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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 10:04pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Philosopher1979:Insecurity issues nor dey Cameroon? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:16pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Taiwo Awoniyi and Emmanuel Dennis with the goals as Nott. Forest beat Valencia at home. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ThanosKilla(m): 10:26pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Looks like Eberechi Eze has seen the light. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:44pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Let me drop this here before the final day Golden ball winner : Lionel Messi Silver ball winner :Kylian mbappe Bronze ball winner :Griezman Best young player of the tournament: Julian Alvarez |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 11:04pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ThanosKilla(m): 11:15pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
elyte89:Ready to play for the eagles. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:44pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
ThanosKilla:are you sure? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by PDPGuy: 11:57pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Danielnino00:I agree with one other poster who said Algeria/Morocco could win. After losing out on hosting the 1994, 1998, 2006, and 2010 World Cups, CAF may just compensate them with hosting the AFCON.. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:29am On Dec 17, 2022 |
mostob:Can you tell me the last time l talked about Fred Onyedinma ❓ Of course you cannot thats why you are jumping on this facetious train with prejudice. I will tell you more than 4 seasons ago. However, he has not been relegated to playing youth football, or had his contract prematurely terminated, and or playing for bankruptcy relegation facing club and is not begging for a contract. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:38am On Dec 17, 2022*. Modified: 1:04am On Dec 17, 2022 |
benji93:All you have done is talk a dribble around yourself in your bid to maintain your subtle playdown stance on Pele's impact across his 3 WC wins. You are the one missing the point of what is being debated. You said a whole lot of misinformation which I had to correct so ofcos you would be lost in trying to reply it all. And not everything my dad gave me is on the internet today. Not everything. My dad had tapes/recordings of some of Pele's club games. These, I could not find on the internet. So don't try so hard to be smart about what you clearly don't know. You don't know the half of what My dad passed down to me when I was a boy. Just stick to what you know aiit. The only second hand info I see here is you only using peripheral contexts of history to have a Pele discussion which is again why I pick more holes in all you have stated, several of which are irrelevant as usual. And you missed it on Garrincha in 1966. Read on and you will see your faux pas. Ofcos I expected a rebuttal but ofcos it is a disjointed one. One still doing its best to avoid the truth and face the central point. And Pele's 3 WC wins aren't overrated as you claim. Infact you are confused. How can you to claim to not call Pele overrated yet you are here trying so hard to label his World Cup Achievements as Overrated when you know those World Cup wins are tied strongly to the Greatness of the man. You think you are so smart. Lol.... You literally want to water down his achievements yet still want us thinking you actually rate the man as a GOAT player. Bro... No dey disguise abeg. FYI, Pele was crowned best young player of the 1958 WC. That was more than enough proof to show his insane impact in that tournament. He was 17. They weren't gonna give the Best player of the Senior WC tournament to a legally underage boy even when he was clearly the overall best. Like I already said, Didi became World Renowned after his showing at the 1958 WC. A case similar to Sofyan at this year's WC. So ofcos, he was rightly recognised at the WC. But the world conceeded it wasn't Didi's WC. It was Pele's. It was the beginning of a Legend that have lived on till this day UNSURPASSED. And the point of them not being stars-studded in 1958 still stands. Brazil went into a that tournament a battered force no thanks to their 1950 failure and their misadventure in 1954 losing to the Mighty Magyars and guess what, Didi was in that 1954 Squad that failed. You make it look like Didi was more important but he couldn't even do it without Pele in 1954. Pele was still 13 anyway. Ofcos he was too young to help. ![]() Brazil won 1962 without Pele's impact which stopped at the 2nd game no thanks to Injury. Garrincha did in the KOs in 1962 exactly what Maradona did in the KOs for Argentina in 1986. Both recorded similar stats leading their nations to WC Glory. For 1962, I already clearly stated that it was mostly Garrincha but with Pele leading the way before his injury. For 1958 and 1970... it was Pele. And that is Undisputed. I don't have to speak too much again on 1970. You can even use Sofascore to help yourself. Didi and Jairzinho were not bigger influences in both campaigns. Pele was the Man. The Main Man. Till now, None greater or better have emerged. Pele is Undisputed. Johannes Cruyff, Ferenc Puskas, Franz Beckenbauer, Ronaldo, Zico, Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Fontaine, Platini, etc... have all testified to Pele's GOAT of GOATs status. Argentines like Cesar Luis Menotti, Hugo Gatti, Jorge Valdano (who played alongside Maradona) all say Pelé is incomparable, the most complete player in history and the greatest of all time. Now, to add more flavor to my point on Pele's undisputed status as the Carrier of his Brazilian Sides especially in 1958 and 1970, France Football singled him out for a Ballon Dor win in both those World Cup years... Check below. For 1962, it rightly went to Garrincha. In 1961, It was Pele which buttressed an earlier point made that Pele indeed came into the 1962 WC as the Undisputed Best in the World. But 1962 WC eventually became Garrincha's WC.... The Greateat Dribbler and Wing Wizard in football history. So in a nutshell.... 1954 - Didi and co played... No Pele... Brazil faltered. 1958 - Pele's first WC, Didi and Garrincha present but Pele was clearly the Main Talisman. 1962 - Pele came into the Tournament as the Undisputed Best Player on the planet but injury stopped him in Game 2 and Garrincha took over and clearly owned that World cup tournament. 1966 - Pele and Garrincha played the first game and scored. But Pele missed the 2nd game due to injury. Garrincha played that 2nd game and they lost. This was also Tostao's and Jairzinho's Debut WCs And in the 3rd game, hate it or despise it... Pele was kicked throughout the game and Portugal won. GARRINCHA DIDNT PLAY because HE WAS BLOODY DROPPED. There was also no substitutions back then in 1966 Check the fifa and Guardian articles below the Ballon dor graphics below this post. 1970 - Pele returns and He again was the Main Man. 1974 - No Pele. He has retired... Jairzinho, Rivellino and co couldn't do it. Below is also the summary of Pele's Dominant Years in Ballon Dor marks... Pele is Undisputed. Finito.... and do yourself some more reading on that era. You are again Welcome. ![]()
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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by solonnachi: 12:44am On Dec 17, 2022 |
ThanosKilla:Source please? Hope Eze is not whinnying us again? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ThanosKilla(m): 12:49am On Dec 17, 2022*. Modified: 1:05am On Dec 17, 2022 |
charlesemeka85:Yeah. Looks like Doherty played a role in convincing him. Doherty says he will officially announce very soon. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ThanosKilla(m): 12:53am On Dec 17, 2022 |
solonnachi:Check out Doherty's instagram page @teamnigeriauk3 or officialdoherty05 |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:54am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Lol... as a Messi Fanboy, it is okay not to agree. Messi is also a GOAT. Undisputed, that one. But you see, it's just that, Pele na the GOAT of GOATs. andrewbaba44: |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:56am On Dec 17, 2022 |
I am sorry but what you have said is untrue. VERY UNTRUE. BronzeTiger: |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:58am On Dec 17, 2022 |
You already know what I am. I don't have to keep repeating it. But thanks for the kind words. It is well noted. Philosopher1979: |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BronzeTiger: 1:15am On Dec 17, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd:I know you are one of the most intelligent posters in this thread and I can believe you when you bring several factual details because you take your time to get to the tunnels of it instead of impromptuly but don't you think with what messi has achieved outside the world cup him winning on Sunday will just crown everything all and end it. I mean he has even broken some of Pele 's records. I'm not saying Messi is a complete player like O Rei that could use both feet, was great in the air and was very creative while having a supreme eye for goal like you also noted in your post. I'm talking about their achievements and impact in the game. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:24am On Dec 17, 2022*. Modified: 2:28am On Dec 17, 2022 |
I have something for the bolded.... Here it is below: The offside rule was introduced since 1863/1883 and remade into a 2-player rule in 1925 (Pelé was born in 1940) and this 2-player rule actually inhibited attackers more until 1990, when FIFA changed the rule to mean that attacker level with the 2nd last defender were onside. Previously they were judged to be offside in Pele's era up until 1990. In a nutshell, the current offside rule favors players even more compared to Pele's time. BronzeTiger: |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:57am On Dec 17, 2022 |
My good man, Pele had 2 World Cup Wins by the age of 21. That is insane. He was also the best player in the world by miles at age 21 with a now officially confirmed throwback count of 4 Ballon Dor honors at that age going by France Football's awarding of that era based on non-restrictive criteria for the World best. Also today, only 20 players in history can boast of 2 WC wins ONLY. Mbappe, Giroud, Griezmann, and co could take that number higher if they take the title on sunday. But you see, Pele is the only man who has 3 and that will stay same after this WC is done no matter how that final goes. But yes, I get your angle but perhaps you forget that Pele also has achievements outside his 3 World Cup wins. For instance back then, Pele also won the Intercontinental Cup (that era's version of the Club World Cup) back then TWICE. They defeated the European Clubs Champs. That's just one example of several more. Yes, Messi has broken some of Pele's records but there are some that will never be broken. Messi winning the World cup will rather end the debate of the GOAT rivalry of his era between himself and Cristiano Ronaldo but will it be enough to place him over that Man called O rei... The man who was complete in everything in the game and has the achievements, as well, to back up his well rounded limitless abilities? Naaah... I honestly know it won't be enough. Even in Argentina alone, it would still be a debate for who's the greatest Argentine between Maradona and Messi even with a Messi WC Win. That's the truth. BronzeTiger: |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:19am On Dec 17, 2022 |
The 2006 Italian WC-winning legends giving Osimhen his flowers Filippo Inzaghi recently called him the Best Centre forward in World Football. Now Francesso Totti has termed him the Best Striker in Serie A. Note: Also, Pippo Inzaghi is coach of Reggina in Serie B where they sit second. Another 2006 WC winner, Fabio Grosso is also coach of Table-topping Serie B side, Frosinone. Yet another 2006 WC Winner, Alberto Gilardino is coach of 4th placed Serie B side, Genoa. These 2006 WC winning Italians know ball. ![]()
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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:28am On Dec 17, 2022 |
andrewbaba44:It always makes me laugh the way you take these things personally. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:20am On Dec 17, 2022 |
charlesemeka85:That's because he has a special skillsets we are lacking currently. He is our Midfield conductor, resistor and capacitor we have been looking for since. ![]() |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:21am On Dec 17, 2022 |
komekn:The bottom line is you also wrote long Epistles on this thread. That's the point. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:23am On Dec 17, 2022 |
mostob:That's not the bottom line that's your line. If anything beyond 50 words becomes a convoluted epistle , then you should find something that's within your comprehension level and not expose your limited capacity. The bottom line is you have limited attention capacity then again this is all light hearted comedic engagement. And you may find it just too long I do sometimes. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:27am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Philosopher1979: |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:38am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Philosopher1979:Your analytical objectivity and in depth led appraisals give you such contextual projection you highlight your outstanding intelligence. As can be seen in this post of yours albeit quite some time ago. And so your comments are a great value, ![]()
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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:47am On Dec 17, 2022 |
komekn:shey Eze don agree to play for Nigeria? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by solonnachi: 8:06am On Dec 17, 2022 |
ThanosKilla:Is this Doherty a representative of the NFF? For him to convince this prodigal son back home is surprising after Pinnick tried his best. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:51am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Tell Ebere Eze to fück off |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:52am On Dec 17, 2022 |
andrewbaba44:That belongs to Azzedine Ounahi |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:54am On Dec 17, 2022 |
ChrisKels:He won’t win it over someone with 4 goals |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 9:54am On Dec 17, 2022 |
The only reason Ebere Eze may make a u-turn and decide to play for us is because he knows that his chances of making the english team are next to nothing There's no loyalty in that and TBH, I am wary of such players |
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