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Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by Truvelisback(m): 7:26am On Dec 19, 2022
AntiChristian:
Allah is not a spirit like your God! Allah created the spirit/Soul! Allah is the Ever living! Allah never dies! Allah is one! One is one!
If Allah is not a Spirit, what is He then?
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 7:39am On Dec 19, 2022
AntiChristian:
Don't be dumb!

Allah is Ever living!
You were defining living according to biology a while ago, weren't you?
LOL!

AntiChristian:
There's no evidence to say it's alive or not!

The spirit that your God blew to Adam, was it living in itself?

Where is the Bible verse in Genesis that corroborates that?
Similarly, Are you also saying that there is no evidence that Allah is living or not?
How do you know that Allah is living? but there is no evidence that the spirit is LIVING!

If there is no EVIDENCE to show that a spirit is LIVING or NOT: and we know that Jubril is a spirit
Is Jubril ALIVE or NOT?
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 8:37am On Dec 19, 2022
TenQ:
You were defining living according to biology a while ago, weren't you?
LOL!


Similarly, Are you also saying that there is no evidence that Allah is living or not?
How do you know that Allah is living? but there is no evidence that the spirit is LIVING!

If there is no EVIDENCE to show that a spirit is LIVING or NOT: and we know that Jubril is a spirit
Is Jubril ALIVE or NOT?
Don't act blind!
There's evidence Allah called Himself Ever Living!
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 8:44am On Dec 19, 2022
TenQ:
All you need to do is to explain in your UNDERSTANDING what the scripture I quoted mean other that what it clearly says!
LOL!!


NOW Mr LegalWolf, Answer my Question please.
Do you think it is praiseworthy or portray you as smart when you avoid answering questions?
No!
It actually prove that you are at best IGNORANT!


Now that I've answered ALL your questions, will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions!
Have I not done that before?
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 8:54am On Dec 19, 2022
LegalWolf:
Have I not done that before?
Where? Oni'ro!
If truely you speak the TRUTH, post your response to the questions here!


NOW Mr LegalWolf, Answer my Question please.

Do you think it is praiseworthy or portray you as smart when you avoid answering questions?
[b]No!
It actually prove that you are at best IGNORANT!


Will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions![/i]
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 9:23am On Dec 19, 2022
AntiChristian:
Don't act blind!
There's evidence Allah called Himself Ever Living!
If there is no EVIDENCE to show that a spirit is LIVING or NOT: and we know that Jubril is a spirit
Is Jubril ALIVE or NOT?
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 9:35am On Dec 19, 2022
LOL! You want me to be like you but we can't. Neither are we stray humanoids like one random advocatejare like that.

TenQ:
Where? Oni'ro!
If truely you speak the TRUTH, post your response to the questions here!
So what was I explaining here?

LegalWolf:
Lol, you did not answer my question - for in him is completely different from he created something. Look at the biblical creation story in Genesis 1. Was the sky, water etc created through him or BY him? I’m concerned about BY not through Mr. Prosecution TenQ!

What about Holy Ghost fire!!!!! There’s no mention anywhere, or is there?
Ehn potential thief TenQ grin
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 9:41am On Dec 19, 2022
LegalWolf:
LOL! You want me to be like you but we can't. Neither are we stray humanoids like one random advocatejare like that.



So what was I explaining here?
Ehn potential thief TenQ grin
Where?
If truly you speak the TRUTH, post your response to the questions here!


NOW Mr LegalWolf, Answer my Question please.

Do you think it is praiseworthy or portray you as smart when you avoid answering questions?
[b]No!
It actually prove that you are at best IGNORANT!


Will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions![/i]
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by advocatejare(m): 10:11am On Dec 19, 2022
LegalWolf:
LOL! You want me to be like you but we can't. Neither are we stray humanoids like one random LegalWolf like that.

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 7:59pm On Dec 19, 2022
TenQ:
If there is no EVIDENCE to show that a spirit is LIVING or NOT: and we know that Jubril is a spirit
Is Jubril ALIVE or NOT?
Jubril is not a spirit!

If he's a spirit then he was the one blown into Adam and Mary right?
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by jaggabban: 8:55pm On Dec 19, 2022
TenQ:
Zakir Naik is one of the greatest liars of the bunch of Muslim apologist on YouTube.

He said:
A Muslim woman will also get his (like the Muslim men) "virgin boys" in paradise! It's on YouTube.

Do you agree with him?
1.Did you went to find out about Jesus or what? I tot u are to come back here and prove him wrong. Haha ur mouth was shut and I know as a black man, u will force urself to tell urself not to believe, even though u know he is right.

2. Out of all his lies, u could only pick one which I'm 1million % sure he wouldn't have said that or u quote him out of context which is what xtians or kafiroons all do. Funny. Prove me wrong he said that by telling me the title of the video and the minute he said that. I'm sure u will never tell me because he never said that.

3. Non of the great scholars of ur religion has ever and will never win Zakir on debate. He has prove that xtianity is not God's religion using both bible and Qur'an logically and not quoting any of the books out of context like u guys. Infact, nobody on this planet earth knows bible more than him.

4. Both I and u will just be beating around the bush because we are not knowledgeable, infact u will be quoting rubbish and out of context. Xtianity is a fraud. I laff when I see xtians believing blindly. Though I can't quote Qur'an or bible, I have seen a lot of videos from both religion establishing the true one and that is why I still remain a Muslim. Now, I'm a Muslim by choice not by birth. Can't u see how white guys who brought xtianity to ur door step reverting to Islam? But as a black man, u will not even after finding out the truth.

5. For anybody that will be quoting Qur'an out of context here, I will refer u to Zakir. Pls go ND watch his debates with xtian scholars and find out about how xtianity is a fraud. Pls no vex, na true.

6. I will be waiting to get the video name where he said females will get 1 million virgins cheesy
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 8:56pm On Dec 19, 2022
AntiChristian:
Jubril is not a spirit!

If he's a spirit then he was the one blown into Adam and Mary right?
I am glad you too are seeing how the logic of Islam breaks down with little probings with questions.

You said:
"If he's a spirit then he was the one blown into Adam and Mary right?"

Which is a good observation that I would have slammed on you.

Now, can you explain HOW Jubril is NOT a Spirit YET you Muslims unanimously call him Ruh Al-qudus (Holy spirit)?


Also, can you explain HOW Jubril is NOT a Spirit YET you Muslims unanimously call him Ar-Ruh Al-amin (the faithful/trustworthy spirit)?


Over to you sir!
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 9:09pm On Dec 19, 2022
TenQ:
I am glad you too are seeing how the logic of Islam breaks down with little probings with questions.

You said:
"If he's a spirit then he was the one blown into Adam and Mary right?"

Which is a good observation that I would have slammed on you.

Now, can you explain HOW Jubril is NOT a Spirit YET you Muslims unanimously call him Ruh Al-qudus (Holy spirit)?


Also, can you explain HOW Jubril is NOT a Spirit YET you Muslims unanimously call him Ar-Ruh Al-amin (the faithful/trustworthy spirit)?


Over to you sir!
This is simple!

Those names are for Jubril!

Ruh ordinarily means soul = spirit!

It can also mean Gabriel or another Angel!
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 9:10pm On Dec 19, 2022
jaggabban:
1.Did you went to find out about Jesus or what? I tot u are to come back here and prove him wrong. Haha ur mouth was shut and I know as a black man, u will force urself to tell urself not to believe, even though u know he is right.

2. Out of all his lies, u could only pick one which I'm 1million % sure he wouldn't have said that or u quote him out of context which is what xtians or kafiroons all do. Funny. Prove me wrong he said that by telling me the title of the video and the minute he said that. I'm sure u will never tell me because he never said that.

3. Non of the great scholars of ur religion has ever and will never win Zakir on debate. He has prove that xtianity is not God's religion using both bible and Qur'an logically and not quoting any of the books out of context like u guys. Infact, nobody on this planet earth knows bible more than him.

4. Both I and u will just be beating around the bush because we are not knowledgeable, infact u will be quoting rubbish and out of context. Xtianity is a fraud. I laff when I see xtians believing blindly. Though I can't quote Qur'an or bible, I have seen a lot of videos from both religion establishing the true one and that is why I still remain a Muslim. Now, I'm a Muslim by choice not by birth. Can't u see how white guys who brought xtianity to ur door step reverting to Islam? But as a black man, u will not even after finding out the truth.

5. For anybody that will be quoting Qur'an out of context here, I will refer u to Zakir. Pls go ND watch his debates with xtian scholars and find out about how xtianity is a fraud. Pls no vex, na true.

6. I will be waiting to get the video name where he said females will get 1 million virgins cheesy
Both men and women will get their own houris!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P0Y_lzslSk#bottom-sheet

Do you believe that women in paradise will have their own perpetual male virgins too ?
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 9:47pm On Dec 19, 2022
AntiChristian:
This is simple!

Those names are for Jubril!

Ruh ordinarily means soul = spirit!

It can also mean Gabriel or another Angel!
Antichristian,
You don't have to win an argument with illogical and untrue statements. This has been your worst Taqqiyya till date. It is not a crime not to know an answer to a question

1. If Jubril is NOT a Spirit, why is he called the Holy spirit by Muslims?

2. Can you post a few translations of the Qur'an where Jubril is called a Holy Soul or Trustworthy Soul and not Holy Spirit and trustworthy spirit respectively?

The message is passed brother Antichristian! It's not about winning an argument. Let's put this case to rest.
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 10:23pm On Dec 19, 2022
jaggabban:
1.Did you went to find out about Jesus or what? I tot u are to come back here and prove him wrong. Haha ur mouth was shut and I know as a black man, u will force urself to tell urself not to believe, even though u know he is right.

2. Out of all his lies, u could only pick one which I'm 1million % sure he wouldn't have said that or u quote him out of context which is what xtians or kafiroons all do. Funny. Prove me wrong he said that by telling me the title of the video and the minute he said that. I'm sure u will never tell me because he never said that.

3. Non of the great scholars of ur religion has ever and will never win Zakir on debate. He has prove that xtianity is not God's religion using both bible and Qur'an logically and not quoting any of the books out of context like u guys. Infact, nobody on this planet earth knows bible more than him.

4. Both I and u will just be beating around the bush because we are not knowledgeable, infact u will be quoting rubbish and out of context. Xtianity is a fraud. I laff when I see xtians believing blindly. Though I can't quote Qur'an or bible, I have seen a lot of videos from both religion establishing the true one and that is why I still remain a Muslim. Now, I'm a Muslim by choice not by birth. Can't u see how white guys who brought xtianity to ur door step reverting to Islam? But as a black man, u will not even after finding out the truth.

5. For anybody that will be quoting Qur'an out of context here, I will refer u to Zakir. Pls go ND watch his debates with xtian scholars and find out about how xtianity is a fraud. Pls no vex, na true.

6. I will be waiting to get the video name where he said females will get 1 million virgins cheesy
I would have appreciated it if you can get Zakir Naik on Nairaland and I will be willing to Engage him. LOL!!

BUT BEFORE THEN,
Check out the following topic/posts and tell me if what I posted was true or not>

https://www.nairaland.com/tenq/topics

Extracts:
https://www.nairaland.com/7447990/mohammed-only-prophet-ever-accused

https://www.nairaland.com/7428751/how-allah-created-christianity

https://www.nairaland.com/7462225/allahs-shameful-command-prostitution-muslims
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 6:52am On Dec 20, 2022
TenQ:
Antichristian,
You don't have to win an argument with illogical and untrue statements. This has been your worst Taqqiyya till date. It is not a crime not to know an answer to a question

1. If Jubril is NOT a Spirit, why is he called the Holy spirit by Muslims?

2. Can you post a few translations of the Qur'an where Jubril is called a Holy Soul or Trustworthy Soul and not Holy Spirit and trustworthy spirit respectively?

The message is passed brother Antichristian! It's not about winning an argument. Let's put this case to rest.
I didn't start the argument! You did! But all in all you haven't brought anything about how God created spirit and soul differently for Adam! Apparently you can't even find any verse for such!

Jesus was also call many names!
Same as Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam and others!

It doesn't change them for who they are!

Jesus and Adam were spirit from Allah!
Angel Gabriel too is the holy spirit!

It is translated from Arabic and does not confirm to you English translational usage.

Secondly, you bother about translations and compare the Qu'ran with the Bible!
This is where your error emanates from.

In human creation, the Arabic word Ruh means soul!

This i have stated many times! No translator will use soul except in creation

Sahih International: And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul (Ruh). Say, "The soul (Ruh) is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little." Qu'ran 17:85

Shakir: And they ask you about the soul (Ruh). Say: The soul (Ruh) is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little. Qu'ran 17:85
Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op):
It seems that your best translators agree with me! Ruh is Spirit and not Soul!

Qu'ran 17:85
YUSUF ALI
They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: “The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)”

ABUL ALA MAUDUDI
They ask you about “the spirit” . Say: “The spirit descends by the command of my Lord, but you have been given only a little knowledge.”

MUHSIN KHAN
And they ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning the Ruh (the Spirit); Say: “The Ruh (the Spirit): it is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you (mankind) have been given only a little.”

PICKTHALL
They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little.

DR. GHALI
And they ask you about the Spirit. Say, “The Spirit is of the Command of my Lord; and in no way have you been brought of knowledge except a little.”

ABDEL HALEEM
[Prophet], they ask you about the Spirit. Say, ‘The Spirit is part of my Lord’s domain. You have only been given a little knowledge.’

AntiChristian:
I didn't start the argument! You did! But all in all you haven't brought anything about how God created spirit and soul differently for Adam! Apparently you can't even find any verse for such!

Jesus was also call many names!
Same as Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam and others!

It doesn't change them for who they are!

Jesus and Adam were spirit from Allah!
Angel Gabriel too is the holy spirit!

It is translated from Arabic and does not confirm to you English translational usage.

Secondly, you bother about translations and compare the Qu'ran with the Bible!
This is where your error emanates from.

In human creation, the Arabic word Ruh means soul!

This i have stated many times! No translator will use soul except in creation

Sahih International: And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul (Ruh). Say, "The soul (Ruh) is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little." Qu'ran 17:85

Shakir: And they ask you about the soul (Ruh). Say: The soul (Ruh) is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little. Qu'ran 17:85
AntiChristian:
I didn't start the argument! You did! But all in all you haven't brought anything about how God created spirit and soul differently for Adam! Apparently you can't even find any verse for such!

Jesus was also call many names!
Same as Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam and others!

It doesn't change them for who they are!

Jesus and Adam were spirit from Allah!
Angel Gabriel too is the holy spirit!

It is translated from Arabic and does not confirm to you English translational usage.

Secondly, you bother about translations and compare the Qu'ran with the Bible!
This is where your error emanates from.

In human creation, the Arabic word Ruh means soul!

This i have stated many times! No translator will use soul except in creation

Sahih International: And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul (Ruh). Say, "The soul (Ruh) is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little." Qu'ran 17:85

Shakir: And they ask you about the soul (Ruh). Say: The soul (Ruh) is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little. Qu'ran 17:85
How can we trust the Quran when titles are not TRUE!
Rasūl'Allāh
Ḥabīb Allāh
Al-Ḥabīb
Using your logic, How can you convince me that the three titles of Mohammed is TRUE?
You know what you have done, you've explicitly said that : Jubril is NOT a SPIRIT
So, therefore,
1. Can you post a single Tafsir that explain that Jubril is NOT a spirit !?
2. Can you post a single Tafsir that explain that Jubril is just a soul !?
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