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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TouchOfSpice(m): 8:26pm On Nov 25, 2022
Yeah I think I can relate to some extent.

Jobs in the UK might make you feel like sey village people follow you come .

First 5 weeks in the UK was trying for me , despite the naija expectation I had that I will get a job immediately I arrive in the UK. Countless calls and interviews, even to some reaching final stage with their CTO na still silence later.

But when the time comes, I was opportuned by Gods grace to get an offer immediately after the last interview. Ever since na me dey ignore interview invite and postpone , surprisingly they will wait till any date you reschedule to. (This you can't try with my naija HR)

To cut the long story short, when the time comes , the same CV / your interview format you have been using will now start yielding offers like sey you do jazz.

As someone said above, never emphasize too much on visa sponsorship during the call /interview when you get the offer you can lay it on table and they will most likely oblige you. I did not asked for sponsorship during my interview.

In my present job the Head of HR is already asking me that am I willing to to be considered for sponsorship after my probation period. I am still sceptical simply because I know I am considering a position in Manchester metropolitan with 30% salary increase.

But it's sweet to work with the White o. They work smart but PLAY hard. Imagine having dinner/hangout event every 2 Thursdays of the month . There is even beer and drinks in the fridge to pop when you feel stressed. This I can never imagine in my naija.

Don't give up. Your hustle go click .

Cheers!!

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 9:16pm On Nov 25, 2022
hustla:



How? Someone on student visa has few few options though

I doubt it would make sense to finish the interview process and then get rejected at the end when it comes up
Most companies would rather go for someone without that extra sponsorship baggage. Trust me, if you’ve gone through all the stages and they actually like you, then you can negotiate that as a part of the deal because some of these companies would rather not go through the whole hiring process again especially if they actually offer sponsorship and they really need someone to fill out that role OR show the value you bring and post probation, request for sponsorship. Some get lucky with a few companies who are open about offering sponsorship right away. But a lot of companies do not outrightly offer, so you’ll end up losing a lot of good opportunities if you are too eager to mention that you are on a student visa or that you need sponsorship.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 9:19pm On Nov 25, 2022
TouchOfSpice:
Yeah I think I can relate to some extent.

Jobs in the UK might make you feel like sey village people follow you come .

First 5 weeks in the UK was trying for me , despite the naija expectation I had that I will get a job immediately I arrive in the UK. Countless calls and interviews, even to some reaching final stage with their CTO na still silence later.

But when the time comes, I was opportuned by Gods grace to get an offer immediately after the last interview. Ever since na me dey ignore interview invite and postpone , surprisingly they will wait till any date you reschedule to. (This you can't try with my naija HR)

To cut the long story short, when the time comes , the same CV / your interview format you have been using will now start yielding offers like sey you do jazz.

As someone said above, never emphasize too much on visa sponsorship during the call /interview when you get the offer you can lay it on table and they will most likely oblige you. I did not asked for sponsorship during my interview.

In my present job the Head of HR is already asking me that am I willing to to be considered for sponsorship after my probation period. I am still sceptical simply because I know I am considering a position in Manchester metropolitan with 30% salary increase.

But it's sweet to work with the White o. They work smart but PLAY hard. Imagine having dinner/hangout event every 2 Thursdays of the month . There is even beer and drinks in the fridge to pop when you feel stressed. This I can never imagine in my naija.

Don't give up. Your hustle go click .

Cheers!!



Exactly! That’s the thing, with many No’s will come that one yes or even multiple yeses. Na you sef go dey reject them.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 9:45pm On Nov 25, 2022
Yea I actually got one as a replacement to my old Redmi Note 5 device and its super smooth but go with your choice though cheesy


AgentXxx:
Thanks for this, I have gone ahead to purchase it , seems really cool for the price .
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 10:05pm On Nov 25, 2022
lightnlife:
Absolutely.

I'm interested in reading your serial job change story. grin

I'd like to think I'm a serial job changer as well. An employer once saw my CV and called me "a rolling stone" during the interview. He said he knew I'd leave them soon. Three months down the line I left. cool

Exploring new territories and roles is always exciting.



3 months!! Baba!
So will you put that short stint on your CV?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 10:32pm On Nov 25, 2022
hustla:



How? Someone on student visa has few few options though

I doubt it would make sense to finish the interview process and then get rejected at the end when it comes up
Nope.

You should make them want you enough to then agree to sponsor. And you can only get that opportunity during interview.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Phil46: 11:21pm On Nov 25, 2022
Hello,

Please, can I book Egyptair directly on their website? Do they accept naira cards for payment or have a Nigerian account for transfer?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:29pm On Nov 25, 2022
mimilyrics:
Really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
I changed jobs 3ce last year within the NHS with the 1st job starting in January and the 4th one in December - the 1st 3 were with the same Trust and department at 3 different bands while the 4th was with a different one at 1 band lower. Got 2 other offers and about 9 interview invites within the same week that I got the offer from the new Trust.

My manager at the new Trust told me that she didn't see me in the role after the 1st year because she felt that with my skills, I'd either be aiming higher or getting headhunted for other roles. By March this year (3 months at the new Trust), I had an unconditional offer 2 bands up from my previous Trust. At the same time, I also had another offer from my current Trust but in a different department. My current manager and I have discussed my prospects for other roles and I'm currently exploring training and 7.5-14-hour secondment opportunities in different departments with my manager's approval.

Once you know what you want, map out a plan for it. My manager knew all about my moves and was quite supportive but not all managers will be like that so you need to weigh your options on keeping or not keeping your manager in the loop.
You don't need an excuse to leave a job but ensure that you don't burn your bridges as you might need to drive over them again. I'd also say that you need to weigh your options vis-a-vis work visa sponsorship. If you go for a work-visa sponsorship, you might not be able to change jobs as many times as you want except you go for a scale-up visa.

I'm liking this. This is a strategy I recently decided to adopt - I mean the job changing.
I am naturally very "loyal" and also not necessarily motivated by money, I have taken pay cuts to be in a role that I prefered... If I enjoy my work and I like the culture and I'm respected, then I can stay put for a long while in one company.

Recently I got a new manager at work and the dude who at the point knew little about the work/product started questioning my work and made some very unjustified disparaging remarks...I was quite shocked. I always put in my best and never in my whole life has my output been unsatisfactory. I just imagined that this human can wake up and give me a bad performance review and I'll be asked to leave., this is how they will stain my white .. undecided

That weekend, I edited my CV (and kept updating/tweaking it almost weekly ) and started some courses I had been procrastinating. Within a month I had a number of interviews scheduled and accepted an offer (Lesson here for me is that once you have that UK experience you lacked initially, you will become more appealing in the market, so for those saying sponsorship limits you to one employer...I say only if you let it)

Also I quietly quit - I never take my laptop home again....I used to come in up to 30mins before official time and stay late to finish up sometimes....now I walk in like other ppl by 9 or 9.15 sef and 4.50pm I pack my bag...no time tongue
I have never called in sick...I plan to be sick next week or upper, afterall everyone is coughing amd sneezing lipsrsealed

I realised that I achieved a lot in 6 weeks because I was angry, now I want that to be my default status - always "angry" and looking for the next best thing and putting needs first.

If I may ask, why did you move to a lower band?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 11:34pm On Nov 25, 2022
mizGene:

Nope.

You should make them want you enough to then agree to sponsor. And you can only get that opportunity during interview.


Nawa. Plenty wahala for this Waka
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 11:35pm On Nov 25, 2022
cheesy

mizGene:


I'm liking this. This is a strategy I recently decided to adopt - I mean the job changing.
I am naturally very "loyal" and also not necessarily motivated by money, I have taken pay cuts to be in a role that I prefered... If I enjoy my work and I like the culture and I'm respected, then I can stay put for a long while in one company.

Recently I got a new manager at work and the dude who at the point knew little about the work/product started questioning my work and made some very unjustified disparaging remarks...I was quite shocked. I always put in my best and never in my whole life has my output been unsatisfactory. I just imagined that this human can wake up and give me a bad performance review and I'll be asked to leave., this is how they will stain my white .. undecided

That weekend, I edited my CV (and kept updating/tweaking it almost weekly ) and started some courses I had been procrastinating. Within a month I had a number of interviews scheduled and accepted an offer (Lesson here for me is that once you have that UK experience you lacked initially, you will become more appealing in the market, so for those saying sponsorship limits you to one employer...I say only if you let it)

Also I quietly quit - I never take my laptop home again....I used to come in up to 30mins before official time and stay late to finish up sometimes....now I walk in like other ppl by 9 or 9.15 sef and 4.50pm I pack my bag...no time tongue
I have never called in sick...I plan to be sick next week or upper, afterall everyone is coughing amd sneezing lipsrsealed

I realised that I achieved a lot in 6 weeks because I was angry, now I want that to be my default status - always "angry" and looking for the next best thing and putting needs first.

If I may ask, why did you move to a lower band?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 11:35pm On Nov 25, 2022
Amarathripple0:

Most companies would rather go for someone without that extra sponsorship baggage. .


True smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 11:38pm On Nov 25, 2022
Are you suggesting not to mention your visa type unless they asked? shocked


Amarathripple0:

Most companies would rather go for someone without that extra sponsorship baggage. Trust me, if you’ve gone through all the stages and they actually like you, then you can negotiate that as a part of the deal because some of these companies would rather not go through the whole hiring process again especially if they actually offer sponsorship and they really need someone to fill out that role OR show the value you bring and post probation, request for sponsorship. Some get lucky with a few companies who are open about offering sponsorship right away. But a lot of companies do not outrightly offer, so you’ll end up losing a lot of good opportunities if you are too eager to mention that you are on a student visa or that you need sponsorship.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:39pm On Nov 25, 2022
hustla:



Nawa. Plenty wahala for this Waka

No wahala there o.

If they don't ask, don't mention until late stage or offer even.
While it may be disappointing for you if they then refuse, interview experiences are needed to hone your skills for future interviews, so it isn't a complete waste of time.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by jadepinkett(f): 11:51pm On Nov 25, 2022
mizGene:


No wahala there o.

If they don't ask, don't mention until late stage or offer even.
While it may be disappointing for you if they then refuse, interview experiences are needed to hone your skills for future interviews, so it isn't a complete waste of time.

This makes sense. I'd change my strategy. I'm already working with a promise to sponsor. I am exploring the market to see if I can get a better offer hence why I put it up front. Chai... the number of recruiters I have chased away by mentioning it. Have to hone back my interview skills, so last last that could still count as a benefit

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:54pm On Nov 25, 2022
bigtt76:
Are you suggesting not to mention your visa type unless they asked? shocked


Yup, don’t ask, don’t tell. if they ask, say you have a visa that allows you to work, if they ask what type of visa, just say Tier 4. All the extra shalaye of student visa and needing sponsorship isn’t necessary.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by SPDAZZY(f): 1:23am On Nov 26, 2022
Gemma11:


I use an Iphone app

But you can access this one here.

https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php

Thanks a lot
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by lightnlife: 2:25am On Nov 26, 2022
Most "professional rolling stones" change jobs because of boredom. They're explorers, creative and innovative.

The best thing for them is to become a consultant, working on different projects per time instead of having a fixed 9-5 job all year. That way, they maintain freshness and dynamism in professional practice.

Given that the UK labour market steeped in favour of the employee, you can always negotiate your way around.

Objectively analyze your options and go with the best. You can move around within the NHS.


corpershun:

I am equally interested too.
Mine is I get bored easily doing same routine job. Currently in the NHS as project support but I am bored but skeptical of how il be seen bouncing from job to job. Good thing I can use the expiration of my student visa as an excuse to leave.
But how do you communicate this to employers. I would love to know

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by lightnlife: 2:38am On Nov 26, 2022
grin Are you in or out of the UK?

If you're in already, You might want to tone down on the request for sponsorship at the interview stage.

Secure the job first, deliver value and negotiate to your advantage.

Some jobs are quite clear on giving sponsorship, for those you can raise it with them at the interview stage. For those that do not state so, you can let it slide at the interview stage.


jadepinkett:


Make una show us way ooo... despite many recruiters reaching out, the moment I mention sponsorship, na so that trail go cold. I don tire embarassed
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by lightnlife: 2:44am On Nov 26, 2022
Creatives no dey use CV, na portfolio we dey use.

It's the experience, impact and result that counts not the duration.

Even for CV, you necessary don't have to put all your career touch points on the paper just the most valuable or applicable to the role in question.

*Maba OR Bama.

mizGene:

3 months!! Baba!
So will you put that short stint on your CV?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Santa2: 3:54am On Nov 26, 2022
Amarathripple0:

Most companies would rather go for someone without that extra sponsorship baggage. Trust me, if you’ve gone through all the stages and they actually like you, then you can negotiate that as a part of the deal because some of these companies would rather not go through the whole hiring process again especially if they actually offer sponsorship and they really need someone to fill out that role OR show the value you bring and post probation, request for sponsorship. Some get lucky with a few companies who are open about offering sponsorship right away. But a lot of companies do not outrightly offer, so you’ll end up losing a lot of good opportunities if you are too eager to mention that you are on a student visa or that you need sponsorship.

Seconded..I know several people that eventually got sponsored after working for a bit and showing value. You can choose what strategy works for you but I prefer the later as it has been proven to work over and over again(except its NHS). Also you can get a very good job that doesnt sponsor, work for a bit and pivot to one that does. It gets easier changing jobs after your first 'professional' role.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:13am On Nov 26, 2022
lightnlife:
grin Are you in or out of the UK?

If you're in already, You might want to tone down on the request for sponsorship at the interview stage.

Secure the job first, deliver value and negotiate to your advantage.

Some jobs are quite clear on giving sponsorship, for those you can raise it with them at the interview stage. For those that do not state so, you can let it slide at the interview stage.



I'm still wondering how you hope to secure and start the job with a student visa
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 10:48am On Nov 26, 2022
hustla:


I'm still wondering how you hope to secure and start the job with a student visa


I think you are viewing a student visa as a major blocker when in fact some companies like Barclays, JP Morgan & Chase, IBM, PwC etc offer flexible working and job sharing options. You could even secure a job as a student and work with the company on a part time basis then transition to full time after Uni like the girl in the video below did. Lastly, and the most obvious; you can get a full time job when you are actually done with Uni. As for securing the job, just sell the heck out of yourself, be confident, don't come off as desperate and do some research about the company, let your STAR stories align with what they do and their values.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBf3zLihul8&t=17s

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 10:50am On Nov 26, 2022
Just state Tier 4 visa or simply specify - Right to Work in the UK (Sharecode - Bleep-Bleep-XX) many won't bother to probe further seeing this as they don't know much about it compared to when they see Student Visa in your CV ...awon werey. They'd be complaining no skills or talent to employ but we de here de beg them for jobs dem never de mind us angry

hustla:


I'm still wondering how you hope to secure and start the job with a student visa


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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 10:51am On Nov 26, 2022
Makes sense. From now I will just mention *Right to work with my share code* finish. cheesy


Amarathripple0:

Yup, don’t ask, don’t tell. if they ask, say you have a visa that allows you to work, if they ask what type of visa, just say Tier 4. All the extra shalaye of student visa and needing sponsorship isn’t necessary.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:53am On Nov 26, 2022
bigtt76:
Just state Tier 4 visa or simply specify - Right to Work in the UK (Sharecode - Bleep-Bleep-XX) many won't bother to probe further seeing this as they don't know much about it compared to when they see Student Visa in your CV ...awon werey. They'd be complaining no skills or talent to employ but we de here de beg them for jobs dem never de mind us angry



cheesy

You dey vex oo. Can't blame them Sha
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:53am On Nov 26, 2022
Amarathripple0:

I think you are viewing a student visa as a major blocker when in fact some companies like Barclays, JP Morgan & Chase, IBM, PwC etc offer flexible working and job sharing options. You could even secure a job as a student and work with the company on a part time basis then transition to full time after Uni like the girl in the video below did. Lastly, and the most obvious; you can get a full time job when you are actually done with Uni. As for securing the job, just sell the heck out of yourself, be confident, don't come off as desperate and do some research about the company, let your STAR stories align with what they do and their values.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBf3zLihul8&t=17s


Thanks, I appreciate

I'll go through this video

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:00am On Nov 26, 2022
bigtt76:
Makes sense. From now I will just mention *Right to work with my share code* finish. cheesy


Cool, my go to response is "I have a residents permit that allows me to work". Because a Tier 4 BRP is actually a residents permit.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:02am On Nov 26, 2022
bigtt76:
Makes sense. From now I will just mention *Right to work with my share code* finish. cheesy


I never knew people put info about visa in their CV, I would say don't do it..
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:13am On Nov 26, 2022
mizGene:

I never knew people put info about visa in their CV, I would say don't do it..
Lol that’s automatic disqualification. Also @ bigtt76 , Never give them your share code. Unless it’s asked for at the due diligence stage.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:31am On Nov 26, 2022
Amarathripple0:

Lol that’s automatic disqualification. Also @ bigtt76 , Never give them your share code. Unless it’s asked for at the due diligence stage.

Exactly, it just raises questions unnecessarily and you are likely to get passed over.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Goke7: 11:45am On Nov 26, 2022
bigtt76:
Just state Tier 4 visa or simply specify - Right to Work in the UK (Sharecode - Bleep-Bleep-XX) many won't bother to probe further seeing this as they don't know much about it compared to when they see Student Visa in your CV ...awon werey. They'd be complaining no skills or talent to employ but we de here de beg them for jobs dem never de mind us angry


the thing don tire me, the contradictions are just too boring
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Gourdoinc(m): 11:47am On Nov 26, 2022
Gemma11:


You are correct. My Salary calculator is mistakenly set to 4 week payments not monthly.

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