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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by arantess: 5:23am On Jan 17, 2023
HedwigesMaduro:
Yiibos love fooling themselves, thinking they're smart. A coup that killed the most senior northern military officer and the most senior western military officer, but spared the most senior yiibo military officer (in fact, power was handed over to him) should be termed what? A couple that killed the regional heads of the north and west, while sparing the regional head of the yeast (who happened to be yiibo) should be called what?
Bayarabe
Stop distorting history

Go and read the Yoruba officer account " why we struck'

It's online, download it and have sense
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 5:49am On Jan 17, 2023
Penguin2:
Because of this year’s election, this year’s Armed Forces Remembrance Day has taken different dimensions with some elements trying to remind some Nigerians who killed their ancestors.

But what is most interesting is that all of these people are tagging the infamous 1966 coup as an Igbo coup as they have always done; erroneously so.

But it was this same people that would remind the Aniomas of Delta State that they are not Igbos.

So, I want to know what changed… Kaduna Nzeogwu is from Okpanam in Delta State.

Why is Kaduna Nzeogwu from Okpanam an Igbo man but Okpanam is not an Igboland, and everyone else in Okpanam are not Igbos?
Please what is the aim of this post really? Because there is no sense in this. First of all the Anioma are an Igbo subgroup which makes them bona-fide igbos. The issue here is that the lies that no Igbo senior officer was killed has always persisted but the forget that Ifeajuna shot and killed a senior military officer of Igbo origin in that coup by name Col Arthur Unegbe and he was the quartermaster General of the Nigerian army.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 5:56am On Jan 17, 2023
lhordspy:
According to the creator of this thread, he said:
"But what is most interesting is that all of these people are tagging the infamous 1966 coup as an Igbo coup as they have always done; erroneously so."

A Coup that was masterminded, orchestrated and executed by key heartless people like ; Chukuwama Nzeogwu, Anuforo,Onwuatuegwu, Emmanuel Efeajuna, Humphrey Chukwuma, Don Okafor from one tribe and One ethnic group only is what?


Is it a Fulani coup? Our problem in this country is when the truth is against our interest or affiliations, we always tend to see it as campaign of calumnies against us.

Truth should always be truth, irrespective of whether it favour us or not.
And the plain truth is that what happened that day jan. 15th 1966, was more of an organised Ethnic cleans!ng, a tr!bal war not just a coup.

Because after all this, Umunnakwe Aguyi-Irons! (the head of state then) from same tribe, did nothing in bringing this people to justice.
Do you know that recent documents released by Nigerian on the activities of the SMC showed that Ironsi actually set up a tribunal to begin trial of the coup plotters by August 23rd 1966 but we know that it never happened again the panel that was to do preliminary investigations and set the stage for the trials was headed by then Lt Col Yakubu Gowon. You see the problems with Nigerians is that they don't read and most of their postulations like the one you just made now is based on Anchored Bias(which is making conclusions based on the first bit of information you have without probing further) and also Unconscious Bias(making information based on predetermined notions of someone or something) . Gowon till today has failed to explain to Nigerians where that panel document is, so that we can understand if the coup was really motivated by ethnicity or not. Two people's reports have actually given an honest unbiased report on this coup. First it was Max Siolun in his book Oil, Politics and Violence, the next is MD Yusuf's police special branch report on that coup. Which actually absolved Ironsi of any involvement. The mistake Ironsi made was he was not swift at all in dealing with the coup plotters and he wanted to unite an already fragmented country by fiat which was his blunder.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 5:59am On Jan 17, 2023
benuejosh:
That’s why he used the word Mastermind. They were the lead head, the arrow head and organizers
Nzeogwu wasn't the mastermind it was Ifeajuna that was the mastermind. Nzeogwu achieved his objective 100% in Kaduna and neutralized all his assigned targets in was in Lagos that it was a disaster and in the east where Ejoor had all the planners arrested.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:02am On Jan 17, 2023
imam07:
U are an idiot. Only one yoruba man was involved
Actually 3 yorubas were involved. Capt Ganiyu Adeleke, Major Adewale Ademoyega and Lt Fola Oyewole.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:05am On Jan 17, 2023
BluntTheApostle:
How come there was not one single Igbo casualty?
There was an Igbo casualty it has always been avoided to mention. Ifeajuna shot and killed the Quartermaster of the Nigerian army Col Arthur Unegbe
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:08am On Jan 17, 2023
BluntTheApostle:
We are talking about prominent people, you are mentioning one colonel who was a mere collateral damage.
Oga after Ironsi. The next high rank was a brigadier then after that a Colonel. Arthur Unegbe was a high ranking army officer at that time. In the 60s Lt Cols were battalion commanders and 2ICs of divisions
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:09am On Jan 17, 2023
BluntTheApostle:
Who gave a fvck about a lt. colonel. No one even cared.


The Prime Minister (a Fulani man) was kidnapped and executed. The president was allowed to safely leave the country.

Premiers of Northern and Western regions were killed. What happened to the Eastern premier?
Dude you are shifting goal posts first you said no high ranking Igbo was killed now the facts was brought to you, and you are using semantics.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:10am On Jan 17, 2023
YeeboMuslim:
See this osu clown revising history .
Azikwe , Okpara , Osadebey and Ironsi ( yeebos ) were supposed to die in the coup but they miraculously escaped grin grin
The good news is that your cowardly ancestors more than paid for their stupidity
You are not smart at all.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by zabson(m): 6:12am On Jan 17, 2023
lhordspy:
According to the creator of this thread, he said:
"But what is most interesting is that all of these people are tagging the infamous 1966 coup as an Igbo coup as they have always done; erroneously so."

A Coup that was masterminded, orchestrated and executed by key heartless people like ; Chukuwama Nzeogwu, Anuforo,Onwuatuegwu, Emmanuel Efeajuna, Humphrey Chukwuma, Don Okafor from one tribe and One ethnic group only is what?


Is it a Fulani coup? Our problem in this country is when the truth is against our interest or affiliations, we always tend to see it as campaign of calumnies against us.

Truth should always be truth, irrespective of whether it favour us or not.
And the plain truth is that what happened that day jan. 15th 1966, was more of an organised Ethnic cleans!ng, a tr!bal war not just a coup.

Because after all this, Umunnakwe Aguyi-Irons! (the head of state then) from same tribe, did nothing in bringing this people to justice.
I swear to God we will never forget nor forgive the Igbo atrocities against our leaders. Time will tell.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:13am On Jan 17, 2023
YeeboMuslim:
The Premier of the mid West ( Osadebey , an IBO ) escpaed too.
The highest ranked Yoruba and Northern military officers were killed too ( Ademulegun and Maimalari )but the highest ranked Ibo officer escaped too.

Ibo sense grin
You see why I said you don't have sense. Ironsi after the party at Maimalari's house went to Apapa for another party that was why he was not in his residence when the coup plotters came visiting. At the time he got home, he got a call from Col Yakubu Pam who alerted him to troop movements round his house before the coup plotters got to him. That was how Ironsi was tipped off and he went to Ikeja cantonment and rallied troops to quash the coup.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:14am On Jan 17, 2023
YeeboMuslim:
Osu , Ademoyega wasnt killed in the coup.
It was Ademulegun and his pregnant wife that your cowardly ancestors murdered in the middle of the night .
It's funny a poorly lettered upper Iweka headbridge lout is telling someone to read grin grin

Awada kerikeri.
Try and read and have sense. The person said Col Arthur Unegbe was killed by Ifeajuna and Ademoyega and Co who were the actors in 1966.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Believeintruth: 6:16am On Jan 17, 2023
BluntTheApostle:
Don't mind them.

Azikwe (the president) escaped death too.


Not one prominent Igbo man was killed.
Oga stop shifting goal posts a senior Igbo officer was killed and that was a casualty whether you want to discount it or not doesn't change the fact that the coup was never an Igbo coup, because if you do it that way. Then Muritala's coup was a Fulani coup, Dimka's coup was a middle belt coup. Buhari and IBB subsequent coups were Fulani and Gideon Orkar's coup was Tiv coup.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 6:34am On Jan 17, 2023
Penguin2:
Oh, really?

Now why is Gideon Okar’s coup not Tiv coup?

Why is Buhari coup not Fulani coup?

Why is Babaginda coup not Hausa coup?

Why is Nzeogwu’s coup the only one with that ethnic tag?
babangida isn't hausa to start with self... You guys always think North is just Hausa fulani... Forgetting tribes in the North are more than tribes in the south... Go check orkar coup was it dominated by Igbo soldiers...? D issue with some of Igbos is victimhoodnes and always crying like babies...they want only history that favors their side...
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by BluntTheApostle(m):
Believeintruth:
Oga after Ironsi. The next high rank was a brigadier then after that a Colonel. Arthur Unegbe was a high ranking army officer at that time. In the 60s Lt Cols were battalion commanders and 2ICs of divisions
Unegbe was killed because the coup plotters needed the key to the armory, and the man was refusing to hand it over. They wouldn't have killed him if he had handed it over. Some account said Unegbe was killed because of his closeness to Brigadier Maimalari.


But ask yourself: why was Tafawa Balewa killed? Why was Ahmadu Bello killed? Why was Ademulegun killed? These men did not put up any resistance. They could have simply been arrested and tried.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 6:43am On Jan 17, 2023
gidgiddy:
They rule, they dont rule, everyone suffers equally
All these useless blackmail won't stop labour party coming fourth next year... Obi isn't a magician if he is let him go and turn anambra to eldorado...
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by tunjilana: 6:44am On Jan 17, 2023
Believeintruth:
There was an Igbo casualty it has always been avoided to mention. Ifeajuna shot and killed the Quartermaster of the Nigerian army Col Arthur Unegbe
Look through the casuality list below and u will see why the death of unegbe is insignificant to the fact that it was an igbo coup....even some accounts said unegbe was mistaken for Edo hence the killing...He was also reluctant to release the armoury keys in lagos so he had to be shot....in summary, killing him wasn't part if the plan, the way they actually planned the killing if others....



Civilians
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Prime Minister Abubakar Tafawa Balewa
Premier Ahmadu Bello
Premier Samuel Ladoke Akintola
Finance Minister Festus Okotie-Eboh
Ahmed Ben Musa (Bello's Senior Assistant Secretary for Security)[13]
Hafsatu Bello
Mrs Latifat Ademulegun
Zarumi Sardauna
Ahmed Pategi (Bello's driver)[13]
Military and police
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Brig. Samuel Ademulegun
Brig. Zakariya Maimalari
Col. Ralph Shodeinde[14]
Col. Kur Mohammed [15]
Lt. Col. Abogo Largema[15]
Lt. Col. James Pam[15]
Lt. Col. Arthur Unegbe
Sergeant Daramola Oyegoke (assisted Nzeogwu in the attack on the Sardauna's lodge and according to the police report was murdered by Nzeogwu)[5][6]
PC Yohana Garkawa
Lance Corporal Musa Nimzo
PC Akpan Anduka
PC Hagai Lai
Philip Lewande
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by BluntTheApostle(m): 6:53am On Jan 17, 2023
Believeintruth:
Oga stop shifting goal posts a senior Igbo officer was killed and that was a casualty whether you want to discount it or not doesn't change the fact that the coup was never an Igbo coup, because if you do it that way. Then Muritala's coup was a Fulani coup, Dimka's coup was a middle belt coup. Buhari and IBB subsequent coups were Fulani and Gideon Orkar's coup was Tiv coup.
In a coup spearheaded by an Igbo man, the Prime Minister (a Northerner) was killed, but the President (an Igbo man) escapes death.


The premiers of Northern and Western regions are murdered, but by some stroke of luck, the premier of Eastern Nigeria escapes.


Ademulegun (a Yoruba man) is killed, but JTU Aguiyi Ironsi (an Igbo man), the most senior officer of the NA is spared, and rewarded with Head of State.


Haba, even if the coup plotters had no tribal intentions, you can't blame people for thinking that they had.


The Muritala coup was a reprisal coup targeted at Igbos.


Dimka's coup did not have any close resemblance to Nzeogwu's coup because it didn't seem to target tribes.


Buhari's coup did not target any specific tribe. In fact, it toppled a fellow Fulani man.


IBB's coup too did not target any tribe or spared any tribe.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by BluntTheApostle(m): 6:54am On Jan 17, 2023
Believeintruth:
Dude you are shifting goal posts first you said no high ranking Igbo was killed now the facts was brought to you, and you are using semantics.
I said no Igbo casualty.


Please, go and read my original post.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by FireUpNow(m): 7:01am On Jan 17, 2023
What will you call Gideon Okar's Buhari's and Babagifa'copes? Hausa, Fulani or middle Belt? Stop all these tribalist bigotry please
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:07am On Jan 17, 2023
membranus:
But your kinsman, Aguiyi, the big lord of the land then, protected his 7 tribesmen, the coupists, from facing the wrath of the law in Igbo solidarity.

Therefore the rest of the Igbos are by tribal association culpable of the same crime, because they did not wholly condemn this murderous act of these tribal coupists. The same way the whole Germans are counted culpable for Hitler's heinous crime, even though he is an Austrian, and that not all Germans supported him.
Nothing concerns millions of innocent Igbo. Has the whole North condemned the appointment of a terror sympathizer as Minister? Did the North condemn Buhari for appointing Pantami as Minister? Does that mean all Northerners are terror sympathizers?

This talk does not make any sense. Leave innocent people out of the crimes of few. Let people answer for their crimes.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by ifeanyiclement: 7:07am On Jan 17, 2023
shortIGBOman:
Emeka, IGBO can never rule this our beautiful Country.

Quote me anywhere.
Igbos made Nigeria beautiful, we can always consider other options if Nigerians don't want Igbos
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Patriotsleague: 7:08am On Jan 17, 2023
His ancestry is Igbo, from the name, looks and accent you know. That man is an Igbo man, they are Igbo descendants who lived in that part of Delta.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:08am On Jan 17, 2023
rajiedreez:
Would you rather then call it Biafra coup.
It is a coup carried out by some soldiers. Leave innocent people out of it. The point is too simple.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:11am On Jan 17, 2023
BluntTheApostle:
In a coup spearheaded by an Igbo man, the Prime Minister (a Northerner) was killed, but the President (an Igbo man) escapes death.


The premiers of Northern and Western regions are murdered, but by some stroke of luck, the premier of Eastern Nigeria escapes.


Ademulegun (a Yoruba man) is killed, but JTU Aguiyi Ironsi (an Igbo man), the most senior officer of the NA is spared, and rewarded with Head of State.


Haba, even if the coup plotters had no tribal intentions, you can't blame people for thinking that they had.


The Muritala coup was a reprisal coup targeted at Igbos.


Dimka's coup did not have any close resemblance to Nzeogwu's coup because it didn't seem to target tribes.


Buhari's coup did not target any specific tribe. In fact, it toppled a fellow Fulani man.


IBB's coup too did not target any tribe or spared any tribe.
It is,

Nzeogwu's coup.

Dimka's coup.

Babangida's coup,

Buhari's coup.

Leave innocent people out of it.

Stop tribalism and hatred against innocent people. People have been killed enough.

Finito.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by BluntTheApostle(m): 7:14am On Jan 17, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
It is,

Nzeogwu's coup.

Dimka's coup.

Babangida's coup,

Buhari's coup.

Leave innocent people out of it.

Stop tribalism and hatred against innocent people. People have been killed enough.

Finito.
Nothing you say will make anyone believe that it was not an Igbo coup.


The signs are too overwhelming.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Goodlady(f): 7:15am On Jan 17, 2023
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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:16am On Jan 17, 2023
BluntTheApostle:
Nothing you say will make anyone believe that it was not an Igbo coup.


The signs are too overwhelming.
So those few officers represent millions of innocent people's decision?

It does not make any sense. Leave innocent people out of the crime of few. There are criminals in your village. That does not make you a criminal or make their actions yours.

Finito.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by BluntTheApostle(m): 7:20am On Jan 17, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
So those few officers represent millions of innocent people's decision?

It does not make any sense. Leave innocent people out of the crime of few. There are criminals in your village. That does not make you a criminal or make their actions yours.

Finito.
It does make sense, because it led to a reprisal attack, especially owing to how Ironsi handled the matter, and eventually a civil war which further divided us along ethnic lines.


I am sure if the January 1966 coup had seemed targeted at Igbos, you people will be crying louder than the Northerners, and busy shouting genocide or massacre.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:21am On Jan 17, 2023
BluntTheApostle:
It does make sense, because it led to a reprisal attack, especially owing to how Ironsi handled the matter, and eventually a civil war which further divided us along ethnic lines.


I am sure if the January 1966 coup had seemed targeted at Igbos, you people will be crying louder than the Northerners, and busy shouting genocide or massacre.
This does not make the actions of few to account for millions of people. Leave innocent people out of the actions of few.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by hartson: 7:22am On Jan 17, 2023
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