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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:28pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:Well if you agree that Jesus Christ established a group and presented them as his spiritual brothers and sisters i'm OK whether you believe it's JWs or not that's not the bone of contention but the fact remains that Jesus was able to point out a visible organization of people doing his father's will. I can boldly and confidently boast that the JW ORGANIZATION is that group today! ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 2:35pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:The goal is not to join any group and start boasting. The goal is to follow Jesus Christ. So if a group gives a false date about the coming of Christ, I stay away from such groups. If a group teaches stuff that is not based in the scriptures, I run from such groups. If a group claims that God practiced slavery with the children of Israel his very children, I can't be part of the group. If a group choose the number of people who can live with God in heaven, even when no such thing is in the bible, why should I be in such a congregation. To join a group is easy. There are thousands of groups out there but it's foolish to knowingly join a false group just to boast that I am part of an organization. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:52pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:There's no way you can justify your ignorance because God has never ever gathered a group of perfect worshipers on this planet. So pocket your excuses that God's people made mistakes. This is what our own God said about us: No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah! Isaiah 54:17 No weapon formed against His congregation by Satan to disorganize us shall have a success! We will always silence any group that try to stand beside us that's why you can't point to a better performing group! The heritage of God's people is an organized and orderly setting that will amaze all critics as each of us that form God's organization is also imperfect like everyone else! As for our righteousness don't bother yourself because you will never ever find a better replacement for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! ![]()
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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 2:59pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
I just MaxInDHouse:You keep making me laugh. I have discussed with you for over a year now. I know who is ignorant. The person who thinks God's children are his slaves is the ignorant one here .You talk of a better performing group. I can give you more than 10 better performing groups if you ask. I would give you groups that don't teach fairy tales but teach more from the scriptures. And mind you, I am neutral. I am not a member of any of these groups but I have tested their spirits just as I have tested yours. There are much more quality organizations with much more to offer and they actually try to follow the scriptures than yours. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:07pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:You know groups that are worshiping the true God, you also know that Jesus belongs to a group that worshiped the true God in his time and was so proud to present them as his spiritual family. But you are sitting on the fence you're no member of any even though you know they're worshiping God in the right sense but you just want to stay on your own! ![]() Ọmọ you can only run but you can't hide! Revelations 3:16 ![]()
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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 3:12pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:I am not sure I understand what you are saying here. And I never told you that I sit on a fence. What really is your point? Wait oh, is your point that everyone on Nairaland must mention a group to you before you are happy with them or what? |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:36pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:I'm happy with everyone! The only problem you have now is lying publicly instead of admitting that you're an atheist or better still agnostic. How can you say you belong to God through faith in the man called Jesus who presented a group of imperfect humans as fellow worshipers of his own God yet you can't point to just one due to shame that they can never ever meet up with the achievements of Jehovah's Witnesses since you don't want to acknowledge that that's the one and only true religion! ![]() Liars can only run but you can't hide. That's what Jesus said will happen to unrepentant evildoers who wants to hide under his name in the endtime. You're now saying there are many religions (anonymous) that are better of than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization (Jesus' group) yet you're not a member of any of them you're just trying to use them as COVER! Luke 23:30; Revelations 6:16 ![]()
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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 3:41pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Lol. You think it's hard to meet up with a religion that calls the children of Israel slaves and gives a number for heavenly candidates and preaches against blood donation. Ah ah, that's a very low bar. Trust me, I can do better than that. Do you know what would happen to does who teach false doctrines on the last day? ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
That's how the critics in the first century said Jesus and his disciples taught false doctrines but there was none that can stand out to perform better. Even today you can see many on this forum claiming they can do better than the God of the Bible, their problem is they can't form one group rather in their bid to debunk God's arrangement they're SCATTERED! Luke 11:23 Ọmọ i'm not arguing that you as in you knows better than the global organization of Jehovah's Witnesses but at least present a better performing group of people like you that knows than this group that's all! ![]() tctrills: |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 3:54pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Lool This is not at all the same. Jesus and his disciples teaching we're based in scripture. Christ told the Jews, search the scriptures for they testify of me. But a religion that it's teachings are against the words of God can't and should not put itself in the shoes of Christ and his disciples. Christ and his disciples taught that all the dead shall rise again but one US based organization that claims to know more that Christ is teaching otherwise. Oga don't even try to put yourself in Christ's shoes. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:57pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
So the Jews threw away their scriptures or they used what they found inside to condemn Jesus? ![]() Ọmọ no matter how the truth comes it will always sound bitter in the hearing of a person who doesn't want to acknowledge that there can never be more than one religion that's doing the will of One God! ![]() tctrills: |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 4:40pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:The Jews could not condemn Jesus Christ via the scriptures because he always showed them the errors in their ways. Just as I use the scriptures to show you your errors. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:59pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:YES, you used the scriptures to show me my errors but it's just that you can't present any group practicing what you know that is not error! ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 5:08pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:How does that have to do with anything. If you are false, I don't need to present anything group to you. I don't owe you that. Both of us don't have the same motive here. I understand your motive is to sell your organization while I am here to debate and have fun. I am not a marketer like you. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:14pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:But Jesus is a Marketer who keeps marketing his organization to the extent that even his mother and brothers weren't as important to him as the group he was marketing! Matthew 12:46-50 I'm one of his disciples whom he commanded to go fishing out disciples! Matthew 4:19 compare to 28:19-20 So i understand you! ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 5:31pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:The problem is that there are many fake marketers marketing fake products out there. The only way we test them is via the scriptures. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by civboy: 5:45pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
OP, you are confused. The friends of Jesus are indeed those who obey him. But it doesn't mean that Jesus only loves them, and no one else. Just like he taught, Jesus loves both the bad guys and the good guys, and he wishes good for both (he even asked forgiveness for those who were beating and killing him) but the bad guys reject his love and the good guys accept his love and become his friends. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:The highlighted is not correct! Jesus said it's by their FRUIT {Matthew 7:16-18} the false prophets will gather followers just as true prophets will also do so both of them will surely quote the scriptures since they know it's the only authority, no one can decipher who is quoting the scriptures wrongly, that's why Jesus emphasized on what their interpretation/teachings produces in their followers. True faith must have WORKS {James 2:18} similar to what the first century Christians were seen doing as their leader also does during his time {John 4:34} that's how they were recognized as CHRISTIANS! Act 11:26 That's the FRUIT interested people should look out for not how much arguments you can put up without presenting any works for the faith you're claiming! James 2:26 Once again i present the ORGANIZATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES imperfect but faithful members of a group doing the work Jesus commanded his disciples to continue doing until he return! Matthew 24:14 ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 9:57pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:That's the point I have been making all day by your fruits I can see you don't follow the scriptures. What other fruit � can you present when you don't believe the gospel of Christ. Not as if JW members cure cancer. You guys do not perform any special works that makes the world a better place. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:10pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:Jesus wasn't sent to perform miracles! Get that straight into your skull! He is going to be crowned as the king of God's Kingdom so to show that everything written in the scriptures about what the Christ will do in God's Kingdom is certain that's why he was doing all that. Psalms 67:6-7; Isaiah 25:8; 35:5-6; His one and only work was to preach and teach about those promises that's why he told everyone that his miracles are only for Israelites alone who had the prophetic words regarding what the Christ will do for the entire human race in God's Kingdom! Matthew 15:24 If you find out in the Bible where a single none Israelites perform a miracle i will quit being a JW today! God never had such prospect for any other race apart from Israelites that's why Zechariah foretold that people from all other nations will hold onto Jews and say "we have heard that God is with you" {Zechariah 8:23} if any other race will also perform miracles do you think they need Jews at all? So there's no excuse for you only JWs are doing the WORK of faith but if you're still in doubt we can all take any of your lying pastors to any hospital let him cure real sick people in the presence of everyone! ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 11:31pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Lol You are wrong again. Teaching erroneous doctrine does not count as doing the works of faith. Again the bible never taught that God never had a non Israel prophet. That is another of your personal opinions. Noah was clearly non Israelite neither was Abraham. The bible is basically the record of the house of Israel so you don't expect to find the mention of non Israel prophets. The bible did not tell if they were non Israel prophets or not but again, the JW must add their personal beliefs. Jesus performed at least 2 miracles for non Jews. And his disciples performed so many miracles for non Jews. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:40pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
tctrills:How can Noah or Abraham be Israelites? ![]() JACOB the man called "ISRAEL" was the grandson of Abraham who was the great grandson of Noah! Luke 3:34-36 So how can Noah or Abraham be Israelites? ![]() Well you've confirmed that God never used any none Israelites to perform miraculous works. Do you know WHY? ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 11:48pm On Jan 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Oga, I don't have the power to confirm what God has not revealed. Only God can confirm it via revelations do unlike you I don't pretend to be in God's head. Again you asked how can Noah or Abraham be Israelites? That alone teaches you that not all prophets were Israelites. Before Israel there were prophets |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:00am On Jan 14, 2023 |
tctrills:You don't have to call me "Oga" both of us are free to hold onto any religion as long as we have a reason for doing so. What i'm using this discussion to teach you is that you're an atheist in disguise. According to God's word a faithful person can know God's thought through: careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditation and fervent prayer for wisdom to have the knowledge of God! Proverbs 2:1-5 That's why i can boast that when talking about the God of the Bible i know what He can do and what He will never do {Jeremiah 9:23-24} that's the HERITAGE of those who are faithful like Abraham. If you're one of Abraham's descendants by faith you should be able to speak in behalf of the true God just as Abraham did when he confidently and boldly told God saying: "i know you too well Jehovah, you can't destroy the wicked along with the good" {Genesis 18:25} this is why Jehovah continue to declare Himself as the "God of Abraham" {Exodus 3:6} Abraham's unshakable faith was so strong that he was willing to sacrifice his only son for Jehovah WHY? Because he knows Jehovah too well so if Isaac should die Abraham knew that Jehovah can't do without fulfilling His promises {Isaiah 55:10-11} this is why Jehovah continue to call Abraham "His friend" James 2:23 That's the HERITAGE of God's people unlike the faithless generation of people like you who can't speak for your God and you're not ready to humble yourself and learn how to do so, that's why you have to always sit on the fence between atheism and faith! Revelations 3:16 tctrills:Ọmọ humble yourself and learn prophethood began from Moses, that's why Jehovah arranged that the writing of his words must start from a man born through the lineage of Jacob (Israel) Do you remember any law given to anyone before Moses? Do you know anyone who performed miracles before Moses? What you and i are dragging now is about MIRACULOUS WORKS so i'm proud to TEACH you today that it started in the midst of the descendants of Jacob (Israel) and ended among them. God never gave anyone from any other nations the ability to perform miracles! I'm not this harsh but when you're proving stubborn and trying to argue blindly on what i know too well i will boastfully tell you i know my God than all your lying pastors deceiving you that they're performing miracles! ![]()
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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 7:37am On Jan 14, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:You are still confusing issues. Yes the bible is a record of Israelite prophets. But bible never claimed that God only called Israelite prophets. The bible did not give record of prophets from other nations yes. But neither did the prophets in the bible say that God only works with the children of Israel as prophets. If you claim to be a teacher, don't teach your false opinions. Teach from the revelations of God. Guess work is not revelation. The bible does not even contain the records of all Israelite prophets. So how did you know that God did not have non Israelite prophets that are not mentioned in the bible. Again you guys seem to be a religion of guess work and zero revelations. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53am On Jan 14, 2023 |
tctrills:He is the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob: Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation. Exodus 3:15 I'm not arguing with you now i am teaching you! He has never and will never ever use anyone outside that lineage to perform miracles! ![]()
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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:59am On Jan 14, 2023 |
When you people want to shy away from the truth you will start arguing blindly saying you're using God's word to straighten matters: tctrills: tctrills:But now i'm showing you what is obtainable in the Bible yet you're looking for excuses to turn away from what is written in black and white. Do you BELIEVE (TRUST) the Bible as the one and only source of divine wisdom? I will leave you with that question. Farewell my friend, next time humble yourself and learn whenever you meet one of Jehovah's Witnesses! ![]()
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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 8:13am On Jan 14, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:You claim to be a teacher but then you are not teaching what I don't know. Yes God told the children of Israel that he was the God of their fathers. He did not tell them that he never chose a non Israel prophet. Wait oh, your argument is that Telling children of Israel that he is the God of their fathers somehow means he did not have a non Israel prophet. Religion of guess work. ![]() |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:18am On Jan 14, 2023 |
tctrills:Just name one prophet apart from those God chose among the descendants of Jacob (Israel) that's all! Proverbs 2:1-5 compare to 2Timothy 3:16-17 ![]()
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| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 8:20am On Jan 14, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:You are getting more dishonest. You have refused to show were God said he never called a non Israel prophet. Your defense is that God told the house of Israel that he is the God of their father. Even you in your heart knows that you are not making sense. But you must argue because that's how you guys are taught. Even if someone teaches you nonsense, you are not a kid and clearly, you are not dull. So no need to pretend to be dull just to keep spitting your false talking point. |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 8:28am On Jan 14, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Very foolish argument. Because the bible did not mention a non Israel prophet is not argument for a none Israel prophet. An honest person would say that the bible never told if there was a non Israel prophet in the bible. Simple. Again, that argument is useless because even from reading the bible, you are not given the names of all Israel prophets. So why should you expect a list of non Israel prophets in a record kept by the children of Israel. You know your argument is faulty so why waste our time with it? |
| Re: Jesus Christ Does Not Have The Ability To Love All Those His Father Love. by tctrills(op): 8:33am On Jan 14, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:You claim to be a teacher but except for your beautiful arts your teachings are inferior, dependent on guesswork and not backed by scripture. In the words of Fela, teacher don't teach me nonsense. |
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