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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:48pm On Nov 18, 2022
basilico:


If you think you know thing anything mention me there.
This is an American forum thing.. we digress at times because of circumstances.
You are an obnoxious personae by the way. Look for cash to warm you over winter .. Ill be slaughtering goats, ducks and cows at will in broad sunlight while you shudder why Putin invaded Ukraine. smiley smiley over your next winter
Do you really think I can't pay my own heating bills and pay someone to slaughter goats, ducks and cows for me if that's what I want to eat, or do you think slaughtering in daylight imbues them with extra flavour?

Here you know nothing but what qanon fills your head with, so why would I bother mentioning you anywhere else when it's obvious you'd know nothing there?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kkins25(m): 11:03pm On Nov 18, 2022
Ibime:


You are stuck in-between reality and becoming brainwashed. You will soon go to the other side.

I assume you mean SBF. Who told you he is on stalemate?
Oh really, how can you tell?? plus, how do i know you aren't brainwashed yourself?? We've seen alot of that on the demo-cats recently.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 11:20pm On Nov 18, 2022
kkins25:
Oh really, how can you tell?? plus, how do i know you aren't brainwashed yourself?? We've seen alot of that on the demo-cats recently.

I can tell from the half baked points you made about SBF which are straight out of misinformation portals as if SBF is being defended by anyone and won't get his just due if found to be breaking the law

Bankruptcy process of a company takes time to establish where the assets and liabilities are, and.if the directors have committed any fraud in the course of their work

Enron filed for bankruptcy in Dec 2001, their CFO wasn't arrested until October 2002

FTX has just been assigned a CEO to oversee this process who is the same CEO that unravelled the mess at Enron

Secondly, there is little legal framework for Crypto. SBF executed a flywheel scheme which while being unethical may not be covered by laws as little or no laws have been passed for Crypto. Scheme illustrated below. To actually nab SBF, they will need more than flywheel scheme and need to establish whether he has transferred creditors assets to himself, which I'm sure they will be eager to do. The FBI has put in an extradition request to Bahamas for questioning. Note that questioning is different from charging. USA does not play with financial markets fraud regardless of who the offender is. Their whole financial system depends on it.

Similar scheme was executed by Do Kwon with Luna in Singapore which collapsed in March or so, and till date, Do Kwon has not been charged by Singapore authorities because there is little legal framework to do so.

So everything you typed only lets me know what your information sources and social media algorithms are leading you to, which is why I say you are on the borderline. A simple counterargument to the fallacy you typed is that FTX co CEO is equally a major Republican donor and has not been charged either. Any charging will be done after accounting investigations and audit trails, just like any other financial investigation, not because your misinformation sources tell you "he is at a stalemate"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale2: 11:34pm On Nov 18, 2022
Ibime:


I can tell from the half baked points you made about SBF which are straight out of misinformation portals as if SBF is being defended by anyone and won't get his just due if found to be breaking the law

Bankruptcy process of a company takes time to establish where the assets and liabilities are, and.if the directors have committed any fraud in the course of their work

Enron filed for bankruptcy in Dec 2001, their CFO wasn't arrested until October 2002

FTX has just been assigned a CEO to oversee this process who is the same CEO that unravelled the mess at Enron

Secondly, there is little legal framework for Crypto. SBF executed a flywheel scheme which while being unethical may not be covered by laws as little or no laws have been passed for Crypto. Scheme illustrated below. To actually nab SBF, they will need more than flywheel scheme and need to establish whether he has transferred creditors assets to himself, which I'm sure they will be eager to do. The FBI has put in an extradition request to Bahamas for questioning. Note that questioning is different from charging

Similar scheme was executed by Do Kwon with Luna in Singapore which collapsed in March or so, and till date, Do Kwon has not been charged by Singapore authorities because there is little legal framework to do so.

So everything you typed only lets me know what your information sources and social media algorithms are leading you too, which is why I say you are on the borderline. A simple counterargument to the fallacy you typed is that FTX co CEO is equally a major Republican donor and has not been charged either. Any charging will be done after accounting investigations and audit trails, just like any other financial investigation, not because your misinformation sources tell you "he is at a stalemate"
Correct.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Havertz10: 11:49pm On Nov 18, 2022
IjeBos:


It is really curiosity. My dad is a Republican. Donated to Trump and all. No-one in the family really talks to him. So I'm always trying to understand him. So curious as to why. We can chat off this topic if you want.
Trump is social vehicle that is used to express displeasure at status quo, there are so many dynamics at play but i’m guessing that your dad is black so it will most likely be the religious/ conservative angle that makes trump appealing to him.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:29am On Nov 19, 2022
IjeBos:


It is really curiosity. My dad is a Republican. Donated to Trump and all. No-one in the family really talks to him. So I'm always trying to understand him. So curious as to why. We can chat off this topic if you want.

As you grow older you will also see what he saw that made him Republican

If you are in your 20s it makes sense to be Democratic when you grow older you will see what he saw

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:36am On Nov 19, 2022
PDPGuy:
The appointment of a Special Counsel by AG Garland was the smart political/legal move. This is because it would have been highly problematic for a Biden DOJ to indict Biden's (or another Democrat's) potential 2024 opponent, as it would have created an appearance of bias/conflict of interest.

Thanks for the explanation. I have been trying to figure out what it means and how soon can they conclude
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by adamusuleiman11: 4:00am On Nov 19, 2022
Fall guy (Allen Weisselberg) said Trump Kids gave him a raise after finding out about tax schemes.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by adamusuleiman11: 4:53am On Nov 19, 2022
MTG said she and other MAGAt Republicans have a plan to stop the special counsel:

"the special counsel which is nothing but a democratic party campaign arm to campaign against Donald Trump who is running for President in 2024.. They can tell Jack Smith he is not going to get much of a paycheck. It's going to be real simple. We are not going to do this. That's it. We're gonna stop them and we are gonna do it through the power of the purse "

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:03am On Nov 19, 2022
Havertz10:
Trump is social vehicle that is used to express displeasure at status quo, there are so many dynamics at play but i’m guessing that your dad is black so it will most likely be the religious/ conservative angle that makes trump appealing to him.

My hypothesis has been, Trump appeals to people who are scared of losing power. White Males etc. They are scared of losing Power to minorities and women. I think that is where my dad fits in. He's not white but a successful man. And so he enjoys the power the social construct of the past, esp. Nigeria's past affords him. He sees the loss of power from his own selfish vantage point and wants to cling on to it esp. when it comes to women. Look at all the misogyny and sexism on this board. It all stems from the believe that women are not equal to men or men are divinely superior. That is what my dad believes. He's not shy about telling his children or his wife that he is our Lord and we should obey him. lol. There's also the fact that he got his. And doesn't want anyone to displace that. What's sad and frustrating is that the Republican policies he advocates, if successful would directly harm him. He has a very very good pension (I think it was 95% of his salary when he retired) and his salary was very good. And so it's amazing watching him cheer on Republicans as they talk about scaling back pensions or scaling back Medicare, which he is on as well.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:06am On Nov 19, 2022
adamusuleiman11:
MTG said she and other MAGAt Republicans have a plan to stop the special counsel:

"the special counsel which is nothing but a democratic party campaign arm to campaign against Donald Trump who is running for President in 2024.. They can tell Jack Smith he is not going to get much of a paycheck. It's going to be real simple. We are not going to do this. That's it. We're gonna stop them and we are gonna do it through the power of the purse "


Yeah, she should have spent more time learning how governments work. The House is 1/2 of that purse, the Senate is the other. No such bill would pass the Senate. And to defund the Special Prosecutor they would most likely have to defund the whole Justice department. Good Luck with that.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 5:14am On Nov 19, 2022
raumdeuter:


Thanks for the explanation. I have been trying to figure out what it means and how soon can they conclude

Special Prosecutors don't have a set timeline. They are independent of the Justice department so it's hard to stop them unless there is malfeasance. I would suspect he would try to wrap up by the middle of next year (indict, not indict), as far out as election season as possible.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:45am On Nov 19, 2022
Ibime:


I can tell from the half baked points you made about SBF which are straight out of misinformation portals as if SBF is being defended by anyone and won't get his just due if found to be breaking the law

Bankruptcy process of a company takes time to establish where the assets and liabilities are, and.if the directors have committed any fraud in the course of their work

Enron filed for bankruptcy in Dec 2001, their CFO wasn't arrested until October 2002

FTX has just been assigned a CEO to oversee this process who is the same CEO that unravelled the mess at Enron

Secondly, there is little legal framework for Crypto. SBF executed a flywheel scheme which while being unethical may not be covered by laws as little or no laws have been passed for Crypto. Scheme illustrated below. To actually nab SBF, they will need more than flywheel scheme and need to establish whether he has transferred creditors assets to himself, which I'm sure they will be eager to do. The FBI has put in an extradition request to Bahamas for questioning. Note that questioning is different from charging. USA does not play with financial markets fraud regardless of who the offender is. Their whole financial system depends on it.

Similar scheme was executed by Do Kwon with Luna in Singapore which collapsed in March or so, and till date, Do Kwon has not been charged by Singapore authorities because there is little legal framework to do so.

So everything you typed only lets me know what your information sources and social media algorithms are leading you to, which is why I say you are on the borderline. A simple counterargument to the fallacy you typed is that FTX co CEO is equally a major Republican donor and has not been charged either. Any charging will be done after accounting investigations and audit trails, just like any other financial investigation, not because your misinformation sources tell you "he is at a stalemate"

All these plenty of things you typed yet you didn't refute anything Kkins25 said. SBF stole money, He donated to the government in power.

it is free speech you guys were talking about.

no one ask you to Do voltron

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Mintum: 7:34am On Nov 19, 2022
IjeBos:


Yeah, she should have spent more time learning how governments work. The House is 1/2 of that purse, the Senate is the other. No such bill would pass the Senate. And to defund the Special Prosecutor they would most likely have to defund the whole Justice department. Good Luck with that.
And why can't they defund the entire Justice department? If the only thing they are useful for is going after the the president and his party's political opponents, then they have to be checked. What Biden and his DOJ are doing is exactly what you expect in third world countries, some third world countries don't even do that anymore. There needs to be checks and balances in government, if the Executive arm starts behaving like third world dictators then it's the duty of the legislative and Judicial arms to put them in check.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Mintum: 7:53am On Nov 19, 2022
IjeBos:


1.) I've been in the US since I was 5. Studied diverse subject matter (from Huminites to Astro Physics) at excellent schools. And there is just so much I'm still understanding about the US History, law and culture. You haven't been to the US, I assume haven't formally studied its histroy, don't have an inkling about it's laws and don't understand the culture fully, yet are parroting sites from people who probably wouldn't let you (I assume you're a Black Man) date their daughter. Make that make sense.

2.) You live in Nigeria, in the midst of Economic(changed Dollar at 900 two weeks ago) and Security turmoil and yet you're investing so much time/energy posting about the US, a country you've never been to? Make that make sense to me.
Is this another Asiwere SonofLincoln/Abbeybailey in the building? What is all this rubbish of I've been in the US since 5? And so what? You are on a Nigerian platform and on a thread specifically opened for Nigerians interested in foreign politics to discuss it and yet you are whining about Nigerians discussing foreign politics. Is that not very stupid of you? If you don't want to see Nigerians discussing foreign politics then get the hell off Nairaland and go to a non Nigerian forum.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Mintum: 7:58am On Nov 19, 2022
benalvino3:


grin grin grin grin grin

The Lice have spoken just like the Oldman still trying to find his way to lagos to visit his Mother
Haaaaa, is SonofLincoln still lost in transit? grin grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Mintum: 8:02am On Nov 19, 2022
Obrigardo:
A War crimes prosecutor in the Hague is going to be responsible for an indictment of Criminal trump.
Justice will come at last and criminal trump will go to jail. Thank God.
Lol, we have heard this many times, make sure you get him this time oh

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:02am On Nov 19, 2022
Mintum:

Haaaaa, is SonofLincoln still lost in transit? grin grin grin grin

he is o. the old cargo took a cheap flight same time last year to come to visit his mother... till today he is still making the journey. Never book a 2 dollar flight grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Mintum: 8:05am On Nov 19, 2022
benalvino3:


he is o. the old cargo took a cheap flight same time last year to come to visit his mother... till today he is still making the journey. Never book a 2 dollar flight grin
Lmao grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by adamusuleiman11: 8:10am On Nov 19, 2022
Kemi of UK meets Wale of USA.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 8:28am On Nov 19, 2022
benalvino3:


All these plenty of things you typed yet you didn't refute anything Kkins25 said. SBF stole money, He donated to the government in power.

it is free speech you guys were talking about.

no one ask you to Do voltron

Bolded is not established

What is established at this stage is he overleveraged

When bolded is established, he would be charged

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale2: 8:58am On Nov 19, 2022
adamusuleiman11:
Kemi of UK meets Wale of USA.
Nice picture of these two..
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:05am On Nov 19, 2022
https://twitter.com/i/status/1593455997821267968


Some overlords need to use Climate change to steer us in the right direction.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:22am On Nov 19, 2022
Ibime:


Bolded is not established

What is established at this stage is he overleveraged

When bolded is established, he would be charged

It is established, you are not informed. He uses the Customer deposits and trades without their consent... he even loaned out their money.
Customer Deposit, he sends the money to alameda for trading without their consent in Violation of FTX own guidelines.

The Guy is a con artist who uses Media and charity to build credibility as well as Buying colluding with Politicians.

Caroline his appointed CEO Alameda research has no experience or pedigree to hold such an important role in the company.
the company has no accountant
no board of directors
they don't even have any money management system.

He Founded FTX manufactures the FTT token which he uses.
Most of Alameda 14billion of assets as of june was made up of FTT issued by FTX. He created a Coin, artificially attributed values to it and use it as colatetal to fund his projects.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibeme: 9:32am On Nov 19, 2022
benalvino3:


It is established, you are not informed. He uses the Customer deposits and trades without their consent... he even loaned out their money.
Customer Deposit, he sends the money to alameda for trading without their consent in Violation of FTX own guidelines.

The Guy is a con artist who uses Media and charity to build credibility as well as Buying colluding with Politicians.

Caroline his appointed CEO Alameda research has no experience or pedigree to hold such an important role in the company.
the company has no accountant
no board of directors
they don't even have any money management system.

He Founded FTE manufactures the FTT token.

All the above is true, do you think your bank does not trade with your deposits or loan them out?

Wait, let the authorities gather evidence against him that will stick properly, none of the above is going to put him away. They need to find illegality that will put him away for a long time, not poor ethics, poor leadership or poor capitalisation/money management.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:56am On Nov 19, 2022
Ibeme:


All the above is true, do you think your bank does not trade with your deposits or loan them out?

Wait, let the authorities gather evidence against him that will stick properly, none of the above is going to put him away. They need to find illegality that will put him away for a long time, not poor ethics, poor leadership or poor capitalisation/money management.

They are not a bank which we all know how they operate.

the Keyword here is consent.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:01am On Nov 19, 2022
Ibeme:


All the above is true, do you think your bank does not trade with your deposits or loan them out?

Wait, let the authorities gather evidence against him that will stick properly, none of the above is going to put him away. They need to find illegality that will put him away for a long time, not poor ethics, poor leadership or poor capitalisation/money management.

Guy sent money 40m to democrats.
My bank deposits are available in a few minutes

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Havertz10: 1:26pm On Nov 19, 2022
IjeBos:


My hypothesis has been, Trump appeals to people who are scared of losing power. White Males etc. They are scared of losing Power to minorities and women. I think that is where my dad fits in. He's not white but a successful man. And so he enjoys the power the social construct of the past, esp. Nigeria's past affords him. He sees the loss of power from his own selfish vantage point and wants to cling on to it esp. when it comes to women. Look at all the misogyny and sexism on this board. It all stems from the believe that women are not equal to men or men are divinely superior. That is what my dad believes. He's not shy about telling his children or his wife that he is our Lord and we should obey him. lol. There's also the fact that he got his. And doesn't want anyone to displace that. What's sad and frustrating is that the Republican policies he advocates , if successful would directly harm him. He has a very very good pension (I think it was 95% of his salary when he retired) and his salary was very good. And so it's amazing watching him cheer on Republicans as they talk about scaling back pensions or scaling back Medicare, which he is on as well.
Our parents like that, it’s an archaic social norm that our generation would do away with.

Most people on Nairaland don’t know shit, ideally a woman wants to be affectionate, it’s their nature, we men abused that by turning them into useful assets, thankfully a significant proportion of women are getting educated, becoming more self aware and assertive, things will improve, ignore those people, they will adapt, they don’t have a choice

At the end of the day, if a woman loves you, she would easily afford you the same respect and attention, you don’t need a society norm to force her to give you that.

I don’t know how old your dad is but the measures that republicans are proposing doesn’t completely eliminate social welfare broadly, they just want to limit the number of users.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:59pm On Nov 19, 2022
Havertz10:
Our parents like that, it’s an archaic social norm that our generation would do away with.

Most people on Nairaland don’t know shit, ideally a woman wants to be affectionate, it’s their nature, we men abused that by turning them into useful assets, thankfully a significant proportion of women are getting educated, becoming more self aware and assertive, things will improve, ignore those people, they will adapt, they don’t have a choice

At the end of the day, if a woman loves you, she would easily afford you the same respect and attention, you don’t need a society norm to force her to give you that.

I don’t know how old your dad is but the measures that republicans are proposing doesn’t completely eliminate social welfare broadly, they just want to limit the number of users.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:26pm On Nov 19, 2022
Mintum:

Is this another Asiwere SonofLincoln/Abbeybailey in the building? What is all this rubbish of I've been in the US since 5? And so what? You are on a Nigerian platform and on a thread specifically opened for Nigerians interested in foreign politics to discuss it and yet you are whining about Nigerians discussing foreign politics. Is that not very stupid of you? If you don't want to see Nigerians discussing foreign politics then get the hell off Nairaland and go to a non Nigerian forum.

I don't live in Nigeria and spend just weeks there when I do visit. So, I come here for news and insight. I don't argue or forcefully engage on Nigerian politics/culture etc. Because I know I don't have the base of understanding or information to even argue rationally. So, I listen, learn and try to get informed. Same should be true vis-a-vis those in this topic. I never argued against discussing the US or having opinions on it. My comment was more to two posters on this board who want to dominate this thread with mis-truths, alternate facts and propaganda, all while leaving the impression that they have a greater base of understanding of the US all the while never having set foot in the US or really studied it. So instead of learning and discussing based on a common set of facts, we are here arguing basic US facts of History, Law and Government. If you enjoy that, carry on.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:32pm On Nov 19, 2022
Havertz10:
Our parents like that, it’s an archaic social norm that our generation would do away with.

Most people on Nairaland don’t know shit, ideally a woman wants to be affectionate, it’s their nature, we men abused that by turning them into useful assets, thankfully a significant proportion of women are getting educated, becoming more self aware and assertive, things will improve, ignore those people, they will adapt, they don’t have a choice

At the end of the day, if a woman loves you, she would easily afford you the same respect and attention, you don’t need a society norm to force her to give you that.

I don’t know how old your dad is but the measures that republicans are proposing doesn’t completely eliminate social welfare broadly, they just want to limit the number of users.

Good post. The Republican proposals would have reduced pensions or eliminated them esp for people getting like 95% like my dad. There was a big push maybe 4 years ago (don't quote me on the exact time frame). They were basically trying to end the social contract of I believe the 60's which propelled a lot of people into the middle class.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 2:37pm On Nov 19, 2022
Havertz10:
Our parents like that, it’s an archaic social norm that our generation would do away with.

Most people on Nairaland don’t know shit, ideally a woman wants to be affectionate, it’s their nature, we men abused that by turning them into useful assets, thankfully a significant proportion of women are getting educated, becoming more self aware and assertive, things will improve, ignore those people, they will adapt, they don’t have a choice

At the end of the day, if a woman loves you, she would easily afford you the same respect and attention, you don’t need a society norm to force her to give you that.

I don’t know how old your dad is but the measures that republicans are proposing doesn’t completely eliminate social welfare broadly, they just want to limit the number of users.

Its more about Republicans cultivating misogyny for votes, right now you find people who will basically vote Republicans because they tell them women are supposed to be in the kitchen, people like Matt Gaetz make open misogyny tweets, there's a reason all these red pillers are always leaning R.

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