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| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by IbileIfe: 8:30am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Interesting15:Thanks a lot for your revelation. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by VIKTO83(m): 8:31am On Dec 25, 2022 |
OP u forgot to mention the 3 wise men. Those guys played d role of a midfielder. They do all d work and yet are underappreciated. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by NNTR: 8:37am On Dec 25, 2022 |
uncleck:If it was important to celebrate the birth Jesus, then God would have allowed the date of birth to be explicitly written in the bible. It is because date is not of importance is the reason why this information is glaringly absent chatinent:Jesus, by God's grace was born some time in October (i.e. the tenth month of the year) Ola4lead:The exact day is not important, suffice to know it was in October Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by sukkot: 8:38am On Dec 25, 2022 |
NNTR:yeah the tooth fairy very nice fella |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by chatinent: 8:42am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Ola4lead:Christ followers never created any day in December to celebrate Jesus' birth... It's always been pagan and the sun god has always been celebrated. December is not the month of the birth of Jesus either. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 9:25am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:Take it easy my friend. Jesus Christ was not born on Xmas day. Infact, nobody know the actual day that He was born. However, the early Christians decided to Mark and celebrate His birthday on December 25th. There is absolute nothing wrong with that. The argument that December 25th was formerly used by pagans to worship a deity does not invalidate the celebration of Xmas on December 25th. Also remember that "Sunday" was a day devouted to the worship of the Sun. However, Christians also decided to select " Sunday" as the day to worship the Almighty God . |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 9:32am On Dec 25, 2022 |
chatinent:The issue is that the early Christians tried convincing the pagans to substitute the worship of the sungod with the Almighty God. Hence they selected " Sunday" , a day devouted to the worship of the sungod as the right day for worshipping the Almighty God. They also selected December 25th which is the day marked for celebrating the sungod as the day for celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. Hence if you are against celebrating Xmas on December 25th, you should also be against holding church services on Sunday. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Kobojunkiee: 9:36am On Dec 25, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:1. I am afraid you are in error. The fact that the idea to celebrate His birthday did not come from Jesus Christ means it is a Pagan holiday. Now, according to God, those who believe in Him can only honor Him by doing that which He commands in His Law. Essentially, you can only use God's Name for that which is as commanded by Him. What this means is it is sin against God to use His name to brand that which He never commanded. ![]() 2. The term Pagan as used in scripture applies to pretty much anything that does not originate from God Himself. So long as your Sunday rituals were not commanded by God Himself,they are Pagan and not of God. ![]() |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by NNTR: 9:47am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee: MikeofAfrica:Your comparison of December 25th with Sunday holds no water. Jesus resurrected on a Sunday, hence the reason, for specially holding services on Sunday (i.e. in commemoration of this fact) however He wasnt born a December 25th, which is a make-believe (i.e. a lie and a pretence) Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 10:11am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:Do you mean that if I open a School and name it after God to appreciate His assistances, it will become a sin since God never commanded me to name the School after Him? Where in the Bible did God give you the permission to be mentioning His name on nairaland? Where in the Bible did God give Nigeria the permission to mention His name in the National Anthem? Apostle Paul confided in us that we can eat a food offered by pagans after sanctifying the food with prayers ( I Corinthians 10: 27-31). Hence we have sanctify December 25th( the day of pagan celebration) with prayers and is using it to celebrate the birth of Jesus . |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by saintkel(m): 10:11am On Dec 25, 2022 |
chatinent:was Jesus crucified in April? |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Kobojunkiee: 10:17am On Dec 25, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:1. So long as you don't pretend that the name implies God Himself has something to do with your business and you don't assume your business honors Him in some way, then you do not break His Law. ![]() 2. As one who is a follower of Jesus Christ, it is against God for me to teach His Truth using any other name.. ![]() 3. Am I to take it that Paul is a god to you since here we are discussing misuse of the name of Jesus Christ and you are invoking instead Paul? ![]() 4. Your claim makes no sense! ![]() |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 10:28am On Dec 25, 2022 |
NNTR:The issue is that the day ,date or place that Christians chooses to worship God or celebrate the birth of Jesus is insignificant before God. That is the gospel of Jesus in John 4: 21-23. Hence I can personally decide to be celebrating my Xmas on my birthday. It does not make any difference. What matters to God is our personal relationship with Him. He wants us to worship Him in spirit and truth. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Eberex(m): 10:29am On Dec 25, 2022 |
chatinent:Show me your great great great grandfather's date of birth and I will answer your question |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 10:38am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:Why are you making Christianity a rigid religion? It is not mandatory for a Christian to celebrate the birth of Jesus since He did not command us to celebrate His birthday. However, it is wrong for us to condenm someone celebrating the birthday of Jesus. Jesus Christ told us that the place, day or date that we should to worship God is insignificant. What matters to God is we worshipping Him in Spirit and truth( John 4:27-31). Hence you can decide to convert a shrine where your ancestors worship idols to an alter where you worship God. You can also decide to use the date your ancestors use in worshipping idols to worship God. As long as you worship Him in Spirit and truth, it is acceptable to God. As long as you celebrate Xmas by remembering the poor around you, it is acceptable to God. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Kobojunkiee: 10:47am On Dec 25, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:1. Wow... you are not even aware that God Himself made it rigid when He sent His Law and Covenant, Jesus Christ to you? ![]() 2. Lol.... I celebrate Christmas for the Pagan holiday that it is because as God Himself warned, it is a sin against Him to attempt to add to, change, or remove from His Law - no man has right to use God's name without His explicit permission as given in His Law.. ![]() 3. Jesus Christ never permitted anyone to celebrate pagan ideas using His name. We are talking of the same Jesus Christ who went as far as to state that He does not desire praise from human beings- John 5 vs 39 - 44 ![]() 4. Where in the world do you get this idea that God allows you convert an altar previously dedicated to idols to something holy? Who lied to you that you are even capable of such? ![]() |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by NNTR: 10:51am On Dec 25, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:What matters, is have the balls, to acknowledge and admit the truth, that Jesus wasnt born on December 25th, but its all a pretence, a lie, a sham, a play along that He was born on that day Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by chatinent: 11:08am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Eberex:I know all my forefathers birth dates, uncle. If you can't win an argument, admit it..subtle ways to prove yourself is archaic. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by lawanifumila: 11:16am On Dec 25, 2022 |
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| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Ola4lead(m): 11:21am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:I don't see anywhere in my quote where I said Jesus told them to celebrate him... So stick to my content |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 11:22am On Dec 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Law ( Romans 8: 3 - 5). The death and resurrection of Jesus fulfilled all the laws of the OT on our behalf. It is that fulfillment of the law that gave Christians the right to make " Sunday " the day of worship instead of Sabbath day, Saturday. Jesus modified the OT laws into two. Love God and your neighbour. Any of the OT laws that does not relate to these two is inconsequential. Hence we have the right to modify and neglect the laws of Moses that does not relate with the laws of Christ. That is the reason women having their mensuration period can now attend church service. The laws of Moses is against that. We have the power to select a day for celebrating the birth of Christ. Remember that the Calendar we are using is not from God but from man. Hence if a man can decide that January 1st is the first day of the year, why can't christians decide that December 25th is the birthday of Jesus. When God created the heavens and Earth, it was fill with darkness. He then commanded Light to appear and the darkness vanished. We are created in the image of God. Hence we can destroy the darkness in a pagan' s shrine and bring the light of God into that same place hence making it a place of worshipping God. That is what the missionaries did when they came to Africa. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Ola4lead(m): 11:27am On Dec 25, 2022 |
chatinent:The Google is your friend...check what the ninth month is called in the Bible and check the month it fall to now on Google You people fail to realize that the Bible calendar is different, just like yoruba land calendar start from August in those days. Even in the Bible there are 13 months, Study of the weather and rotation of the earth under new study is what makes everyone start using Jan as the first day of the month |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 11:32am On Dec 25, 2022 |
NNTR:Did I tell you that Jesus Christ was born on December 25th? Nobody knows the date of His birth hence the early Christians selected December 25th to mark that event. If I did not know the date of my great grandfather birthday whom I inherited his wealth, I and my family can decide to mark his birthday and remember him on June 10th. That decision does not make us a sinner. I repeat, it is insignificant before God the day, date or place where you worship Him. He is only interested in you worshipping Him in Spirit and truth ( John 4:20-23). |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by efeski(m): 11:33am On Dec 25, 2022 |
What about Judas Iscariot? Someone had to betray The Master and dude was a vessel unto that albeit willing or unwilling depending on how you view it. The betrayal had been prophesied and demons from Hades sure weren't gonna do what mankind could do for himself. All said and done I feel nothing but pity for that fella and we gotta agree he also played a key role. Merry Christmas |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by NNTR: 11:35am On Dec 25, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:I care not about what you've told or not told me, just have the chutzpah to admit and acknowledge that December 25th isnt the date Jesus was born. Simple. Enough of the acrobatic gymnastics. Cant be that hard Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by MikeofAfrica: 11:40am On Dec 25, 2022 |
NNTR:Okey! Let me pet you like a baby. Jesus Christ was not born on December 25th. I hope you are now happy. When you grow up, you will realize that you have the power to select a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by NNTR: 11:55am On Dec 25, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:No one is discussing with you, the power to select a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. We thank God, that the lie perpetuated that Jesus was born on December 25th have since been debunked by you Told you, it isnt a hard thing to admit. Now run along. Go and sin no more. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by chatinent: 12:07pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
Ola4lead:You need google more bro. Verify if the Hebrew calendar is the same with what you claim. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Eberex(m): 1:58pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
chatinent:Indeed you do. If we decide to mark his birthday on the 25th how is it different from any other days? You just want to type something |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by chatinent: 2:22pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
Eberex:You are free to remain pagan anyways. |
| Re: The True Heroes In The Christmas Story by Kobojunkiee: 5:32pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
Ola4lead:So we both agree then that it is Pagan origins since God never commanded such celebrations in His name? ![]() |
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