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Blakjewelry:
I think this discussion will call for a separate thread. There can never be global peace, someone must always rebel. You can only only quantify global people based on percentage. Every good person have a dormant bad side and every bad person has a good side. Now no matter how the laws are modified there will always be those who feel short change. I use to tell myself this, even heaven or paradise exists, its only time someone revolt and the circle repeat itself.
World peace, unity well I will say humanity has done a lot for itself. In fact what we are experiencing is some level of global peace. Read your history book you will know we have achieved alot, before it constant infighting between small clans and small villages as all over the world. In Africa, in Europe, Asia, lands were constantly be raided with brute force, infact that is one of the reasons that keeps the human population in check for a very long time, but with more peace comes population explosion. If don't self destruct we will improve. Well I know when you ask about moral and cleaness you are referring to the likes of homosexuality.
Well I think making it an issue is were the problem actually started. I am not denying the fact that some of arise from biological anomaly, but I think we should be thinking of a way to medically correct it. Some of their tendency is as a result of excess of the opposite sex hormones especially those cross dressers but when we are born with a medical condition like birth defects and we have the means to correct it we do that so why not follow same approach.
I think the reason marriage was created is for legal means of procreation and also create a safe and protected environment for the couple to achieve that.
I don't see how gay couple tend to procreate so they can do that in private its there personal choice and shouldn't be matter to be discussed in politics. If we are to discuss that, then maybe we should set up a law for masturbator too.

Who or what CREATED marriage
Remember that the apes you said we evolved from have the crazy sex drive and I'm not sure they are monogamous
Why do we have sense of fidelity and infidelity
What about condemning incest

As for homosexuality, many things can cause it just as anger which can have many cause and many have said some persons anger could be due to genetic causes and biological
It is not just ourselves we tend to clean up but also our environment at large and to save animals and plants cos we have such awareness of our environment and for our sakes and future generations but animals have no such thing cos they simply live for the moment

Blakjewelry:
You want me to get you some raw data? Will you be be able to process anything? At least that hard evidence enough for you.

In the Law of evidence data is almost not evidence and it is still hearsay evidence.

Dtruthspeaker:
In the Law of evidence data is almost not evidence and it is still hearsay evidence.

What village are you from? Data is not evidence. Because you are color blind to the truth doesn't make it any less than the truth. Video evidence are accepted in court, bank printout are accepted, evidence are sent to experts they are invited to court provide and to analyse who they know. You truly represent what religion stands for, lies, deciet and outrightly reject the truth even when evidence is provided. What you just said is like in a paternity test, dna evidence which is data is presented before the court, but you as the the judge said that is hearsay, you will have to lose your job.

Blakjewelry:
What village are you from? Data is not evidence. Because you are color blind to the truth doesn't make it any less than the truth. Video evidence are accepted in court, bank printout are accepted, evidence are sent to experts they are invited to court provide and to analyse who they know. You truly represent what religion stands for, lies, deciet and outrightly reject the truth even when evidence is provided. What you just said is like in a paternity test, dna evidence which is data is presented before the court, but you as the the judge said that is hearsay, you will have to lose your job.

You are just making noise. If data was evidence you would be in prison because you are black or Nigerian or iibo.

Secondly, video evidence goes through processing before it is acceptable and the experts too.

And now you have shifted from data evidence which is what we were talking about to video evidence and expert evidence which you did not raise, so you have changed post yet again.

So you are just making noise because you can not believe that all the things you live on are not valid evidence.

That is why you are pained by my response.

Aemmyjah:
Who or what CREATED marriage
Remember that the apes you said we evolved from have the crazy sex drive and I'm not sure they are monogamous
Why do we have sense of fidelity and infidelity
What about condemning incest

As for homosexuality, many things can cause it just as anger which can have many cause and many have said some persons anger could be due to genetic causes and biological
It is not just ourselves we tend to clean up but also our environment at large and to save animals and plants cos we have such awareness of our environment and for our sakes and future generations but animals have no such thing cos they simply live for the moment

Marriage started before recorded history, but it was only a means to an end. Majority of the marriage back was base on calculations it was tool and not mostly based on love.
Please cite a scientific journal which claims man originate from ape plus who told you man sex drive is anything less than that of other animals. Until recently the society was mostly a man's world and it is even today, check most of the religious books you will they delegated women to the background, it is what I call too much testosterone induce books. They allow men to promiscuous while vilify the women from the same act.
It still happens today, if a man catches his wife with another man it's a problem but if a woman catches a her, she should just swallow it up.
Married are carrying young women everyday, but the very thought of a woman doing the same is condemable already.
You talk about fidelity and all that, all these are just you concept, in ancient time a man can marry how many wives and had many concubine as he wants, so you think the woman don't like to explore? Do you even the married women do see some hot guy they wish to bed? The society has set a standard who control everything. There is a culture in some part of China back then where a girl that up to age is allowed to bed as many as any guys she wants and any child resulting from it belong to the girl and the guy is not allowed to take care of the child. There places like India and Egypt were it is the woman that marries the man. The point is the society determines what is in effect.
On the issue of incest, check your Bible it is filled with it lol. It wasn't condemned in the beginning.
LOL you talked about how healing the earth, I thought when scientists keep keep giving warning you guys said it is doom alerts.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are just making noise. If data was evidence you would be in prison because you are black or Nigerian or iibo.

Secondly, video evidence goes through processing before it is acceptable and the experts too.

And now you have shifted from data evidence which is what we were talking about to video evidence and expert evidence which you did not raise, so you have changed post yet again.

So you are just making noise because you can not believe that all the things you live on are not valid evidence.

That is why you are pained by my response.

please what do you understand data? Did you think I was talking about the sub you do with your mtn lol. Video, audio picture, text captured and stored are all data. The hubble telescope capture in new visible to ultraviolet while the James Webb telescope capture in different infra rays which made visible and you here arguing about data.. Reading your Bible doesn't mean you should reach scientific work.

Blakjewelry:
Marriage started before recorded history, but it was only a means to an end. Majority of the marriage back was base on calculations it was tool and not mostly based on love.
Please cite a scientific journal which claims man originate from ape plus who told you man sex drive is anything less than that of other animals. Until recently the society was mostly a man's world and it is even today, check most of the religious books you will they delegated women to the background, it is what I call too much testosterone induce books. They allow men to promiscuous while vilify the women from the same act.
It still happens today, if a man catches his wife with another man it's a problem but if a woman catches a her, she should just swallow it up.
Married are carrying young women everyday, but the very thought of a woman doing the same is condemable already.
You talk about fidelity and all that, all these are just you concept, in ancient time a man can marry how many wives and had many concubine as he wants, so you think the woman don't like to explore? Do you even the married women do see some hot guy they wish to bed? The society has set a standard who control everything. There is a culture in some part of China back then where a girl that up to age is allowed to bed as many as any guys she wants and any child resulting from it belong to the girl and the guy is not allowed to take care of the child. There places like India and Egypt were it is the woman that marries the man. The point is the society determines what is in effect.
On the issue of incest, check your Bible it is filled with it lol. It wasn't condemned in the beginning.
LOL you talked about how healing the earth, I thought when scientists keep keep giving warning you guys said it is doom alerts.

What about the domestic violence we hear today? From the Bible right?
Is the bible responsible for the hate today- Xenophobia,racism, etc
You mentioned marriage. If science can describe how man came to be, let them tell us how marriage came to be and why humans marry if they evolved from animals
Mention one incest

The society today is promoting secularism and that is why things that used to be frowned at like homosexuality and abortions has now become political

As for your last words, is science giving us warnings or assurances about the future?

Aemmyjah:
What about the domestic violence we hear today? From the Bible right?
Is the bible responsible for the hate today- Xenophobia,racism, etc
You mentioned marriage. If science can describe how man came to be, let them tell us how marriage came to be and why humans marry if they evolved from animals
Mention one incest

The society today is promoting secularism and that is why things that used to be frowned at like homosexuality and abortions has now become political

As for your last words, is science giving us warnings or assurances about the future?

Domestic violence has always been with man, it is just that modernisation only give voice to the oppressed. Previously it is well within the right of man to do as he pleases with his wife, it almost like his property. I won't outrightly blame the bible because it is similar in every culture which is male dominated one. Lol xenophobia and racism or tribalism has always been with man, infact human society has even evolved to some extent, read your history and you will see what such actions have driven man. You read your Bible but you do not see the genocide committed by the Israelites because they feel they are the chosen race that is superior. Human did not evolved from animal, we are class of animal. We are unique no doubt but do you know some advance and complex system in some animal or have you taken time to study how complex their own society is. God wanted to create man in his own image, he didn't use any special material but the same material with goat, cat dog etc. They feel pain like us, scared like us, love their young like us, they have sex like us, they communicate and understand each like us and you think we were created differently. Omo material scarce when God wan create man?

Blakjewelry:
please what do you understand data? Did you think I was talking about the sub you do with your mtn lol. Video, audio picture, text captured and stored are all data.

So are fabrication and movies. How can we tell which is True? Only by due processing which is what The Law of Evidence takes care of.

Blakjewelry:
Domestic violence has always been with man, it is just that modernisation only give voice to the oppressed. Previously it is well within the right of man to do as he pleases with his wife, it almost like his property. I won't outrightly blame the bible because it is similar in every culture which is male dominated one. Lol xenophobia and racism or tribalism has always been with man, infact human society has even evolved to some extent, read your history and you will see what such actions have driven man. You read your Bible but you do not see the genocide committed by the Israelites because they feel they are the chosen race that is superior. Human did not evolved from animal, we are class of animal. We are unique no doubt but do you know some advance and complex system in some animal or have you taken time to study how complex their own society is. God wanted to create man in his own image, he didn't use any special material but the same material with goat, cat dog etc. They feel pain like us, scared like us, love their young like us, they have sex like us, they communicate and understand each like us and you think we were created differently. Omo material scarce when God wan create man?

How u de take reason
We're not too different from animals in our make-up
There are many things that distinguish us from them.
Spirituality
Empathy, love. Kindnessz wisdom
Altruism
Aesthetic, moral values
Conscience
Self awareness, etc

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Aemmyjah:
How u de take reason
We're not too different from animals in our make-up
There are many things that distinguish us from them.
Spirituality
Empathy, love. Kindnessz wisdom
Altruism
Aesthetic, moral values
Conscience
Self awareness, etc

I

Non of these are unique to humans, if you study other primates and a number of mammals they all have some rudimentary or complex version of all these.

Even spirituality, where we've observed elephants visiting the graves of their dead members. Almost as though to pay their respects. A behavior that has no benefit for survival.

DeusXmachina:
Non of these are unique to humans, if you study other primates and a number of mammals they all have some rudimentary or complex version of all these.

Even spirituality, where we've observed elephants visiting the graves of their dead members. Almost as though to pay their respects. A behavior that has no benefit for survival.

Lol
So elephant dig graves bah? Even if they dig graves to bury their relatives, is mere visiting the grave an act of spirituality?
Max, come and see another one o

Mention one animal that has aesthetic values- appreciating arts, music, wonders of creation

Aemmyjah:
How u de take reason
We're not too different from animals in our make-up
There are many things that distinguish us from them.
Spirituality
Empathy, love. Kindnessz wisdom
Altruism
Aesthetic, moral values
Conscience
Self awareness, etc

I

LOL you mentioned all these from a human perspective, you think you understand the nature of animals abi?
Suppose animals are spiritual in nature how would know? Do you speak animal? You talk of love as only human nature, have you ever wondered why a hen as lazy as it is, it's not afraid to attack you when you threatened their chick?
U talked about Empathy, there was a day I saw a local goat been drag with a rope and it was shouting, the whole goat in the area gather but they could not do anything, some of them even tried to move closer but couldn't do anything.
We know man is the most advanced animal on the planet but as long we have flesh and blood we are still classified as animals.
So organism has capability and has complex structures we can only dream of.

Dtruthspeaker:
So are fabrication and movies. How can we tell which is True? Only by due processing which is what The Law of Evidence takes care of.

Here is were expert and professional help is needed, and if you decides to argue with the expert my friend you need to be contained in a mental home.
I keep repeating their are tons of scientists from different religious backgrounds accepts those research and results but you are here arguing maybe I dey waste my time.

Blakjewelry:
LOL you mentioned all these from a human perspective, you think you understand the nature of animals abi?
Suppose animals are spiritual in nature how would know? Do you speak animal? You talk of love as only human nature, have you ever wondered why a hen as lazy as it is, it's not afraid to attack you when you threatened their chick?
U talked about Empathy, there was a day I saw a local goat been drag with a rope and it was shouting, the whole goat in the area gather but they could not do anything, some of them even tried to move closer but couldn't do anything.
We know man is the most advanced animal on the planet but as long we have flesh and blood we are still classified as animals.
So organism has capability and has complex structures we can only dream of.

Bwahahahahaha
Empathy nkor, shamepathy no
Max, come and see another one o
He stays goats have empathy
If it were dogs, I for no too laugh. Na goat de get empathy. Goats that can even fight their kids for food

Your illustration of hen is correct but that is what science calls PARENTAL CARE.

You that know animals more than me
You that speak to animals and they speak to you
You that can see things from animal standpoint, dispute what I am saying na

What has happened to atheists that they are bringing themselves to lower animals?

Justice
Love
Loyalty and faithfulness
Wisdom
Approachableness
Holiness
Spirituality
Self control
Peace
Joy
Faith
Humility
Virtue
Altruism
Morality
Conscience
Righteousness
Aesthetics

Aemmyjah:
Bwahahahahaha
Empathy nkor, shamepathy no
Max, come and see another one o
He stays goats have empathy
If it were dogs, I for no too laugh. Na goat de get empathy. Goats that can even fight their kids for food

Your illustration of hen is correct but that is what science calls PARENTAL CARE.

You that know animals more than me
You that speak to animals and they speak to you
You that can see things from animal standpoint, dispute what I am saying na

What has happened to atheists that they are bringing themselves to lower animals?

Justice
Love
Loyalty and faithfulness
Wisdom
Approachableness
Holiness
Spirituality
Self control
Peace
Joy
Faith
Humility
Virtue
Altruism
Morality
Conscience
Righteousness
Aesthetics

Righteousness, holiness Common all these are mere concept. You think someone unholy because two adults decides to have sex, remind me again, what do your religion teaches about a woman is on her period in the old testament.
You speak of conscience from a human standpoint, why are animals not just killing each animal of their own species until non is left.
Bros speak for your own species not others, what you call maternal instinct is just chemical responses same as love and hate and fear.

Blakjewelry:
Righteousness, holiness Common all these are mere concept. You think someone unholy because two adults decides to have sex, remind me again, what do your religion teaches about a woman is on her period in the old testament.
You speak of conscience from a human standpoint, why are animals not just killing each animal of their own species until non is left.
Bros speak for your own species not others, what you call maternal instinct is just chemical responses same as love and hate and fear.

Holiness means pure. It is not a mere concept
I think it is self righteous and over righteous people that think that being holy is all about abstaining from sex
Lol
Go and do research on conscience cos your last words does not make any sense to you

Aemmyjah:
Holiness means pure. It is not a mere concept
I think it is self righteous and over righteous people that think that being holy is all about abstaining from sex
Lol
Go and do research on conscience cos your last words does not make any sense to you

Since it is not concept tell me what what it means for someone to pure.
I only cite sex as an example if you can grab that then I am afraid I am wasting my time here.

Blakjewelry:
Since it is not concept tell me what what it means for someone to pure.
I only cite sex as an example if you can grab that then I am afraid I am wasting my time here.

You describe it as 'mere' concept

Blakjewelry:
Here is were expert and professional help is needed, and if you decides to argue with the expert my friend you need to be contained in a mental home.
I keep repeating their are tons of scientists from different religious backgrounds accepts those research and results but you are here arguing maybe I dey waste my time.

Do scientists and experts not come to court to give evidence? You are wasting your time trying to give hearsay evidence as proof of Truth.

Aemmyjah:
Lol
So elephant dig graves bah? Even if they dig graves to bury their relatives, is mere visiting the grave an act of spirituality?
Max, come and see another one o

Are you attempting to change the topic?

I was talking about visitation of graves, the location of the corpse or bones of their dead member, not the ability to dig a hole.
If you think my use of the word 'grave' is an inaccurate descriptor, then I'm willing to concede to that, but not the broader point.

"Is mere visiting the grave an act of spirituality"
Would it not be?
Isn't the act of visiting the grave of a loved one, like acknowledging to an extent they are more than just their physical body to you, else why not just just forget them when they die.

What would you consider an animal with a mind capable of doing that?

Mention one animal that has aesthetic values- appreciating arts, music, wonders of creation

You ask that like you've never heard birds sing, and among the number of reasons they do is to attract a mate, or seen male peacocks flash their beauty before their female members.
All these are aesthetic based, where the females select whoever they perceive is the best singer of the male birds, or the most beautiful of the male peacocks.

Aesthetic appreciation is the main driver of sexual selection actually.

DeusXmachina:
Are you attempting to change the topic?

I was talking about visitation of graves, the location of the corpse or bones of their dead member, not the ability to dig a hole.
If you think my use of the word 'grave' is an inaccurate descriptor, then I'm willing to concede to that, but not the broader point.

"Is mere visiting the grave an act of spirituality"
Would it not be?
Isn't the act of visiting the grave of a loved one, like acknowledging to an extent they are more than just their physical body to you, else why not just just forget them when they die.

What would you consider an animal with a mind capable of doing that?

You ask that like you've never heard birds sing, and among the number of reasons they do is to attract a mate, or seen male peacocks flash their beauty before their female members.
All these are aesthetic based, where the females select whoever they perceive is the best singer of the male birds, or the most beautiful of the male peacocks.

Aesthetic appreciation is the main driver of sexual selection actually.

Bwahahahahaha
Visiting a grave is part of spirituality. Go and drink acidic tea
You are right that birds sing and other things you said are just acts of courtship not aesthetics and other animals have their too
It's tiring engaging you
Check the meaning of aesthetics