PureMe01:
Good conversation to deliberate on but watch as agbado urchins will come in with their tanks of tears

onumadu:

Salary system humanizes a country, while the get-paid-as-you-work dehumanizes and creates a lot of social problems. Everything cannot be monetized; some things are beyond money.

If only our institutions are stronger, there won't be a problem

Under Obi, it might work really well but after Obi what happens

Nigeria politicians are too corrupt to hold anything good!

I am afraid it will be abused!

I might be wrong

PureMe01:
Good conversation to deliberate on but watch as agbado urchins will come in with their tanks of tears

SocialJustice:
Do some research before you try sharing views that are based on cruise and not facts.

onumadu:


I have not only done research on it, I have LIVED IT.
Igbo say that "when a woman marries two different husbands, she would know which one is better."
This "woman" has married two different husbands, and I know which is better.
I'm only trying to warn Nigerians. We shouldn't just copy everything we see abroad.

SocialJustice:
It is unfortunate how you think you know but you're totally ignorant. You believe hourly wage is wrong despite its use by the biggest global economies. That's just daft. This is the one thing we will copy from abroad and it will work because it works everywhere, every time. You think it won't work because you don't even understand it.

Even if I start showing you charts of how hourly wage has moved entire populations from poverty to a strong middle class country, you will say everything is rubbish.

You will go about offline displaying your ignorance and forming elder by quoting proverbs. You think globally proven economic theory is nollywood.

Peterobi90:
I honestly think hourly rate would be better for Nigeria.. it would create dignity in labour, Employment, Job turnovers alongside increase SME's startups due to cheaper labour.

But Nigeria needs to work on its inflation before this comes in, otherwise people would factor in periods of no job for available jobs..

onumadu:
I like Obi/Datti and have been campaigning for them all these while. However, someone should please tell them that the hourly payment is not good for Nigerians. Nigeria has a lot of problems, but Nigeria also has a lot of good socioeconomic practices, some of which Nigerians have taken for granted because they don't know better. One of such practices is SALARY payment system.

In developed countries, the people who get paid salaries are top executives of companies, therefore on its face value, it may seem like a good idea to scrap the salary system in Nigeria. However if you have lived in developed countries, you would see that the get-paid-as-you-work system has many systemic problems. One of such problems is the dehumanizing nature of the system.
It is a system that can easily (and often does) replace human workers with robots.

In many cases, the human workers are even forced to train customers to use robots, essentially training for their own future unemployment.
The salary system is an inherently human/humane system that takes into consideration the workers humanity. When a worker gets sick or unable to work, he/she still gets paid in full, because they have human commitments.

In a get-paid-as-you-work system, once a worker gets sick, s/he only gets paid for yearly assigned sick-off days, which usually lasts for about one month or six weeks max. Once the worker exhausts the sick-off days, s/he is only limited to getting part payment for government approved disability days, which is also usually exhausted quickly (matter of 3 months max), and the worker is then faced with all kinds of economic problems, which usually ends in homelessness. It happens fairly often. Getting sick in such a system is usually the cause of most homelessness. You risk being homeless once you get sick!

When I was in Nigeria, and one of my kids got sick and was rushed to a private children's hospital, the nurse that attended to us had an infant child who she brought with her to work. The baby was sleeping in a small bed next to her, and that was fine. The whole place felt human and normal, and we even enjoyed the company of her new baby. You cannot have such in a developed country, but that is the point of the humanity of the Nigerian system.

Though we often lament the lack of development in Nigeria, we should always be mindful that some of those things that develop a country also dehumanize the country.

Salary system humanizes a country, while the get-paid-as-you-work dehumanizes and creates a lot of social problems. Everything cannot be monetized; some things are beyond money.

Someone should please advise Obi-Datti to drop the get-paid-as-you-work idea, and focus on improving what Nigeria is already doing right. Salary system should be strengthened rather than replaced.

We should not jump from frying pan to fire.



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onumadu:


Some of you are just irredeemable, but some of us who know (and have seen) better owe it a duty to save innocent Nigerians in Nigeria.
When you say that your slaving system "moved entire populations from poverty to a strong middle class country", you don't say the number of homelessness in such system compared with Nigeria that is supposed to be underdeveloped.
You should simply provide counter argument/evidence rather than insult. You provided none.
Ain't gat time for kids.

FarahAideed:
You still want the monthly free loading system ko?

Thanksful:


There is hardly anywhere people are paid as you go everywhere in the world. The hourly rate is paid weekly or biweekly in most cases.

onumadu:


But dignity in labour is inherent and not something you impose.
A good worker (in either system) has dignity and is diligent -always.
Hourly pay is a slippery slope that makes employers greedier and greedier up to the point of replacing workers with machines and robots.
Honestly, Nigerians don't know that even some developed countries envy them in ways that they won't understand until they make that mistake. I can bet that a lot of developed countries workers rue the day they adopted this pay as you go system.
Everything is not about money. Only philosophers can understand this thing.
A Labour party candidate shouldn't even be caught dead near this system.

onumadu:


But it is calculated at hourly rate. You get paid exactly how many hours you worked. Period.
If you have malaria (as is often the case in Nigeria), TOUCH LUCK.
I can't recall how many times people have told me that they have malaria/typhoid in Nigeria -annually.
On this new scale, they are on their own.
It is a sure way to increase in homelessness.
Try and see.
Throw in the fact that Nigeria employers are already abusing workers, then you get the lesson.
What I can't even understand is how a LABOUR PARTY candidate can touch this issue.

onumadu:


I have not only done research on it, I have LIVED IT.
Igbo say that "when a woman marries two different husbands, she would know which one is better."
This "woman" has married two different husbands, and I know which is better.
I'm only trying to warn Nigerians. We shouldn't just copy everything we see abroad.

CSTRR:

So you think.employers care about you now?

The advantages of hourly rates outweighs the disadvantage.

If it wasn't, then Countries like Europe and America would not use it.

You don't value human rights more than those countries.

SocialJustice:
Do some research before you try sharing views that are based on cruise and not facts.