Talawaka:


At no point did I suggest your comments conveyed hatred.
If anything, I simply pointed out why it is wrong to impugn other ethnic groups are somehow inferior to the Yoruba.

Moving on, let me ask you this: when did it become characteristic of the Yoruba to indulge in needless chest-thumping?
Or how else does one view your claim that "Yoruba culture is the strongest in Africa"?
Is that part of the Omoluabi ethos? Or is this a new refrain that helps the lily-livered achieve some kind of natural high?

Don't be insulted. We yoruba largely are not boastful. We just want to make money and spend it.

yorubarere:

Myself I am a liberal yoruba. But you went sneaky on us. That we are liberal doesn't mean we are stupid not to know when someone is trying to massage our ego to rob us. Why will you say some tribes are laying claims to lagos? Who are the tribes? Who are the ones trying to control it economically? Mention them.

And your usage of the phrase "yoruba dominated" sold you off in the first instance. And it took a lot of calling you out before you admitted to it.

Pls next time don't try to play such games.

Most of us Nigerians don't know how to do call out on something we feel is erroneous. Even when that (sneaky) wasn't my intention in the beginning, I then had to delay clarification and apology because of the insults and manner by which our people called me out on that.

Is there not economic competition in Lagos, sir? Yet which ethnicity is clearly still dominating?

Is there no tribe laying claim to Lagos historically? Yet which ethnicity is winning the historical battle?

Haven't a political figure tried to wrestle power from ACN/APC in the past and promised a certain ethnicity some political influence in Lagos State if voted for? What do you think will happen if he succeed?

See boss, I avoided mention any ethnicity and these points to prevent tribal war or being accused of stoking one.

It's not fair to continue doing this after I had explained and apologized.

yorubarere:

You saw it too. Maybe he tot we won't see his insults with the sugarcoated words. We are humble but that doesn't mean we are low self esteem individuals that could be fooled with mere words.

He is a sly and very sneaky which makes him more dangerous than his kins that shows their hate upfront.

Many of them are like that, they could use 3month on nairaland promoting Yoruba and SW course just only to infiltrate and then strike so it would appear they are saying the truth.

I don't know maybe that's the new strategy from IPOB.

Omo Yoruba, a masun asunpara, awon arabi, nwole siwa lara

Ttalk:


You are a sneaky lair and a bigot and hate filled individual who go about hating and demeaning a race that is better than you.

Your obsession with anything Yoruba will continue to hunt you. In your usual hateful approach, you are in this thread to instigate your disdain hatred hoping you will see your ethnic brothers that would fan it but you met your Waterloo and you have no option than to feign innocent.

You are nothing but a sly

Below are your hateful comments against Yoruba

I was trolling on that thread as I had done on some others in the past. It doesn't mean I cannot be serious whenever I want to.

Justmesagi:
Most of us Nigerians don't know how to do call out on something we feel is erroneous. Even when that (sneaky) wasn't my intention in the beginning, I then had to delay clarification and apology because of the insults and manner by which our people called me out on that.

Is there not economic competition in Lagos, sir? Yet which ethnicity is clearly still dominating?

Is there no tribe laying claim to Lagos historically? Yet which ethnicity is winning the historical battle?

Haven't a political figure tried to wrestle power from ACN/APC in the past and promised a certain ethnicity some political influence in Lagos State if voted for? What do you think will happen if he succeed?

See boss, I avoided mention any ethnicity and these points to prevent tribal war or being accused of stoking one.

It's not fair to continue doing this after I had explained and apologized.

We know who you are, stop disguising.

This is one of your tribal post

Justmesagi:
Most of us Nigerians don't know how to do call out on something we feel is erroneous. Even when that (sneaky) wasn't my intention in the beginning, I then had to delay clarification and apology because of the insults and manner by which our people called me out on that.

Is there not economic competition in Lagos, sir? Yet which ethnicity is clearly still dominating?

Is there no tribe laying claim to Lagos historically? Yet which ethnicity is winning the historical battle?

Haven't a political figure tried to wrestle power from ACN/APC in the past and promised a certain ethnicity some political influence in Lagos State if voted for? What do you think will happen if he succeed?

See boss, I avoided mention any ethnicity and these points to prevent tribal war or being accused of stoking one.

It's not fair to continue doing this after I had explained and apologized.

Okay then. But what do you have to say about the screenshot where you were saying lagos and ogun yoruba are fake? That was also an honest mistake?

Yoruba are not the tribe to play tricks with. We are the boss there but we hardly do except some people are trying to claim over wiseness.

Justmesagi:
I was trolling on that thread as I had done on some others in the past. It doesn't mean I cannot be serious whenever I want to.

Oh, you were trolling a whole tribe, not even individual or on political matters. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Truly you are more dangerous than the trollers

Ttalk:


Many of them are like that, they could use 3month on nairaland promoting Yoruba and SW course just only to infiltrate and then strike so it would appear they are saying the truth.

I don't know maybe that's the new strategy from IPOB.

Omo Yoruba, a masun asunpara, awon arabi, nwole siwa lara

@bolded, they will still fail. Fulani smart pass them but they had to give up. Yoruba lo ni ete. Na we get tricks. That we seldom use it doesn't mean we are not capable of it.

Magnoliaa:


Lotta sense in here.

True. There's nothing bad with liberalism and progressiveness.

Most of the guys arguing on this thread sef are Tinupoo's supporters (and 8ful redpillarz as well). They are very tribalistic to the core, and I nor dey see eye to eye with them on a norm, so don't mind them.

Being proud as a Yoruba and defending the tribe's honour does not warrant you s******g on someone or another culture.

Thanks. I understand them though because I had been a tribalistic troll myself in the past. Nairaland has a way of changing somebody to meanie when you login especially politics section. I apologise for that Sha.

yorubarere:

Okay then. But what do you have to say about the screenshot where you were saying lagos and ogun yoruba are fake? That was also an honest mistake?

Yoruba are not the tribe to play tricks with. We are the boss there but we hardly do except some people are trying to claim over wiseness.

Boss, I am not even Igbo, honestly. You know some of these yeye battle we do on Nairaland, some of us stupidly do it for fun. Think about it, how can a sane person say Ogun or Lagos is not Yorubaland?

I was just trying to get back at them with that, believe me.

Justmesagi:
Thanks. I understand them though because I had been a tribalistic troll myself in the past. Nairaland has a way of changing somebody to meanie when you login especially politics section. I apologise for that Sha.

Keep shut, genuine trollers does it on political matters, at worst attack individuals, but seeing someone on neural thread trolling a whole region is a reflect of the inner thought of the person.

You hate Yoruba people despite living with them and you have used every available opportunity on Nairaland to express such hateful sentiment.

You are not different from the rest of your hateful brothers

Justmesagi:
Boss, I am not even Igbo, honestly. You know some of these yeye battle we do on Nairaland, some of us stupidly do it for fun. Think about it, how can a sane person say Ogun or Lagos is not Yorubaland?

I was just trying to get back at them with that, believe me.

Then claim Yoruba na.

Ttalk:


Then claim Yoruba na.

He is definitely not a Yoruba or a northerner. But whoever he is, he should stop the childish game. We could see through it.

Magnoliaa:
Oh.

I would think you actually provided facts and figures to back up your own contrarian claims and you weren't just depending on rhetorics to counter him.

^^^
I see.

The burden of proof doesn't lie on my admittedly frail shoulders. The fellow I quoted made an allegation of sorts. It is up to him to prove it.

Magnoliaa:
The Yoruba culture is (becoming) a popular (pop) culture, and that was his point.

^^^
No, that was not his point.

The man can speak for himself Are you his minder?

If he had used your words (in bold font above) we wouldn't be having this argument. He would have had some wiggle room at least. Instead, the man made some bombastic claims about how Yoruba is fast becoming the medium of communication, social interaction, entertainment, culture, literature and social currency (whatever that means).

In other words, Armaggedon cometh soon for all non-yoruba speakers - they will not be able to buy or sell and a lonely, painful death is inevitable. Which is utter nonsense of course. These claims were begging to be challenged and they have been challenged. That's all.

Magnoliaa:
Admitting that does not take away from the fact that other cultures exist in Nigeria or that they are just getting by.

^^^


Other cultures in Nigeria are not 'just' getting by. They are getting by. Period. They are getting an education, getting jobs, getting married, giving birth etc. Yes, times are hard for most Nigerians but is any ethnicity excluded from the hardship? Of course not. People are living their lives - and if they are only just getting by, this is a problem that cuts across all of Nigeria's cultures. Your acceptance or dismissal of this reality is irrelevant.

Magnoliaa:
Everything he claims about the Yoruba language is true when it comes to the popular culture and entertainment scene.

^^^
Then he should have restricted those claims to pop culture. Simple.

Magnoliaa:
Brotherhood, Citation, A Naija Christmas, Anikulapo, Agesinkole, Eleshin Oba, Far From Home, Sugar Rush, Chief Daddy, Blood Sisters, Glamour Girls ... all these and more have a predominantly Yoruba cast and creators.

^^^


Okay...I'm not sure what to do with this information. I'm not a big fan of movies.

Magnoliaa:

Major musicians and the up-and-coming ones too are Yoruba...and they use the language in their songs that people across States in Nigeria listen to. From Wizkid to David to Burna Boy, Kizz Daniel, Rema, Fireboy, Tems, Joeboy

^^^
Seen

Magnoliaa:
Other tribes are trying to follow suit with the 'aso-ebi' and 'owambe' trend.

^^^

First of all, avoid the use of the term 'tribe' in describing your ethnicity and the ethnicity of your fellow Africans. That term is loaded and you know it.

Second, I do not personally know anyone who is trying to follow the 'owambe trend' as you call it. You may want to explain further. The overwhelming majority of references to 'owambe' I have heard personally are not complimentary.

Third, the 'aso-ebi' phenomenon is not unique to Yoruba and I know some cultures that have practiced it as far back as i can remember. It is not a new thing. Was it pioneered by Yoruba? I honestly do not know. I'll have to do further research on this.

Magnoliaa:

So many little phrases and question tags like 'pele', 'sha', 'abi', 'na' 'ni', etc., all comes from Yoruba.

^^^

And your point is?

I don't know anyone in Kaura Namoda, Gwer West, or Funtua who uses these phrases. You may not like or believe it but it is what it is.

Magnoliaa:

I am not arguing to win or to be right about anything, and I won't make baselessly unrealistic claims about its influence.

^^^
No.

The above in bold font is exactly what plaindealer did. I called him out on it and you chose to defend the indefensible. Which is fine - just be honest about it.

Magnoliaa:

It's one thing to admit that there are other widely spoken languages that represent or will represent Nigeria, but going so far as Jukun and the rest?

Really?

Oya, if you believe so, may be you too should show me the facts you've seen that made you confidently claim those other languages (with the exception of Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa) will be the future of Nigeria.

^^^


You need to go over that post again.

TakeNigeriaBack:


Go and watch the Netflix documentary 'bigger than Africa.' That was the movie to opened my eyes about the strength of the culture of Yoruba people. Basically, the documentar showed that when the Yoruba slaves arrived,they were able to organize the slaves the met in the America around the Yoruba traditions. I will advice you watch the documentary.

^^^
Ok. I will investigate this.

plaindealer:




Nigerian kids wear uniforms, period, however, they wear their uniforms for posters is irrelevant, it's a TV show and a made-for-TV drama.

It's even funny how you have so much to say and condemn over a TV show that you haven't watched and won't watch.

Until you've taken out time to watch the show, you are in no position to render any ill-informed judgment.

Hollywood wannabees is your own opinion, even going by your Hollywood wannabees comment, if that's the case, nearly all our movies and shows are Hollywood wannabees.

Makes no sense.

Is that what Nigerian school kids uniform looks like? Why are they dressed like British/South African kids?

You can't use a TV show as a pointer to yoruba culture.when the show is making Nigerians something they are aren't. Very fake and unrealistic. I don't need to watch, the reviews, trailer and poster is enough for me.

Fujiyama:
^^^
I see.

The burden of proof doesn't lie on my admittedly frail shoulders. The fellow I quoted made an allegation of sorts. It is up to him to prove it.

Okay. So you're disagreeing NOT because you know better or you have the facts.

Do well not to phrase your disagreements as 'statements of facts' hence.

A person who doesn't know and is trying to inquire like you, supposedly, would not go about with the kind of expressions you're making...

^^^
No, that was not his point.

The man can speak for himself Are you his minder?

That is very much his point.

You're just choosing to be stressing over words. Resulting in an 'artificial miscommunication'...

If he had used your words (in bold font above) we wouldn't be having this argument. He would have had some wiggle room at least. Instead, the man made some bombastic claims about how Yoruba is fast becoming the medium of communication, social interaction, entertainment, culture, literature and social currency (whatever that means).

Not that I really give a shit about the person whom you were arguing with, but consider this as me taking up the mantle now... . We're having a discussion branching off of the points he has made.

In other words, Armaggedon cometh soon for all non-yoruba speakers - they will not be able to buy or sell and a lonely, painful death is inevitable. Which is utter nonsense of course. These claims were begging to be challenged and they have been challenged. That's all.

Armageddon? Painful death? Your interpretation.

Even at that. Don't be theatrical.

You made up a bogus issue and then claim to unravel the issue?

Haha. Brilliant. Not.

^^^


Other cultures in Nigeria are not 'just' getting by. They are getting by. Period.

Kaiiii.

'Just' is your issue now?

Motigbo.

Pop cultures exists within a larger culture sha. Glad we're cleared on that.

Yes, times are hard for most Nigerians but is any ethnicity excluded from the hardship?

I never ever ever ever have not did not impossibly *inserts all negative tags imaginable* mention hardship.

Not for once in this convo.

Stop setting up strawmen.

Okay...I'm not sure what to do with this information. I'm not a big fan of movies.

I am telling you that these are pop movies. Hit movies in the country. And some even have a larger African audience. Plus international appeal.

They are championed by Yorubas.

Go and look at Naija movies on Netflix for yourself. Even the English movies are represented by Yoruba actors.

Oh, I also remember Lionheart. Ehen. That's another predominantly Igbo movie I can point to. And this is me being objective. See as I am mentioning these ones, just to show you that I am not unfairly biased towards Igbo-centric movies.

Before I can think of a major Igbo movie with a nationwide acceptance in the current Nigerian entertainment scene, like 20 Yoruba ones would have popped into my head.

This has been about popular culture. So don't go all "what should I do with this" with me?

You should have your facts about whatever conversation you'll be getting in.

It was necessary for me to mention those movies given the trajectory of this thread.

^^^

Second, I do not personally know anyone who is trying to follow the 'owambe trend' as you call it. You may want to explain further. The overwhelming majority of references to 'owambe' I have heard personally are not complimentary.

As I told you, if you want to argue popular culture trends, the basic thing you should know is your onions.

From AIT to SoundCity to Events-tailored local TV stations, that I used to watch many years back, the anchors always used the word "owambe".

Spice and Style...and many more of them.

What are your owambe ideas? Owambe goals and plans for the weekend?

As if it's a natural English word.

There are many posts people have made on-line talking about aso-ebi styles. Other tribes too now wanted to change the word to "ashebi" and I remembered then (and even now) it caused another 'cultural war'.

If you don't know these things, I question why you should be adding to this conversation, when you're not trying to learn.

You want facts, but you think your own anecdotes are okay...

I used tribe in a generic sense... Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo...if you have a problem with that diction, it is on you too.

Third, the 'aso-ebi' phenomenon is not unique to Yoruba and I know some cultures that have practiced it as far back as i can remember. It is not a new thing. Was it pioneered by Yoruba? I honestly do not know. I'll have to do further research on this.

Yes.

It is of Yoruba origin.

You can start from here; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aso_ebi.

The above in bold font is exactly what plain dealer did. I called him out on it and you chose to defend the indefensible. Which is fine - just be honest about it.

Oh.

I seee... countering "wild claims" with more wild claims of yours? Ah.

See, I even said "generalizations." I said plain dealer was making some generalised claims.

While not all generalised claims are right, all generalised claims also aren't wrong.

You called bullshit on EVERYTHING he said, and you were basing your stance on exceptions.

Yes, did he exaggerate? Of course.

He exaggerated on things that were already true and that are happening.

But you didn't concede to ANYthing at all he said...and that was why I came in.

Magnoliaa:


You don't have time?

Them push you come inside my mention before?

You made a claim, wanting to disprove me or shit.

If you cannot substantiate what you're saying, I am sorry, I am not agreeing faya. Ma ha le mo mi.

Leave me mention, lemme see other points from other users...

Oya rest

ProblemChild1:
Oya rest

You can move on.

I was on my own when you came into my mention insulting.

It is my prerogative whether to ignore your comments or not...

Magnoliaa:
Okay. So you're disagreeing NOT because you know better or you have the facts.

Do well not to phrase your disagreements as 'statements of facts' hence.

A person who doesn't know and is trying to inquire like you, supposedly, would not go about with the kind of expressions you're making...

^^^
I am disagreeing precisely because I do know better and I do have the facts - facts which are self evident. If you choose to ignore this I can't help you. I have nothing further to say on this.

Magnoliaa:
That is very much his point.

^^^


The outsider who wept louder than the bereaved.

The poster I quoted has remained silent for obvious reasons. He is a grown man and can speak for himself - but he chose not to. That should tell you something.

Magnoliaa:
You're just choosing to be stressing over words. Resulting in an 'artificial miscommunication'...

^^^
Nonsense.

Magnoliaa:
Not that I really give a shit about the person whom you were arguing with, but consider this as me taking up the mantle now... . We're having a discussion branching off of the points he has made.

^^^



You don't have a horse or dog in this race. Are you acting out some perverse white dame fantasy here? What exactly are you trying to prove?

Magnoliaa:
Armageddon? Painful death? Your interpretation.

Even at that. Don't be theatrical.

You made up a bogus issue and then claim to unravel the issue?

Haha. Brilliant. Not.

^^^
Seen.

Magnoliaa:
Kaiiii.

'Just' is your issue now?

Motigbo.

^^^
Words do matter.

Magnoliaa:
I am telling you that these are pop movies. Hit movies in the country. And some even have a larger African audience. Plus international appeal.

They are championed by Yorubas.

Go and look at Naija movies on Netflix for yourself. Even the English movies are represented by Yoruba actors.

Oh, I also remember Lionheart. Ehen. That's another predominantly Igbo movie I can point to. And this is me being objective. See as I am mentioning these ones, just to show you that I am not unfairly biased towards Igbo-centric movies.

Before I can think of a major Igbo movie with a nationwide acceptance in the current Nigerian entertainment scene, like 20 Yoruba ones would have popped into my head.

^^^
Seen

Magnoliaa:
This has been about popular culture. So don't go all "what should I do with this" with me?

^^^
No it has not been about popular culture.

Go back to my very first post on this where I called out the poster I quoted. I was as clear as possible on exactly why I had challenged him. If you can't see it (or more appropriately, you choose not to see it) I can't help you.

Magnoliaa:
As I told you, if you want to argue popular culture trends, the basic thing you should know is your onions.

From AIT to SoundCity to Events-tailored local TV stations, that I used to watch many years back, the anchors always used the word "owambe".

Spice and Style...and many more of them.

What are your owambe ideas? Owambe goals and plans for the weekend?

As if it's a natural English word.

There are many posts people have made on-line talking about aso-ebi styles. Other tribes too now wanted to change the word to "ashebi" and I remembered then (and even now) it caused another 'cultural war'.

If you don't know these things, I question why you should be adding to this conversation, when you're not trying to learn.

You want facts, but you think your own anecdotes are okay...

^^^


Seen

I never in my wildest dreams would have believed I would get into a protracted 2am online debate about ashebis, owambes, owambe goals, owambe plans and other frivolities but as the preacher once said: "the wicked man's work is never done".

Magnoliaa:
I used tribe in a generic sense... Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo...if you have a problem with that diction, it is on you too.

^^^
Yet more nonsense.

There is a reason why words/phrases like half caste, mulatto, octoroon, mongoloid, Siamese twins etc. do not enjoy the acceptance they once had.

Instead of taking the lesson and moving on, you mulishly double down and claim some dubious 'generic use' of a dated, offensive term.

Magnoliaa:
Oh.

I seee... countering "wild claims" with more wild claims of yours? Ah.

See, I even said "generalizations." I said plain dealer was making some generalised claims.

While not all generalised claims are right, all generalised claims also aren't wrong.

You called bullshit on EVERYTHING he said, and you were basing your stance on exceptions.

Yes, did he exaggerate? Of course.

He exaggerated on things that were already true and that are happening.

But you didn't concede to ANYthing at all he said...and that was why I came in.

^^^
Yet more nonsense.

The 'generalised claims' and 'exaggerations' you mention are just euphemisms for outright falsehood. False claims were made and of course, they did not go unchallenged. Go back and read my initial post again!!

You can go round in circles all day long. I said what I said.

The poster you're ready to take a bullet for made the laughable claim (on this very thread) that Yoruba is the dominant culture in South America. That's the sort of delusion you want to get yourself killed over?

Do have a good evening, ma'am.

Talawaka:


At no point did I suggest your comments conveyed hatred.
If anything, I simply pointed out why it is wrong to impugn other ethnic groups are somehow inferior to the Yoruba.

Moving on, let me ask you this: when did it become characteristic of the Yoruba to indulge in needless chest-thumping?
Or how else does one view your claim that "Yoruba culture is the strongest in Africa"?
Is that part of the Omoluabi ethos? Or is this a new refrain that helps the lily-livered achieve some kind of natural high?

Is your question directed to me or to Yoruba people?

There's little or zero influence of Yoruba culture in Rivers state.

Top 10 Nigerian songs and artists on Apple Nigeria.

9/10 = Yoruba songs and Artists.

No competition.

You go to Netflix, it's Yoruba movies, Yoruba shows, and Yoruba actors and Yoruba culture all over the place

Go to music-sharing and streaming platforms, they are still dominated by Yoruba people and culture

Yes, Yoruba is the face of Nigeria, not even becoming, it is the face.

To some, it sounds like bragging, but it's really not, it's just the obvious reality..

yorubarere:

I can't seize your phone. But going by how you talk, you are badly brought up. And that is not my fault.

Arindin ni girl magnoliaa yen. I knew at some point she'd stain her white and she didn't disappoint.

I noticed as well. As a matter of fact, I was pondering on it a few weeks ago. Whilst lagos, the commercial city of Nigeria has played a major role, the end SARS protest also infused some slangs into the fray.

In all, I think the music industry is playing the major role. Some popular Yoruba artist are mastering the art of infusing Yoruba into their lines. As an Igbo, all I can say is kudos to them. However, it will still rotate back to Igbo.

Talawaka:
This is because the enslavement of Yoruba people never really got into gear until the collapse of the Oyo empire.
While the conflicts in 1750 created the conditions for the heinous trade across what is now regarded as South Western Nigeria, it took another 40 years before the Lagos port became a major outlet.

The simple truth is that, bastioned by empire, the Yoruba arrived in record numbers much later than a lot of the other groups you mentioned.

^^^
Interesting post. I will read up more on this.

Talawaka:
Let's rest all the talk of exceptionalism and supremacy, it is a distraction that only serves to undermine the contributions of others.

^^^
It is the air some people breathe. They will never give it up.

Justmesagi:
I have noticed with keen interest how the Yoruba language has become the major language of use in Nigerian commercial and entertainment sectors.

Igbo use to be especially in Nollywood but since the past two decades, Yoruba language has been the choice language in our music industry, and recently, it is gradually taking over the movie industry too.

Even most Nigerian slangs on socials media (Twitter, Facebook,etc.) are mostly of Yoruba Origin.

I know Lagos, a Yoruba dominated state and commercial capital of Nigeria, plays a major role in these. However, their tendency to infuse their culture in whatever they do thereby propagating it cannot be ignored also.

The "soft power" is getting stronger year by year and this will play a major role in Nigerian future politics and Africa at large.

What are others not doing? Why are we slacking?

How is that an issue? And stop peddling errors as truth in your observation. It's all in your head

Magnoliaa:


You can move on.

I was on my own when you came into my mention insulting.

It is my prerogative whether to ignore your comments or not...

and I said you should rest. Don't you get it

Pakute:

Arindin ni girl magnoliaa yen. I knew at some point she'd stain her white and she didn't disappoint.

She is a disappointment.

Graysons:
There's little or zero influence of Yoruba culture in Rivers state.

If igbo have the numbers yoruba has in Ph, trust me, they would be calling ur land a no mans land by now.

We are naturally not boastful and we always respect our host wherever we find ourselves.

yorubarere:

If igbo have the numbers yoruba has in Ph, trust me, they would be calling ur land a no mans land by now.

We are naturally not boastful and we always respect our host wherever we find ourselves.

LMAO. Are you by any chance saying that there are more Yorubas than Igbos in Pitakwa?

Pakute:
Arindin ni girl magnolia yen. I knew at some point she'd stain her white and she didn't disappoint.

Wow.

You even think I was robed in white? On this thread?

Shocking.