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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 5:22pm On Dec 18, 2022
shortgun:

Everything written in that "old book" thousands of years ago is what your scientists are "discovering" today.
Just as it's written in the Bible "a fool says in his heart there's no God"

It's funny how you lots claim there's no God when you have limited knowledge about the world and how it works......you are yet to even explore 80% of the oceans for instance.
Do you draw conclusion based on limited knowledge about something?
A rational being will ponder over the numerous scientifically unexplainable events happening in the world and conclude that God exists!
Same way the Aztecs pondered and arrived at the conclusion that Huītzilōpōchtli is the owner of the skies and sends lightning. Now hundreds of years later, folks in Nigeria still think that stuff they can't understand was made by some gods.
Your education was a waste of time and money

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 5:23pm On Dec 18, 2022
kingxsamz:


So what if you had an accident and had your legs amputated, would your legs grow back if you prayed?
Now that's a question theists don't answer. They usually dodge this
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 6:19pm On Dec 18, 2022
jaephoenix:

Trash. I'm a physician and haven't noticed any miracles. I don't know what people told you. What i have experienced is people praying for sick people and nothing happening. And the prayers are worse by this time during Sunday evenings. This is the time many hospitals are flooded with prayer warriors and they end up pissing the nurses with the visits
Trash. I mentioned true christians which are scarce as the wee of a mosquito. Im suprised youve not encountered one possibly you work in one of those hospitals in idanre village.
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by shortgun(m): 6:26pm On Dec 18, 2022
jaephoenix:

Same way the Aztecs pondered and arrived at the conclusion that Huītzilōpōchtli is the owner of the skies and sends lightning. Now hundreds of years later, folks in Nigeria still think that stuff they can't understand was made by some gods.
Your education was a waste of time and money
truly troubling how many people think they’re reasonable....
Well,u are doing alright for someone whose ancestors are Apes
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by LordReed(m): 6:39pm On Dec 18, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Trash. I mentioned true christians which are scarce as the wee of a mosquito. Im suprised youve not encountered one possibly you work in one of those hospitals in idanre village.

So a true Christian can pray for an amputated limb to grow back and it would happen?
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 7:03pm On Dec 18, 2022
LordReed:


So a true Christian can pray for an amputated limb to grow back and it would happen?
Didnt say that but it all depends on the level of faith. Many faith are weak due to the great level of hypocrites flaunting to be christians

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by LordReed(m): 7:10pm On Dec 18, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Didnt say that but it all depends on the level of faith. Many faith are weak due to the great level of hypocrites flaunting to be christians

Do you know anyone whose amputed limbs were prayed for by a true Christian and it grew back?

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 7:21pm On Dec 18, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Trash. I mentioned true christians which are scarce as the wee of a mosquito. Im suprised youve not encountered one possibly you work in one of those hospitals in idanre village.
Lol. I'm in Lagos, bro. Actually one of the biggest. So yes I see lots of cases
It amuses me that on Sundays like today, Christians would flood the hospital right during church service or after church, with all manner of emergencies. Just managed a woman with heart attack right in church. I managed to ask one of them why he's coming to the hospital when he could easily get his supernatural healing right there at church. Dude was angry. I just shook my head

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 7:22pm On Dec 18, 2022
shortgun:

truly troubling how many people think they’re reasonable....
Well,u are doing alright for someone whose ancestors are Apes
Actually, you still have your tail as you're typing this trash. Can you wag it for me, bro? grin
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 7:23pm On Dec 18, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Didnt say that but it all depends on the level of faith. Many faith are weak due to the great level of hypocrites flaunting to be christians
So are you saying no Christian has a high level of faith, because we haven't seen any amputees healed yet cheesy

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 7:53pm On Dec 18, 2022
jaephoenix:

So are you saying no Christian has a high level of faith, because we haven't seen any amputees healed yet cheesy
I have not seen. Miracle works with faith. But its possible cos christ said if we believe, we will do more than him.
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 7:57pm On Dec 18, 2022
jaephoenix:

Lol. I'm in Lagos, bro. Actually one of the biggest. So yes I see lots of cases
It amuses me that on Sundays like today, Christians would flood the hospital right during church service or after church, with all manner of emergencies. Just managed a woman with heart attack right in church. I managed to ask one of them why he's coming to the hospital when he could easily get his supernatural healing right there at church. Dude was angry. I just shook my head
Dont mix file with fali, many that run up and down shouting are not true christians. True christians are so scarce tha they are hardly noticed but when you encounter one. You see power
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 9:11pm On Dec 18, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I have not seen. Miracle works with faith. But its possible cos christ said if we believe, we will do more than him.
So you're saying its possible for the billions of christians in the world not to have a true believer?
Interesting

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 9:12pm On Dec 18, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Dont mix file with fali, many that run up and down shouting are not true christians. True christians are so scarce tha they are hardly noticed but when you encounter one. You see power
I hope you know youre indicting all the MoGs in the world.
So you have no idea where such true Christians are?

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by traihit: 11:12pm On Dec 18, 2022
Creamcrest:
A carnally minded man cannot understand the things of the spirit.

Life is spiritual.

We know you're seeking for attention but continue.

You should leave these guys alone. Like I said in a similar thread, most Christians including me, don't have time for people like this anymore.

Let them keep living their own reality. If they accept, fine. If not, they're on their own.

He's worried that miracles might be true. He wouldn't want to bring himself to accept that. He has to bring up logical arguments to support his view. Then he comes to Nairaland to prove that his point had been correct all along.

I don't serve God to prove a point to anyone. I no longer serve God to avoid going to hell. I serve God because he fulfils the yearnings of my heart. I serve God because I find completeness in him. You can't convince someone into these experiences, you can only pray they experience it.

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by LordReed(m): 12:57am On Dec 19, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I have not seen. Miracle works with faith. But its possible cos christ said if we believe, we will do more than him.

Why are your so called true Christians not having the enough faith?

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 1:29am On Dec 19, 2022
LordReed:


Why are your so called true Christians not having the enough faith?
So they can avoid healing amputees. Simples

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by LordReed(m): 9:11am On Dec 19, 2022
traihit:


You should leave these guys alone. Like I said in a similar thread, most Christians including me, don't have time for people like this anymore.

Let them keep living their own reality. If they accept, fine. If not, they're on their own.

He's worried that miracles might be true. He wouldn't want to bring himself to accept that. He has to bring up logical arguments to support his view. Then he comes to Nairaland to prove that his point had been correct all along.

I don't serve God to prove a point to anyone. I no longer serve God to avoid going to hell. I serve God because he fulfils the yearnings of my heart. I serve God because I find completeness in him. You can't convince someone into these experiences, you can only pray they experience it.

LoLz. The Bible literally enjoins the opposite but that's the thing about religion, you can make up any story you like and call it divinely sanctioned.
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 2:10pm On Dec 19, 2022
LordReed:


Why are your so called true Christians not having the enough faith?
Faith is one thing that struggles to defeat the flesh coupled with this decayed generation. Even when the world was still easy, peter told Christ to help his faith.
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 2:13pm On Dec 19, 2022
jaephoenix:

I hope you know youre indicting all the MoGs in the world.
So you have no idea where such true Christians are?
You said so because you dont understand the principles. True christians are scattered all over the earth and are few. It has no correlation with church. Its personal and individual. It doesnt correlate with being a so called man of god
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 2:20pm On Dec 19, 2022
jaephoenix:

So you're saying its possible for the billions of christians in the world not to have a true believer?
Interesting
understand it. True christians are scarce and scattered abroad the earth. They are not lousy so you may be close to one and not know. Only empty barrels make noise. It has nothing to do with ministers. In the olden days. Some were ministers with power but these days due to corruption in the world, they steer clear and calm, some might be a church member while some dont even see a church to fit in depending on location and proximity.
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by LordReed(m): 2:23pm On Dec 19, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Faith is one thing that struggles to defeat the flesh coupled with this decayed generation. Even when the world was still easy, peter told Christ to help his faith.

The story doesn't even say Jesus restored an amputees limb so I dunno how you reasoning this thing.
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 3:22pm On Dec 19, 2022
LordReed:


The story doesn't even say Jesus restored an amputees limb so I dunno how you reasoning this thing.
I never said that. You did
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by LordReed(m): 3:48pm On Dec 19, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I never said that. You did

Said what?
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 5:05pm On Dec 19, 2022
LordReed:


Said what?
Amputee finger bla bla bla.. I only said miracles are real and done by true christians (saints).
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by LordReed(m): 5:38pm On Dec 19, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Amputee finger bla bla bla.. I only said miracles are real and done by true christians (saints).

LoLz. What I wrote is still there and you can't even quote it accurately? I only asked you questions so I dunno what you think I said.
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 3:48am On Dec 20, 2022
Lighthouse50:
You said so because you dont understand the principles. True christians are scattered all over the earth and are few. It has no correlation with church. Its personal and individual. It doesnt correlate with being a so called man of god
So when it comes to miracles, just about any Christian gets healed. But when it comes to amputee limb regeneration, the story changes to only very few elite 'true christians' which gets more interesting cos we don't see any amputee limb regrow. Which means there are no true christians because we don't see any limb regeneration. Or do u have any limb regeneration videos for us?
By the way, why don't we see afflicted popular christians celebrities like Yinka Afeleye or Cobham Asuquo healed? Is it only unknown peeps that get all the goodies from the good Lord? Doesn't it sound strange? If you start yammering about faith, I'll quickly remind you that your Jesus said even if your faith is as tiny as a mustard seed, you'll be healed. I believe that was the tiniest fraction of a particle those goat herders that wrote the Bible could fathom.

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 3:50am On Dec 20, 2022
Lighthouse50:
understand it. True christians are scarce and scattered abroad the earth. They are not lousy so you may be close to one and not know. Only empty barrels make noise. It has nothing to do with ministers. In the olden days. Some were ministers with power but these days due to corruption in the world, they steer clear and calm, some might be a church member while some dont even see a church to fit in depending on location and proximity.
We're still saying the same thing. Youre indicting all the MoGs by saying they aint true christians. But you forget in your haste to defend christianity that theyre the ones performing those 'miracles'

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by jaephoenix(m): 3:52am On Dec 20, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Amputee finger bla bla bla.. I only said miracles are real and done by true christians (saints).
Are you saying non christians can't get healed?

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Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:56am On Dec 20, 2022
Miracles are REAL and it still happens today but the faithless generation of churchgoers are thinking God must give them signs before they can trust in Him.
YES you can't see it happen when God doesn't have any business with you for He is not doing the unbelievable for the faithless rather He does everything to save the faithful.
Smarter athiests are using the church business to extort money from gullible people with tricks telling them that is miracles but nobody can convince the true God to perform miracles just because you want all eyes on you.

That's what misinformed Churchgoers don't know, in the midst of God's people "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" lots of miracles do happen but we don't publicize it because that's not what we were sent to tell or show you! wink
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Nobody: 9:52am On Dec 20, 2022
traihit:

I don't serve God to prove a point to anyone. I no longer serve God to avoid going to hell. I serve God because he fulfils the yearnings of my heart. I serve God because I find completeness in him. You can't convince someone into these experiences, you can only pray they experience it.

I love this
Re: Miracles Are Fake, Christians Lie And Deceive Themselves About Miracles by Lighthouse50: 10:38am On Dec 20, 2022
jaephoenix:

Are you saying non christians can't get healed?
true christians (saints) are the representative to the healer (GOD) Anyone who have faith can be healed.

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