₦airaland Forum

uniquetechng:
7.5kva solar will set me back 8m minimum, nah not in for that ATM.

IyaTola:
Make it 9kva, you want 24hrs electricity, you have got to spend.

Angelfrost:
Abeg, tell them! These people don't know!

They don't realize that cost and standard of living are relative.

uniquetechng:
At the right time bruv Sis, in this present economy nobody rushes anything, one has to plan ahead and put other expenses into consideration before concluding on acquiring new stuffs especially something as expensive as solar system.

IyaTola:

IyaTola:
My younger sis left Lagos to Ondo, she said, its the best decision she ever she has ever made.

Pojomojo:

IyaTola:
Even in the bank you work in?

sisisioge:
Sense again is relative....every mallam to his kettle.

sisisioge:
I just left naija not too long ago, was single, was in HR and earned close to that 700k as my net. Yet I left. I had friends who left earning close to twice that amount but still left. You are correct, comfort is relative, simply living in a comfy apartment, driving comfy car and being able to afford good food might be enough for some, while others need beyond that to feel comfortable. The salary scaled up significantly in naija since January 2022....the fresh from NYSC doctors in a hospital I worked with earned 300k while those with experience earned as much as 1.2m. Dont even think it....salaries had scaled way higher than you thought.


Let me add that those doing japa runs spending close to 40m aren't all borrowing fa....where do you think the savings came from?

Olami90:
Good evening to you,

May I request to message you in private so as to clarify some questions bothering me (it concerns career while you were in Nigeria and few others)??

donproject2:
The .1 is for the street, rituals for uniform masters and other kings of trenches.

Codes151:
not looking down on anything chief. Ask questions baba. 2018 I received a statement from a company on a client that we did visa for. It was 98m (entitlement, salary + bonuses, etc) the dude has house in Canada and Uk. But e no Dey like travel. All him kids Dey out there.
The point is. Nigeria is wicked. You see they have indirectly reduced the pay scale to nothing in nigeria. That man in question no d gree travel.

I know Wetin I Dey talk. People Dey way Dey pocket 3.2m , 2.4m monthly. People Dey way Dey collect over 3-5m just for Christmas. Baba. Leave matter. Those old big boys companies still Dey low key. Forget Wetin we de see.

Presently. In nigeria, person go find worker they offer cheap salary. And today it's order of the day. The man Inquestion is a 25 year old (into the work) type.

Was just trying to say that people still Dey way Dey collect better pay.

noalistic:
I understand one can be biased and try to be patriotic, hence we make funny argument and comparisons. Some of you are comparing a minimum wage job abroad to its naira equivalent in NIgeria and suddenly say Nigeria is better. Why not compare it to a minimum wage (33k) job in Nigeria and let's see the standard of life one will have here compared to abroad. Sure, most minimum wage earners abroad live in debts, so in Nigeria too but those one abroad still have access to better life (better electricity and water supply, cleaner environment, better healthcare, more access to loans and scholarships etc). If you really wanna compare, compare the average salary a doctor, cleaner, nurse, accountant etc earn abroad to what their counterparts earn in Nigeria and calculate the impact of their salaries on their standard of living and fulfilment level. It is wrong to compare the $2,000 a menial job worker earns to about N1.4m (700/$) just like that and say earning its naira equivalent in Nigeria is better because most people don't even earn that, not even highly skilled workers. You can try doing that same menial job in Nigeria and let's see if you will even earn up to 5% of that amount, lol.

Imagine, some people even using tax evasion as an advantage for Nigeria and yet you complain there are no basic amenities. You get what you give. Furthermore, some Nigerians are greedy, they wanna earn what they can't earn in their home country for a particular skillset and yet wanna enjoy the little or no tax they don't pay in Nigeria. How pathetic. Also, Nigerians want to build houses back home, remit money home and help as many family members as they can, so obviously, they will need to work more because the system abroad isn't designed for such heavy load. People in Eastern Europe are very conservative and less materialistic so they are contended with what they are getting. Some don't even mind not having a car and they are fulfilled with life (hence the high life expectancy there) but Nigerians want heaven and earth, never satisfied, hence their disappointment and lack of fulfilment.

My advice is that, have a proper plan and orientation if you wanna travel out. It's not easy anywhere. Money is not found littering the streets of Europe and America. Some people are not travelling out for economic or financial gains, they are already doing well but there is more to that in NIgeria of today. If money is the major problem, go into tech and get a remote job that pays in dollars and you will be balling in millions but funny enough, I have some friends like that and they have either japa or on their way to japa so money isn't everything.

Sarang:
Your stat was still wrong.
But you are right, people lots of people make over 3m overseas, some in naija sef. Still not a basis to look down on people's livelihood. Nah from 10k person dey take plan im life dey earn 5m. Life is a journey, let's respect that.

FuckOsuPigs:
I earn N13m per annum and I have a chat with the regional head of a top bank tomorrow for possible switch in which I'm going to ask for N18m. But I will still japa before the year runs out by God's grace.

It's no longer about money.

Dijita:
I agreed with his analysis. Yes neither US nor Uk is a paradise. However, your statistics of murder per capital in US vs Nigeria is wrong. According to World bank(data.worldbank.org), there are 22 murders in Nigeria compare to 5 in US per 100,000 people in 2019. While I may agree with you that their is high level of car jacking in many US metros, this is a property crime and when all is consider they are more property crime in Nigeria than America. In US, most if of these crimes are reported, while in our few are reported in country.
I don't know where you live that the quality of public education sucks to the point that you send your children to private school. I spent more money on relative children in Nigeria than I spent on my children k-12 education in the US. One of them graduated high school as AP scholar start working as a software engineer immediately after high school. The other is doing two master degrees in one of the health sciences field finishing one this December and the second next year December. They both attended public school and community colleges.

I agree with his analysis mostly base on my experience. When I was in Lagos, I was earning good money and living comfortable life. However, when the opportunity came, I choose to japa because of my children's future. Some of the guys we worked together that thought it is foolishness to come abroad and be doing security job are now calling us for help. Some of them were forced into early retirement and those that are working the pay did not keep up with increase responsibilities. Some of them are now calling us for financial assistance. As I always told my children, it is better to be the one been called than to be the one calling.

If you japa with a purpose and plan your life, mostly study and do well in your education. Don't compete with people in Nigeria and don't look for shortcut. It is going to be very hard initially, but as time goes on you are going to do better than most of of your peers back home. There will be those who will be better but you will be happy of your decision.
Even at the early stage, doing security or CNA, your problem is not going to be catering for yourself, it is the support for people back home that will drain you. A security guard in US with a wife, 2 or 3 kids and the wife is working security or CNA don't need to work overtime to put food on the table and pay all their bills. It is our desire to build house and help our relative that force us to work overtime. America system is designed for you, your wife and children.
Off course it is not for everybody, if you have a clear vision for your future in Nigeria, No point for you to japa

Angelfrost:
Dear friend, I'm well traveled and have done my research.

Over 70 percent of working Nigerians will kill for a salary as high as 300k per month! Don't argue this... Ask around!

How many Pharmacists, Nurses, even Doctors earn up that as basic monthly salary?!! And these are supposed to be the pillars of the nation's healthcare industry.

I know and agree that some (not plenty) Nigerians earn even more than that and can't live comfortably (they know why)...!

Some even earn up to 400k to 500k per month and perpetually live in debts! This is real!

Abroad, it's the same thing...! There are people earning over 12000 Dollars monthly, yet live in debts and constantly whine!

Make we dey talk realistically abeg...!

There is a difference between comfort and wealth! I have been talking about relative comfort since!

Go to states like Ogun, Edo, Kano, Imo, Delta, etc... People earning over 250k per month are balling in their own way and lane!

IbeOkehie:
The data is clear on earnings in Nigeria. Only 0.5% of Nigerian adults earn over ₦‎200K per month.

I was shocked to find out that Chevron Nigeria has only 600 full time, permanent status employees in Nigeria. The total employment in the oil industry - TOTAL, including drivers & gatemen - is 65,000 persons. That's the top industry in Nigeria, so how many more high earners are out there? Not many and apparently a lot of them are on Nairaland!

Nigeria! Nigerians! Whatever!

sisisioge:
Sorry my DM not working. Pls ask your questions here. Thanks.

Olami90:
I may not be able to ask all factoring confidentiality.

You mentioned an hospital on that comment of yours. May I ask the name, location and prospect of getting opportunity to work with them as trained nurse, pay range and possibility of links there.

xandy84:
I agreed with mostly of what you said with few disagreement. First, crime rate is higher in America than in Nigeria. Minus northern Nigeria, other region is relatively peaceful with pockets of violent. Used to live in Chicago and I now live in Virginia Beach. For a school to look nice does not mean you getting the best education for your kids. America is better than Nigeria but I am completely against people who quit careers or sell house to travel to US or UK only to start afresh. There are cab drivers in Chicago who were doctors in Nigeria. That does not add up to me but I believe people have different views and I might be wrong

Tannhauser:
Bang! An refreshingly intelligent submission.

Most people think japa is all about money, thats foolishness.
I would rather stack shelves in Lidl as a permanent resident/ citizen than be a senator in Nigeria.
Na me TALK am.

being:
People talk about immigration success just by the amount of money you could earn converted to naira. Some are practical and measure by quality of PHYSICAL living- d roads, other amenities, security too. But what about the PSYCHOLOGICAL aspect? The racism, the career ceiling for most immigrants; the SOCIAL aspect- the coldness of the whites, d lack of extended family knitting/support , the CULTURAL aspect and the RELIGIOUS aspect?
These are aspects to life that can still cause deep pain (or fulfillment) even when everything physical is taken care of

Fab21:
No specification.

I Just need anything to put food on my table.

Applying for jobs after NYSC prog without feedback isn't funny anymore...

sisisioge:
Sorry, I left and have no info about them. Just google top 5 hospitals on the island and submit application with them. Nurses with 1 to 2yrs experience earn between 150k to 200k. They are always recruiting as there is a current exodus of nurses too in the industry. Good luck.

Tingotoe:
Are you Buhari?

IbeOkehie:
The data is clear on earnings in Nigeria. Only 0.5% of Nigerian adults earn over ₦‎200K per month. Over 99.5% of bank accounts contain less than ₦‎500K. Unemployment is at 33%. The evidence is that the vast majority of Nigerians are in dire poverty.

I was shocked to find out that Chevron Nigeria has only 600 full time, permanent status employees in Nigeria. The total employment in the oil industry - TOTAL, including drivers & gatemen - is 65,000 persons. That's the top industry in Nigeria, so how many more high earners are out there? Not many and apparently a lot of them are on Nairaland!

Nigeria! Nigerians! Whatever!