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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 7:20pm On Dec 10, 2022
Barryseal:
Morocco have one of the most exciting football projects currently. The implication of this Semi finals appearance is gargantuan.
Moroccan born players will be highly sort after especially from their $65M football academy. Players from Raja Casablanca, Agadir and Wydad could be heading straight to good football projects in Europe.
These guys are set-up ready for the next 20yrs atleast.
I'm jealous.
Thank you!!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:20pm On Dec 10, 2022
jihday:
lipsrsealed
grin grin And here, we dey carry the victory for head.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:20pm On Dec 10, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
Very true but I think he got frustrated at U20 level and reportedly his boys lost out then because of money wahala with the FA. That said, senior football isn't U17 where all that nonsense from the NFF should continue. I just hope if he gets the job he won't be frustrated like they did to Siasia, Keshi and Oliseh.
A Nigerian will always frustrate another Nigerian... so don't hope they won't frustrate him because you yourself already knows they will frustrate him... Dennis frustrated the other SE players.. Oliseh frustrated Enyeama.. e.t.c
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:21pm On Dec 10, 2022
Add distractions to it. Why do we always have distractions? Our failures are intrinsically linked to our coaching/administrators. Have a good working system first before you start questioning the professionalism of players.

Modified
A coach who is always owed is expected to perform at optimum level. Rohr don spoil una

codemaniacs:
Football is not government politics...

Football is about talent, discipline and stamina...

Morocco have a talented goalkeeper and that GK has been their hero in this tournament... the administrators have to look for a talented goalkeeper and punish indiscipline players like Emmanuel Dennis and encourage discipline..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 7:21pm On Dec 10, 2022
codemaniacs:
A Nigerian will always frustrate another Nigerian... so don't hope they won't frustrate him because you yourself already knows they will frustrate him... Dennis frustrated the other SE players.. Oliseh frustrated Enyeama.. e.t.c
Wahala!!! You are actually right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:22pm On Dec 10, 2022
My sentiments exactly! Pinnick and the NFF wasted our chances to do damage at this World Cup. And it isn’t Victor Osimhen either, but also players like Calvin Bassey, Terem Moffi, Alex Iwobi, Wilf Ndidi, Samuel Chukwueze, etc. plus the new guy who played RB against Portugal … I can’t recall his name.

We could’ve been the dark horses at this tourney. This World Cup was actually coming at the right moment for many of players.


O pari

Blueelf:
Unpopular opinion and you guys know I don't normally talk like this but here goes:

Argentina has not faced a striker at this world cup like Victor Osimhen yet. I guarantee you guys that

It's sad that a bad country like Nigeria wants to waste his prime years
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:22pm On Dec 10, 2022
Blueelf:
Yes but we'll also need selfless and incorruptible administrators too

I have always harped on the need to get 3 solid GKs

I'm sorry to say this but Uzoho and that model guy will kot even make it to Morocco's bench

They are unreliable and have hecome too comfortable
the SE needs selfless players...

you can't put selfless and incorruptible in the same sentence when talking about government employees because its impossible for most of them...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:23pm On Dec 10, 2022
OK then, join me in the fasting and prayer for God to carry Messi through. Personally, I think football owes Messi a World Cup.


O pari

Marjoribanks:
They have won.
I think the only team that can stop the Morrocans is France or Argentina.
I will be highly delighted if Messi wins!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:25pm On Dec 10, 2022
elyte89:
Download football rocker app, cool
Thank you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:25pm On Dec 10, 2022
na for Far East we go find those kind of players oh. Or maybe homebased players when dey fight to japa. There is No good player welfare from selfish administrators and u dey demand selflessness. The matter get as e be
codemaniacs:
the SE needs selfless players...

you can't put selfless and incorruptible in the same sentence when talking about government employees because its impossible for most of them...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by fabyom: 7:26pm On Dec 10, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
He took one with Dennis jare.
I knew you would cite Dennis as an example. Do you expect him to abuse him publicly? No! Next invite will judge!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:29pm On Dec 10, 2022
Quote it and stop lying. Folks like you are predictable. Hate fuels your every response to something or someone you just don't like.

I always stood for a Morocco surprise. No matter what. So stop the lies and just accept that you don't have my kind of foresight and insight into the tactical makings of a truly good team. Thank you.

mostob:
But the prediction you made about them yesterday was wrong. You already wrote them off against Portugal.

Just saying grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:30pm On Dec 10, 2022
Joebie:
I have always been an advocate of performance only consideration in selection and continuous selection. And I will celebrate any player doing it. But most of us here are only fixated on the big leagues.

My bro as per JP matter we can’t keep on adopting a hope and pray approach. We have waited too long doing the same things. If the NFF are really serious about good results they should show it in their search for a coach and stop toying with coaches salaries. The coach needs a clear head to work. Stop messing with the emotions of many Nigerians. This is an institutional problem, and just because we’ve had partial successes in the past, we believe its okay.

Nigeria will never get to its true potential if we keep doing things like this. This is where I agree with komekn
Joebie, I have been an advocate that all national team salaries including coaches, players and other coaching staff shouldn't come through NFF anymore

There should be a separate budget for it. It shouldn't even come under the sports ministry. Like, RMAFC should allocate a portion of
Budget to paying coaches straight from the executive.

My advice has some ripple effects:

1) You would see football administrators no longer fight tooth and nail for positions in the NFF. After all, no coach salary to chop

2) These coaches are seen as civil servants and are liable to face Nigerian law for infarctions against our football. As a coach, of you're caught taking bribe, then EFCC/ICPC can investigate you because technically, you're a civil servant. Also, you should be willing to submit yourself to periodic audit every 3 months. Same law applied to player bonuses

3) A law that makes owing coach salary a criminal offence liable to extended prison time would then be put in place because there's no reason to owe them anymore sin e their salaries are now budgeted for anymore. Same for player match bonuses.

One.more thing, NFF function ought to be pure administrative and not fiscal. Times have shown that they can't be trusted and are dishonest with money.

See my solution can work if duly implemented.

Your takes..


Komekn, thegoodjoe, thesupernerd, typicalgamer, codemaniacs, mujtahida, kog45, icon79, forgiveness, charlesemeka85, danielnino00, odunayaw

Please I need you guys takes on this please
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:30pm On Dec 10, 2022
Thank you. It is only we the youths that can save Nigeria. But first we have to start by speaking and accepting the truth.

AndSunGorilla:
I mean most of us here are either entrepreneurs or paid employees, we don't want to be grappling with unpaid salaries or fees now even people working in NGOs get paid. The payment issue is a perennial problem, there are no two ways about it, it's simply terrible. Alfas and pastors dey collect money now. What makes it even worse is that the players know that some of the officials steal the money!!!! And we want them to turn a blind eye? Upfront we should be open with this is how much we can afford to pay, then whoever isn't comfortable won't show face. But the NFF agrees and now owes this guys, and truth is once you retire or stop getting invites, the unpaid money is gone for ever!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:30pm On Dec 10, 2022
codemaniacs:
the SE needs selfless players...

you can't put selfless and incorruptible in the same sentence when talking about government employees because its impossible for most of them...
Let me tag you to a post I just made
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:33pm On Dec 10, 2022
The same NFF officials? U wan commot food from their table? They will run to FIFA and before you know it we will be facing an impending ban.

Blueelf:
Joebie, I have been an advocate that all national team salaries including coaches, players and other coaching staff shouldn't come through NFF anymore

There should be a separate budget for it. It shouldn't even come under the sports ministry. Like, RMAFC should allocate a portion of
Budget to paying coaches straight from the executive.

My advice has some ripple effects:

1) You would see football administrators no longer fight tooth and nail for positions in the NFF. After all, no coach salary to chop

2) These coaches are seen as civil servants and are liable to face Nigerian law for infarctions against our football. As a coach, of you're caught taking bribe, then EFCC/ICPC can investigate you because technically, you're a civil servant. Also, you should be willing to submit yourself to periodic audit every 3 months. Same law applied to player bonuses

3) A law that makes owing coach salary a criminal offence liable to extended prison time would then be put in place because there's no reason to owe them anymore sin e their salaries are now budgeted for anymore. Same for player match bonuses.

One.more thing, NFF function ought to be pure administrative and not fiscal. Times have shown that they can't be trusted and are dishonest with money.

See my solution can work if duly implemented.

Your takes..


Komekn, thegoodjoe, thesupernerd, typicalgamer, codemaniacs, mujtahida, kog45, icon79, forgiveness, charlesemeka85
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by fabyom: 7:33pm On Dec 10, 2022
codemaniacs:
Football is not government politics...

Football is about talent, discipline and stamina...

Morocco have a talented goalkeeper and that GK has been their hero in this tournament... the administrators have to look for a talented goalkeeper and punish indiscipline players like Emmanuel Dennis and encourage discipline..
Spot on. I do think journalists should be ban from the Super Eagles training and hotel. Those journalists cost us the World Cup tickets. They were just all over the players seeking silly interviews.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:35pm On Dec 10, 2022
Joebie:
na for Far East we go find those kind of players oh. Or maybe homebased players when dey fight to japa. There is No good player welfare from selfish administrators and u dey demand selflessness. The matter get as e be
Joebie:
Add distractions to it. Why do we always have distractions? Our failures are intrinsically linked to our coaching/administrators. Have a good working system first before you start questioning the professionalism of players.

Modified
A coach who is always owed is expected to perform at optimum level. Rohr don spoil una
Our failures are linked to not picking the right players or not subbing off players and players that don't take their chances...

Moses Simon had a 1 on 1 chance against Ghana and he shot straight at the GK...

Osimhen was also struggling to stay onside throughout both legs which is something he seems to have been working on and correcting and the goal he scored was offside...

If Simon had better finishing or wasn't even picked at all we could have qualified...

if Osimhen had the intelligence in April that he currently seems to have in November to stay onside against Ghana then his goal would have counted and we would have also qualified...

In summary...
It was the Coach, Assistant coaches and coaching staff and the players themselves failed the SE... not the Administrators
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:35pm On Dec 10, 2022
Joebie:
The same NFF officials? U wan commot food from their table? They will run to FIFA and before you know it we will be facing an impending ban.
Na politicians full that NFF...
On a norm, a country like Nigeria that wins international trophies at different levels almost every 2/3 years shouldn't have problem with getting funds.... mismanagement is always the problem...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:37pm On Dec 10, 2022
Blueelf:
Joebie, I have been an advocate that all national team salaries including coaches, players and other coaching staff shouldn't come through NFF anymore

There should be a separate budget for it. It shouldn't even come under the sports ministry. Like, RMAFC should allocate a portion of
Budget to paying coaches straight from the executive.

My advice has some ripple effects:

1) You would see football administrators no longer fight tooth and nail for positions in the NFF. After all, no coach salary to chop

2) These coaches are seen as civil servants and are liable to face Nigerian law for infarctions against our football. As a coach, of you're caught taking bribe, then EFCC/ICPC can investigate you because technically, you're a civil servant. Also, you should be willing to submit yourself to periodic audit every 3 months. Same law applied to player bonuses

3) A law that makes owing coach salary a criminal offence liable to extended prison time would then be put in place because there's no reason to owe them anymore sin e their salaries are now budgeted for anymore. Same for player match bonuses.

One.more thing, NFF function ought to be pure administrative and not fiscal. Times have shown that they can't be trusted and are dishonest with money.

See my solution can work if duly implemented.

Your takes..
your point is good but...

NFF and Coaches are protected by FIFA...

so any government interference will likely result in FIFA ban...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:37pm On Dec 10, 2022
O pari
Danielnino00:
Na politicians full that NFF...
On a norm, a country like Nigeria that wins international trophies at different levels almost every 2/3 years shouldn't have problem with getting funds.... mismanagement is always the problem...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 7:38pm On Dec 10, 2022
Blueelf:
Joebie, I have been an advocate that all national team salaries including coaches, players and other coaching staff shouldn't come through NFF anymore

There should be a separate budget for it. It shouldn't even come under the sports ministry. Like, RMAFC should allocate a portion of
Budget to paying coaches straight from the executive.

My advice has some ripple effects:

1) You would see football administrators no longer fight tooth and nail for positions in the NFF. After all, no coach salary to chop

2) These coaches are seen as civil servants and are liable to face Nigerian law for infarctions against our football. As a coach, of you're caught taking bribe, then EFCC/ICPC can investigate you because technically, you're a civil servant. Also, you should be willing to submit yourself to periodic audit every 3 months. Same law applied to player bonuses

3) A law that makes owing coach salary a criminal offence liable to extended prison time would then be put in place because there's no reason to owe them anymore sin e their salaries are now budgeted for anymore. Same for player match bonuses.

One.more thing, NFF function ought to be pure administrative and not fiscal. Times have shown that they can't be trusted and are dishonest with money.

See my solution can work if duly implemented.

Your takes..


Komekn, thegoodjoe, thesupernerd, typicalgamer, codemaniacs, mujtahida, kog45, icon79, forgiveness, charlesemeka85
not feasible because the same nff criminals will run to fifa to complain of governments involvement which will attract a ban
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:38pm On Dec 10, 2022
Joebie:
The same NFF officials? U wan commot food from their table? They will run to FIFA and before you know it we will be facing an impending ban.
Read we'll bro

FiFA will jot have issues with a cou try deciding how they pay salaries to coaches and players

Its the admin function that should be nff and fifa concern
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by COOL10(m): 7:39pm On Dec 10, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
We are comfortable handing the jobs to white journey men but if it is a Nigerian, he should win CAF Champions League.

Amunike deserves the job.

What did Rohr and Peseiro do to merit the job?
Amuneke doesn't deserve jackshittt. Neither did Rohr and Peseiro. I'm a fan of his philosophy but National Team Football is heavily result based. We need a proven winner, a consistent one; either on the local scene or international scene.

Like I said earlier, we're not ready in this country. When we're ready, we'll tell ourselves the truth and the improvement shall begin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 7:40pm On Dec 10, 2022
But wait oooo!

Shebi na eguavoen wey no fit see the team through to the afcon quarter finals and qualify for the world na em still be the head of nff’s technical dept? cheesy cheesy

Chai! cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:42pm On Dec 10, 2022
Oga so u are telling me the attitude of your bosses cannot affect your passion to work for the company.

My brother the environment does not encourage excellence.

codemaniacs:
Our failures are linked to not picking the right players or not subbing off players and players that don't take their chances...

Moses Simon had a 1 on 1 chance against Ghana and he shot straight at the GK...

Osimhen was also struggling to stay onside throughout both legs which is something he seems to have been working on and correcting and the goal he scored was offside...

If Simon had better finishing or wasn't even picked at all we could have qualified...

if Osimhen had the intelligence in April that he currently seems to have in November to stay onside against Ghana then his goal would have counted and we would have also qualified...

In summary...
It was the Coach, Assistant coaches and coaching staff and the players themselves failed the SE... not the Administrators
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:43pm On Dec 10, 2022
That role na he birthright, who wan take am?
charlesemeka85:
But wait oooo!

Shebi na eguavoen wey no fit see the team through to the afcon quarter finals and qualify for the world na em still be the head of nff’s technical dept? cheesy cheesy

Chai! cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:43pm On Dec 10, 2022
charlesemeka85:
not feasible because the same nff criminals will run to fifa to complain of governments involvement which will attract a ban
And I say again, FIFA would then have an issue with how a country's player and coach is paid salary/allowance since NFF role ought to be purely administrative in the first place
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:44pm On Dec 10, 2022
Okay let’s even assume this is possible under FIFA regulations, who will push for this move?
Blueelf:
Read we'll bro

FiFA will jot have issues with a cou try deciding how they pay salaries to coaches and players

Its the admin function that should be nff and fifa concern
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:45pm On Dec 10, 2022
Joebie:
Okay let’s even assume this is possible under FIFA regulations, who will push for this move?
A sports minoster with a good head on his shoulders

No president of Nigeria would have issues with this....

Liase with the senate and house of rep..they will jump at it because na to pad budget them like. So it's an opportunity to do more padding. The overarching goal is that coaches and players get what's due to them when it's due to them.

Simple
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:46pm On Dec 10, 2022
Wetin u dey shack that time?

I’m not sold on Amuneke yet
COOL10:
Amuneke doesn't deserve jackshittt. Neither did Rohr and Peseiro. I'm a fan of his philosophy but National Team Football is heavily result based. We need a proven winner, a consistent one; either on the local scene or international scene.

Like I said earlier, we're not ready in this country. When we're ready, we'll tell ourselves the truth and the improvement shall begin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:48pm On Dec 10, 2022
Haha. Let’s hope and pray. You know how that goes.

Modified
Na presido dey pick sports minister
Blueelf:
A sports minoster with a good head on his shoulders

No president of Nigeria would have issues with this....

Liase with the senate and house of rep..they will jump at it because na to pad budget them like. So it's an opportunity to do more padding. The overarching goal is that coaches and players get what's due to them when it's due to them.

Simple
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