HisSplendor:


That religion hates truth. The adherents are in gloomy darkness and yet, they love the darkness with all their lives. It really baffles me when I see Muslims defend the Quran vehemently and even throw abuses on you for telling them the truth. Up till now, I can't understand how a sane fellow who is also educated would take such a man as Mohammed or a book as the Quran serous. It baffles me so much.

NNTR:
TenQ, it is interesting that the other day, I was fascinated into digging into Judah and Tamar (i.e. the pretend prostitute)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NairaLTQ:
Judah was a big hypocrite!

NairaLTQ:
I wonder if women of those days knew about days of ovulation!

NNTR:
With hypocrisy on one side, then zoom on to the oldest profession in the world and widowed Judah seeking women of easy virtue, to bust his nuts with

Tamar knew about days of ovulation hence the reason why she demanded for Judah's ring and staff (i.e. that was her 'health' insurance protection from the imminent backlash)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NairaLTQ:
Both Er and Onan must have been wicked BUT

NairaLTQ:
See how the death of Er and Onan were blamed on Tamar.

NNTR:
Absolutely right that Er and Onan must have been wicked. Yes, they both had self-centeredly twisted minds (i.e. thinking of themselves only)

Matthew 1:1-3
'1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,'

One of the morals of the narrative, is to guard against spurious reasoning(s) like the nonsense here, that Tamar is the cause of Er and Onan's deaths, when clearly Er and Onan deaths were of their own doing (i.e. they both refused to do the right thing, which is bust their nuts inside Tamar)

Again I reiterate, had been fascinated by Judah and Tamar (i.e. the pretend prostitute). Judah, Tamar (i.e. the pretend prostitute) and two for real, prostitutes, are prominent in Jesus' genealogy. I suspect, this is likely, maybe why Mohamed (PBUH) favourably looked at the oldest profession in the world and so had the thumbs up at women of easy virtue, to bust nuts with.

When trying to wrap my head over the patriarch, Judah's entanglement with prostitution, (i.e. when trying to get the sense of it all), came to the conclusion that, Judah, being a widow, is absolved of any wrong doing.

Meaning that, being a widow, Judah engaging in sexual activity with a prostitute, pretend or not pretend prostitute, for payment was not held against him and on top of it all, Judah still had his name make it, safely intact, into the genealogy of our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world

cc TenQ

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NairaLTQ:
The highlighted is the difficult part of the story.

NairaLTQ:
The story seem to be told WITHOUT any any theological purpose.

NairaLTQ:
Judah was not condemned officially even though he acknowledged his hypocrisy.

NairaLTQ:
The book of judges was at a time when because Israel had no Priest not King, EVERYONE did what was best in their own eyes.

NairaLTQ:
Even for Er and Onan, were they truely killed by God or was it the impression of the author of Judges?

Check out:
Judg 20:6:
"And I took my concubine, and cut her in pieces, and sent her throughout all the country of the inheritance of Israel: for they have committed lewdness and folly in Israel."

LegalWolf:
Like I told you, the potential thief would do it again. Welcome to the club MrCodeSolo



cc: Potential Thief TenQ

NNTR:
Nothing in the narrative has a difficult part. The focus of the narrative was about the three Rs, which are:
1. Do the Right thing
2. Do the Right thing at the Right time
3. Do the Right thing, at the Right time and remain standing on God's Right Hand Side

Tamar, repeatedly was denied her right(s). On so many occasions in the narrative, doing the Right thing(s), doing the Right thing at the Right time, doing the Right thing at the Right time, at same time, remain, in right standing with God when doing all, were not concurrently done.

Er, Onan and Judah were complicit in those three areas, causing Tamar to go to extreme length to have her rights accorded her.

Judah, was a widow, so technically was not wasnt in the wrong, seeking women of easy virtue, to bust his nuts with

The moral of the story is:
1. Dont be wicked (i.e. dont be like wick, become twisted. Er had a twisted mind)
2. Avoid miscarriage of justice (i.e. Onan copied Er. Onan milked the cow and had no intention ever of buying the cow)
3. Address allegations of miscarriage of justice (i.e. Judah eventually owned up to his hypocrisy and admitted how his dereliction of duty put Tamar's life in jeopardy)

Judah is not condemned for patronising prostitution, but he sure is found wanting in not upholding, ensuring, enforcing the Levirate law.

Judah knew that the right and best thing to do was for Onan to know Tamar.

It is because Judah wasnt able to man up, and instil in Selah, his third son, to do the right thing (i.e. not follow in the footsteps of his two demised elder brothers) that he shied from as promised Tamar, let Selah know her

Numbers 23:19
'God is not a human male— He doesn't lie, nor is He a human being
— He never vacillates. Once He speaks up, He's going to act, isn't He?
Once He makes a promise, He'll fulfill it, won't He?'

God is not a man that he will lie. Er and Onan died.

The former, Er, died because was only after, satisfying his sexual gratification thirst only, while the latter, Onan, died because, he too was only after quenching his sexual gratification thirst only and was not keen, into giving Tamar, the benefit of having a welfare safety net from post sleeping with her

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Nothing in the narrative has a difficult part. The focus of the narrative was about the three Rs, which are:
1. Do the Right thing
2. Do the Right thing at the Right time
3. Do the Right thing, at the Right time and remain standing on God's Right Hand Side

Tamar, repeatedly was denied her right(s). On so many occasions in the narrative, doing the Right thing(s), doing the Right thing at the Right time, doing the Right thing at the Right time, at same time, remain, in right standing with God when doing all, were not concurrently done.

Er, Onan and Judah were complicit in those three areas, causing Tamar to go to extreme length to have her rights accorded her.

Judah, was a widow, so technically was not wasnt in the wrong, seeking women of easy virtue, to bust his nuts with

The moral of the story is:
1. Dont be wicked (i.e. dont be like wick, become twisted. Er had a twisted mind)
2. Avoid miscarriage of justice (i.e. Onan copied Er. Onan milked the cow and had no intention ever of buying the cow)
3. Address allegations of miscarriage of justice (i.e. Judah eventually owned up to his hypocrisy and admitted how his dereliction of duty put Tamar's life in jeopardy)

Judah is not condemned for patronising prostitution, but he sure is found wanting in not upholding, ensuring, enforcing the Levirate law.

Judah knew that the right and best thing to do was for Onan to know Tamar.

It is because Judah wasnt able to man up, and instil in Selah, his third son, to do the right thing (i.e. not follow in the footsteps of his two demised elder brothers) that he shied from as promised Tamar, let Selah know her

Numbers 23:19
'God is not a human male— He doesn't lie, nor is He a human being
— He never vacillates. Once He speaks up, He's going to act, isn't He?
Once He makes a promise, He'll fulfill it, won't He?'

God is not a man that he will lie. Er and Onan died.

The former, Er, died because was only after, satisfying his sexual gratification thirst only, while the latter, Onan, died because, he too was only after quenching his sexual gratification thirst only and was not keen, into giving Tamar, the benefit of having a welfare safety net from post sleeping with her

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

TenQ:
It seems that Judah was a very bad father.

TenQ:
Non of the sons was worthy of being in the lineage of the Messiah. God bypassed all his normal sons for one he gave birth to through Tamar!

TenQ:

The QUESTIONS FOR MUSLIMS
1. Is Prostitution remotely a moral act that God the Creator should approve for His people?
2. Can Muslims show us if Allah at any time abrogated the law of Mutah?
3. How come Mohammed or any Caliph has the power to Abrogate or Overrule the eternal words of Allah in the Qur'an?
(Is it that Mohammed or the Caliphs knows better than Allah?)
4. If Allah can sanction Prostitution for any reason whatsoever, how can Muslims be sure that he is not aka Satan? (Is this behaviour consistent with the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and David?)

LegalWolf:


LOL! A potential thief asking questions about prostitution.. hehehe nice combo? When are we finishing our unfinished business? Have you found the evidence I asked you to find?

LegalWolf:
LOL! A potential thief asking questions about prostitution.. hehehe nice combo? When are we finishing our unfinished business? Have you found the evidence I asked you to find?

NNTR:
We all would very much appreciate having your kind humble, truthful and generous responses to those four easy, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward TenQ questions. Thank you

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
We all would very much appreciate having your kind humble, truthful and generous responses to those four easy, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward TenQ questions. Thank you

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

TenQ:
LEGALWOLF, Since common sense eludes one who cannot see his own religious book judging him. Here again

Have you found the evidence I asked you to find?

are you prepared to stand by EVERY single word you wrote on this thread, including the screenshots (which I have previously read)?

LegalWolf:
Welcome NNTR .

LegalWolf:
I don't know if my system is showing the correct thing or not,

LegalWolf:
but I suppose this post is originally written by TenQ and not NNTR?

LegalWolf:
Is that correct?

TenQ:

Would he?
LegalWolf is the kind that will know the truth yet stand for LIES and INJUSTICE!

The questions were very simple:

The QUESTIONS FOR LEGALWOLF
1. Is Prostitution remotely a moral act that God the Creator should approve for His people?
2. Can Muslims show us if Allah at any time abrogated the law of Mutah?
3. How come Mohammed or any Caliph has the power to Abrogate or Overrule the eternal words of Allah in the Qur'an?
(Is it that Mohammed or the Caliphs knows better than Allah?)
4. If Allah can sanction Prostitution for any reason whatsoever, how can Muslims be sure that he is not aka Satan? (Is this behaviour consistent with the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and David?)


He would rather AVOID the Question like a plague!

LegalWolf:


I LOVE THIS POTENTIAL THIEF Called TenQ,

You completely did not answer my question. Have you found the evidence I asked you to find?

Now let me even assume that you have valid questions, are you prepared to stand by EVERY single word you wrote on this thread, including the screenshots (which I have previously read)?

NNTR:
I serve same good tidings back to you dearest and held in high esteem LegalWolf

I confidently can wager that your system is showing the correct thing

The evidence in black and white print is clear that the post is unequivocally originally written by NNTR.

TenQ in no way, shape or form is affiliated with NNTR

You're gazillion miles off track

I am certain you dont see those four easy, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward TenQ questions to be questions, to drop as if they are intimidating hot potahtoes

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

LegalWolf:
Welcome NNTR .
I don't know if my system is showing the correct thing or not, but I suppose this post is originally written by TenQ and not NNTR?
Is that correct?

LegalWolf:
I want to assume the underlined, you meant TenQ not you

LegalWolf:
Is that correct?

LegalWolf:
Lol. TenQ questions intimidating? I agree it could be intimidating for those with subpar intellect but not for me. TenQ ? Of all people? A potential Thief ? LOL!

LegalWolf:
If the post is originally written by TenQ as I assume you wanted to say (unless you claim the underlined is correct), don't you think it will make sense if you sit back and watch me and the OP enjoy ourselves? The questions were his not yours while he mentioned me to HIS post not yours... or am I 'gazillion miles off track' in this regard too ?

NNTR:

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I meant what I typed that the above post in that original form was written by NNTR and not TenQ

Yes and without a shadow of doubt

If giving your kind, humble, truthful and generous responses to those four easy, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward TenQ questions dont terrify you, then please share your answers for all to read then now.

Forgive the eagerness and keen interest of wanting to learn from the prompt answers you have from replying to the four easy, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward TenQ questions.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

So are you prepared to answer my questions which will lead you to 'learning' and apparently getting an answer?

LegalWolf:
Let me play with you on this, potential Thief. I have some time to spare! Since you claimed the underlined - that I will avoid the question.

(underlined mine)

It is quite interesting that a person that I have caught lying on countless occassions and even forging a statement on another have the audacity to say that I will stand by lies. Why do I call you potential thief, Mr. TenQ? Have you ever denied that you forged a statement, put it in inverted comma and ascribed it to me despite calling you a potential thief severally If you have denied this, can you point out when on this platform, ehn potential thief TenQ ?

But before going on, do I have your commitment on this?



I will wear the toga of a Shia Ayatollah using their sources to respond to you. This is something I have about 8 years ago. So if you give me your commitment of standing by every word you say, then you can call me Sheikh Ayatollah Modibbo LegalWolf Al-Kwarawiyy That should not be too hard for you, or should it?

LegalWolf:


I LOVE THIS POTENTIAL THIEF Called TenQ,

You completely did not answer my question. Have you found the evidence I asked you to find?

Now let me even assume that you have valid questions, are you prepared to stand by EVERY single word you wrote on this thread, including the screenshots (which I have previously read)?

LegalWolf:
Oh I did not know it was originally written by you.

All I know is that this post that I am responding to was written by TenQ . Not just that, the questions are HIS to ME by virtue of the mention. So please calmly sit your ass down and watch.

Or let me even do it this way, there are apparently more than one way to skin a cat If you have 'eagerness and keen interest of wanting to learn from the prompt answers you have from replying to the four easy, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions , this makes excellent sense.

I will facilitate your learning, that I promise. But I will do this using the Socratic method. So are you prepared to answer my questions which will lead you to 'learning' and apparently getting an answer?

cc: Potential thief TenQ

NNTR:
I have never met a poster so ignorant that I am not ever ready to learn something from. Kk, there is no poster from whom I cannot learn things from, so far the poster doesnt hide from giving honest and sincere answers to questions put at the poster.

I am more than pleased to answer your questions, so far you promise to return in kind when I serve you back questions too, but start first with giving answers to those four TenQ questions please. Which are:

1. Is Prostitution remotely a moral act that God the Creator should approve for His people?

2. Can Muslims show us if Allah at any time abrogated the law of Mutah?

3. How come Mohammed or any Caliph has the power to Abrogate or Overrule the eternal words of Allah in the Qur'an?
(Is it that Mohammed or the Caliphs knows better than Allah?)

4. If Allah can sanction Prostitution for any reason whatsoever, how can Muslims be sure that he is not aka Satan? (Is this behaviour consistent with the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and David?)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

TenQ:

All these just to AVOID having to answer the Questions!?
SMH!

The questions are very simple:

The QUESTIONS FOR LEGALWOLF
1. Is Prostitution remotely a moral act that God the Creator should approve for His people?

2. Can Muslims show us if Allah at any time abrogated the law of Mutah?

3. How come Mohammed or any Caliph has the power to Abrogate or Overrule the eternal words of Allah in the Qur'an?
(Is it that Mohammed or the Caliphs knows better than Allah?)

4. If Allah can sanction Prostitution for any reason whatsoever, how can Muslims be sure that he is not aka Satan? (Is this behaviour consistent with the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and David?)

LegalWolf:


So that you will forge a statement again? Potential Thief