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Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:50pm On Nov 19, 2022 |
elated177:Only one of the three is the TRUE Church. The one's bought with the Blood of the LAMB of God. The other two are human usage of the word church |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:52pm On Nov 19, 2022 |
elated177:You probably have a different thing in mind. I just quoted scriptures! |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by Kobojunkie: 12:54am On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ:Considering Jesus Christ informed His followers that the gates of Hell will not prevail against His Church, I believe that means that His Church instead consists of those who enter into the Kingdom of God through the Narrow gate which leads to True Life as opposed to those who enter into the Kingdom of God through the Broad gate which leads to destruction- the Gate of Hell. |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by Lighthouse50: 5:12am On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ:Are these sets of people chosen by GOD Alone or we have been given the power to convert men. Reason is REV 13 VS 8 Says that EVERYONE WILL WORSHIP THE BEAST EXCEPT THOSE WHOSE NAMES HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH WOULD BE SAVED. |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 7:14am On Nov 20, 2022 |
Lighthouse50:The TRUE church of Christ is ANYONE who has come to Christ for his Salvation and thus has been bought by Christ with His blood on the Cross. Even though they came to Christ by God's power of foreknowledge of what YOU/THEY will DO with Christ's Gift (not predestination,) God foreknew them . By this reason your name is either in in or not in the book of life. 1Pet 1:2: "You who are chosen and foreknown by God the Father. You have been sanctified by the Spirit to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with his blood. Grace and peace be greatly increased to you." |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 7:17am On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:Only this 1. The People saved by Christ: the people whose name are in the Lamb's book of life. Is the TRUE body of the Messiah. Any other thing called "church" is NOT! |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 9:38am On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ: So, you agree with me that no worshipper of Satan or the demons is part of the Body of the Messiah, his Ekklesia? |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 9:44am On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ: TenQ, didn't you twist the parable of the sower here. Do you believe that it is place of the messenger to convert his hearer? Isn't that the role of the Set-apart Spirit? |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 9:45am On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ: Go through your own assertions and you will see you how you manipulate Scriptures. |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by Lighthouse50: 9:47am On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ:Thanks 1 Like |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 9:47am On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ: Do you agree with me that simply because they call whatever it is they call church doesn't mean it is the Body of the Messiah? |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 9:55am On Nov 20, 2022 |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:05am On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:How many times do you want me to repeat the same thing. You seem poised for an argument |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:06am On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:Doesn't the scripture explain itself? I didn't even put a comment of my own |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:07am On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:Explain the parable of the wheat and tares! |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:08am On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:Did I say anything of such ?? |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:55am On Nov 20, 2022 |
Lighthouse50:No human being has the power to convert another man. The best we can to is to PREACH and if our message is accepted to followup through TEACHING and DISCIPLING! Conversion is done by the Holy Spirit to those who hearken to the message of the Gospel |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 10:57am On Nov 20, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Yes! The people SAVED by Christ Alone are the church |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by Kobojunkie: 12:33pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ:I am afraid even this is also not true. The bought refers to those ransomed/redeemed from God's Old Covenant Law of Moses and they can be none other than the believers who are of Jewish decent. The debt they owed to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses was paid off by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross as a result of the purchase hence the reason they are refered to as the Bought/redeemed/ransomed in scripture. And yes, much of the Epistles were directed at an audience of primarily Jewish believers. |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by Lighthouse50: 4:09pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
For once, lets us try to calm and see others point of view which might be of help to our old views of a topic 1 Like |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 5:48pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 5:49pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 5:51pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ: I am glad we are on the same page on this. 1 Like |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 7:42pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:Why do you feign something different. Jesus said, "let them grow together!" Until the harvest! Then there'll be a separation |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 8:41pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ: I am not feigning anything, TenQ. Show me where Yahushua the Messiah said that both the wheat and the weed (his servants and the servants of Satan) should grow together in his "Church". That is all. |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 9:01pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:Matthew 13:24 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said to him, Sir, did not you sow good seed in your field? from where then has it tares? He said to them, An enemy has done this. The servants said to him, Will you then that we go and gather them up? But he said, No; lest while you gather up the tares, you root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather you together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Goodnight! 1 Like |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by xproducer: 10:31pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
Lighthouse50: ++++++++ Only GOD truly knows them that are His by His grace... 2 Timothy 2:19 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17 "For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." - Isaiah 55:10-11 1 Like |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 11:16pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
TenQ: Grow together where? In his Body - his Ekklesia? |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by TenQ: 11:50pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
elated177:On your head 1 Like |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by elated177: 11:30am On Nov 21, 2022 |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by sonmvayina(m): 12:17pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Saved from what? |
Re: Has Online Preaching Or Arguments Helped Anyone To Get Saved? by KnownUnknown: 12:26pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Yahweh and the rest of the monsters under their beds. |
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