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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 7:36pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
spirul77:Mumu. I knew u know NOTHING. Wot amount of donations come into Africa every year is not equal to wot flows out of it yearly. Ur slave mentality will block ur view from seeing the harm colonial masters continue to cause u. America place a debt based economy in ur hands, subject u to perpetual second class with a capitalist system. And all u talking about is aids u get? Russia wants to change the world order. Its not just about invading a neighbor. Its about a complete charge in d way dis world is being ran. That’s why America is ready to spend 200 billion USD in 8months for as long as it takes, on Ukraine. U tink it’s charity? Or dey love Ukraine so much? U beta wake up 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by bassdow: 7:37pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
joyandfaith: You don't seem to Obey what You WROTE on your Signature |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Awesometouch1: 7:56pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
unclejb2:The West has already laid plans that'll see to the progressive weakening of the Russian military. They are plucking their feathers one after the other. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by pansophist(m): 7:57pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
alcuin: It's a reflection of the failed educational system. No independent thinking whatsoever. Thinking with feelings, intellectually weak, and a baggage to themselves due to lack of self-leadership. I blame Clifford Orji for this. Na him fault lol 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Anndrew(m): 8:03pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
big7:you talk like a kid,beer parlour gist..Nigeria army can't stand Russia army..known this and know peace..this are power broker country..Russia is a first world country..like I say..u talk like a kid |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by pansophist(m): 8:05pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
bassdow: The profanities are offensive jabs, to test their resolve, and hope they engage me, and let me school them with verifiable facts. A person standing on truths and facts needs not to fear a challenger. So far, none of those airheads have picked conversations with me. I mean how can Russia be losing when Ukrainians are now rationing firewood to warm their house? Where Russia occupies up to 20% of its territory, a size comparable to Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg combined? How can they be winning when millions of their citizens are scattered everywhere for asylum purposes? Where the government can't fund its budget without western support? The cognitive dissonance is not just appalling, it's annoying. There are topics I won't comment on because I don't know a lot about the subject at hand. But for these folks to have the audacity to perpetuate a lie in their ignorance deserves a thunderstrike from amadioha. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 8:15pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
pansophist:Don’t mind d idiots! They are d ones pushing Zelensky to suicide mode. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Globetrot: 8:21pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
I can't help but laugh at the level of knowledge shown on this thread, the west should brace up, it's going to be terrible in the next 2 months, A quick reminder, Russia amassed a huge number of troops in Belarus since last month, they have been hibernating, doing literally nothing, I see a PRAY FOR KIEV happening in western media, Mark this words. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Hotice085: 8:24pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: You are comparing Hollywood fictions and real life situations? Who allowed you into this space, you deserve to be canned like a � seriously until you receive common sense |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by TheGift: 8:33pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Osariemen12: Are you sure you are responding to the right post? Oh! I just realized; you may not have realized that I was being sarcastic. As in "Sarcasm": "the use of remarks that clearly mean the opposite of what they say, made in order to criticize something in a humorous way" Now read my post again. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 8:39pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Hotice085:Wen I said game of thrones, who told u I was referring to d movie? Ur level of intelligence is too low, though dats a common thing among all NATO supporters. But I will not reply u again. Bye 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Hotice085: 8:46pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: Tadpole brain, I believe you Uncle must be the drunk sailor who sank the mothership Lies and senseless gibberish your speciality... Now go smoke and puff on your cheap weed , crack head |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Toktee(m): 8:57pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Osariemen12:see this clown.... was it Ukraine that ran away from kharson on foot across river dinapro at night? |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Toktee(m): 9:04pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas:When will you and yours given up on the failure called Putin? Russia ran away from Bucha,Chernobyl, Lyman, etc, and finally ran away from kharson yet you guys cannot cover your faces in shame, why? |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Mrtaye: 9:08pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
ken6488:Are they afraid of being trapped abi how you see am....as a super power with all the arsenals at their disposal can't they fight their way out against the Ukrainians in kherson |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Osariemen12: 9:10pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Toktee: The military operation in Ukraine has achieved its aim - to annex the four regions. Deal with it. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by BentizilL: 9:14pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Okealaaye:Well I'm Pro-Russia and Pro-BAT, so you better know that we're celebrating together in 2023... 2023 for BAT is a done deal. No candidate come close, his stellar achievements in governance speaks for him.. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Mrtaye: 9:14pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
slimghost:Why did they have to tactically leave in a hurry,why can't as the super power that they are with all the warheads and arsenal at their disposal fight and maneuver their way to retain kherson afterall they have organised an illegal referendum to annex it as part of russia so how come they are running from their own territory |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Mrtaye: 9:15pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Sltp:Lolz russia needs to avoid it more |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Gben5: 9:34pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
temitope27:you no just Sabi anything pass like and share... nonsense |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 9:35pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Toktee:How many more Ukraine territories is still in the hands of Putin? Wen will u and ur useless NATO hold ur heads in shame? After spending 200 billion USD and putting foreign soldiers on Ukraine battle fields, MANPADs, HIMAS, satellite guidance, tanks, air defense systems etc. All you can boast of is bucha, Lyman, Izyum, Kherson? U should be ashamed. Putin is still occupying about 15% of Ukraine land 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by slimghost(m): 9:51pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Mrtaye: You sounded a bit informed so I will respond to you. The SMO is not an all out war on Ukraine. Unlike what we are used to with NATO leveling cities and killing civilians. Russia has shown they can hit anywhere in Ukraine if and when they want, with the hit on their key infrastructure. Russia defeated Ukraine months ago, they are fighting NATO now. If you do not know this, then I shouldn’t be engaging you. And yes, they have the highest nuclear warheads in the world and can hit anywhere in the west and to devastating effects. Stop digesting NATO and west BS. Start reading on your own. The Kherson withdrawal was tactical as they might not be able to defend the region. Ukraine is still scared of advancing into the region today as they believe it is a trap. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Mrtaye: 10:46pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
slimghost:Kremlin spokesman was this what putin told you |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by caracas: 11:54pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Penguin2:I hope china is learning Light will always defeat darkness |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by slimghost(m): 12:57am On Nov 13, 2022 |
Mrtaye: No, I carry out independent researches and read a lot. Start doing same and stop swallowing the BS from the West. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Bentonite1: 1:20am On Nov 13, 2022 |
Osariemen12: Kherson was annexed right? where's Kherson today? expect more. the war has only began.putin knows he's in a trap he can't get out. good for him if he leaves or expect similar casualties he suffered in Finnish cold war and WWII |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Ayatullah(m): 1:39am On Nov 13, 2022 |
Noblechykk: Very, very bad.
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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by preciousmetals: 2:20am On Nov 13, 2022 |
You mean Russia left willingly a region they have signed into law as part of Russia Federal and imposed a marchal law to the region, you must be a big fooool franktech: |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ocelot2006(m): 2:58am On Nov 13, 2022 |
Hehehehehe. This is what I call super story. Terms of surrender ke? That Russia has to give up Crimea?? Home of it's Naval Black Sea fleet for HUNDREDS OF YEARS? Whoever concorted this tale by moonlight needs his head checked then rechecked. That fantasy ain't happening AT ALL. And all this crap is coming out of the Kherson withdrawal. I think a number of things should be pointed out: (1)Prior to the announced withdrawal, it is on record that Ukraine were NEVER able to defeat Russia militarily in western Kherson. Every Ukrainian counter attack till date where TOTALLY REPULSED (Russian Airborne and Naval Infantry no bi dia mate). (2)The Russian military command had always been pushing for that withdrawal since June as it made more tactical sense moving them to the east thus making resupplies easier. Still even with Ukrainian HIMARS attack, the Russians still kept their troops resupplied. (3)Even with the way western media houses are spinning the Kherson withdrawal as a "humiliating defeats" and all what not, western military experrts are grudgingly accepting the fact that Gen Surovikin's decision to pull his force to the east bank made PERFECT tactical sense. Not only that, the Russians had achieved a major military feat pulling out 30,000 of some of it's elite forces and 5,000 pcs of heavy equipment in an orderly fashion. Not only that, the eastern bank is on a much higher elevation, giving the Russian artillery much better advantage. (4)No matter how the Ukrainians try to spin this, they were equally shocked with the Russian military's decision. That's why they were extremely cautious in their approach as they beaten back so many times by same Russian force that was withdrawing. Even when they finally grew some balls to press on push forward, Russian mines and artillery strikes held them back about 40-60km before the Russians pulled their final forces and blew up both bridges across the Dnieper, effectively halting any Ukrainian advance eastwards. (5) despite leaving Kherson city and it's environs at the western back, Russia still holds 60% of the Kherson Oblast. Now Russia has an additional 30,000 elite force that it can now redeploy to the Donbass to clear the stalemate. And let's not forget the 300,000 reserve that may likely be deployed in theatre by the end of this November or a bit later. We're talking about additional offensives in the making. Even with the 80,000 already deployed a few weeks ago, the Russians are already making gains in the Donetsk region. So you'll pardon me if I consider that story as outright hogwash. The Russians are just warming up for a brutal winter war. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ocelot2006(m): 3:01am On Nov 13, 2022 |
Bentonite1: Russia only left Kherson city and areas at the west bank. Russia still controls 60% of the Kherson Oblast on the east bank. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ocelot2006(m): 3:07am On Nov 13, 2022 |
obedience4: I think you better follow up on the current happenings on the Donetsk front. Ardiivka, Ukraine's primary military hub that oversees it's Donetsk operation is already under threat as the Russians have placed it in a somewhat semi encirclement. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ocelot2006(m): 3:24am On Nov 13, 2022 |
texazzpete: Hawks? The fact that the Americans supplied the Ukrainians with refurbished 1960s Hawk tech clearly shows that the west is scrambling to address the Russian missile strike threat. Even the S300 is way more effective, yet whatever is remaining is being knocked out by the Russians who btw made them. Keep in the mind that the NASAMs supplied are basically for point defences only in Kyiv, are very few, and can be easily be overwhelmed. That's why the Russians carried out missile strikes on the cheap, using swarms of very cheap Geran drones followed by Kalibre missiles, and have so far knocked off Ukrainian air defences and 30-40% of it's power infrastructure. The RuAF are even using these cheap Geran drones to lure in Ukrainian Airforce who use the Mig-29s and Su-27s to intercept these drones only to have them knocked down beyond visual range by Russian MIG-31s (there're even talks of the Su-57 Felons carrying out long distant kills). To make matters worse, the Russians have acquired more potent kamikaze drones from the drones with much larger payloads. Meanwhile, another Russian loiter munition, the Lancet drone, is busy wrecking havoc on the Ukrainians in the battlefields across Ukraine. So far the Lancet and German have proven to be far more effective than the American switchblade drones given to the Ukrainians. 1 Like |
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