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I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Nobody: 7:30pm On Feb 28
I was born gay so I cannot change

To answer:

1. (Rom 1:26-28 kjv) Homosexual is a choice. You weren’t born that way.

2. Genetics will claim it’s the brain structure.
To refute this claim: Brain structure is affected by the choices you make. E.g. porn, drugs, homosexual, etc.. If you make the right choices, your brain structure will be rewired. The Lord has given you things to think on in (Phil 4:8 kjv). Your thought process affects your actions (2 Cor 10:3-6 kjv).

3. (Psa 51:5 kjv) We were all born wrong anyways; but this does not give you an excuse to do those sins because you’ll be held accountable for your actions.

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Jashub: 7:34pm On Feb 28
Lovely writeup.

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by beardlessdude(m): 7:35pm On Feb 28
There is nothing wrong in being gay!

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by ahnie(f): 7:38pm On Feb 28
Gayhub!
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Jashub: 7:41pm On Feb 28
beardlessdude:
There is nothing wrong in being gay!
That means paedophilia is morally okay right? Mtchww
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by doggedfighter(f): 8:35pm On Feb 28
People should be free to live their lives the way that suits them with whomsoever that consents with them.

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:17pm On Feb 28
iyambz:
I was born gay so I cannot change

To answer:

1. (Rom 1:26-28 kjv) Homosexual is a choice. You weren’t born that way.

2. Genetics will claim it’s the brain structure.
To refute this claim: Brain structure is affected by the choices you make. E.g. porn, drugs, homosexual, etc.. If you make the right choices, your brain structure will be rewired. The Lord has given you things to think on in (Phil 4:8 kjv). Your thought process affects your actions (2 Cor 10:3-6 kjv).

3. (Psa 51:5 kjv) We were all born wrong anyways; but this does not give you an excuse to do those sins because you’ll be held accountable for your actions.
1. What exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality?
2. What really is sinful in being a strictly monogamous homosexual?
3. How does being a homosexual personally affect anyone in a wicked, harmful or evil way?
4. What exactly is it, specifically in homosexuality, that pains or bothers you?
5. Do you know that you will be held accountable for demonising two people for life, loving each other?

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:17pm On Feb 28
Jashub:
That means paedophilia is morally okay right? Mtchww
Paedophilia, which is having an enduring sexual interest in prepubescent children, whether the urge is acted upon or not acted upon, is morally and totally not okay

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 9:25pm On Feb 28
Jashub:
That means paedophilia is morally okay right? Mtchww
The way xtians are quick to compare homosexuality with paedophilia, meanwhile their bible says absolutely nothing against paedophilia and even supports it,and their saviour is a product of paedophilia.
Their is seriously a lot wrong with your warped up morality if you don't know the difference between two.

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Jashub: 9:28pm On Feb 28
BeLookingIDIOT:

The way xtians are quick to compare homosexuality with paedophilia, meanwhile their bible says absolutely nothing against paedophilia and even supports it,and their saviour is a product of paedophilia.
Their is seriously a lot wrong with your warped up morality if you don't know the difference between two.
Our bible calls such acts immoral. But I bet you did not know that since reading and comprehension is your fundamental problem.
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 9:43pm On Feb 28
Jashub:
Our bible calls such acts immoral. But I bet you did not know that since reading and comprehension is your fundamental problem.
It also sees trimming your beards as immoral
Meanwhile,of all the innumerable silly laws in it,can you tell us where your bible even spoke against paedophilia? I'm waiting...

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Nobody: 9:45pm On Feb 28
BassReeves:
1. What exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality?
2. What really is sinful in being a strictly monogamous homosexual?
3. How does being a homosexual personally affect anyone in a wicked, harmful or evil way?
4. What exactly is it, specifically in homosexuality, that pains or bothers you?
5. Do you know that you will held accountable for demonising two people for life, loving each other?

It's obvious I just kicked another of your idol. Humans are busy looking for a type of god they can get along with; a god that should think the way they think. You only have a problem with the Bible, not me. You make God the guilty and bad guy here, not me.

Psa 2:1-4 kjv "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Jashub: 9:46pm On Feb 28
BeLookingIDIOT:

It also sees trimming your beards as immoral
Meanwhile,of all the innumerable silly laws in it,can you tell us where your bible even spoke against paedophilia? I'm waiting...


"Sexual immorality " is the word used in the Bible. Look that up and stop being stupid.

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 10:07pm On Feb 28
BassReeves:
1. What exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality

The highest and simplest answer here is that your Manufacturer/Creator has Expressly Prohibited you to Not Do So. Exactly as you would tell the driver of your car that he can not use your car to carry girls! Why?

Because as a creation, no one has bought you from His Hand therefore like your phone/laptop/car,He Owns You, therefore, you Must Do His Will, if you no want wahala.

So until you have bought yourself from His hand, you do not own yourself!

BassReeves:

2. What really is sinful in being a strictly monogamous homosexual?

It is exactly as seeing a Ferrari being used for smuggling running Seme-Mile 2 or girls in their "hoe phase" according to my people in Romance Section, It is offensive in Nature.

BassReeves:

3. How does being a homosexual personally affect anyone in a wicked, harmful or evil way?

Since an offence occurs because someone is naturally reasonably offended, therefore, anyone who commits an offence to his own self, does not commit an offence.

However, homosexuality is beyond oneself, (unlike masturbation/suicide) therefore, you are bound to offend another (like masturbation/suicide when another sees you).

BassReeves:

4. What exactly is it, specifically in homosexuality, that pains or bothers you.

Like a woman/man who has sex with multiple partners, it offends naturally.

BassReeves:

5. Do you know that you will held accountable for demonising two people for life, loving each other?

If you call a turned up nose, a look of disgust, shock and bewilderment "demonizing", then like onions to the eyes and like chilli to the tongue, like a tortoise to its shell, then they have the Defence of Nature.
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 10:18pm On Feb 28
doggedfighter:
People should be free to live their lives the way that suits them with whomsoever that consents with them.

True! once you deliver your car keys to your driver, he is free to do anything with the car. Carry Olosho and turn it to a Bro-Tell, use it for Kabu-kabu, use it for car wrestling etc ... Until you request for both him and the car you gave him.

Now let it be that your driver is like a mannequin or phone you created, let us see how free he shall be.
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 2:10am On Mar 01
Jashub:


"Sexual immorality " is the word used in the Bible. Look that up and stop being stupid.
Lol
After ransacking the internet and you couldn't find any against paedophilia so you came up with this lame response.
Your bible was very specific on what it considers sexual immoralities like homosexuality,incest, fornication,adultery etc why didn't it include paedophilia?

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:06am On Mar 01
iyambz:
It's obvious I just kicked another of your idol
It's obvious you have no idea of Exodus 20:4 and it saying, that one must not make for oneself, an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea.

iyambz:
Humans are busy looking for a type of god they can get along with; a god that should think the way they think. You only have a problem with the Bible, not me.
One of your ninety-nine problems with the bible, comes from you not, 2 Timothy 2:15 accurately and rightly handling the word of truth on the subject of homosexuality and you should be ashamed, for not rightly and properly dividing the word of truth on the subject of homosexuality.

iyambz:
You make God the guilty and bad guy here, not me.
You getting that you are the bad guy is validation that you really are the bad guy.

Look at you, wetting your pants and not able to give answers to simple easy to reply back to, questions.

iyambz:
Psa 2:1-4 kjv
"Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
If you are a true human being and son or daughter of the true God, you will gamble everything for love, but then you dont know what the meaning of love is, agape love that is.
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:08am On Mar 01
Dtruthspeaker:
The highest and simplest answer here is that your Manufacturer/Creator has Expressly Prohibited you to Not Do So. Exactly as you would tell the driver of your car that he can not use your car to carry girls! Why?

Because as a creation, no one has bought you from His Hand therefore like your phone/laptop/car,He Owns You, therefore, you Must Do His Will, if you no want wahala.

So until you have bought yourself from His hand, you do not own yourself!
Please simply just answer the 'What exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality' question and stop this insane detour away from saying what exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality

Dtruthspeaker:
It is exactly as seeing a Ferrari being used for smuggling running Seme-Mile 2 or girls in their "hoe phase" according to my people in Romance Section, It is offensive in Nature.
What is your problem? Are you a politician because I dont understand why you are trying the pivot with me and evading directly answering the 'what really is sinful in being a strictly monogamous homosexual?' question

Dtruthspeaker:
Since an offence occurs because someone is naturally reasonably offended, therefore, anyone who commits an offence to his own self, does not commit an offence.

However, homosexuality is beyond oneself, (unlike masturbation/suicide) therefore, you are bound to offend another (like masturbation/suicide when another sees you).
What manner of fuckery response to the 'How does being a homosexual personally affect anyone in a wicked, harmful or evil way?' question is this?

Are you normal? Can you please stay focused on homosexuality without needing to introduce masturbation or suicide. The question asked that how does being a homosexual personally affect anyone, with emphasis stressed on, the effect in a wicked, harmful or evil way on anyone. Please bear in mind, the situation of strictly monogamous same sex attraction couple being amorous in the comfort and privacy of their home with no one seeing them

Dtruthspeaker:
Like a woman/man who has sex with multiple partners, it offends naturally.
What has 'multiple partners' have anything to do, in strictly monogamous same sex attraction relationship?

What is the matter with you? You have this habit of dodging questions and people like you who do that are often just trying to hide from coming face to face with truth.

So, 'exactly what it is, specifically in homosexuality, that pains or bothers you' is 'multiple partners' right? But doing 'multiple partners' also happens in heterosexuality or bisexuality setting, so homosexuality does not have a monopoly on 'multiple partners' for you to single it out alone and pained and bothered by

Dtruthspeaker:
If you call a turned up nose, a look of disgust, shock and bewilderment "demonizing", then like onions to the eyes and like chilli to the tongue, like a tortoise to its shell, then they have the Defence of Nature.
You were asked a simple and direct question about 'Do you know that you will held accountable for demonising two people for life, loving each other' but as usual you parried it with some nonsensical waste of my precious time reply
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:08am On Mar 01
Jashub:
"Sexual immorality" is the word used in the Bible. Look that up and stop being stupid.

BeLookingIDIOT:
Lol
After ransacking the internet and you couldn't find any against paedophilia so you came up with this lame response.
Your bible was very specific on what it considers sexual immoralities like homosexuality, incest, fornication, adultery etc why didn't it include paedophilia?
Mark 9:42
'And whosoever shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me;
it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck, and he were cast into the sea'
.

Matthew 18:6
'It will be terrible for people who cause even one of my little followers to sin.
Those people would be better off thrown into the deepest part of the ocean with a heavy stone tied around their necks! '
.

To start with immorality has to do with wickedness, now sexual immorality, has to do with being sexually wicked. It is a wicked person who doesnt, and wouldnt find it sexually immoral to have in his/her thoughts sexual attraction to prepubescent young children.

I want to believe you understand the meaning of prepubescent and know the sick implication of having sexual fantasies for and even sexual attraction of boys and girls.

Now, the talk of sexual immorality, is about restricting sexual relations to the person you are committed to and not to be having multiple partners that Dtruthspeaker, rightly doesnt subscribe to.

Another important point, is consent. Prepubescent young children are well off chart the 'age of consent' radar and so no matter how you plan to argue it, are off limits, period.
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by shadeyinka(m): 9:09am On Mar 01
beardlessdude:
There is nothing wrong in being gay!
Me too, I was born Kleptomaniac!

There is nothing wrong in being Kleptomaniac!
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by shadeyinka(m): 9:12am On Mar 01
BassReeves:
1. What exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality?
2. What really is sinful in being a strictly monogamous homosexual?
3. How does being a homosexual personally affect anyone in a wicked, harmful or evil way?
4. What exactly is it, specifically in homosexuality, that pains or bothers you?
5. Do you know that you will be held accountable for demonising two people for life, loving each other?
Let me ask you a question!

1. What is wrong with adultry as long as the sex is by too consenting adults?

2. Is love the same thing as sex/sexuality?
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by shadeyinka(m): 9:13am On Mar 01
BeLookingIDIOT:

The way xtians are quick to compare homosexuality with paedophilia, meanwhile their bible says absolutely nothing against paedophilia and even supports it,and their saviour is a product of paedophilia.
Their is seriously a lot wrong with your warped up morality if you don't know the difference between two.
Just a single verse to show that the bible support paedophilia please!
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:16am On Mar 01
beardlessdude:
There is nothing wrong in being gay!
When you become unfaithful with it, when you mix it up with idolatry, when you prostitute with it etc then it becomes wrong

shadeyinka:
Me too, I was born Kleptomaniac!

There is nothing wrong in being Kleptomaniac!
You are a thief, taking without consent what belongs to another person. You are depriving that person of their property. It is not only just a wicked, evil without love thing to do, but you are also violating the 8th commandment that unequivocally states that thou should not be a kleptomaniac

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Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:29am On Mar 01
shadeyinka:
Let me ask you a question!

1. What is wrong with adultry as long as the sex is by too consenting adults?
So many things are wrong with adultery.

To kick off or start with, it doesn't display, Galatians 5:22-23, fruit of the Holy Spirit. What is wrong with adultery, is the treachery, unfaithfulness, the lie, the cheating, the double dealing, the wickedness etc

Someone that possesses love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control will not do adultery and hurt his/her partner.

shadeyinka:
2. Is love the same thing as sex/sexuality?
1 John 4:8
'Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.'

No, love, is not the same thing as sex/sexuality
- Love is God and vice versa. Love is a characteristic of God.
- Sex is a male or female sexual organ.
- Sexuality is about having sexual feeling or attraction to either the opposite sex, own sex or both the opposite sex and own sex
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 9:35am On Mar 01
BeLookingIDIOT:
...Your bible was very specific on what it considers sexual immoralities like homosexuality,incest, fornication,adultery etc why didn't it include paedophilia?

Cc: BassReeves

The Bible got it very well covered by using what is called the "Ejusdem Generis" style of drafting laws.

For it is not necessary that every form of offence Must Be stated in a particular Law. It is sufficient if the Laws a series of the offence to wit- "Immorality" not sexual immorality but All immoralities.

Also this clearly shows that you do not know the difference between "Adultery" and "Fornication" as generally almost always stated together in The Law contained in the Bible.

So paedophilia is covered by the Bible!
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 9:48am On Mar 01
BassReeves:

To start with immorality has to do with wickedness, now sexual immorality, has to do with being sexually wicked...

Wickedness is just a part of what immorality prohibits, there is more, which includes "Bads" and "Not-Goods".

For Wickedness is "wickeder" than bad, while "Evil" is "wickeder" than wickedness. And we do not yet have a word for things wickeder than evil, so we sigh or hiss or make some form of exclamation and expression eg "Ah!"

So Not-good is less wickeder than bad.

Therefore immortality refers to "All those things which are Not-Good, bad, wicked, evil, great evil, great great evil and so on.
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 9:50am On Mar 01
BassReeves:
Please simply just answer the 'What exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality' question and stop this insane detour away from saying what exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality

What is your problem? Are you a politician because I dont understand why you are trying the pivot with me and evading directly answering the 'what really is sinful in being a strictly monogamous homosexual?' question

What manner of fuckery response to the 'How does being a homosexual personally affect anyone in a wicked, harmful or evil way?' question is this?

Are you normal? Can you please stay focused on homosexuality without needing to introduce masturbation or suicide. The question asked that how does being a homosexual personally affect anyone, with emphasis stressed on, the effect in a wicked, harmful or evil way on anyone. Please bear in mind, the situation of strictly monogamous same sex attraction couple being amorous in the comfort and privacy of their home with no one seeing them

What has 'multiple partners' have anything to do, in strictly monogamous same sex attraction relationship?

What is the matter with you? You have this habit of dodging questions and people like you who do that are often just trying to hide from coming face to face with truth.

So, 'exactly what it is, specifically in homosexuality, that pains or bothers you' is 'multiple partners' right? But doing 'multiple partners' also happens in heterosexuality or bisexuality setting, so homosexuality does not have a monopoly on 'multiple partners' for you to single it out alone and pained and bothered by

You were asked a simple and direct question about 'Do you know that you will held accountable for demonising two people for life, loving each other' but as usual you parried it with some nonsensical waste of my precious time reply
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:55am On Mar 01
BeLookingIDIOT:
Lol
After ransacking the internet and you couldn't find any against paedophilia so you came up with this lame response.
Your bible was very specific on what it considers sexual immoralities like homosexuality, incest, fornication, adultery etc why didn't it include paedophilia?
Incest, fornication, adultery and even paedophilia has the same chance to just happen in heterosexuality, as much as in homosexuality, so why are you typing in homosexuality, as a specific of sexual immoralities and not equally type in heterosexuality too?

Dtruthspeaker:
Cc: BassReeves

The Bible got it very well covered by using what is called the "Ejusdem Generis" style of drafting laws.

For it is not necessary that every form of offence Must Be stated in a particular Law. It is sufficient if the Laws a series of the offence to wit- "Immorality" not sexual immorality but All immoralities.

Also this clearly shows that you do not know the difference between "Adultery" and "Fornication" as generally almost always stated together in The Law contained in the Bible.

So paedophilia is covered by the Bible!
Adultery, fornication and even paedophilia, are forms of wickedness, evilness, treachery, disloyalty, perverse judgment etc
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by BassReeves: 9:59am On Mar 01
Dtruthspeaker:
Wickedness is just a part of what immorality prohibits, there is more, which includes "Bads" and "Not-Goods".

For Wickedness is "wickeder" than bad, while "Evil" is "wickeder" than wickedness. And we do not yet have a word for things wickeder than evil, so we sigh or hiss or make some form of exclamation and expression eg "Ah!"

So Not-good is less wickeder than bad.

Therefore immortality refers to "All those things which are Not-Good, bad, wicked, evil, great evil, great great evil and so on.
1. Tell me what is good in adultery, fornication and even paedophilia, and I will replicate with what is good homosexuality
2. Tell me what fruit of the Holy Spirit is in displayed in adultery, fornication and even paedophilia, and I will replicate with what fruit of the Holy Spirit is in displayed in accepted and permissible homosexuality
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 10:01am On Mar 01
BassReeves:
Please simply just answer the 'What exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality' question and stop this insane detour away from saying what exactly is the evil in acceptable, harmless, innocent and permissible homosexuality

I have answered you to the effect that we say it is wrong because Nature, Immediately Points it out and Says this is Wrong, Just as it does to us when we see sex in public places or when we see a snake or sparking Transformer,

Our opposition is a result of Nature's Power over us.

Thus, it is Nature who opposes you using everything including us!
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 10:04am On Mar 01
BassReeves:
Incest, fornication, adultery and even paedophilia has the same chance to just happen in heterosexuality, as much as in homosexuality, so why are you typing in homosexuality, as a specific of sexual immoralities and not equally type in heterosexuality too?

Adultery, fornication and even paedophilia, are forms of wickedness, evilness, treachery, disloyalty, perverse judgment etc

All things which are not-good upto unending evil are prohibited by The Law of God as expressed in the Bible!
Re: I Was Born Gay So I Cannot Change by Dtruthspeaker: 10:10am On Mar 01
BassReeves:
1. Tell me what is good in adultery, fornication and even paedophilia, and I will replicate with what is good homosexuality
2. Tell me what fruit of the Holy Spirit is in displayed in adultery, fornication and even paedophilia, and I will replicate with what fruit of the Holy Spirit is in displayed in accepted and permissible homosexuality

I do not think this question is for me for I have very clearly already said above that adultery, fornication, homosexuality, paedophilia and every form of immoral conduct is in the Class of Things which are Not-good even up to unending evil and none of them those things should be done.

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