sonnie10:

Let me give you just 2 examples of what happened the last time was I was there.
I went to that Mr Biggs at Maryland by Anthony to buy ice cream. There were 4-5 of us in the queue. I was next. From nowhere, this big man just walked straight to the counter with total disregard to us. I said never, not my turn. You could see the shock on peoples faces. Like, who gave me the gut to challenge a “big man.”
The other one is the condition of toilets at the Airport. People would go in there and do their thing anyhow. Everywhere was dirty.
Now tell me, in these situations, what role does the government have in guiding against them?

what role does the government have in guiding against them? Plenty.

I will use the UK and by implication the USA as an example of the role of the government in such situation. Or better put, the evidence of a strong institution.

In the UK we have HSE - Health and Safety Executive. HSE is a legal act (institution) that guarantee the minimum standard of safety and (health) hygiene of public/private organisations. The managers of the airport toilet know that HSE is a very strong regulatory institution (body) that will not hesitate to impose the appropriate sanction on the airport including closing some section of the airport if not all the airport due to dirty toilets which is a threat to public health. If this happens heads will roll, so the managers ensure the toilets are regularly cleaned. Home and abroad, people mess up toilets. It is not only in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, the toilets are dirty, the officials are largely corrupt, facilities don't work (air conditioning) due to weak regulatory institutions. I can hazard a guess that in the USA, you probably know a body (institution) you would call if your local airport toilet is a threat to public health and you will make that call in confidence that the body will act. In Nigeria, who will you call in confidence to act. Nigeria is a geographical contraption where no one is in charge.

michlins:
the big man was able to do it because he cut the line at traffic while coming there. Let's say he did something similar and he was held to order and punished,he wouldn't want such embarrassment at Mr Biggs.

Same goes for the toilet thing. Strong institution is what Nigeria needs

"Strong institution" cost money. It costs civilized nations money to discipline their citizens. Incarceration is not cheap, unless you guys are advocating for capital punishment.
The best way for Nigeria is to build strong moral values. This should start from the family. Raise the kids to know right from wrong. Do this, and the future will take care of itself.

twinskenny:


Wow this can be frustrating

Yes, the tiler said he needed to make the floor flat and not slopping.

If I insisted on keeping the door, the tiles floor would slope.

So I said, no please, let it be flat.

diordaves:


In Nigeria, who will you call in confidence to act. Nigeria is a geographical contraption where no one is in charge.

There is more.

Where those close to power or in power can use such access to build great personal wealth.

So it doesn't matter if things work as they should so long as the purpose above is fulfilled.

Thats why once you are admitted to that exclusive club, you can no longer criticize the hands that keep you financially afloat.

Unless you want to be expelled

nwaorlu:


"Strong institution" cost money. It costs civilized nations money to discipline their citizens. Incarceration is not cheap, unless you guys are advocating for capital punishment.
The best way for Nigeria is to build strong moral values. This should start from the family. Raise the kids to know right from wrong. Do this, and the future will take care of itself.

Nigeria prefers strong men to strong institutions

It is not going to change anytime soon

Nigeria also has a way of destroying moral values.

Ask those who stood in line for hours and saw those who offered as little as 500 or 1000 to the gate men to jump the queue during the last fuel crises.

nwaorlu:


"Strong institution" cost money. It costs civilized nations money to discipline their citizens. Incarceration is not cheap, unless you guys are advocating for capital punishment.
The best way for Nigeria is to build strong moral values. This should start from the family. Raise the kids to know right from wrong. Do this, and the future will take care of itself.

Too much sense in this post. I love it.

Patriot9:

Good evening boss.
Here is the ground floor pla of the project I am currently embarking on. Although it's still at foundation level.
But before I proceed further and release more funds, what adjustment do you suggest that I can make to make it more beautiful.

Secondly I noticed that the remaining two rooms are not ensuite, even though I was told that all the rooms are ensuite.
Please I am currently far away from the location of the project.

2 rooms are definitely not en-suite... What I feel he can do is to change the position of the bathroom doors, take them inside the rooms...change the entrance position of room 2

sonnie10:

Too much sense in this post. I love it.

Seconded!!

redgem:



I'm sorry to prý but I'm just curious, what do you actually do?

Multi tasking/ General contractor

diordaves:


what role does the government have in guiding against them? Plenty.

I will use the UK and by implication the USA as an example of the role of the government in such situation. Or better put, the evidence of a strong institution.

In the UK we have HSE - Health and Safety Executive. HSE is a legal act (institution) that guarantee the minimum standard of safety and (health) hygiene of public/private organisations. The managers of the airport toilet know that HSE is a very strong regulatory institution (body) that will not hesitate to impose the appropriate sanction on the airport including closing some section of the airport if not all the airport due to dirty toilets which is a threat to public health. If this happens heads will roll, so the managers ensure the toilets are regularly cleaned. Home and abroad, people mess up toilets. It is not only in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, the toilets are dirty, the officials are largely corrupt, facilities don't work (air conditioning) due to weak regulatory institutions. I can hazard a guess that in the USA, you probably know a body (institution) you would call if your local airport toilet is a threat to public health and you will make that call in confidence that the body will act. In Nigeria, who will you call in confidence to act. Nigeria is a geographical contraption where no one is in charge.

Imagine having Servicom in offices of NIS, airports where extortions and begging for money permeated.

redgem:


Okay Sir... Buying already made or buying the materials and giving to an installer to install, which is advisable?

Buying the materials is the best option, the already made is covered you don't know the board that's been used. There is possibility of it been compromised.

Note: please I sale hdf boards and other plywoods with the accessories too. Thanks

nwaorlu:


"Strong institution" cost money. It costs civilized nations money to discipline their citizens. Incarceration is not cheap, unless you guys are advocating for capital punishment.
The best way for Nigeria is to build strong moral values. This should start from the family. Raise the kids to know right from wrong. Do this, and the future will take care of itself.

the family part is long gone. It's water under the bridge already. It's capital punishment where necessary or incarceration

hslbroker2:


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michlins:
the family part is long gone. It's water under the bridge already. It's capital punishment where necessary or incarceration

Would you support having private prisons in Nigeria? Like say, Michlins Prisons Nigeria Ltd?

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diordaves:


what role does the government have in guiding against them? Plenty.

I will use the UK and by implication the USA as an example of the role of the government in such situation. Or better put, the evidence of a strong institution.

In the UK we have HSE - Health and Safety Executive. HSE is a legal act (institution) that guarantee the minimum standard of safety and (health) hygiene of public/private organisations. The managers of the airport toilet know that HSE is a very strong regulatory institution (body) that will not hesitate to impose the appropriate sanction on the airport including closing some section of the airport if not all the airport due to dirty toilets which is a threat to public health. If this happens heads will roll, so the managers ensure the toilets are regularly cleaned. Home and abroad, people mess up toilets. It is not only in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, the toilets are dirty, the officials are largely corrupt, facilities don't work (air conditioning) due to weak regulatory institutions. I can hazard a guess that in the USA, you probably know a body (institution) you would call if your local airport toilet is a threat to public health and you will make that call in confidence that the body will act. In Nigeria, who will you call in confidence to act. Nigeria is a geographical contraption where no one is in charge.

"Government" is just a name.

Nigerians are in these institutions

When we say government, we should know that we are talking about Nigerians.

It's only Nigerians that can strengthen institutions when we all agree to stop being lawless.

Again, I repeat, average Nigerians work in "institutions" and are the ones expected to enforce the so called laws (These average Nigerians are the ones actually breaking these laws by taking bribes, cutting corners or giving bribes).

A good Nigeria without good Nigerians is a pipe dream.


There's nothing like a strong institution if the staff and public servants of these institutions remain with the current Nigerian mindset.

FEGEITOK:


Nigeria prefers strong men to strong institutions

It is not going to change anytime soon

Nigeria also has a way of destroying moral values.

Ask those who stood in line for hours and saw those who offered as little as 500 or 1000 to the gate men to jump the queue during the last fuel crises.

The last time I queued to get fuel, something similar happened. Someone came in from the "exit" route to cut the line (offered bribe).

God bear me witness, I didn't allow this happen, I was at the pump at the top of my voice making sure he never succeeded. Was able to get few more voices from the queue even to the extent the attendant was overwhelmed.

An average Nigerian is built to cut corners, so most can't stand against anyone doing the same out of guilt.

A strong institution is only possible if those working there are morally okay (from the top to bottom) with the masses ready to comply.

We know what the media did against the government that tried building strong institutions some years back.

somehow:


The last time I queued to get fuel, something similar happened. Someone came in from the "exit" route to cut the line (offered bribe).

God bear me witness, I didn't allow this happen, I was at the pump at the top of my voice making sure he never succeeded. Was able to get few more voices from the queue even to the extent the attendant was overwhelmed.

An average Nigerian is built to cut corners, so most can't stand against anyone doing the same out of guilt.

A strong institution is only possible if those working there are morally okay (from the top to bottom) with the masses ready to comply.

We know what the media did against the government that tried building strong institutions some years back.

But let’s also remember that morality is relative to culture, religion and societal norm. In a country like Nigeria with wide diversity, what is considered moral in one place might be immoral in another.

sonnie10:

But let’s also remember that morality is relative to culture, religion and societal norm. In a country like Nigeria with wide diversity, what is considered moral in one place might be immoral in another.

Morality in Nigeria is almost similar.

Maybe another country: Yes, but I don't think jumping queue or giving/taking bribe aren't national issues in Nigeria.

These issues are same all over Nigeria.

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somehow:


Morality in Nigeria is almost similar.

Maybe another country: Yes, but I don't think jumping queue or giving/taking bribe aren't national issues in Nigeria.

These issues are same all over Nigeria.

Let me ask you a few within Nigeria that are not the same
Do you think female circumcision aka FGM is right?
Do you think allowing children to beg on the street is right?
Do you think not bowing or kneeling to greet your parents is right?
Do you think sending minors to learn trade (boy boy ) is right?
Do you think not giving female children inheritance is right?
Do you think drinking alcohol in moderation is right?
Do you think child marriage is right?

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Wisedove:
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An insight is needed in making a cost effective choice please.

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Or

6 inches blocks with pillars/columns

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Wishing the best of 2023 to all contractors.

somehow:


"Government" is just a name.

Nigerians are in these institutions

When we say government, we should know that we are talking about Nigerians.

It's only Nigerians that can strengthen institutions when we all agree to stop being lawless.

Again, I repeat, average Nigerians work in "institutions" and are the ones expected to enforce the so called laws (These average Nigerians are the ones actually breaking these laws by taking bribes, cutting corners or giving bribes).

A good Nigeria without good Nigerians is a dream pipe.


There's nothing like a strong institutions if the staff and public servants of these institutions remain with the current Nigerian mindset.

"Government" is just a name? No Sir.

The government are the selected individuals given the MANDATE to govern and administrate by the people through a fair democratic process. Some government wrest this mandate through coup, war, militancy, brigandage, hereditary monarchy etc. So government is not just a name. It is a mandate given by the people to selected individuals to manage the affairs of a nation. These individuals (civil servants) of the people are expected to build institutions (vehicles) or manage existing institutions to make the nation work for the people. Everybody cannot be government or else there will be chaos.

In a nation where the selected individuals with the mandate to govern fail to build strong effective institutions, that nation will not deliver for the majority of the people. Nigeria is not working for the majority because the state institutions are largely weak and consequently ineffective:

The security institution is weak - hence crime and banditry.
The energy institution is weak - hence power blackout
The education institution is weak - hence poor literacy rate
The health institution is weak - hence citizens still die from malaria a sickness, N500 will cure.

I can go on and on to highlight the failure of statecraft at many levels. Nigeria is not working for the majority of the people. Nigeria is an amalgam of weak institutions deliberately constructed by the selected few to hold on perpetually to the corridors of power (the national cake).

A good Nigeria without good Nigerians is a dream pipe? The majority of Nigerians are good people, so I will reframe this statement:

A good Nigeria without good governance (strong institutions) is a pipe dream.

aieromon:
First timer in this part of town.

I want to express my appreciation to @gbadexy for his detailed communication and prompt delivery of services.

Wishing the best of 2023 to all contractors.

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diordaves:


"Government" is just a name? No Sir.

The government are the selected individuals given the MANDATE to govern and administrate by the people through a fair democratic process. Some government wrest this mandate through coup, war, militancy, brigandage, hereditary monarchy etc. So government is not just a name. It is a mandate given by the people to selected individuals to manage the affairs of a nation. These individuals (civil servants) of the people are expected to build institutions (vehicles) or manage existing institutions to make the nation work for the people. Everybody cannot be government or else there will be chaos.

In a nation where the selected individuals with the mandate to govern fail to build strong effective institutions, that nation will not deliver for the majority of the people. Nigeria is not working for the majority because the state institutions are largely weak and consequently ineffective:

The security institution is weak - hence crime and banditry.
The energy institution is weak - hence power blackout
The education institution is weak - hence poor literacy rate
The health institution is weak - hence citizens still die from malaria a sickness, N500 will cure.

I can go on and on to highlight the failure of statecraft at many levels. Nigeria is not working for the majority of the people. Nigeria is an amalgam of weak institutions deliberately constructed by the selected few to hold on perpetually to the corridors of power (the national cake).

A good Nigeria without good Nigerians is a dream pipe? The majority of Nigerians are good people, so I will reframe this statement:

A good Nigeria without good governance (strong institutions) is a pipe dream.

Government is a name given to selected "Nigerians" from "Nigeria" to lead the rest of us in Nigeria.

They represent and interpret our core values and interests.

So, I repeat, government is just a name. The people in government aren't different from the people they lead.

This is my point when I say government is just a name.

Alot is being washed under this name.

If the majority are truly good, why then is the country the way it is?

Why does the majority always end up being led by the minority?

Reality doesn't agree with you.
Infact, the streets do not agree with you.
majority are selfish people and they most often have the day.

sonnie10:

Let me ask you a few within Nigeria that are not the same
Do you think female circumcision aka FGM is right?
Do you think allowing children to beg on the street is right?
Do you think not bowing or kneeling to greet your parents is right?
Do you think sending minors to learn trade (boy boy ) is right?
Do you think not giving female children inheritance is right?
Do you think drinking alcohol in moderation is right?
Do you think child marriage is right?

FGM being right or wrong is more of western influence. It's still being practiced all over Nigeria, just that some are more prone than the others.

Begging on the street is also all over Nigeria but prone in some regions than the others.

Greeting your parents are in different ways, might differ but they all have ways of honoring parents except a minute few.

Those who do this are mostly those who do not have the financial means to send them to school. Majority are sending their children to school now.

Like I said, they have similar cultures but with slight differences

We all can't 100% do the same, just as we have variations in language/dialects.

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First timer in this part of town.

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Wishing the best of 2023 to all contractors.

Thank you very much for your patronage.
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