Danielnino00:


This is a case of passing over an easy opportunity because you feel there's a better one ahead.. His father saying we should wait until he turn 23 had nothing to do with maturity..The man was hoping his son would turn out to be a superstar and get called up by England...

Amedino99:
well reality is often disappointing. Person wey we for done use gwg help him career. If he was only eligible for Nigeria his father definitely won't put an age cap for him. He is even Lucky england is not his only international option. Hopefully his career takes an upward turn Sha cos I definitely can't see him in the gwg unless he moves to a first division league or the EPL.

charlesemeka85:
he plays for Ireland

Odunayaw:
He is a reason why even with the obvious issue of self reportage, the Ghanian research is very acceptable in my estimation.

We've had Nigerian heritage, US born boys fail this test even with verifiable documents

What do you say to that regard?

I think I have lost steam for this discussion because of the length of time it has taken

Marjoribanks:
Has Tosin agreed to switch to us?

Odunayaw:
By now you ought to have settled it in your mind that Komekn is a bag of sewage.

The reason I got into the discussion is because it started with a moniker that doesn't have a record of excreting everywhere

benji93:
Again, how many? That is the one-million-dollar question. It's not a common thing. Did I not admit that even actual 16-year-olds can have complete fusion? The article proper clearly mentions one case. I am not denying that you could have an actual 17-year-old failing the test. That would be quite ignorant.

I am talking about averages here. I can see you now know where my argument is going, the reason why you are now skirting around. You previously mentioned them and I asked you, how many cases in a given sample.? The question is what happens on average? I mean for instance in a sample of 100 16-year-olds, if 5 of them fail the test, it would be fruitless to argue the five. Oh yes I know the five, but you make decisions based on averages first, then you try to see if you can accommodate the others. Very simple. That's the direction statistics take. Otherwise, there would be no need to calculate the mean, standard deviation e.t.c.

I never said the Ghanaian article is not Ok. I actually hail them for highlighting the issues with respect to the data they collected, but yet you cannot ignore those issues, they significantly affect the accuracy of the Protocol.

And I agree it's taken an extended period of time so it's gone stale. I hail you for continuing this conversation, without evading clear arguments(even though you caused some problems ), unlike our mutual friend. . Hopefully, others get something from this. So I will make my final point and you can do with it what you want.

I previously argued from the article proper an average age of 18 for stage V, Which doesn't include Sub-Saharan Africans. If you include the fact that SA is lower than CA for a Sub-Saharan African country, which means the MRI age lags behind the chronological age, the 18 average goes up to about 20+ for Sub-Saharan African countries.

The reasons suggested by the Malawian study, i.e Malaria and Diarrhea are common in Sub-Saharan Africa, malaria especially, so that doesn't pose a serious problem for the argument.

Also, the Malawian study is more useful in this discussion because it didn't center its sampling on Players. They essentially almost eliminated the main problem that would pollute their data. I believe it's the reason they were able to discover the lag.

I support one of the conclusive remarks of the Ghanaian study. A comprehensive study on Black Africans without the incentive to lie needs to be conducted to be able to properly grade their fusions. As it stands the plus or minus of the use of the MRI on Sub-Saharan Africa is certainly uncertain. The study is needed to narrow down the range and properly quantify it, so you can say, for instance, it has an accuracy of 85% +-5%. As it stands all you can say is it screens out the Old papas. .

Anyways thank you. Maybe we can get back to discussing Tikitaka now. That's a more enjoyable conversation.

komekn:


You know a Gong farmer that's a sewage worker or as they are known in Edo " Agbekpo" are experts at identifying the most rancid ,mephetic, noxious, putrid and disgusting levels of raw sewage and excrement.

That's why are an expert because that's where you live in the foul smelling sewage. That's your comfort zone , where there is human excrement.

However,they are so use to being knee deep in sewage and waste, that anything that is sweet smelling and clean they are unable to identify and even find it repugnant.

Not everyone is LIKE YOU , Agbekpo

123jamessmith:
Another good defender, the NFF should try and get is felix uduaoki. That guy is good. I think if we talk to him now, he will play for us.

komekn:


Agreed without question your substantive contribution.

Please understand that intelligence rests with the minority not the majority and truth is not always popular to those who want to LIE.

benji93:
Again, how many? That is the one-million-dollar question. It's not a common thing. Did I not admit that even actual 16-year-olds can have complete fusion? The article proper clearly mentions one case. I am not denying that you could have an actual 17-year-old failing the test. That would be quite ignorant.

I am talking about averages here. I can see you now know where my argument is going, the reason why you are now skirting around. You previously mentioned them and I asked you, how many cases in a given sample.? The question is what happens on average? I mean for instance in a sample of 100 16-year-olds, if 5 of them fail the test, it would be fruitless to argue the five. Oh yes I know the five, but you make decisions based on averages first, then you try to see if you can accommodate the others. Very simple. That's the direction statistics take. Otherwise, there would be no need to calculate the mean, standard deviation e.t.c.

I never said the Ghanaian article is not Ok. I actually hail them for highlighting the issues with respect to the data they collected, but yet you cannot ignore those issues, they significantly affect the accuracy of the Protocol.

And I agree it's taken an extended period of time so it's gone stale. I hail you for continuing this conversation, without evading clear arguments(even though you caused some problems ), unlike our mutual friend. . Hopefully, others get something from this. So I will make my final point and you can do with it what you want.

I previously argued from the article proper an average age of 18 for stage V, Which doesn't include Sub-Saharan Africans. If you include the fact that SA is lower than CA for a Sub-Saharan African country, which means the MRI age lags behind the chronological age, the 18 average goes up to about 20+ for Sub-Saharan African countries.

The reasons suggested by the Malawian study, i.e Malaria and Diarrhea are common in Sub-Saharan Africa, malaria especially, so that doesn't pose a serious problem for the argument.

Also, the Malawian study is more useful in this discussion because it didn't center its sampling on Players. They essentially almost eliminated the main problem that would pollute their data. I believe it's the reason they were able to discover the lag.

I support one of the conclusive remarks of the Ghanaian study. A comprehensive study on Black Africans without the incentive to lie needs to be conducted to be able to properly grade their fusions. As it stands the plus or minus of the use of the MRI on Sub-Saharan Africa is certainly uncertain. The study is needed to narrow down the range and properly quantify it, so you can say, for instance, it has an accuracy of 85% +-5%. As it stands all you can say is it screens out the Old papas. .

Anyways thank you. Maybe we can get back to discussing Tikitaka now. That's a more enjoyable conversation.

Danielnino00:
Morocco have pulled out of the CHAN because of their diplomatic feud with Algeria..
Algeria said they won't open their airspace to them just for a CHAN tournament,that they should use another country to connect to Algeria,they refused...

I don't expect CAF to punish them... Too many nonsense are allowed within CAF.. if Morocco vex now,they fit leave CAF just like they left AU years ago (before coming back later)

MainJoe:




Same person with the most gaffes on this thread. Last last, no shred of evidence. Just tumbo tumbo.

The Nigerian Doctor has said it in black and white. Even those with low degree of fusion can get fused in some months time.

Blows holes into your theoretical lies of no fusion until 20/21 years. Choi. The like heavy.

Next.

komekn:


There are a number of people intelligent as they are, who wish to pursue a narrative that's fiction and not fact.

Using the established facts one can make informed assumptions that are credible and highly probable. Without the need for empirical research data to prove otherwise.

Boys in the USA with it's cocktail of GM foods, high protein diets , high quality healthcare , sports science, infrastructure development, etc

These boys will be taking a cocktail of vitamins, protein including creatine, to enhance muscle growth and recovery. This will accelerate bone fusion , this is why you will see boys at 15 with beards and almost full adult development. I've seen 14 year oldd who are 6"3'.

It's therefore probable to consider the impact of deprivation particularly when you leave north Africa and move towards the more impoverished sub Saharan Africa.

Deprivation ( poor health care, malnutrition, poot sanitation, mental and physical stresses) . If malnutrition results in stunted growth that includes delayed bone fusion.

Why then is it hard for some particular individuals to accept that if you have people in the West getting thorough the MRI scan at 18+. Is it not more probable, therefore, that a sub Saharan African can get through at 21 because his bones have not met bone fusion maturity.

It's very simple, don't know why some people want to round in circles and deny the blatantly obvious.

We act like our electorate pretending they two geriatric criminals are credible Presidential candidates. When there is clear and widely available evidence to the contrary.

komekn:


And all the peer reviewed published journals by emeritus academics is a load of rubbish.

You are prepared to take the non researched perfunctory view of one Nigerian medical doctor over multiple published academics.

You are clutching at straws and you are already sinking like lead in water.

Danielnino00:


This is a case of passing over an easy opportunity because you feel there's a better one ahead.. His father saying we should wait until he turn 23 had nothing to do with maturity..The man was hoping his son would turn out to be a superstar and get called up by England...

jihday:
when we pulled out of Afcon in 96 due to diplomatic reasons we were punished, I expect same for Morocco.

komekn:


Did you speak to his father or him or his agent ❓

And that is what they told you

charlesemeka85:
yes

Danielnino00:


Nothing will happen..I'm certain of it .
Morocco also pulled out of hosting the 2015 AFCON due to fears of Ebola...I don't remember any strict punishment given to them...

charlesemeka85:
awaziem is better than him

Amedino99:
they were banned for two afcon tournaments and $1m fine by caf but they overturned the judgement by appealing the decision at CAS.

komekn:


Did you speak to his father or him or his agent ❓

And that is what they told you