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Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by CheapHomes1: 8:41am On Jan 03, 2023
GboyegaD:
I guess this election is going to be interesting. I guess those leading Atiku are not been truthful to him. He should have found a way to reach a truce with them than acting like he doesn't care when we all know he's so concerned about their actions.
Did Atiku not look for a way to reach a truce with them?
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Khallicopyro: 8:41am On Jan 03, 2023
They can go as far as a car can go with its two front tires deflated...
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by asobo1: 8:45am On Jan 03, 2023
LegalWolf:
I have previously asked this question before and I think the G5 will adversely affect PDP chances a lot. Let us break it down in a state-by-state analysis.

Rivers

This is one of the most powerful strongholds of PDP. Given what we see on ground, Wike commands a large followership because it appears he has done well. Now add the fact that he has access to resources (13% derivative + normal revenue - IGR + repaid moneys owed by FG = massive war chest). There is NO WAY on earth any of the people working for Atiku in Rivers State can match that.

Verdict: Atiku chances are gone in Rivers

Oyo

Oyo story is similar to Rivers but slightly different. Makinde has done well and also commands large followership. However, he does not have the war chest of a Wike and there are still gladiators in Oyo politics that can pull funds together to salvage Atiku.

Verdict: Atiku votes will be slightly affected (Not that he can win Oyo state on a norms. To my knowledge, he has never won the state)

Benue

This is where it gets interesting. Unlike the previous two, Ortom is a disaster. Coupled with the fact that Benue is a BROKE state. Now add the fact that powerful men in the State are in support of Atiku. I would not be surprise if Atiku wins the state.

However, I am not unaware of the sentiments on ground. The media has so much tarnished the Fulani image and it is possible sentiments are whipped to campaign against Atiku. Benue promises to be interesting to watch.

Verdict: Indifferent

Abia and Enugu

I will do a joint analysis due to the similarities of both States. The chances of Atiku in these states are slim not necessarily because of G5, but Peter Obi. However, as the question relates to G5, I think the governors not working for Atiku will dim the very slight chances he has in those states. He cannot and would not win those states unfortunately....

2023 will be interesting as it will demystify so many people and unravel many things. Let us see how it will go
So unfortunate that with how articulated your write up is, you ended up messing it up to say with the best of your knowledge, Atiku has never won Oyo state. I laugh in Swahili because I don't know who your preferred presidential candidate is but just bothered about how many people you must have misinformed during this electioneering season. Please always make research before putting up post like this. In summary, your write up falls short of every empirical data and evidence. So, if Wike withholds his money, Atiku/PDP won't mobilize their men in the state right?
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Jones4190(m): 8:47am On Jan 03, 2023
Vinnie2000:
As things stand, Atiku Abubakar and PDP have already FAILED in the Presidential election. undecided

The Only thing dat can Salvage their Hopeless situation is TO WHIP HEAVY RELIGIOUS AND ETHNIC SENTIMENTS in Northern Nigeria.
Atiku has to use BBC Hausa and Imams Propaganda to claim he is being Victimized and oppressed by Southerners and all Hausas and Fulanis should vote him! sad

This is the hope Atiku Has. sad

But in this 2023 election,
*South-south/ South-east- 90% Peter Obi
*South West- 70%Tinubu
*Middle Belt- 100% Peter Obi
*North-Atiku 50%, Tinubu 30% and Peter Obi 20%.

So PETER OBI wins it! smiley
name me one state in middle belt state that you think obi will win?
Nassawa, APC has National chairman, three formal governors, a sitting governor, three senator, 5 HOR and twenty state assembly are all behind tinubu, How can obi get 100%

platue state, APC has the sitting governor who double himself as the DG to tinubu, 1 formal governor, two senators, many HOR, 17 out of 25 state assembly, how can obi get 100%

in Benue my own state, The code is very simple, "YES FATHER'' go and verify even ortom is not sure of going to senate, he is fighting with Jembagh son (AYU).
jembagh has 3 out of 7 locals government ortom want to represent, we are waiting for him in February.
I don't want to mention Niger, kogi and Kwara state, obi will not get up to 15% vote.

obi is not wise at all, if you notice it both APC and PDP are avoiding the G5 state but your guy rush to go and campaign in river state what will happen if wike adopt him as their prefer candidate, will he go back there for another campaign?
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by DanAugust2021: 8:48am On Jan 03, 2023
asobo1:
Your opinion though but who are they G-5 withholding funds for campaign? Aside Wike, whatever the remaining four governor's which to contribute, Gov Diri, Gov Udom and Gov Okowa will triple the amount. Are you kidding yourself grin
When Atiku himself is not spending money, is it the governors you mentioned that will spend money when they are not even sure of Atiku in their respective states?
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Aiel123: 8:50am On Jan 03, 2023
Fiscus105:
You think Yoruba PDP in Oyo will for fulani for another 8 years?

Even if Makinde support Atiku, he will still not be able to win 25%.
He will.
Don't underrate Makinde in Oyo politics
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by asobo1: 8:52am On Jan 03, 2023
DanAugust2021:
When Atiku himself is not spending money, is it the governors you mentioned that will spend money when they are not even sure of Atiku in their respective states?
Money will be spent at the right time. Imagine mobilizing people last year and the end up using the money to chop life during the festive season. I laugh when I see people saying Atiku doesn't want to spend money. The same person people have labeled as money spender. So calm down, there are several behind the scene activities going on.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Sammy07: 8:55am On Jan 03, 2023
Jones4190:
name me one state in middle belt state that you think obi will win?
Nassawa, APC has National chairman, three formal governors, a sitting governor, three senator, 5 HOR and twenty state assembly are all behind tinubu, How can obi get 100%

platue state, APC has the sitting governor who double himself as the DG to tinubu, 1 formal governor, two senators, many HOR, 17 out of 25 state assembly, how can obi get 100%

in Benue my own state, The code is very simple, "YES FATHER'' go and verify even ortom is not sure of going to senate, he is fighting with Jembagh son (AYU).
jembagh has 3 out of 7 locals government ortom want to represent, we are waiting for him in February.
I don't want to mention Niger, kogi and Kwara state, obi will not get up to 15% vote.

obi is not wise at all, if you notice it both APC and PDP are avoiding the G5 state but your guy rush to go and campaign in river state what will happen if wike adopt him as their prefer candidate, will he go back there for another campaign?
Omo, seems you are correct in your last paragraph.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Aiel123: 8:57am On Jan 03, 2023
Sammy07:
Only governorship election cheesy
To some extent I agree with you.
The presidency isn't looking rosy for PDP now. I myself is a PDP diehard.No need to decieve yourself.
A good showing in the governorship elections can help revive the highly fractured PDP.
Matching APC in the governorship election means they stand a chance in 2027.2023: own is tied to how far AA can go in the north plus concentrating on splashing and breaking the bank in SS to counter PO effects.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Sammy07: 9:03am On Jan 03, 2023
Aiel123:
To some extent I agree with you.
The presidency isn't looking rosy for PDP now. I myself is a PDP diehard.No need to decieve yourself.
A good showing in the governorship elections can help revive the highly fractured PDP.
Matching APC in the governorship election means they stand a chance in 2027.2023: own is tied to how far AA can go in the north plus concentrating on splashing and breaking the bank in SS to counter PO effects.
Accurate.

AA can't contest again in 2027, their coming back, if they like make them no bring reasonable candidate or put their party together
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Ayosman1: 9:05am On Jan 03, 2023
My broda better madness dem bi. The same delta state when be our own, them say Atiku nor go win na Obi, we dey wait for them. When Atiku win this election it will sent a signal to Yoruba people who are going about celebrating Wike for insulting Atiku who did him no wrong.. idiotic governor wikebe. He will be severely dealt with at the appropriate time


ogascomax:
The question I ask some myopic and sentimental clown that will say G5 none support will influence the election in their States. I asked them since we are in Delta is it Okowa that is influencing your vote? The answer is always no but they will want to foolishly insist that G5 governors will affect greatly PDP chances. Some people are just too stupid and dull. Labour party has no governor and they are tipping LP for victory and the one with governors they think they would lose. No be madness be that.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Aiel123: 9:07am On Jan 03, 2023
asobo1:
Your opinion though but who are they G-5 withholding funds for campaign? Aside Wike, whatever the remaining four governor's which to contribute, Gov Diri, Gov Udom and Gov Okowa will triple the amount. Are you kidding yourself grin
You see people underrating my governor are not wise politically for the financial warchest from Akwa Ibom and Delta will neutralize what Wike can pull.
This poll will be heavily monetized
For PDP in the SS, this is make or mar election.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Aiel123: 9:09am On Jan 03, 2023
Sammy07:
Accurate.

AA can't contest again in 2027, their coming back, if they like make them no bring reasonable candidate or put their party together
PDP will always be PDP!
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by BlackKafka: 9:10am On Jan 03, 2023
Vinnie2000:
As things stand, Atiku Abubakar and PDP have already FAILED in the Presidential election. undecided

The Only thing dat can Salvage their Hopeless situation is TO WHIP HEAVY RELIGIOUS AND ETHNIC SENTIMENTS in Northern Nigeria.
Atiku has to use BBC Hausa and Imams Propaganda to claim he is being Victimized and oppressed by Southerners and all Hausas and Fulanis should vote him! sad

This is the hope Atiku Has. sad

But in this 2023 election,
*South-south/ South-east- 90% Peter Obi
*South West- 70%Tinubu
*Middle Belt- 100% Peter Obi
*North-Atiku 50%, Tinubu 30% and Peter Obi 20%.

So PETER OBI wins it! smiley
A very optimistic outlook for PO would be as follows:

SS: PO by 45% (Both Atiku and Tinubu would pull strings here, albeit more to Atiku's favour)
SE: PO by 80% (PO has home advantage)
SW: PO by 18% (Asides Lagos, I just dont see PO doing well in say major towns like Ondo town, Akure, Iseyin, Ogbomoso, Oyo town, Ile Ife etc)
NC: PO by 20% (Asides Plateau, Benue and Taraba, the rest NC states like Kwara, Kogi and Niger are not swaying to PO; of the 3 states He would get, He would still have to battle with APC & PDP)
NW: PO by 12% (Very limited chances for PO)
NE: PO by 8% (Very limited chances for PO)

At best , PO would get the needed 25% in 15 states (6 in SS, 5 in SE, 3 in NC, maybe 1 in SW) - far shy of the 25 states needed. Thus far, PO's VP looks like a lightweight up-north - I don't see him having the kind of sway Okowa can pull in the SS, or Shettima can pull in the NE.

The battle is ultimately between AA and BAT. While Atiku would be facing a major challenge from the Wike camp, He is still very capable of a last minute upset . . . but it would be tough.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Thomasankara(m): 9:15am On Jan 03, 2023
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Vinnie2000:
As things stand, Atiku Abubakar and PDP have already FAILED in the Presidential election. undecided

The Only thing dat can Salvage their Hopeless situation is TO WHIP HEAVY RELIGIOUS AND ETHNIC SENTIMENTS in Northern Nigeria.
Atiku has to use BBC Hausa and Imams Propaganda to claim he is being Victimized and oppressed by Southerners and all Hausas and Fulanis should vote him! sad

This is the hope Atiku Has. sad

But in this 2023 election,
*South-south/ South-east- 90% Peter Obi
*South West- 70%Tinubu
*Middle Belt- 100% Peter Obi
*North-Atiku 50%, Tinubu 30% and Peter Obi 20%.

So PETER OBI wins it! smiley
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by JOemmy(m): 9:16am On Jan 03, 2023
I don't think buhari will allow wike and his recent recruited 200,000 paid thugs stop rivers people from voting for candidates of their choice.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Aiel123: 9:18am On Jan 03, 2023
DanAugust2021:
When Atiku himself is not spending money, is it the governors you mentioned that will spend money when they are not even sure of Atiku in their respective states?
Whoever wins presidential election in states 90% usually ends up winning the subsequent governorship election in the state.
Politicians don't reason as the masses do.
Infact the battle for the governorship begin on the presidential election...
If PDP loses Delta and SS in presidential election,then know the governorship election will be almost thesame
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Babastrong(m): 9:26am On Jan 03, 2023
Apart from kudi, owo or ego.
A court has always formed itself around the person in power (king, queen, emperor, leader, etc). The courtiers who in this court have to serve and submit to their master's order.
But those nyamiri who have no idea of power will say they(g5) have only 5 votes. They don't know these people have courtiers who will follow them to any where.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Ayosman1: 9:27am On Jan 03, 2023
Atiku is winning this election. Who brought governor of Kaduna state to politics when he was made minister of FCT, Atiku Abubakar, go do your verification. Atiku brought Soludo as CBN governor, Atiku recommended Iwella as minister of finance and many more. The massive vote Atiku will get in the north will be a shocker to many people. Most of the APC governors are not with Tinubu, even the presidentency, with the level of involvement it tells alot of underground work going on.
I love the north kind of politics, them don't make noise, but on election the will silence the south region
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Jones4190(m): 9:31am On Jan 03, 2023
Sammy07:
Omo, seems you are correct in your last paragraph.
not even river state oo, the same to Benue too, at it is now I can bet any amount that obi will not come second in this election, he is failing in his strategies, politics is a game, you have home and away match, the are some state that favor you while others are not for you, he visits Kwara state and meet empty stadium which is not for you, instead of visiting one of the Igbo speaking state that is for you to balance the equation you still go to river that is under speculation and meet another empty stadium, that is wrong move.
Look at atiku for instance when he visits Lagos and meet empty stadium, he quickly return to north and balance the equation
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by CBR100: 9:51am On Jan 03, 2023
Vinnie2000:
Ogbeni, Stop Deceiving urself dis Morning! undecided

APC is NOT winning single state or even LG in South South. sad

*Edo
*Delta
*Bayelsa
*Akwa Ibom.
*Rivers
*Cross Rivers
Are all for PETER OBI OF LP. Why will any sensible southerner vote APChuh

*Anambra
*Imo
*Enugu
*Abia
*Ebonyi.
Are also for PETER OBI OF LP. Don't allow Uzodimma and Umahi to decieve you. sad

Taraba
Benue
Plateau
Nassarawa
Are also for PETER OBI OF LP.

Lagos State (45%) is for PETER OBI. smiley

Then for the Core North, Votes will be Shared between Tinubu, Atiku, Peter Obi and Kwankwanso.

So, Just Rest. Peter Obi is your Next President, OK? sad smiley
Obi is too weak in the north (dat his vp no get any influence)

I no obi cannot win the election, Buh am really curious on the amount of total vote and state he is going to win

(Let see weda it can match buhari CPC tym)
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by KingLennon(m): 9:52am On Jan 03, 2023
kenbee:
Definitely, the activities of the G5 governors is going to affect PDP negatively and it is already awakening the political consciousness in the citizens which may likely sway votes to Peter Obi's LP

By-the-way, I'm Obidient!
I love OBIdient ladies, they are smart and less stressful to deal with.


Obi is coming....
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by ufuosman(m): 11:56am On Jan 03, 2023
Ruggedniggaone:
It won't have much effect on Atiku because irrespective of who they work for pdp will still come second at worse from their states because it's only seyi makinde that is fighting Atiku oyo pdp never said they won't work for Atiku and even if wike work for tinubu he may still not come second in river state unless wike will be forcing people at gun point to vote for his muslim muslim tickets.ortorm will not have much impact in who will win Benue because Atiku still has large % of the strong politician in Benue that are still supporting him like David Mark, Gabriel suswan,Ayu and others. the other two state will not be different,they are only following wike because they don't want to betray him but they won't work against Atiku because they are also contesting for senate.all Atiku has to do is to get bulk votes from both north west and north east and try to come second in other zones
Well said
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Duru009(m): 12:39pm On Jan 03, 2023
Emeskhalifa:
It's quite ironic how "the unifier" cannot even unite his party yet thinks he can unite Nigeria cry
You don't EXPECT him to go against the Party's CONSTITUTION to satisfy the selfishness of just few people.....
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by asobo1: 12:45pm On Jan 03, 2023
DanAugust2021:
Good analysis.
Good analysis from someone who said from the best of his knowledge, Atiku has never won Oyo State. Only on nairaland will you see self acclaimed political analyst with little to nothing knowledge on politics. Kindly go and verify the results from 2019 presidential elections in Oyo state before praising what is not. T for thanks
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by asobo1: 12:46pm On Jan 03, 2023
CheapHomes1:
Did Atiku not look for a way to reach a truce with them?
Help me ask them oooh. Wike and his gang of comedians can't fool all of us at the same time.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by asobo1: 12:47pm On Jan 03, 2023
Aiel123:
You see people underrating my governor are not wise politically for the financial warchest from Akwa Ibom and Delta will neutralize what Wike can pull.
This poll will be heavily monetized
For PDP in the SS, this is make or mar election.
What state are you from?
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by GboyegaD(m): 1:30pm On Jan 03, 2023
CheapHomes1:
Did Atiku not look for a way to reach a truce with them?
He needs them more so he needs do more.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by CheapHomes1: 2:48pm On Jan 03, 2023
GboyegaD:
He needs them more so he needs do more.
You didn't answer the question. Did Atiku not look for a way to reach a truce with them?
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by Aiel123: 2:55pm On Jan 03, 2023
asobo1:
What state are you from?
The big heart
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by GboyegaD(m): 5:12pm On Jan 03, 2023
CheapHomes1:
You didn't answer the question. Did Atiku not look for a way to reach a truce with them?
I don't know what answer you are expecting other than he needs do more.
Re: How Far Can PDP Go Without The G-5? by CheapHomes1: 5:27pm On Jan 03, 2023
GboyegaD:
I don't know what answer you are expecting other than he needs do more.
That's not what I asked. Did Atiku not look for a way to reach a truce with them? simple yes or no
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