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Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 7:14pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
TenQ:I would ask you again. Why would any sane person be sympathetic to a pedophile, who is sexually attracted to children and so directs sexual feelings towards children, and be comparing with a homosexual/lesbian, who is sexually attracted to adults of same sex or gender and so not only expresses sexual, love and/or affectionate feelings towards a consenting adult, but is faithful to the consenting adult for life, meaning until death do part them TenQ:I repeat. You are comparing apples with oranges A pedophile adult and a child(ren) is not the same as a consenting adult with another consenting adult, in a lifetime romantic relationship, until death part them TenQ:A thief is harming another person, by taking the person's property with expressed approval or authorisation Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 7:14pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:Female is defined, as the opposite of male. Now what point are you trying to make with asking me for a definition of female HellVictorinho6:Ordinarily I would have NOT dignified you a definition of female. I only did, so you wont say, your question was ducked. Now watch this, male and female has a shelf life, essentially mean they have an expiry date. You, as a terrestrial being, really and on the long run, is not going to be identified by your sexual organ. No, you're identified by your soul. You are soul, and vice versa. Soul is you. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 7:14pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
chieveboy:Matthew 7:6 '“Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you' Pleased you see the point and how well I have no choice other than do the bid of Matthew 7:6 chieveboy:You've easily lost yourself in your own illusions and delusions of self conceit. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
michaelwestern: Instead of arguing with them over tenets why not ask for the CORE BELIEFS that's FUNDAMENTAL as you called it? michaelwestern: Perhaps they agree that Jesus is also God, won't that be enough? |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 7:24pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
NNTR: You don't define by saying male is opposite of whatever. State the difference I have a soul .....who is the 'I' ? The soul is me .... meaning I have myself That's repetition......state what differentiates me as a male if not my reproductive organ(s) being a dick only. Those with both a dick and a pussy are neither male nor female. ... aren't they? |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 7:27pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
michaelwestern:I'll let slide that the word homosexuality is a modern day English word invention, but doest diminish the fact that, your post is laughable because when you, in a blanket manner, say that 'Homosexuality is a sin' it is just like, if someone too, will stand up to say, 'Heterosexulism is a sin' will be laughed at. Please, instead of referencing scripture in isolation and quoting it out of context, why not within the hour, take time to read and study the whole Romans Chapter 1. Go through Romans Chapter 1 contextually please, so to find out the twist included that's highlighted, in Romans 1:26-27 Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by michaelwestern(m): 7:31pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm afraid for you my brother you think you're on the right way but you're inside the bush. Without believing that Jesus Christ is son of God and also God, you can't be a Christian and you're going to live forever in hell fire. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John1:14 |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:35pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
michaelwestern: I have heard you! So now that most people have agreed with you on that do you still need arguing with such ones again? |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by michaelwestern(m): 7:45pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
NNTR: Haha the context is very clear. Please meditate on the whole chapter of Romans 1. And you won't have any question on homosexuality being a sin. 1 Like |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by michaelwestern(m): 7:47pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: This is an opportunity for you to enter into relationship with God. I'm not not talking about religion or doctrine. You can have a personal relationship with God and it's through Jesus Christ. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 7:51pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:Recall, I said, ordinarily I would have NOT dignified you a definition of female. I only did, so you wont say, your question was ducked. Of course 'soul is you, you is soul' is a repetition, and I constructed the comment that way, because I am reinforcing the fact that you don't have a soul, but you are a Soul, with a body, that has either a male sex organ, female sex organ or maybe, both male and female sex organs at once. Now refrain from being carnal minded, go beyond the flesh and carnal desires but look at the snapshot below, tell just by looking and without closely examining bone structure which is male or female. Hard and difficult right? Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
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Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:59pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
michaelwestern: OK your doctrine can make people have PERSONAL relationship with your god but then their religion doesn't matter. That means as long as anyone agree with your doctrine of Jesus is God their religion doesn't matter shey? |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 8:10pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
NNTR: Soul with a body? Can I exist without a body if I'm a soul? Let's agree that I'm a person. Can a person exist without a body? I really want to know how. Is the person/someone not something consisting of body parts connected in a way that involves someone's awareness by chance only? If the reproductive organ can be male or female,then it can also help to define the male or female. If the bone structure can also be male or female,why not go ahead and state it? |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 8:13pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
michaelwestern:Though you gat jokes, please dont pack in the day job yet The context obviously is not at all clear to you, if it is clear to you, you wouldnt have under pretext be quoting Romans 1:26-27 out of context michaelwestern:Smh, you're drowning person in the middle of a deep lake grasping at straw You arent even original, you have to resort to borrowing the advice I gave you, which is to, under the guidance of the HS, go read and study the whole of Romans Chapter 1, so to understand and grasp the crux of the matter of the chapter, that caused Apostle Paul, to pen the letter echoing and rehashing a warning, similar to that, God gave to the Israelites before their setting foot on Canaan Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 8:34pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:Of course, soul with a body, but were you able to tell if the body was for a male or female? HellVictorinho6:Absolutely you can and will. Simply because, after your spirit upon physical death leaves your body to return back to God, who happens to be a Spirit, then your body, sooner than later will disintegrate, decomposes and completely turn back into dust, so means, after your spirit man, has gone back to its Owner, after your body has turned into dust, then all that will be left is your soul, you. HellVictorinho6:Kk HellVictorinho6:Absolutely, a person can continue to exist without a body. Why? Well, it is because, every man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment. Who is facing the judgment? It is your soul. You HellVictorinho6:Yeah, let's give it a shot HellVictorinho6:The something, you are is your soul. The body part were temporary, they are required and needed in order for you to legally exist on earth and lawfully operate on earth as well You are here on earth, for the experience. You are here on earth to express yourself as best or as worst as you possibly can. Other aspects are beyond the scope of the thread's heading and subject title HellVictorinho6:You just there inadvertently stated, the reason, in the first place, why male and female. Human being procreation is the reason, but there'll come a time that all that we come to an end, an end where it doesnt matter anymore being male and/or female HellVictorinho6:It is because the skeletons have no flesh, is the reason why you cant tell apart if either is male or female. The point being made here is, what is more important, is the soul, the being, that is, the soul within, is the person. The person, is not a transient male or female. You are loving someone, who at the end of time, is not male nor female. HellVictorinho6 is not going to be picked out using identification by sex organ. Capisce? You get it now? Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 10:01pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
NNTR: What is a spirit made of? |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 10:11pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:The spirit man, essentially, the spirit is made of Ruach Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 10:12pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
NNTR: What is ruach? |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 10:18pm On Jan 07, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:Ruach is the life-force, aka the breath of God, that once present, makes every soul become a living soul, but the moment ruach leaves the body, the body physically dies, and no more is a living soul, subsequently causing the soul to cross over to a holding place, that in the far and beyond, to await when it is time to face judgment Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 3:44am On Jan 08, 2023 |
NNTR: Based on what the Bible says. ....... nothing new. How you rate what the Bible says is your business You can't really state how the ruach exists. Forces in Physics have definitions and properties. But all you can do is quote the Bible here Can you help me with any amount of money? 1 Like |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 5:42am On Jan 08, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:Absolutely, bang right on the money, you are. HellVictorinho6:Thank you HellVictorinho6:You did not ask how the ruach exists, but asked that 'What is ruach?' and you got a succinct answer HellVictorinho6:The reply 'Ruach is the life-force, aka the breath of God' in response to your 'What is ruach?' question, has both definition and property in the answer HellVictorinho6:Deuteronomy 8:18a But you shall remember [with profound respect] the LORD your God, for it is He who is giving you power to make wealth, To help with any amount of money is an easy matter and in any man's power, but to decide to help with any amount of money and how large and when, and for what purpose and how, is neither, in every man's power nor an easy matter, which is clearly the reason why God, Himself, does not give money, rather, He gives the power to create and get wealth You want to see how posters really are? Wait, until money is involved. Friendship and money? Oil and water I lost friends and money last year. I just want my money back. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 7:57am On Jan 08, 2023 |
NNTR: Nobody shows God exists. You can't get your money back by saying these things when I deserve just a yes or no or not really to my question. 1 Like |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 10:07am On Jan 08, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:The fact that you're still breathing, with ruach, inside you, keeping you alive on this side of eternity shows that God exists HellVictorinho6:Its a purely rhetorical statement made there HellVictorinho6:Deserve is a cheap. You don't get what you deserve. You get what you earn. 'I deserve' mentality, stunts personal growth. Undue entitlement mentality or victim mentality destroys. Now dont get pissed off with the result of the response given to your question, for a work you didnt do. Don’t feel entitled to anything you didn’t sweat and struggle for. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 10:44am On Jan 08, 2023 |
NNTR:The wheel of justice certainly isnt grinding slow in this matter Clearly, committed a crime of passion or crime of possession, the logic being that, Chiloba allegedly cheated on him Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
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Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:00am On Jan 08, 2023 |
NNTR: How did you know ruach exists? My existence doesn't prove ruach exists unless you say why without quoting the Bible. Your response to my question concerning financial assistance is meaningless. You are saying nonsense. But you see it as wisdom. Arrant rubbish I deserve remains the truth. Your inability to answer wisely doesn't make you progress. Nobody feels entitled to your meaningless money. I am only entitled to a reasonable answer which is I can or I can't or not really. I don't mind taking garri and peanuts instead of trying to make sense to you like this. Your definition of struggle is bullshit. Your benevolence is worthless. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 11:31am On Jan 08, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:Pull a nylon bag over your head, seal it up and have a go at asphyxiation, if you want know how ruach exists nah HellVictorinho6:Science let you know that the life of the soul is in the breadth HellVictorinho6:You see it as meaningless, nonsense and arrant rubbish simply and clearly because you have made a career out of regularly soliciting for money on this forum HellVictorinho6:What you deserve is a reality check to embrace. Of course, the truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. HellVictorinho6:You have a challenge understanding what wisely means. Without wisdom, money is quickly lost, by those who have it HellVictorinho6:Meaningless money is not what I possess HellVictorinho6:You're playing again the sense of entitlement card HellVictorinho6:Your reputation, preliminaries and antecedents that precedes you gives perfect sense HellVictorinho6:I fully give you the right to call that 'definition of struggle' bullshit HellVictorinho6:I expected you to exactly type this Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:39am On Jan 08, 2023 |
NNTR: Your response to me about ruach is nothing but useless repetition. Career from seeking assistance?? That's your meaningless assessment of Hell Victorinho. Your definition of wisdom is meaningless. I am entitled to what is useful since I exist.....if it's funny to you, then you deserve to die before tomorrow. You surely have to expect me to condemn anyone that is giving me meaningless replies on Nairaland. Nairaland is not an evidence for me to deserve meaningless replies. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 11:52am On Jan 08, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6:Oh OK. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by TenQ: 8:44pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
NNTR:A sin remain a sin even if you change your location to Jupiter. Homosexuality is a sickness of the soul. If you are afflicted, Jesus will set you free. Only come to Him in sincerity and faith! 1 Like |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 9:16pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
TenQ:If you don’t dont take to homosexuals, then blame the non homosexual people, because they are the ones, who keep having homosexual babies You currently are supporting sin, by encouraging hate of a consenting adult with another consenting adult, forming a lifetime love filled, romantic relationship, with other, until death part them Homosexuality ordinarily, just like heterosexualism ordinarily, is not a sin. Rightly so, lying is a sin, stealing is a sin, adultery is a sin, fornication is a sin, idolatry is a sin, ancestor worship is a sin, committing murder is a sin et cetera. OK. Place here the law that God made against homosexuality that made it a sin. Quote one verse where homosexuality is referenced as a sin TenQ:You're afflicted with the sickness of homophobia. There is a cure. Jesus will set you free. Only come to Him in unconditional love, sincerity and faith Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by TenQ: 9:26pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
NNTR:No amount of window dressing will turn a mentally sick man into a normal man. Homosexuality is a form of sexual preference. Except your argument is that all sexual preferences are normal and okay, you have no justification for singling out homosexuality as "normal". I actually suspect that you are gay trying to justify your sexual compulsion rather than coming to Christ for healing! 1 Like |
Re: One Reason Why People Are Born Gay by NNTR: 9:47pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
TenQ:No amount of your pooh pooh will curse, what God has not cursed. TenQ:Yes, homosexuality is a form of sexual preference, involving in this context, consenting adults, just as heterosexuliasm is a form of sexual preference, involving human beings TenQ:List what 'all sexual preferences' are TenQ:If I am gay, at least, I have the peace of mind that Christ loves me just the way I am You need Christ, heal you, of your bigotry. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
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