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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by Iamthoney(m): 11:37pm On Dec 03, 2022
JasonScoolari:
We just have to educate Pendu miscreants on the need to see Messi as their Lord and personal saviour.
Alas! A large chunk of them are irredeemable
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by paradigmshift(m): 11:37pm On Dec 03, 2022
sprints1:
messi and dybala cannot play together. Every soul in Argentina knows that
big lie... Both Messi n that fool Martinez can play together? Why no remove Martinez and play dyballa even if it's for 20mins. He's a useless coach. Why e no pay dimaria today? Na just Messi dey carry d squad, d rest trash

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by MrColdsweat: 11:41pm On Dec 03, 2022
blueAgent:


Rubbish analogy.

And in which position is Milner the world best at?
Midfield attack defence?
Yes he can play multi positions, but he is master of none.
The difference is perception. You think football is about goals and dribbles, you focus on the individual. You forget that there are several players who perform their roles effectively for messi to perform. If the centre backs do not progress the ball properly or pass accurately, messi will struggle.

Football is an organisational sport. In an organisation, the versatile member is the most valuable.

James milner is not just the best footballer. He's an embodiment of football because he can sacrifice anything for the team. One minute he's giving an assist, the next minute he's clearing the ball off the line. He played an entire season as a full back. He presently has more champions league assist than modric.

He also has a better penalty record than messi and ronaldo.

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by Lekida: 11:47pm On Dec 03, 2022
cutieBR:
Make them bench am for the next match....
sharp sharp
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by BeauBragnar11: 11:58pm On Dec 03, 2022
MrColdsweat:

The difference is perception. You think football is about goals and dribbles, you focus on the individual. You forget that there are several players who perform their roles effectively for messi to perform. If the centre backs do not progress the ball properly or pass accurately, messi will struggle.

Football is an organisational sport. In an organisation, the versatile member is the most valuable.

James milner is not just the best footballer. He's an embodiment of football because he can sacrifice anything for the team. One minute he's giving an assist, the next minute he's clearing the ball off the line. He played an entire season as a full back. He presently has more champions league assist than modric.

He also has a better penalty record than messi and ronaldo.

Them ask you simple question you dey blab ...

The earlier guy asked that since Milner could play different positions in a pitch, which does he have mastery of

...."Jack of all trades, Master of non" ....

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by cutieBR(f): 12:21am On Dec 04, 2022
I think he favours Lautaro over dybala.
paradigmshift:
favoritism of who? D coach na fool.. dybala never play since d beginning of the world cup
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by officialwriter1: 12:23am On Dec 04, 2022
Great
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by kushme: 12:59am On Dec 04, 2022
sprints1:
messi and dybala cannot play together. Every soul in Argentina knows that

But why?
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by light95: 1:14am On Dec 04, 2022
kushme:


But why?

Because they play the same pattern of football.

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by OJEEMAH(m): 1:29am On Dec 04, 2022
Jokerman:


Ronaldo at 37.
It happened at 37 means nothing……it could have happened at anytime in his career so stop using records he was on course to break before or after now to cover his abysmal performance recently.

If you want me to applaud him at 37, show me his top scorer award, player of the tournament or other recognition that shows he’s been impacting games not records he is/was meant to break at some point in his career.

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by Wilson500: 2:23am On Dec 04, 2022
As e dey sweet us, e dey pain them
As e dey pain them, e dey sweet us grin

Pls Penaldo fan girls should continue crying
Just pray that your Penaldo wins his own match and probably not try to steal a teammate's goal again grin

Messi.......3 goals in 4 matches
Thunder go fire Lutaro Martinez wey deny am assist

Vamos Argentina

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by VanTee20(m): 3:24am On Dec 04, 2022
Goalnaldo:
Who is the unfortunate player that score that own goal. Omo account don wreck

What is cashout?
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by realestate99: 3:51am On Dec 04, 2022
pquaver:
This lautaro Martinez is worst than higuain ooo.. This guy is - 1 ooo why is this coach playing him..
He is just having a bad tournament which the coach understand, he is a vital part of the New Argentine team revolution, I think he was just unlucky Argentina lost the first match which he started and got withdrawn in the second match before Argentina got their goal, which made the coach start Alvarez over him in the third match and today...his problem is psychological, he is still shocked he has lost the starting spot.

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by realestate99: 3:57am On Dec 04, 2022
paradigmshift:
big lie... Both Messi n that fool Martinez can play together? Why no remove Martinez and play dyballa even if it's for 20mins. He's a useless coach. Why e no pay dimaria today? Na just Messi dey carry d squad, d rest trash
Typical Nigeria mentality, throwing insults on stuffs he is shallow about, since the new Argentine coach got appointed in the national team, Only Messi has more goals than Lautaro, 27 to Lautaro 22. He is their main striker, he is just a victim of circumstance due to the Saudi loss, his confidence is shattered at the moment because of Alvarez brilliance and subsequent displacement from the starting spot, he just needs to cool down and maybe he can reclaim is starting spot, even after this game, the coach reminded people of how Lautaro has saved Argentina many times in the past during his press conference.

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by mayor1814: 4:41am On Dec 04, 2022
Sometimes coaches ego always lead to their downfall. Even if the Argentina coach doesn't start Dybala in games, what's preventing him from using Dybala as a super sub or playing him in the last 20 mins or 25 mins?


All those tactic talks scaloni is talking about is rubbish to me it's just ego. What if that Aussie black guy had scored that last chance, will he talk about one rubbish tactic? nonsense.

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by Starz825(m): 5:53am On Dec 04, 2022
Beazysledge:
This argentina side no fit go pass quarter final o
Leave them se....


Messi fans go cry tire against Netherlands grin
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by Starz825(m): 5:55am On Dec 04, 2022
Wilson500:
As e dey sweet us, e dey pain them
As e dey pain them, e dey sweet us grin

Pls Penaldo fan girls should continue crying
Just pray that your Penaldo wins his own match and probably not try to steal a teammate's goal again grin

Messi.......3 goals in 4 matches
Thunder go fire Lutaro Martinez wey deny am assist

Vamos Argentina
The Netherlands

You don hear before cheesy
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by jojothaiv(m): 6:17am On Dec 04, 2022
Argentina will beat Netherlands.
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by phemmyfour: 6:33am On Dec 04, 2022
pquaver:
This lautaro Martinez is worst than higuain ooo.. This guy is - 1 ooo why is this coach playing him..
Higuain parody grin
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by Pope98: 6:41am On Dec 04, 2022
sprints1:
messi and dybala cannot play together. Every soul in Argentina knows that
not really.. Dybala had injury going into the world cup him never really fit.. It's just fitness issue

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by paradigmshift(m): 7:18am On Dec 04, 2022
realestate99:

Typical Nigeria mentality, throwing insults on stuffs he is shallow about, since the new Argentine coach got appointed in the national team, Only Messi has more goals than Lautaro, 27 to Lautaro 22. He is their main striker, he is just a victim of circumstance due to the Saudi loss, his confidence is shattered at the moment because of Alvarez brilliance and subsequent displacement from the starting spot, he just needs to cool down and maybe he can reclaim is starting spot, even after this game, the coach reminded people of how Lautaro has saved Argentina many times in the past during his press conference.
did I insult you?
This is world cup and not friendly matches where they need need to calm down bla bal, lautaro is trash . You saw how wasteful he's yesterday, what if Australia scored, match for never tie wrapper, thanks to Martinez. We are not talking about who has goals bla bla or saved Dem before,, no be past glory be football, we are talking about who can deliver at d moment.. aside Messi, the whole team is just mere, nothing to write home about. Australia that's not even that good na Argentina they struggle with..di maria didn't play yesterday in such a crucial match , I was expecting him to bring in dyballa n remove Martinez or whatsoever he's called . They don't play outside shoot or try their chance individually, everyone is looking for Messi, that's not good... We should face the fact .dt coach is just shaky . Saudi Arabia has come n gone, that not an excuse...

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by realestate99: 7:53am On Dec 04, 2022
paradigmshift:
did I insult you?
This is world cup and not friendly matches where they need need to calm down bla bal, lautaro is trash . You saw how wasteful he's yesterday, what if Australia scored, match for never tie wrapper, thanks to Martinez. We are not talking about who has goals bla bla or saved Dem before,, no be past glory be football, we are talking about who can deliver at d moment.. aside Messi, the whole team is just mere, nothing to write home about. Australia that's not even that good na Argentina they struggle with..di maria didn't play yesterday in such a crucial match , I was expecting him to bring in dyballa n remove Martinez or whatsoever he's called . They don't play outside shoot or try their chance individually, everyone is looking for Messi, that's not good... We should face the fact .dt coach is just shaky . Saudi Arabia has come n gone, that not an excuse...
Don't be fickle minded, yeah I agree he is not currently playing well but there are many quality players in the world cup too that are not playing well currently and that does not mean they are trash, calling a good talent thrash because of few matches is overtly judgemental, is Ronaldo thrash? Because he has not done anything significant @ this current world cup. Players do have off day, off tournaments but that do happen, it does not have any effect on their quality on the long run. Lautaro is a good player no matter what.

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Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by blueAgent(m): 8:31am On Dec 04, 2022
MrColdsweat:

The difference is perception. You think football is about goals and dribbles, you focus on the individual. You forget that there are several players who perform their roles effectively for messi to perform. If the centre backs do not progress the ball properly or pass accurately, messi will struggle.

Football is an organisational sport. In an organisation, the versatile member is the most valuable.

James milner is not just the best footballer. He's an embodiment of football because he can sacrifice anything for the team. One minute he's giving an assist, the next minute he's clearing the ball off the line. He played an entire season as a full back. He presently has more champions league assist than modric.

He also has a better penalty record than messi and ronaldo.

You did not address my point.

I asked you which of the positions is Milner master of?

Last time I checked, he has not played as a goal keeper or winger, nor striker, which means he is still not an all round player as you claim.

He plays multi roles and is master of none.

Messi can play as a false 9,infact he is the best in the World as a false 9, he can play as a 10,8 or as a right winger, in all this ,he comes out as the best in that position. Ronaldo has mastered goal scoring despite been a natural winger.

In the world he is the best poacher or goal soccerer.

Can we claim Milner is the best in the World in left back, central midfield, Centre back?
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by MrColdsweat: 8:40am On Dec 04, 2022
BeauBragnar11:


Them ask you simple question you dey blab ...

The earlier guy asked that since Milner could play different positions in a pitch, which does he have mastery of

...."Jack of all trades, Master of non" ....
Even when i quoted that he has more champions league assist than modric, you still dey ask yeye question. Abeg commot for my mention. I'm not here to spoon feed adults.
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by MrColdsweat: 8:51am On Dec 04, 2022
blueAgent:


You did not address my point.

I asked you which of the positions is Milner master of?

Last time I checked, he has not played as a goal keeper or winger, nor striker, which means he is still not an all round player as you claim.

He plays multi roles and is master of none.

Messi can play as a false 9,infact he is the best in the World as a false 9, he can play as a 10,8 or as a right winger, in all this ,he comes out as the best in that position. Ronaldo has mastered goal scoring despite been a natural winger.

In the world he is the best poacher or goal soccerer.

Can we claim Milner is the best in the World in left back, central midfield, Centre back?

you are the one who tries to rubbish Milner's greatness by restricting him to just one position.
Milner played as a striker for villa. Played as a 7 for man city. Played as a AM, DM, RB, LB AND CB for liverpool.

I ask again. Messi is very good on the ball. But what does he do when he does not have the ball? Does he chase, tackle, block, intercept? Don't say it's not his duty. Defending in modern football starts from the front.

How many kilometres does he cover per game?

Messi can dribble and score. But there are several things milner can do that messi cannot do. Milner is someone who runs the most, cover the most Ground, tackle the most, make several blocks, yet he will have the highest chance creation in that game.
Milner makes both on-the-ball and off-the-ball contribution. Messi is only good on the ball. He's useless without the ball.


Milner is not messi's mate. In an ideal world, milner will have more balon d'or than everyone.
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by tuzle(m): 9:05am On Dec 04, 2022
In Germany vs Spain topic, someone asked why the topic was only on page 3 and Argentina and Portugal matches reaches as far as 15. We can all see the reason here. Almost 5 paged was used in calling out Ronaldo as pendu. Same happens in Portugal topic
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by paradigmshift(m): 9:33am On Dec 04, 2022
realestate99:

Don't be fickle minded, yeah I agree he is not currently playing well but there are many quality players in the world cup too that are not playing well currently and that does not mean they are trash, calling a good talent thrash because of few matches is overtly judgemental, is Ronaldo thrash? Because he has not done anything significant @ this current world cup. Players do have off day, off tournaments but that do happen, it does not have any effect on their quality on the long run. Lautaro is a good player no matter what.
this is knockout, one mistake you are out n not a time to waste chances... Na for the good of Argentina I dey but whatever it's na Dem know o.. I prefer avarez to lautaro.. why no play Messi in the middle, lautaro or avarez on the left and dyballa on the Right or so, dimaria behind them, that would be fire but what do I know.. I wish Dem the best o
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by benjanny(m): 9:34am On Dec 04, 2022
Well played Albicelestes
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by blueAgent(m): 9:43am On Dec 04, 2022
MrColdsweat:
you are the one who tries to rubbish Milner's greatness by restricting him to just one position.
Milner played as a striker for villa. Played as a 7 for man city. Played as a AM, DM, RB, LB AND CB for liverpool.

I ask again. Messi is very good on the ball. But what does he do when he does not have the ball? Does he chase, tackle, block, intercept? Don't say it's not his duty. Defending in modern football starts from the front.

How many kilometres does he cover per game?

Messi can dribble and score. But there are several things milner can do that messi cannot do. Milner is someone who runs the most, cover the most Ground, tackle the most, make several blocks, yet he will have the highest chance creation in that game.
Milner makes both on-the-ball and off-the-ball contribution. Messi is only good on the ball. He's useless without the ball.


Milner is not messi's mate. In an ideal world, milner will have more balon d'or than everyone.

Wonderment

Is like you started watching ball yesterday.

If you watched yesterday game, you would know that messi, tackles, tracked back,playmake for the team and even scored.

Go and Google messi's heat map for his games, especially when he was younger.

Like I said before your anology is flawed totally flawed.

You are painting a picture of Milner been the only 11 player, has it ever happened?
Can milner alone create chances,defend, goal keep and strike all at the same time?

If Milner team mates do not play there role, would he be able to play his own role well.

I have asked you a simple question which you are avoiding to answer, which of the roles is milner the best in the World?

Mind you he is not the first player to play multiple roles, Jao cancelo of Mancity and many other players play multiple roles, is a common trend in football especially when coming up, it takes a good coach to identify the best positions for a player and help him establish it and he becomes best in it.

All the teams milner has played he was not even the best player of the teams, talkless of the best player in the World.

I rather be the best 4 or 8 in world football than be good in 10positions master of none.
Re: Argentina Vs Australia: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (2 - 1) On 3rd Dec 2022 by Jokerman(m): 9:58am On Dec 04, 2022
OJEEMAH:
It happened at 37 means nothing……it could have happened at anytime in his career so stop using records he was on course to break before or after now to cover his abysmal performance recently.

If you want me to applaud him at 37, show me his top scorer award, player of the tournament or other recognition that shows he’s been impacting games not records he is/was meant to break at some point in his career.

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