse on the thief which everyone will give him a go ahead because he or she is looking for stolen money
The main reason for doing that is to get you and not the thief because the thief is already useless
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by triplechoice(m): 11:44am On Nov 15, 2022
Lance008:
Let me tell this to those saying this just stories
Kindly remember am not paid to do this
Only sharing this out of experience for others not to make mistakes because i believe experience is the best teacher

Witches go extra miles to hurt you
Always know this and be safe always
Trust none but your family members I repeat trust none
Witches get some people most commonly in rural areas
Don't take cash gift from people you don't know their source of living it very dangerous
Witches sometimes control someone to steal huge amount of money after stealing the witches control the person to be generous to you and give you some part of the money after been given some part and the witch already aware spiritually then he lay a course on the thief
The main reason for doing that is to get you and not the thief because the thief is already useless
Oh

Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by Gnosis777: 6:38pm On Nov 18, 2022
Lance008:
Let me tell this to those saying this just stories
Kindly remember am not paid to do this
Only sharing this out of experience for others not to make mistakes because i believe experience is the best teacher

Witches go extra miles to hurt you
Always know this and be safe always
Trust none but your family members I repeat trust none
Witches can get some people through this means most commonly in rural areas
Don't take cash gift from people you don't know their source of living it very dangerous
Witches sometimes control someone to steal huge amount of money after stealing the witches control the person to be generous to you and give you some part of the money after been given some part and the witch already aware spiritually then he lay a curse on the thief which everyone will give him a go ahead because he or she is looking for stolen money
The main reason for doing that is to get you and not the thief because the thief is already useless
I'm not sure that I 100% believe that witches exist, but I definitely believe that there are very wicked and sinister individuals that will do anything to bring another person down. And they'll use a number of means to achieve their evil plans to do it. Whether or not some of these evil beings can be considered "witches", I don't know. But, what do we really know about this thing called "reality or existence". Heck, I guess anything can be possible on this crazy shithole called earth.
Re: Do You Believe Witches Exists? by austinmilla555: 11:27pm On Nov 18, 2022
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Zaq1:
Stop being gullible and don’t get deceived by those so called hustlers called pastors

I have been to many countries only Africans takes this things serious due to illiteracy poverty and exposure

If things works well as it supposed to people will only go to church’s an hour on Sundays like developed countries.
Look you’re saying this because you’ve not been a victim and I pray you don’t Amen. If they deal with you you’ll know witchcraft is real
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