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So you watched whole matches of Pele's matches?

Or just highlights?

Is it highlights you will use to determine if someone was the best ever?

SMH.

Fearyourcreator:
Am not

I thought you are a Ronaldo fan.
That was why I made reference to Ronaldo in your mention.

I hope you don't see that as an offence.

Fearyourcreator:
Do you know why pele didnt play in europe... He was a national treasure

Close your mouth, national Trash.

But he played in US league, junior farmers league.

Even Maradona who played in Europe was not as successful and consistent as Messi.

Your Pele is a fraud.

iykofias:
Pele had some unaccounted goals because he played in so many exhibitions/tour matches around the world against amateur players that can be best described as ‘farmers’.
Yes, he won three World Cup, but that Brazilian team was filled with super talents, he sat out the large majority of the 1962 World Cup. something you can’t say about that Maradona or Messi team.

THAT TEAM? Which one ?
Pele played in four world cups starting age 17. Different teams
The game of football now is different from what Pele played. Now it favours the striker Pele played 3 World Cups 1958,1962 and 1966 when there was nothing like yellow or red card. I believe cards were introduced in 1970 because of the brutal treatment Pele received in 1966. For you to reach the level of Pele in those days you had to be very strong physically because defenders were brutal and there were no cards, just digest that . No cards no matter what

When Pele played back pass to goal keeper was allowed and they could pick it with their hands
There was no red card for denying goal scoring opportunity.
So FIFA deliberately changed rules to encourage more goals especially in the World Cups

blueAgent:
Close your mouth, national Trash.

But he played in US league, junior farmers league.

Even Maradona who played in Europe was not as successful and consistent as Messi.

Your Pele is a fraud.

When did FIFA award messi the goat?
Calling pele a fraud ... Personally I rate ronaldo of Brazil than messi and cr7...
Brazil called pele national treasure ... You come nairaland called him national trash... Wahala dey ooo... Ontop say messi won WC... Na one he won ooo.. Na players won two and three na... Or which cup pass WC... Dey calm down... Not everyone should have same opinion as yours... Thing is every players play different times... But just tell me where football governing body gave messi the greatest of all timw award

Softmirror:
HOW OLD ARE YOU?!

Old enough to know you are dumb and bitter.

I can see your tears, cry more.

This is the kind of blessing I am asking God.

To bless me when, my enemies are at their lowest level and in their presence.

It dey sweet die.

Abeg all penaldo fans try and be taking water with salt to replenish the tears you have been shedding since 18th of this month, 4 your health sake .

Jokerman:
Lol... bro... still on still

1. Pele
2. Maradona
3. Pessi (because of world cup)
4. Cr7 ( 2026 we are going back to 2)
5. Zidane
6. Delima (No UCL)

How was CR7 number 2 before?

Joker!

Masterviolence:
I thought you are a Ronaldo fan.
That was why I made reference to Ronaldo in your mention.

I hope you don't see that as an offence.

Smiles... I dont argue this cr7 and messi thing... I have my preferred player which I believe is better than both ... I prefer the Brazil ronaldo to them ... I didn't watch pele and maradona

Fearyourcreator:
When did FIFA award messi the goat?
Calling pele a fraud ... Personally I rate ronaldo of Brazil than messi and cr7...
Brazil called pele national treasure ... You come nairaland called him national trash... Wahala dey ooo... Ontop say messi won WC... Na one he won ooo.. Na players won two and three na... Or which cup pass WC... Dey calm down... Not everyone should have same opinion as yours... Thing is every players play different times... But just tell me where football governing body gave messi the greatest of all timw award

I no dey argue with ppl on rented brain..

Masterviolence:
It is best you say it's based on people's opinion that saying we're messing the word up.

It was not messed up when Ronaldo was in the debate of the GOAT, but now that Messi is mile ahead of him it automatically became a messed up word.

Be open minded... To me Brazilian ronaldo is better than messi and cr7 ... Cus I watched him... I don't argue on messi and cr7 ... I don't have issues with messi Or cr7

blueAgent:
I no dey argue with ppl on rented brain..

You dont have anything to say ... Did FIFA award messi GOAT ?
If it's not yes ... Why you dey insult people up and down

lhordspy:
Lol. Every man is entitle to his opinion. But we all know you are just seeking attention here, Mr oliseh.

only pessi.fans will argue that 1 is greater than 3, can we also argue that cr7's 5 ballin Dior is greater that Messi's 7?

yinkeys:
Bruh
The quality of those World Cups 50 years ago were not beyond today’s Afcon
Qatar 2022 is the hardest World Cup ever
The competition was insane
The quality and standard of football from many nations is extremely high now
It wasn’t one or two teams dominating the entire tournament like we had in 2002, 98 etc
I sure say these Argentinians body go dey sore like mad
Emi Martinez was just the difference in the finals
We have 32 teams competing compared to

Did you watch them then?
Protection players got now is enough reason why its difficult then...
But did you watch then?

yinkeys:
Bruh
The quality of those World Cups 50 years ago were not beyond today’s Afcon
Qatar 2022 is the hardest World Cup ever
The competition was insane
The quality and standard of football from many nations is extremely high now
It wasn’t one or two teams dominating the entire tournament like we had in 2002, 98 etc
I sure say these Argentinians body go dey sore like mad
Emi Martinez was just the difference in the finals
We have 32 teams competing compared to

If football goes the way you analyse... Messi should have won like three...

Fearyourcreator:
Did you watch them then?
Protection players got now is enough reason why its difficult then...
But did you watch then?

nor mind they kid, fanboys, Dem think say na now wey Dem never touch Messi them don award penalty?.games were really physical then.

iykofias:
Pele had some unaccounted goals because he played in so many exhibitions/tour matches around the world against amateur players that can be best described as ‘farmers’.
Yes, he won three World Cup, but that Brazilian team was filled with super talents, he sat out the large majority of the 1962 World Cup. something you can’t say about that Maradona or Messi team.

Messi played all his career with talent and great players, you dey whine. That Argentina squad na Norway players or Poland players Dey there?? All of them are wonderful superstars, Angel di Maria na world class and co

HBB1:
How was CR7 number 2 before?

Joker!

don't mind these useless fanboys, even in Argentina, maradonna is still rated above Messi, talk less of the almighty Pele.

TheOgaBoss:
nor mind they kid, fanboys, Dem think say na now wey Dem never touch Messi them don award penalty?.games were really physical then.

If you watch maradonas clips... You will cry ... Wicked football... Players can't last long then unlike now... Even now the game got a lot of soft defenders... Even the 90s defense was crazy... Football is no more war... FIFA protects players a lot now... And again there is advancement in medicine...
Equipment and so on... Then football were heavy ... And gets heavily if rain starts...

Fearyourcreator:
Did you watch them then?
Protection players got now is enough reason why its difficult then...
But did you watch then?

So you mean Pele's Teams that won the world cup will beat world champions of last 20 years?

You realise many footballers then were semi-pro?

Taxi-drivers, Doctors ( Socrates come to mind)... who also played football.

Have you seen the level of goal keeping of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s...?

Have you seen the poor tactics?

Did you watch the whole Dutch Team chasing the ball like primary school kids?

10 players running towards the ball at once?


Modern football is better in every way.

Or can you compare English Club football of the 80s, early 90s and now?

Come of it, man!

Did he win 7 ballon d'ors? Play in Europe? Etc.

HBB1:
So you mean Pele's Teams that won the world cup will beat world champions of last 20 years?

You realise many footballers then were semi-pro?

Taxi-drivers, Doctors ( Socrates come to mind)... who also played football.

Have you seen the level of goal keeping of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s...?

Have you seen the poor tactics?

Did you watch the whole Dutch Team chasing the ball like primary school kids?

10 players running towards the ball at once?


Modern football is better in every way.

Or can you compare English Club football of the 80s, early 90s and now?

Come of it, man!

It's easy now... Good pitch
Advancement In medicine... More rounded ball and not heavy... Soft tackles and soft defenders... Even 90s football ... This modern stars wont last cus of the crazy defends then... Football is easier now... Useless players getting paid high ... Good facilities.. E plenty

jeromestarks:
if you want to make it in 2023, leave this G.O.A.T argument behind.


If you want to prosper in 2023, do not give any girl who isn't you family money except it's exchange for sex.


If you want your life to be better in 2023, don't date a single mother. They are operating under a different level of curse.


If you want to finish 2023 in praise, do not commit to a girl you did not disvirgin. Just fvck and pass her to the others when you're tired.


If you want to be happy in 2023, do not try to impress any body. Do what pleases you and you alone.

Finally, if you want the future of your children to be safe after 2023, Do NOT vote Atiku.

What kind of curse is a single mother operating in?

Heffalump:
When I see Messi fans jubilating with all manner of fantasy, calling him GOAT with so much adulation and encomiums, as if he single handedly won the world cup for Argentina, I concluded that these people are myopic and jobless. Afterall, one shishi will not enter your pocket out of the millions in Messi's account. Some even went ahead to drag CR7, who is far richer than Messi as if they're doing Messi a great honor and favor.

When I see these people, I just laugh. The actual football GOAT is no one but the indomitable "KING PELE", not Ronaldo or Messi.

How is cr7 far richer than Messi?

Fearyourcreator:
Did you watch them then?
Protection players got now is enough reason why its difficult then...
But did you watch then?

There are old videos online of ancient World Cup games. I’ve watched some
It ain’t spectacular & competitive like the modern game
Been closely watching World Cups since 1998
I can vividly remember the theme songs too
I remember golden goals etc
Qatar World Cup is the best ever
Don’t know why people are still debating this
I predicted Argentina would be before the opening ceremony based on form but I didn’t know they’d go through hell to get it
Same way I predicted France four years ago
Today’s athletes are better than those of yesterday

Fearyourcreator:
It's easy now... Good pitch
Advancement In medicine... More rounded ball and not heavy... Soft tackles and soft defenders... Even 90s football ... This modern stars wont last cus of the crazy defends then... Football is easier now... Useless players getting paid high ... Good facilities.. E plenty

Good pitch...?

So by your analogy, children playing on dusty grounds or patchy fields in Africa are better than those playing on grass.

Or those playing with Felele or bumpy footballs are better?

Did Mourinho's Madrid not rough-house prime Barca?

Where they not still beaten blue-black.

Advancement in science and medicine means todays players are stronger, fitter and better conditioned.

Lots of old-school footballers smoked and binged on alcohol.

Today, even to eat chocolate, they no go gree you.

Which is the very reason you have players actively playing into their 40s now.

Vinnie Jones was a defender and I saw videos of him play-- he was shit!

Kicking people around does not make a good defender.

Even rugby has rules.

I wouldn't say because early UFC fights allowed groin strikes, that the fighters of those years are better than today's.
That is bullshit!

Today's C teams will wipe the floor with teams of yesteryears.

...and it is the same with anyother sport you can think of.

People are bigger, fitter, faster and stronger.
They also compete with people of a similar ilk.

That's why records get broken every year.

Even Maradona is greater than Messi.
Ask any Argentine

yinkeys:
There are old videos online of ancient world cups. I’ve watched some
It ain’t spectacular & competitive like the modern game
Been closely watching World Cups since 1998
I can vividly remember the theme songs too
I remember golden goals etc
Qatar World Cup is the best ever
Don’t know why people are still debating this
I predicted Argentina would be before the opening ceremony based on form but I didn’t know they’d go through hell to get it
Same way I predicted France four years ago

Football was shit then!

( football in the 80s was different though)

Even some of our revered Nigerian footballers were very average.

I 'rewatched' some old Super Eagles videos and wondered what the hype was about someone like Rashidi Yekini.

He was bang average!

omonnakoda:
Even Maradona is greater than Messi.
Ask any Argentine

Don't be silly.

There are polls showing Argentines saying who they prefer.

Older people say Maradona, younger adults say Messi.

...and now Messi has won the world cup which was the only edge Maradona had over him.

So?

Yeah Correct.

This Is the Original Goat. Not Fluke Pessido

HBB1:
Don't be silly.

There are polls showing Argentines saying who they prefer.

Older people say Maradona, younger adults say Messi.

...and now Messi has won the world cup which was the only edge Maradona had over him.

So?

Don't be silly is rude in Nigeria. I do not know where you are but is there any need to be rube on this matter?

omonnakoda:
Don't be silly is rude in Nigeria. I do not know where you are but is there any need to be rube on this matter?

Being rude was not my intent.

I apologise.

HBB1:
Being rude was not my intent.

I apologise.

No worries