Moniya4Real:

Point of correction. Ukraine didn’t fight Russia. NATO and US Allies did either through weapons support or through sanctions. Imagine if Ukraine had not been supported with US advanced weapons not to talk of billions in military aid.

stop making excuses, it Russia not supposed to analyze all these? Are they supposed to be prepared for the worst possible scenerio.
Now their nuclear weapons are useless now that even China have warn them not to try or think or fantasize about using it

Heathrow44:
This is the most senseless war I've ever witnessed in history , there were few wins here and there bt d cons far outweighs d benefits, this war was not to have been fought in the first place,

the wins

NATO had few cracks amongst them, this war really showed how" strong" NATO truly is, but is obvious Some countries in NATO are beginning to question their place, it shows NATO is just one disaster away from complete dissolution

Strengthening the working relationships of the BRICS, Including Iran, NK, Belarus

Russia has shown that US sanctions cannot be as devastating as they paint it to be, more countries would call US sanctions as Bluff henceforth

Now someone is being at least truthful here.

Really had NATO been as Strong & Powerful as they claim, they ought not be scared of a single Country such as Russia but e get WHY dem never make attempt at attacking Russia. Not until this Fight, I knew nothing of Russia / BRICS.

What about the grain deal ? Russia agreed because they felt POOR countries would benefit from it BUT no, a major bulk of it went to wealthy countries. Something Russia complained so much they almost pulled out of it.

Might not be 100% sure BUT Russia seems to be more giving than the WEST

texazzpete:


And this is how we know you're completely in the dark about what happens in Ukraine.

First off, i don't know where you pulled your 60% figure from. That's BS

Secondly, Western air defence systems only started getting delivered in earnest in recent weeks, after the huge waves of suicide drone + cruise missile attacks. Since then, Ukraine has been supplied with NASAMS, Hawk and IRIS-T units that are performing fantastically.

Prior to this, Ukraine was using their S-300 systems + MANPADs. Also tasking pilots to shoot some of the missiles and drones down.

You're clearly clueless about how the war is going. That's what happens when you follow RT's propaganda

U dat know everything! Why not tell me how many percent of power infrastructure Russia has taken down in Ukraine? Then, am telling u about hypersonic missile strikes, u talking about drones? Long short, it doesn’t matter wot defense system u bring from the west, Ukraine can’t prevent destruction to her infrastructure. I know those u pay too much attention to CNN are inherently dumb

Cudos to the west as the world powers. Russia - Purin military are incompetent in action, although they have automated and strategic nukes. Meanwhile, no European countries would ever be afraid of Russia anymore. Moreover, NATO shouldn't relent efforts in doubling up their military might, artillery and more nukes.
Putin is psychologically empty after wasting so many lives and property.

Where are the pro Putin bulldogs on nairaland?

Some idiots will never cease to amaze me.

Penguin2:
Lol

But where are the Putin supporters who predicted that Ukraine will be done with within 72 hours?

Where are those fools?

You’d be surprised how people would open their two eyes and choose to support evil; and be speaking big grammar on top of it.

Or are they Muslims that want the downfall of America or what?

Surprisingly, these same folks are the ones supporting Tinubu despite his frailties, ills and terrible past.

But I prophesy today, that as Putin failed in Ukraine with all his “Structure” and nuclear warheads against a “structureless” Ukraine who had to quickly assemble a military to combat Russia, so shall Tinubu and even Atiku fail with all their structures against a structureless Labour Party.

The war in Ukraine was not just a war, it was a battle between darkness and light, between freedom and repression, between the big boy who felt he had all the structure to bully the small guy and the small guy who is only seeking his self preservation.

And as always, light will always be victorious over darkness!

You need to take the need to take your medication regularly seriously.
A withdrawal from a city by Russia, you began to call people fools, mentioning Tinubu and his supporters and calling out Muslims, etc. You're not that different from the madman walking down the street nakedly

HornyTave:
Russia is losing yet in control of land mass of the size of three times south eastern Nigeria. lol.

watch Ukraine come for mariupol, then you will know Russia is kpon kpon. Crimea will be defence less.

texazzpete:


They've been battling around Bakhmut for months now. No success. Ukraine is happy to tie down the bulk of Wagner there and inflict heavy casualties on them.

Imagine celebrating pulling out of massive, strategic Kherson to take over small hamlets like Ivangrad or Optyne at terrible cost.

E say na 'textbook' pull out. Elegant retreat, abi?

How can u call Russian loss incredible when Ukrainian lose 500 men everyday? In Layman Russia lost only 100 men, while Ukraine lost 5000! Its dat bad
As for Kherson, a city is just a city. U move up and down on the chess board b4 u deliver a mate. The goal is the issue not a place. This is wot the Ukrainians do not understand that make dem lose staggering amount of fighters. As for Barkmut, if it falls, Ukraine is undone. U call dat small?

Putin will rather use his last nuclear warhead than surrender.

However, if ever surrenders, he will cease to be the president (he will either be taken out or denied a chance to be a candidate in their next election come 2024) and he knows that, hence the reason he will forge ahead with the war.

In all that have happened, Putin and his all mighty 2nd most powerful military in the world has been demystified.

Next would be China, but China na cunny man. They'd rather engage in cyberwarfare with US than an open-armed warfare with the US.

olugabbie:


Crimea is simply not enough for Putin. The minimum he can take is the entire Donbas, part of Kherson the Russian troops currently occupy and part of Zaprophizia they occupy as well.

Russia is not keeping zaprophiza

Osariemen12:
Laughs.


Ukraine is winning online.

And where is Russia winning? Offline?

texazzpete:


So Russia is apparently fighting US enslavement by invading a sovereign nation, stealing their land, raping women, butchering elderly folks, stealing their properties, destroying their infrastructure, erasing their language, culture, currency and kidnapping their children.

Are you mentally OK like this?

See eh, to Russia & according to history, Ukraine no be original country. and Crimea was part of Russia till a mistake was made that put it in the hands of Ukraine hence why Russia took it back around year 2014. A lot of people either don't know their history or choose to be ignorant.

And yea, Russia dey fight over 40-countries because Ukraine has both Financial , Military aids including foreign mercenaries (foreign soldiers), etc being supplied to them WHILE na Russia dey finance themselves.

It's like you're playing Woth game with someone, yet about 5 other people are busy assisting that person with some even peeping at your own game to inform your opponent.

Russia kept fighting like mumu but not until the WEST said Russia is intentionally prolonging the FIGHT, I almost thought Russia might be weak. See their swift reaction, just say bridge wey dey Crimea (which Ukraine claims is part of Ukraine) was bombed - no be say na better bombing Ooo, because that bridge was repaired same day meaning it was just a minor damage. now imagine had they been seriously fighting, fight suppose don end since.

And the manufacture their equipment even though they sometimes import.

See eh, the Mistake the WEST made is constantly sanctioning strong Countries - You end up teaching them to be more reliant to themselves.

Maybe make dem come sanction Nigeria small. Just small abeg Oooo make we no die abeg

rottennaija:

Funny people everywhere

What is your proposal for peace?

Invasion and liberation of kherson.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1591413841619046401

Peace is best abeg.. so many have died. Putin accept the terms or be open to compromise

Sagamite:


Moronic and propagandish news report.

I am sure the only negotiations Putin will agree to are:

1) Crimea remains part of Russia
2) Donbas/captured region is run separately (like Taiwan/Kosovo)
3) The West ends/softens economic sanctions aimed at destroying Russia
4) Ukraine stops any military progress

Then Putin will stop the bombing of the Rest of Ukraine and let grains go around the world.

The West cannot sustain their support for Ukraine. Russia cannot sustain the war while the West is blocking his weapons development supply chain.

But Russia does have longer sustainance of war than the West's support sustainance. Hence, the West will have to come to the negotiating table.

As long as Russia intends to continue the war, the West will:

a) Have to fund Ukraine's War efforts
b) Send aid around the world as people starve
c) Deal with conflicts breaking out around the world as people blame governments for their hunger and bias/marginalisation
d) Then deal with high rates of migration to their countries as people flee hunger

These will be too expensive for the West and throw them in turmoil as they have too many woke iiidiots. They will want to end this war! They will rather use far less funds to help rebuild the rest of Ukraine.

That your number 4 is not possible

Sagamite:


Moronic and propagandish news report.

I am sure the only negotiations Putin will agree to are:

1) Crimea remains part of Russia
2) Donbas/captured region is run separately (like Taiwan/Kosovo)
3) The West ends/softens economic sanctions aimed at destroying Russia
4) Ukraine stops any military progress

Then Putin will stop the bombing of the Rest of Ukraine and let grains go around the world.

The West cannot sustain their support for Ukraine. Russia cannot sustain the war while the West is blocking his weapons development supply chain.

But Russia does have longer sustainance of war than the West's support sustainance. Hence, the West will have to come to the negotiating table.

As long as Russia intends to continue the war, the West will:

a) Have to fund Ukraine's War efforts
b) Send aid around the world as people starve
c) Deal with conflicts breaking out around the world as people blame governments for their hunger and bias/marginalisation
d) Then deal with high rates of migration to their countries as people flee hunger

These will be too expensive for the West and throw them in turmoil as they have too many woke iiidiots. They will want to end this war! They will rather use far less funds to help rebuild the rest of Ukraine.

that your number 4 is not possible

May God continue to bless king Putin.

Soon, the Red Army will be on rampage again and let no NATO sympathizer here in nairaland cry foul..ooo.
I don't want to hear civilians that civilian this..ooo

obedience4:


Bro, stop lying, Russians hasn't made any gains for over 3 months,
Please the so call amagadon general, was in Russian TV and declared that Russian force's are moving out of Kherson,
You are here claiming they are still there'
Please attached to your reply with Prof that Russia has made any gains in over 3 months,
Go to telegram and see pro Putin criticizing the pull out

I might not have been opportuned to watch the Tv, but for you that watched him give such announcement, I believe their reason was given which you have failed to give.

GarkiAccessory:
@ senator282 I send a mail u have not replied

I got notification of the mail but I couldn't see the content of the mail

Osariemen12:
Laughs.


Ukraine is winning online.

Keep on laughing , even in the face of Russia's humiliation.

I guess Russia is winning offline, regardless of the fact that a war that was to end in one month is entering its tenth month, despite the mass loss of Russian Soldiers which necessitated mobilization of 300,000 conscripts.


Yes , Russia is winning offline, that is why their young Men are fleeing to other countries so that they won't fight the war they are already winning; that's why they have pulled out of Kherson, which is the only major city they ever occupied. Yes Russia is winning offline - Lol �, I laugh in Ukrainian.

SIRTee15:
If russian accede to this demand, then this is the most useless war ever fought by Russians. What they offering Russia was her initial pre war status. That means u just killed your fellow russian men for nothing but stupid ego.
There's not even the assurance that Ukraine won't join NATO or EU..was that not the main bone of contention.

The source of that news is Dailymail. Take it like a pinch of salt. In good negotiation is one in which bith sides are unhappy with the outcome

orisa37:
UKRAINE, FINLAND, NORWAY AND TURKEY ARE RIGHT FOR STRENGTHENING NATO.
RUSSIA IS UP TO NO GOOD. PUTIN IS THE MADMAN HERE. TELL PUTIN HE IS MAD FOR INVADING ANOTHER MAN IN HIS HOME.

If you study the NATO expansion, may be you know better. If you are part of the Russian elites and you watch the US (a country that is thousands of kilometers away from Europe) deployed Nuclear weapon to Turkey in the name NATO. Then the US extended nuclear weapon deployment to Belgium, Germany, Italy and Netherlands.

Would you just sit back and watch them do whatever they like. The main problem is the sharing of the US nuclear weapon to non-nuclear countries in Europe. This is highly irresponsible. So imagine if Russia, China, India, Pakistan e.t.c decide to do the same.

Putin is not a fool. The Russians have been patience. They have been warning the West for years about the security architecture of Europe.

Eagba:
Russia is not keeping zaprophiza

Well let's wait and see.

joyandfaith:

Good proposal. I hope Putin would listen.

his been longing for this for a long time, just that Ukrainian forces made a mistake with the cremea bridge and such mistake is what Russia has been waiting to capitalize on to destroy infrastructures ànd kill lives after suffering great lost in battle field.

franktech:
Russia willingly left the location my dear. The west and propaganda are like husband and wife

Tell me another Lie,

You mean it wasn't defeat that sent Russia out of that territory?

Krismas:
First buying projectiles from Iran is wonderful. Sometimes it feels good to know u have allies too. So u can see, u urself do not believe Russia has run out of missiles as dey can replenish from Iran If American air defense were of any good, how manage 60% of Ukraine is in darkness? Russian missiles damaged Ukraine power infrastructures while American defense systems stood idly by?

lmao

bassdow:


Now someone is being at least truthful here.

Really had NATO been as Strong & Powerful as they claim, they ought not be scared of a single Country such as Russia but e get WHY dem never make attempt at attacking Russia. Not until this Fight, I knew nothing of Russia / BRICS.

What about the grain deal ? Russia agreed because they felt POOR countries would benefit from it BUT no, a major bulk of it went to wealthy countries. Something Russia complained so much they almost pulled out of it.

Might not be 100% sure BUT Russia seems to be more giving than the WEST

Russia has long pulled out of the grain deal. After grain ships were used by the west to smuggle weapons and stage drones attack against Russia Black Sea fleet. The west is just mad!

Krismas:
Russia has long pulled out of the grain deal. After grain ships were used by the west to smuggle weapons and stage drones attack against Russia Black Sea fleet. The west is just mad!

You still de show your dirty brown 32, abeg change your name to krisLIES

The people that believe this nonsense news are some of the dumbest creatures on earth, who have a brain but can't use it. They cant detect propaganda when they see one, and their thinking is ''one-way'' by default.

Why don't you guys who believe this propaganda hear from the Russians themselves or listen to news from India, China, South Africa, Iran, or Serbia? Since this war started, only western sources are shown on nairaland, which is undemocratic in nature, and will lead to ''mental kwashiorkor'' of guillible, or do you eat only Eba every day? So why listen to only one source of news?

Firstly, no stupid terms were offered to Russia, and secondly, Russia did not suffer any humiliating defeat in Kherson. Russia withdrew to save civilian lives, to remove any pretext that will make Kyiv bomb the civilians there. If anyone remembers, this was what Russia did six months ago when they withdrew from Kyiv to foster negotiations.

For you dumbass that has no independent mind, I repeat, Russia withdrew to save lives, they were not defeated or chased out of Kherson. Please learn to see news from multiple sources, and most importantly, learn to use your brain, that's why God gave it to you. If you really believe Ukraine can defeat Russia, a nuclear power, then its over. You are officially maad.

fortunez1:
his been longing for this for a long time, just that Ukrainian forces made a mistake with the cremea bridge and such mistake is what Russia has been waiting to capitalize on to destroy infrastructures ànd kill lives after suffering great lost in battle field.

He is not longing for it. Putin has imperial objective.

pipnator00:
Putin will rather use his last nuclear warhead than surrender.

However, if ever surrenders, he will cease to be the president (he will either be taken out or denied a chance to be a candidate in their next election come 2024) and he knows that, hence the reason he will forge ahead with the war.

In all that have happened, Putin and his all mighty 2nd most powerful military in the world has been demystified.

Next would be China, but China na cunny man. They'd rather engage in cyberwarfare with US than an open-armed warfare with the US.

Which nuclear head will he use? Let this humiliation continues, watch and see how his he will be slaughtered by his own
Go nuclear my ass!