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What you said is true, to get students visa to UK is easier, also there's no special language certificate for Nigerians.
The other countries you mentioned are very good..... but that Germany my sis has been struggling to pass the B1 exams for over 1yr now but all to no avail infact she's kind of defastated after spending almost 4m in the process just to pass this B1 language stuff.

Moye715:
Cus we are back to the days of slavery, this time in a deliberate way. UK economy is much dependent on black manpower not even now that they're out of EU so they'll have to get it with any means possible. Foolish Nigerians are rushing over there with the "better life" mantra. This is what you get when ur history is deprived from you, you'll have a generation that doesn't know who they are, where they are coming from also no idea of where they are going.. It's a shame!!
Nigerians are for sale on the global labour market.
Are you a commodity to be bought?

The black race freedom will come suddenly and unexpectedly..

BabaAgba79:
All Europe na scam! All Nigerians running to Europe and America have poor mindsets! Honestly, I really wish all these countries close their gates against all Africans! Nigerians are so inferior, shallow-minded, materialistic and unpatriotic! 90% are desperate and lazy! All they desire is easy life! Go to Europe, life is very difficult! I ran away from the UK because of nothing to boast of! I came to Nigeria more than 8 years ago and I am so happy I did! I get everything in Nigeria! Everything! UK is a boring state! English people are mostly illitrate! Nigerians, Pakistanis, Indians are their servants! They work for them. They are their providers! Most English people are getting free money from their government! The money brought from Asia and Africa. Naira can never rise! Yen can never rise above pounds and dollar! This is Neo-colonialism! African leaders, I blame u! It is ur fault! It is ur fault Buhari! It is ur fault! Nothing in Europe! Nothing in the UK!

Broda you really capture the person of an average Nigerian.

dplordx:
I’ve been to France, loved Marseille and most of the people speak English, although not fluently.
Cool people and great food but too many Arabs. I’d rather live in France than UK. I regret not focusing on my French classes back then. i for get more options and could live in Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg and others.

Marseille is very nice, but some parts are a bit rough. Normal, considering the high level of immigrants. It was even founded by the Greeks over 2,600 years ago anyway. One of the largest Arab and Jewish populations anywhere in Europe. Also Frances' oldest city.
The Mediterranean sea is right at your backyard with lots of sunshine. It is not as boring as other cities in the South like Cannes, Nice or even nearby Aix. Fairly cheap too. TGV to Paris is an extra advantage.

Having either lived in or extensively visited all the major European alternatives people have suggested, UK has some unique advantages and disadvantages. It is easier to aspire to do a professional job in UK than most others, except Ireland. IT sector may be the only exception.

Although German and Dutch are not particularly too difficult to learn as an anglophone person, people find it daunting. Culturally, we have become closer to UK/English way of life than any other European people. For obvious reasons. French is more difficult to learn for anglophones. Forget all those school " Tiens, voila Monsieur Mayaki" French back then.
Correctly tackling liaison facultative and liaison obligatoire or masculine, feminine and neuter genders in oral French nor easy. The French are very fussy with their language and how you speak it.

The downside is that comparable European countries have a better healthcare system than UK. It is for a reason that UK keeps tapping healthcare workers from developing countries. It has never been this bad for at least a generation. This becomes important with age and illnesses of old age start surfacing.

Most other countries also have a better pre-tertiary education system. Tertiary education is superb though. Poverty rate is higher in UK population and inequality is worse in UK too.

Africans who moved to the UK and have never lived in any other developed country usually don't know first hand what I have written above. They can only compare UK with the African country they came from.

Having said that, the push factor in Nigeria must be very strong for people to want to relocate to virtually any country that cares to grant their visa.

Royalagro:
The black race freedom will come suddenly and unexpectedly..

With this mentality?

Moye715:
With this mentality?

Don't mind Elvictor and his classmates

They call people slaves only to remain nothing but people calling others slaves


Nothing to show for it

Spits

Emman08:
Biggest mistake I ever made was to return to Nigeria after finishing my studies in the UK. I for hang around by fire by force

same here bro, big mistake.

Moye715:
With this mentality?

There's nothing like blacks still being enslaved by whites.... actually.


Slavery has nothing to do with race

SeriouslySense:
That's accurate.

How do you know someone is a slave just by saying that the person doesn't know?


Speak up

Bo$$

GloriousGbola:
The right question is why are Nigerians fleeing Nigeria?

Finally found one of the most sensible comment. Only in Nigeria people focuses more on the shape & direction of the shadow, leaving the object.

pansophist:
I get it. But it's about picking one suffering. Places where you have to learn a language might offer more opportunities than others.

When people relocate abroad particularly through school, for most people the most important thing at first is to be able to financially sustain remaining in school. The chances of getting a job, enough to sustain you when u dont know the language yet is low. I studied in Germany and I have a fair idea of what it entails. If you combine so many things, u will not perform exceptionally in any one. it's enough that u cant speak official langugae of a place like native speakers, u dont want to add having just an average grade in academics to that. Not many people have home funds/support, enough to pull them through school.....if you are going to stay on the right side of the law(which is advisable), then its wise to go to a place where u can easily slot into the system and not be excluded from some jobs based on language while u are still studying. I agree with you on the bolded, but u know people's realities are different. For some people too having that large naija community around is good for their mental health. FOr younger people, you are very correct, they should look at other places as opportunities are there too and even more than UK, and try as much as people to learn the language before they leave Nigeria

pansophist:
At a professional level, I speak two languages. English and Dutch. At a conversational level, I speak Polish. Apart from English, I learned Polish and Dutch on my own. No language school is involved since I am an autodidact by nature and do better studying on my own than via traditional school.

Nice one.

It takes great determination and consistency to learn a new language, especially when doing so on your own.

Moye715:
I never knew speaking English is a luxury. someone like you will sheepishly nod to a Chinese or Arab man's english. You are irredeemable !

You are the irredeemable one. Schools that posses qualified teachers that speak British English aren't affordable by majority in Nigeria. That's what I mean. If you don't v deep sense, fall out!

Sometimes understanding are shaped by different experiences, sometimes some have the sensitivity to understand certain things better, does not make them overall better in understanding.

So, there is a place where everyone should be able to share their perspectives perhaps, it helps perhaps it doesn't.

although sometimes it could be biased, but everyone at some point realizes the common truth, maybe its close to the objective reality.

Perhaps, if one cannot grow or see closer to objective reality, they remain bounded in their usual reality and they keep asking questions but never answer them, since they keep repeating questions and maybe the same answers, then they sleep back and seek the best part of their boxes.

HellVictorinho6:
How do you know someone is a slave just by saying that the person doesn't know?


Speak up

Bo$$

SeriouslySense:
Sometimes understanding are shaped by different experiences, sometimes some have the sensitivity to understand certain things better, does not make them overall better in understanding.

So, there is a place where everyone should be able to share their perspectives perhaps, it helps perhaps it doesn't.

although sometimes it could be biased, but everyone at some point realizes the common truth, maybe its close to the objective reality.

Not an answer to the question

Some question are not to be answered, because the individual should answer better for themselves, perhaps their truth is closer to the objective reality. Some provided their answers, and now it could be your turn.

I wish for the objective reality, not for imposition of certain expectations.

Therefore, your perspective is required on the table.

HellVictorinho6:
Not an answer to the question

dplordx:
I’ve been to France, loved Marseille and most of the people speak English, although not fluently.
Cool people and great food but too many Arabs. I’d rather live in France than UK. I regret not focusing on my French classes back then. i for get more options and could live in Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg and others.

Lol! See pictures of people trying to flee France to get to the UK. France my yansh

Suffer no dey tire you?

Hmmm glad to see this topic. Who can tell me the real picture of life in the uk. My wife just got a job there an emergency technician. Annual salary is £27k. Am a website designer self employed. What are the chances we might make a better living over there in uk. and what are the chances we might not. We will be having a baby soon just to let you know.

I would appreciate an experienced mind to contribute. Thanks

SeriouslySense:
Some question are not to be answered, because the individual should answer better for themselves, perhaps their truth is closer to the objective reality. Some provided their answers, and now it could be your turn

What I think is you guys are wrong to call people slaves just because they come from this or that country


Travelling doesn't make anyone a slave.

IkpemhiTG:
Hmmm glad to see this topic. Who can tell me the real picture of life in the uk. My wife just got a job there an emergency technician. Annual salary is £27k. Am a website designer self employed. What are the chances we might make a better living over there in uk. and what are the chances we might not. We will be having a baby soon just to let you know.

I would appreciate an experienced mind to contribute. Thanks

Ask those that have been living there before you guys arrived

I Think you are missing the point, please look again at what was written by InvertedHammer.


Ego could be harmful, it makes us slip away from a line of thought and could direct us to Ego and perhaps conflicts

Yes i know my dear, its seems to diminish some esteem. But priority is objective reality, and precisely the theme.


InvertedHammer:

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Nigeria is the worst slave camp in the world.

Look around you. It is extremely difficult to free a slave who doesn't know that s/he is a slave.

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HellVictorinho6:
What I think is you guys are wrong to call people slaves just because they come from this or that country


Travelling doesn't make anyone a slave.

IkpemhiTG:
Hmmm glad to see this topic. Who can tell me the real picture of life in the uk. My wife just got a job there an emergency technician. Annual salary is £27k. Am a website designer self employed. What are the chances we might make a better living over there in uk. and what are the chances we might not. We will be having a baby soon just to let you know.

I would appreciate an experienced mind to contribute. Thanks

Also what do you think I can be doing now in Nigeria that can help me in terms of job opportunities in the uk.Thanks again. An experienced comment would be appreciated

7arrows:
As NIGERIA no offer anything aside from hardship and bad governance. U.K go help us take our best hands since our government no value us.

Yes, and I am fully in support. Teachers deserve better life.
As other countries like US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand copy that policy, you will see the value of teachers skyrocketing.

Teachers will no longer be looked down upon again. And Nigerian govt plots to keep them in poverty will fail.

pansophist:
If they could spend just one year in a language school, they'll learn German or Dutch.

Do you know how much you would make in UK within that one year of relocating?

I can personally attest to that.

The language barrier is a major challenge, but not in the UK.

SeriouslySense:
I Think you are missing the point, please look again at what was written by InvertedHammer.


Ego could be harmful, it makes us slip away from a line of thought and could direct us to Ego and perhaps conflicts

Yes i know my dear, its seems to diminish some esteem. But priority is objective reality, and precisely the theme.


InvertedHammer:

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Nigeria is the worst slave camp in the world.

Look around you. It is extremely difficult to free a slave who doesn't know that s/he is a slave.

/

Ego?

If you call it ego...., that's your cup of water or ogidiga

There's no point in what you're supporting.



You can repeat it till you die..... that won't bring you back to your former existence.

sukkot:
uk is actually the best place to be on the planet right now BUT you must migrate there with like 400 thousand pounds to enjoy it. anything less than that and uk becomes the worst place to be on planet earth. when you enter with the 400k pounds you look for house for areas like new cross ( try not to go to places where you are the only black person. go to where you are close to your culture and foods. new cross is beside peckham but far enough not to be in the madness ), buy a house in new cross for 300 thousand pounds cash down. then just relax and enjoy your life without worrying about slaving to find expensive rent that will eat all your salary. so now that you have house paid for just learn a digital skill and do it from home 24 7 electricity and you are not far from naija people and foods ( peckham ). this is how you enjoy london . if you go to london as a broke man you are OYO ooooo. me i done talk my own sha

My man! If i have 400k pounds, why the hell would i want to migrate to the UK.?.

Most are economic migrants in the UK.

Precisely, you have degenerated into insults, conflicts and from the original theme, its the typical characteristics of someone lying to themselves or perhaps tryin to satisfy their ego, but the realty is that there is no electricity, the roads are terrible, security is zero, people make statements with no empathy, it would be interesting to note how this is reflected in larger time period.

It can be used as a typical case study.

This is not a discussion, its your ego speaking.

You should do this often.

My dear, what is your perspective.

HellVictorinho6:
Ego?

If you call it ego...., that's your cup of water or ogidiga

There's no point in what you're supporting.



You can repeat it till you die..... that won't bring you back to your former existence.

IMASTEX:
Finally found one of the most sensible comment. Only in Nigeria people focuses more on the shape & direction of the shadow, leaving the object.

God bless you on the above.

None of these dunce will ever answer the question why people are fleeing the shithole in droves.

They will go to their churches to give bogus testimonies for ordinary UK visit visa, and the ones that are refused visa will come open threads like this one on Nairaland.

Why are people living Nigeria in droves?.

AreaFada2:
Africans who moved to the UK and have never lived in any other developed country usually don't know first hand what I have written above. They can only compare UK with the African country they came from.

Having said that, the push factor in Nigeria must be very strong for people to want to relocate to virtually any country that cares to grant their visa.

You have highlighted something very important.

Most immigrants to the UK are first-time travellers. They haven't been exposed to other countries and systems.

Its the Ego, , and so much lacking

Skyview01:
God bless you on the above.

None of these dunce will ever answer the question why people are fleeing the shithole in droves.

They will go to their churches to give bogus testimonies for ordinary UK visit visa, and the ones that are refused visa will come open threads like this one on Nairaland.

Why are people living Nigeria in droves?.

SeriouslySense:
Precisely, you have degenerated into insults, conflicts and from the original theme, its the the typical characteristics of someone lying to themselves or perhaps tryin to satisfy their ego, but the realty is that there is no electricity, the roads are terrible, security is zero, people make statements with no empathy, it would be interesting to note how this is reflected in larger time period.

Where is the insult?


You are just diverting with that line.


Lying to myself


You don't understand.... that's why.


Look....... not everyone in Nigeria lacks electricity,roads,food,water,shelter, security,etc


Statements without empathy can be found all over the world.... not just Nigeria.


Lastly, being a slave can be defined as a state in which a person doesn't have options as regards to what he or she can to do as a person because some other person prefers it so........ I at least never showed any sign of not having options as regards survival...... I have limits but my limits don't make me a slave....there are areas where I have no option.... such as choosing a username before I comment on Nairaland, fetching data or airtime before I download something,etc........ those things don't make me a slave... . you are not meant to define what I know or don't know to me just by saying I know or don't know.