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Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by TenQ: 5:32pm On Dec 14, 2022
mjuvey3:
Some of you so called christians are hypocrites & self centered....Mind you,I was born into a christian home.

Some of you claim to be holy but you pray for your enemies to die even when Jesus said love your enemies as yourself.
You are lieing.
The questions you asked betrayed your COMPLETE and TOTAL ignorance of Christianity!

Why did you like?
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by kkins25(m): 7:51pm On Dec 14, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Think... why in the world would any reasonable mind think this here another meaningless discourse about some standard of definition of Religion? undecided
Go right ahead and read your Harry Potter then if you are not able to intelligently dig through the topic at hand abeg! undecided
okay oh, so after all the "daddy G.Os are fake" at the end of the day we arrive at "it is my personal experience.." grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity is my favorite religion. grin grin grin grin
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by Kobojunkie: 8:09pm On Dec 14, 2022
kkins25:
okay oh, so after all the "daddy G.Os are fake" at the end of the day we arrive at "it is my personal experience.." grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity is my favorite religion. grin grin grin grin
I have made it abundantly clear that what passes as Christianity in the world of today -- has sadly been that way for at least just over 1600 years now --- is nothing but a sham given that it does not align in anyway with that which is in fact contained in scripture --- this in anyway or form. So why would I attempt to engage in a discourse about exactly that which is pointless and meaningless for Pete's sake? undecided
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by kkins25(m): 8:33pm On Dec 14, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I have made it abundantly clear that what passes as Christianity in the world of today -- has sadly been that way for at least just over 1600 years now --- is nothing but a sham given that it does not align in anyway with that which is in fact contained in scripture --- this in anyway or form.
Again, this are just claims since we do not have any concrete idea of how the religion was practiced on the said 1600 years ago. From the little religion i know, I'm pretty sure, what ancient judeo-christians practiced can be defined as religion.

Again, Since you are able to compare these two instances, it implies that you are comparing to criteria(which you have set) which i would define as "system of faith." Religion entails how you worship God in order words, the system of faith. But then, if your version isn't religion, what is it? culture? experience?

So why would I attempt to engage in a discourse about exactly that which is pointless and meaningless for Pete's sake? undecided
Speaking of Peter, who was a strict adherent of the laws of Judaism, wouldn't you classify his own beliefs and system of faith as Religion?

On your remarks about me not reading the book, well, I've read just a portion of it, or watched summaries of a portion of it, to deduce--that it's a sham irrespective of what lenses you choose to scrutinize it.
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by Kobojunkie: 8:38pm On Dec 14, 2022
kkins25:
Again, this are just claims since we do not have any concrete idea of how the religion was practiced on the said 1600 years ago. From the little religion i know, I'm pretty sure, what ancient judeo-christians practiced can be defined as religion.
We do....the Roman catholic church which came into existence about 1600 years ago serves as a foundation of sorts for what is considered the Christian religion that you have today and the source of many of the founding doctrines that is Christianity, the religion, you have today. undecided

Again, I have made it abundantly clear that what passes as Christianity in the world of today -- has sadly been that way for at least just over 1600 years now --- is nothing but a sham given that it does not align in anyway with that which is in fact contained in scripture --- this in anyway or form. So why would I attempt to engage in a discourse about exactly that which is pointless and meaningless for Pete's sake? undecided
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by kkins25(m): 8:41pm On Dec 14, 2022
Kobojunkie:
We do....the Roman catholic church which came into existence about 1600 years ago serves as a foundation of sorts for what is considered the Christian religion that you have today and the source of many of the founding doctrines that is Christianity, the religion, you have today. undecided
Then what was the practice before the infection from the Roman catholic church? What sources do you have of the religion to prior the roman catholic church?
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by Kobojunkie: 8:47pm On Dec 14, 2022
kkins25:
Then what was the practice before the infection from the Roman catholic church? What sources do you have of the religion to prior the roman catholic church?
Whatever other religion was in place and was possibly booted by the Catholic church also doesn't matter in this since the concern here is not of religion but of Jesus Christ. And following that which is written in scripture, what Jesus Christ gave as Gospel to His followers --- those who answer directly to Him --- is not a religion but a Law for them to live their individual lives by. undecided

So, again, if what you are interested in is a debate about religions, I am the wrong person for such. undecided
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by kkins25(m): 8:51pm On Dec 14, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Whatever other religion was in place before it was possibly booted before the Catholic church also doesn't matter in this since the concern here is not of religion but of Jesus Christ. And following that which is written in scripture, what Jesus Christ gave as Gospel to His followers --- those who answer directly to Him --- is not a religion but a Law for them to live their individual lives by. undecided

So, again, if what you are interested in is a debate about religions, I am the wrong person for such. undecided
Let me get this straight;
You understand Jesus Christ better based on the books compiled by the very same corrupt Roman Catholic church? What make you think the canonical gospel wasn't the altered version of the religion? There is something flawed in your logic.. That like me reading African history from a white man. Obviously, the part were he murdered millions of my kinsmen would be left out. Have you considered that the Gnostic gospel may be a better representation of Christianity?
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by Kobojunkie: 8:55pm On Dec 14, 2022
kkins25:
Let me get this straight;You understand Jesus Christ better based on the books compiled by the very same corrupt Roman Catholic church? What make you think the canonical gospel wasn't the altered version of the religion? There is something flawed in your logic.. That like me reading African history from a white man. Obviously, the part were he murdered millions of my kinsmen would be left out. Have you considered that the Gnostic gospel may be a better representation of Christianity?
Look through my archives to find my responses to these very same questions abeg! undecided

Let's be honest here... I really don't owe anyone any explanation or apologies as far as my belief in Jesus Christ rather than the churches and theories of men. So? The work I have to do is to teach the Gospel as given by Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone and that is what I would rather spend my precious time engaging in when I am in the religion section. undecided
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by LottiOk: 9:18pm On Dec 14, 2022
Bravo !!! cheesy you really wore kobojunke out, cheesy imagine a grown man believing in spiderman & claiming to know him better than Stan Lee d creator cheesy grin Rotflmao


kkins25:
Let me get this straight;
You understand Jesus Christ better based on the books compiled by the very same corrupt Roman Catholic church? What make you think the canonical gospel wasn't the altered version of the religion? There is something flawed in your logic.. That like me reading African history from a white man. Obviously, the part were he murdered millions of my kinsmen would be left out. Have you considered that the Gnostic gospel may be a better representation of Christianity?
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by mjuvey3(op):
TenQ:
Can you please first respond to this below then we can have an interesting conversation



Someone asked, why so much interest in prophet Mohammad?

The answer is not difficult
It is because your prophet is the strangest prophet in the history of Prophethood
1. He's the only prophet his God never spoke to directly
2. He is the only prophet to be squeezed three time by an angel with a command to READ
3. He is the only prophet that even after receiving a direct Command from Allah three times to read, he still couldn't read
4. The only prophet to covet and marry the wife of his adopted son
5. The only prophet that was caught by his wife committing adultery with the slave of his wife
6. The only prophet ever to be accused of stealing a red velvet cloth after the battle of badr
7. The only prophet who married a six year old and did all manner of unthinkable sexual things to her until two years later he couldn't help but penetrate her.
8. The only prophet he had sex with a woman whose family was killed less than 24 hours after
9. The only prophet whose God permittedd prostitution for Muslims
10. The only prophet above the laws of Allah for all Muslims.


You will agree with me that this makes prophet Muhammad an extraordinary prophet worthy of being mentioned by ALL whose prophets seem like Saints in comparison.

All these and much more are from Islamic literatures o.

Sorry, we wish all these are LIES but they are from your Islamic literatures!

What do you expect us to do. If Jesus has 1% of these flaws, we would have all converted to Islam.

Thank you

QUESTION:
Please why this aberration?
Oga I'm not Muslim....You can see I never mentioned Allah or Prophet Muhammad in all my posts.

I'm also not here to abuse or ridicule Jesus....

If Apostle Peter who was with Jesus could deny him,why can't I raise questions?

If Judas Iscariot can betray Jesus even after being not just an apostle but Jesus's treasurer. Why can't I raise questions?
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by TenQ: 2:47pm On Dec 15, 2022
mjuvey3:
Oga I'm not Muslim....You can see I never mentioned Allah or Prophet Muhammad in all my posts.

I'm also not here to abuse or ridicule Jesus....

If Apostle Peter who was with Jesus could deny him,why can't I raise questions?

If Judas Iscariot can betray Jesus even after being not just an apostle but Jesus's treasurer. Why can't I raise questions?
Sorry for misrepresenting you.
I will answer all your questions if you mind
BUT
To be on the same page can you answer this question that was asked by JESUS.

Mat 22:41-45:
"While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think you of Christ? whose son is he? They say to him, The son of David. He said to them, How then does David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit you on my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?"


Who do you say the Christ is?
Re: Christians,i Need Your Attention. by mjuvey3(op): 8:49pm On Dec 15, 2022
TenQ:
Sorry for misrepresenting you.
I will answer all your questions if you mind
BUT
To be on the same page can you answer this question that was asked by JESUS.

Mat 22:41-45:
"While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think you of Christ? whose son is he? They say to him, The son of David. He said to them, How then does David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit you on my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?"


Who do you say the Christ is?
Interesting passage.

Somnvayina what's your opinion on this question.
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