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Crystalom5:
at the moment, arguing about life in other places is like arguing both sides of a mobius stripe. Both arguments will be correct because we may never know.

Because of the vastness of the universe, there are already some points that are so far out of our reach that everything across them are regarded as lost forever.

In the best effort, we'll never be able to reach them because relative to us now, they are traveling almost at the speed of light.

This is why I say we'll never know.

Secondly, the universe might be so unique that no two point can be exactly alike. In that case, earth is so unique that there's nothing like it out there.

Or it could be repetited and at every galactic interval, there's a planet exactly like earth with all of its goodness.

Or we could be living in the past of the universe and not in the present as we think. After all, most of the things we observed from outer space are things that have already happened millions of years ago and we are just seeing them. In fact, some of the galaxies we are seeing today have left that place millions of years ago, only their light are reaching us today. So we are just seeing their past. Now imagine aliens on those galaxies equally peeking at our galaxy.

They will be seeing our future and not our past. And would we exist in the future? The universe is a mind boggling place. We would never understand it

I agree with everything u just said 100%, in fact, it feels like I typed what you just typed
Are you in Nigeria?

dazzlingd:
Our galaxy has several billions of stars. Our sun is just among the several billions and it has nine planets with one planet with life.

Tell me why there won’t be live in some of these solar systems among the several billions

There are several trillions of galaxies in the universe… so tell me why there won’t be live in several of these other galaxies

There are uncountable different beings in the universe and humans are just one of the several ones out there.

They might not even be from other planets but dimensions, they might even have a big city on this earth but we would not be able to see them because our sights are limited.... They can move between dimensions that's why one second they are here and in another, they are gone. I think they are different beings living on this earth in different dimensions, we as human don't have the ability to perceive and move from one to another. We are stuck in our dimensions unlike others. This is just my opinion

Crystalom5:
lolz.

You feel geo world in any way understands the animals and those animals understand them?

This is not about my feelings, It's about studying and understanding those animals.
Try listen to commentaries on those documentaries, humans understand every of their moves, action and social behaviours! It is the animals on the other hand that might find humans life complicated; same way you disapprove of Aliens'.

I am not an expert in alien minds. All I say can be reasoned logically.

whatever logic you're putting forward is best applicable to humans not Alien(am maxed-out on saying this). Human can never be subject to Ants logic!

The bigger you are on the scale, the more significantly varied your mind becomes and the more different your outlook on life will be.

Your goal at the moment is to make more money. But if you get more money, your goal will suddenly change and so will your outlook on life in general. The things you feel was important before (money) will suddenly feel like nothing.

Your outlook on life will be significantly different from Bill Gates outlook on life merely because he's ahead of you.

Where as your problems, he sees the problem of the world. In the same room, you and him will have different objectives.

While you are struggling to earn a living, he'll be struggling to better the lives of some strange kids in Africa.

In a purely, holistic view, this will feel like nonsense to you, you that is struggling to feed yourself and your family, he'll now tell you to send a million dollars to some stranger in Africa?

This same logic applies across the universe and between species. Regardless of the laws of conservation of wildlife, the lion will still kill a hyena because it doesn't see the bigger goal as you do

If eventually we upgrade ourselves and start traveling from earth to other planets, our goals will suddenly transform from saving the planet earth to others like getting more planets and even faster movements.

Then anyone talking about climate change, global warming and rising sea tides will seem like a foolish person.

What use is the earth, if we can all move to a bigger planet like jupiter?

If per chance we grow to intergalactic agents, our goals again will change. The bigger you get, the more different you become.

Aliens that could travel across galaxies will have goals that we cannot even begin to imagine. Talk more of super giant aliens whose singular movement from point A to point B could take as much as centuries in our time.

You understand the vastness of the Universe, the complicity and diversity of human minds even among humans; you're yet to fully understand even your viewable solar system, yet bold enough @bolded to subject the Whole Universe to your miniscule reasonings?!(I'm done with this argument.)

Bro, we can imagine aliens in millions of ways but we'll never know. If they are significantly above us such that they can reach us first, we will never understand them and if they are below us, then they will never reach us.

How can Ants, merely sighting humans or our cam-probes means they understand us?

As for the origin of life on earth, the most plausible and acceptable explanation is that life begins from inorganic elements.

These inorganic elements began combining in different ways to form the simplest cells which evolved over billions of years to complex organisms.

This is the best and most acceptable explanation in the scientific world.

Wrong! Evolutionist have none proof of how Inorganic morphed into Organic. If you have the most basic idea of how DNA works, you'll forever trash evolution theory.

Microbiology studies into the Origination of Life(cell); Evolutionist on the other hand studies the Developmental stages of Life from cell. Your knowledge is on Evolution.
Let me not engage you further - DNA is not in Evolution.

The one of life from outer space has not received much appraisal because even with recent meteors from space, none has shown any presence of life in them.

You don't expect tiny life forms to travel on meteor and locate Earth first. Rather it should be the more evolve humans that will explore and locate them first like these advance Aliens are doing to humans?

SporaD8:
This is not about my feelings, It's about studying and understanding those animals.
Try listen to commentaries on those documentaries, humans understand every of their moves, action and social behaviours! It is the animals on the other hand that might find humans life complicated; same way you disapprove of Aliens'.

whatever logic you're putting forward is best applicable to humans not Alien(am maxed-out on saying this). Human can never be subject to Ants logic!

You understand the vastness of the Universe, the complicity and diversity of human minds even among humans; you're yet to fully understand even your viewable solar system, yet bold enough @bolded to subject the Whole Universe to your miniscule reasonnig?!(I'm done with this argument.)

How can Ants, merely sighting humans or our cam-probes means they understand us?

Wrong! Evolutionist have none proof of how [b[Inorganic[/b] morphed into Organic. Microbiology studies into the Origination of Life(cell); Evolutionist on the other hand studies the Developmental stages of Life from cell. Your knowledge is on Evolution.
Let me not engage you further - DNA is not in Evolution.

You don't expect tiny life forms to travel on meteor and locate Earth first. Rather it should be the more evolve humans that will explore and locate them first like these advance Aliens are doing to humans?

you are not saying any significant here or logical other than trying to tear apart my thought process.

If you have been following my argument and not trying to twist my words, I have always stated it explicitly that we cannot and will never understand the universe.

And if life exists, we may never understand them.

That has been the premise of my argument but here you are twisting my words to suit yourself

Again, I evolution is the most plausible explanation for life on earth. And the only acceptable theory taught in schools elaborately.

Of course no one boast of knowing all the answers to how life began, if not other theories like creation wouldn't have existed.

But at the same time evolution is the most likely explanation and that's why we learn it every day.

Though we cannot follow it to point zero, but we can follow the growth of life, in reverse, from complex to simple organisms.

And look at you saying DNA is not evolution

Some of you just read half-baked information from conspiracy websites written by high school drop outs and feel you know it.

You feel DNA was transported on meteors from outer space?

You must be joking as I suspected.

The DNA is a 5 carbon sugar with phosphate base.

All of these elements (carbon, phosphate and nitrogenous base) are native to our planet.

There's nothing unique about the DNA to suggest that it cannot be formed here or that it came from another place.

The same native elements are found in the RNA which can copy the DNA in exact replica, I guess the RNA also came from outer space?

The RNA forms proteins (which are composed of mainly carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, native to earth), I guess the proteins are also from outer space?

Bro, everything for us to form a complete organism is right here.

Simply because we cannot do it now doesn't mean it fell from outer space.

And if life where to come from outer space, we should be composed of something unique that's not present on earth, but instead the majority of our building blocks (carbon, oxygen and nitrogen) are as abundant as air on earth.

Nothing in our genetic makeup (the DNA) suggests that we are from anywhere else but earth here.

Instead of reading conspiracy theories, pick up a biology textbook and read bro. You'd gain more from it.

Not only DNA from outer space, na God throwaway DNA come down

Crystalom5:
you are not saying any significant here or logical other than trying to tear apart my thought process.

If you have been following my argument and not trying to twist my words, I have always stated it explicitly that we cannot and will never understand the universe.

And if life exists, we may never understand them.

That has been the premise of my argument but here you are twisting my words to suit yourself

Again, I evolution is the most plausible explanation for life on earth. And the only acceptable theory taught in schools elaborately.

Of course no one boast of knowing all the answers to how life began, if not other theories like creation wouldn't have existed.

But at the same time evolution is the most likely explanation and that's why we learn it every day.

Though we cannot follow it to point zero, but we can follow the growth of life, in reverse, from complex to simple organisms.

And look at you saying DNA is not evolution

Some of you just read half-baked information from conspiracy websites written by high school drop outs and feel you know it.

You feel DNA was transported on meteors from outer space?

You must be joking as I suspected.

The DNA is a 5 carbon sugar with phosphate base.

All of these elements (carbon, phosphate and nitrogenous base) are native to our planet.

There's nothing unique about the DNA to suggest that it cannot be formed here or that it came from another place.

The same native elements are found in the RNA which can copy the DNA in exact replica, I guess the RNA also came from outer space?

The RNA forms proteins (which are composed of mainly carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, native to earth), I guess the proteins are also from outer space?

Bro, everything for us to form a complete organism is right here.

Simply because we cannot do it now doesn't mean it fell from outer space.

And if life where to come from outer space, we should be composed of something unique that's not present on earth, but instead the majority of our building blocks (carbon, oxygen and nitrogen) are as abundant as air on earth.

Nothing in our genetic makeup (the DNA) suggests that we are from anywhere else but earth here.

Instead of reading conspiracy theories, pick up a biology textbook and read bro. You'd gain more from it.

Not only DNA from outer space, na God throwaway DNA come down

Wow! I can see you have knowledge of the DNA, even RNA which cannot be replicated in Lab even under control, yet you believe they can just pair by chance and life happens!
Good luck with your belief.

SporaD8:
Wow! I can see you have knowledge of the DNA, even RNA which cannot be replicated in Lab even under control, yet you believe they can just pair by chance and life happens!
Good luck with your belief.

i should because we study them explicitly in year 2 med school.

Nothing within the cell has been successfully replicated. Life organics is quite hard to replicate and that's why people often believe in a 'spark' which powers life.

Because even if you assemble all the elements in the right way, life just doesn't happen. We don't know why yet.

Life seems to only come from life. We can grow a full human from just a single cell (read on dolly sheep) but we can't seem to bring a dead cell to life.

What escapes or changes, no one really knows but the day we are able to do that, trust me death will become a thing of the past.

And oh, we can actually now control how chromosomes combine. There's a full map of the human genome now and we match each characteristics to a specific gene.

What this means is that we can now decide if a child is to be born without an eye or an ear, all we need to do is knock off the gene that code for that feature...

It is still experimental stages though. A few centuries ago, the DNA was nothing. I believe a couple of centuries more, we would advance even further and maybe become like God (let there be life and there will be life, if you know what I mean).

Crystalom5:
And who have noticed that these aliens are usually based on movie characters?

The above aliens looked like a watered down version of alien characters from Men in Black movie.

But even more importantly, these aliens are "exact" replicas of ourselves.

Like us, they have hands and legs. They have head ontop their neck with two eyes in front and nose for breathing and mouth almost in the same position as us.

Now what's to make these aliens carry similar structures as ourselves?

What exactly is the alien breathing with the nose?

People create these things because there are people stupid enough to believe in them.

But here's the testing point, "it's hard for us to create things entirely different from ourselves".

Every imagination we get is entirely based on something we already know. We only distort it a little to make it look different.

Look at God, look at angels and even look at the devil. If we try to imagine any of them, we see the "human form" in them with only a few exceptions to glorify them.

Same with our superheroes and villains in movies. Look at the avatar movie. Despite the level of creativity, the aliens still have human forms. Look at the whole of star wars, all the aliens have human features with just a few changes.

The best way to know if an alien was "created" by people is to study the form and compare to things around us.

The supposed Alliens are actually wearing black dress... No wonder @op was trying hard to blindfold us with his imaginary proof authenticity...

The video is a replica of Challie Chaplain movies.

Crystalom5:
i should because we study them explicitly in year 2 med school.

Nothing within the cell has been successfully replicated. Life organics is quite hard to don't replicate (from Inorganic) and that's why people often believe in a 'spark' which powers life.

Because even if you assemble all the elements in the right way, life just doesn't happen. We don't know why yet.

Life seems to only come from life. We can grow a full human from just a single cell (read on dolly sheep) but we can't seem to bring a dead cell to life.

What escapes or changes, no one really knows but the day we are able to do that, trust me death will become a thing of the past.

And oh, we can actually now control how chromosomes combine. There's a full map of the human genome now and we match each characteristics to a specific gene.

What this means is that we can now decide if a child is to be born without an eye or an ear, all we need to do is knock off the gene that code for that feature...

It is still experimental stages though. A few centuries ago, the DNA was nothing. I believe a couple of centuries more, we would advance even further and maybe become like God (let there be life and there will be life, if you know what I mean).

Bolded is the reason why I can't engage you - you burn your candle from both ends so much so I am confused which side you stand.

SporaD8:
Bolded is the reason why I can't engage you - you burn your candle from both ends so much so I am confused which side you stand.

lolz. Maybe because I see further than you.

Because we don't understand it today doesn't mean that tomorrow we still can't understand it.

Organic is inorganic. All organic compounds consist of inorganic elements.

A few centuries ago scientists believe that no one can synthesize organic molecules because they are special.

It wasn't up to a decade after until we formed urea which is organic. Today, we create organic molecules that are not even found in any organism.

Today, we can synthesize all organic molecules in the lab.

Today, forming life may seem impossible, tomorrow it'll be possible.

josh123:
They might not even be from other planets but dimensions, they might even have a big city on this earth but we would not be able to see them because our sights are limited.... They can move between dimensions that's why one second they are here and in another, they are gone. I think they are different beings living on this earth in different dimensions, we as human don't have the ability to perceive and move from one to another. We are stuck in our dimensions unlike others. This is just my opinion

It is like a ripple and it moves like waves.
When you drop a stone inside a river, you see the ripple effect of the stone spreading from the center outwards. Each of these ripples are the dimensions, all happening on the same river.

Crystalom5:
lolz. Maybe because I see further than you.

On the contrary, you're myopic.

Because we don't understand it today doesn't mean that tomorrow we still can't understand it.

If tommorow humans eventually discovers the life-spark as natural phenomenon, like you, whatsoever life-form we created will also deny our existence and contribution, and argue they evolve from Inorganic matter! Not their fault, since microscopic sized life-form don't have the eye nor sense of human.

Organic is inorganic. All organic compounds consist of inorganic elements.

A few centuries ago scientists believe that no one can synthesize organic molecules because they are special.

It wasn't up to a decade after until we formed urea which is organic. Today, we create organic molecules that are not even found in any organism.

Today, we can synthesize all organic molecules in the lab.

Fact remains that - No matter the exactitude of the composition of an Organic-Matter, if it's not taken from an existing Organic-Matter, it remains Lifeless!

Today, forming life may seem impossible, tomorrow it'll be possible.

Lailai! Noone can form Life; only evolution - from Inorganic to organic!(No be me talk am oo!)

What's it with all these alien stuff

SporaD8:
On the contrary, you're myopic.

If tommorow humans eventually discovers the life-spark as natural phenomenon, like you, whatsoever life-form we created will also deny our existence and contribution, and argue they evolve from Inorganic matter!

Fact remains that - No matter the exactitude of the composition of an Organic-Matter, if it's not taken from an existing Organic-Matter, it remains Lifeless!


Lailai! Noone can form Life; only evolution - from Inorganic to organic!(No be me talk am oo!)

bordering on delusion now.

People like you once thought we couldn't fly, but here we are.

Who thought that computers as large as the room you're in now could one day fit into the palm of your hand?

People like you once thought we can't form glucose but now even secondary students can produce glucose in their labs.

Today we can grow people in the lab if we wish.

Tomorrow, it's only a matter of time before we become gods and create all living things as we desire. Nothing is impossible except to the myopic

Crystalom3:
bordering on delusion now.

People like you once thought we couldn't fly, but here we are.

People like you once thought we can't form glucose but now even secondary students can produce glucose in their labs.

Today we can grow people in the lab if we wish.

Tomorrow, it's only a matter of time before we become gods and create all living things as we desire. Nothing is impossible except to the myopic

Far be it from me that I, for once, denied any of your assertions @bolded!
Infact they form the basis of my argument against yours!
My only fear and argument is - after we get way far beyond those level you presented, any microscopic life-form we leave behind will deny our existence like you deny Aliens.

Please post bro

God bless you

OurTruth24:
I have posted alluding evidence of this in a previous thread. They did it with the secret Apollo 18 moon mission.

More interestingly, I have proof of astronauts exchanging correspondence with white house government officials about ongoing communication with Extraterrestrials.

If you are interested in that I'll post evidence.

I’ve just watched the clip of this school

Thanks man

OurTruth24:
There are also other sightings from other Africans and Nigerians like yourself. Most notable the school sightings by the Zimbabwe school kids that was even documented by the BBC. Even my mother had an encounter years ago in her village.

But ignorant idiots who have done no research whatsoever will come on my threads and say "Why is it only Americans and white people seeing UFOs. Why not Africans?"

Ignorance truly is a disease.

dazzlingd:
It is like a ripple and it moves like waves.
When you drop a stone inside a river, you see the ripple effect of the stone spreading from the center outwards. Each of these ripples are the dimensions, all happening on the same river.

you are correct

Crystalom5:
at the moment, arguing about life in other places is like arguing both sides of a mobius stripe. Both arguments will be correct because we may never know.

Because of the vastness of the universe, there are already some points that are so far out of our reach that everything across them are regarded as lost forever.

In the best effort, we'll never be able to reach them because relative to us now, they are traveling almost at the speed of light.

This is why I say we'll never know.

Secondly, the universe might be so unique that no two point can be exactly alike. In that case, earth is so unique that there's nothing like it out there.

Or it could be repetited and at every galactic interval, there's a planet exactly like earth with all of its goodness.

Or we could be living in the past of the universe and not in the present as we think. After all, most of the things we observed from outer space are things that have already happened millions of years ago and we are just seeing them. In fact, some of the galaxies we are seeing today have left that place millions of years ago, only their light are reaching us today. So we are just seeing their past. Now imagine aliens on those galaxies equally peeking at our galaxy.

They will be seeing our future and not our past. And would we exist in the future? The universe is a mind boggling place. We would never understand it

Wow I love this , have you seen the movie umbrella Academy??