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States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Ovo200: 6:43pm On Jan 22, 2023
These are the states Jonathan didn't win but won the election

Now tell me what will make obi not win the election.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by HarunaWest(m): 6:53pm On Jan 22, 2023
Ovo200:
These are the states Jonathan didn't win but won the election

Now tell me what will make obi not win the election.
PDP had a structure. LP doesn't have that. Just face the reality on ground, when they say structure, it means party stalwarts at all levels of any state , local or ward. Imagine in Jigawa state for example,the whole exco and aspirants decamped to APC, in Ogun state, same thing. When rigging starts in these states, PO will have no one to fight for him. Even in the east, he will have a tough time because that is PDP stronghold. He will do well but the reality on ground is that he can't win this election. He can build on his profile, build a structure with the help of Nigerian youths and prepare in a merger sort of in 2027.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by 9jii(m): 7:01pm On Jan 22, 2023
Ovo200:
These are the states Jonathan didn't win but won the election

Now tell me what will make obi not win the election.
He ll lose these states plus all of the south west too.

If you are to go by the 2011 result the obvious winner will be Tinubu.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by oyin44: 7:09pm On Jan 22, 2023
Seeing this ..l believe obi cannot win..

Tinubu has every cause to be confident of winning this coming election

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Ovo200: 7:09pm On Jan 22, 2023
HarunaWest:
PDP had a structure. LP doesn't have that. Just face the reality on ground, when they say structure, it means party stalwarts at all levels of any state , local or ward. Imagine in Jigawa state for example,the whole exco and aspirants decamped to APC, in Ogun state, same thing. When rigging starts in these states, PO will have no one to fight for him. Even in the east, he will have a tough time because that is PDP stronghold. He will do well but the reality on ground is that he can't win this election. He can build on his profile, build a structure with the help of Nigerian youths and prepare in a merger sort of in 2027.



Urchin

You still haven't break free from the matrix

The people are the structure

Between structure and people being fed up by bad governance which is supreme?

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Ovo200: 7:13pm On Jan 22, 2023
9jii:

He ll lose these states plus all of the south west too.

If you are to go by the 2011 result the obvious winner will be Tinubu.

How will he win when he doesn't have enough vote from SS and SE, plateau, Benue, Nassarawa, Niger, Abuja are for obi.

I hope you know all SE and SS states are in the bag for obi

Lagos Obi is winning over 40%

He will get more than 25% from all SW state(You can try this survey in any SW state ask 4 Yoruba people two are for obi two are for Tinubu). The yorubas always argue with each other over Peter Obi.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Ovo200: 7:14pm On Jan 22, 2023
oyin44:
Seeing this ..l believe obi cannot win..

Tinubu has every cause to be confident of winning this coming election

Tinubu is coming distance third.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by kcnwaigbo: 7:16pm On Jan 22, 2023
HarunaWest:
PDP had a structure. LP doesn't have that. Just face the reality on ground, when they say structure, it means party stalwarts at all levels of any state , local or ward. Imagine in Jigawa state for example,the whole exco and aspirants decamped to APC, in Ogun state, same thing. When rigging starts in these states, PO will have no one to fight for him. Even in the east, he will have a tough time because that is PDP stronghold. He will do well but the reality on ground is that he can't win this election. He can build on his profile, build a structure with the help of Nigerian youths and prepare in a merger sort of in 2027.
Only the LP has the BVAS and Irev structures.Sorry bros you can't rig anymore

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by HarunaWest(m): 7:25pm On Jan 22, 2023
Polchiz:

Fool!
What is structure?
When people start voting for LP next month, you will understand the real meaning of structure.
Structure my foot!
just cos I differ from your own point of view. The best is to insult instead if countering my argument with facts. Well it's obvious that you know the reality that's why you are so pained buh I have got not much to say to you.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Polchiz(m): 7:28pm On Jan 22, 2023
HarunaWest:
just cos I differ from your own point of view. The best is to insult instead if countering my argument with facts. Well it's obvious that you know the reality that's why you are so pained buh I have got not much to say to you.
I am waiting for APC structure to win any state in SW and SE.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by HarunaWest(m): 7:33pm On Jan 22, 2023
Polchiz:

I am waiting for APC structure to win any state in SW and SE.
Yeah yeah I support PDP and we will surprise y'all don't worry.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by AntonVince: 8:31pm On Jan 22, 2023
HarunaWest:
PDP had a structure. LP doesn't have that. Just face the reality on ground, when they say structure, it means party stalwarts at all levels of any state , local or ward. Imagine in Jigawa state for example,the whole exco and aspirants decamped to APC, in Ogun state, same thing. When rigging starts in these states, PO will have no one to fight for him. Even in the east, he will have a tough time because that is PDP stronghold. He will do well but the reality on ground is that he can't win this election. He can build on his profile, build a structure with the help of Nigerian youths and prepare in a merger sort of in 2027.

PDP “had a structure” yet Buhari and his structure-less CPC swept every state (including those with sitting PDP governors) in the 12 core Muslim-dominant northern states?

Did the CPC even have a single councillor anywhere in Nigeria before ammasing over 12 million votes?

The only impediment to Obi’s victory next month is the SS/SE. He’ll be home and dry for Aso Rock before 2pm on election day if he wins those 2 regions en-bloc.
25% in at least 24 states is certain.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by HarunaWest(m): 8:48pm On Jan 22, 2023
AntonVince:


PDP “had a structure” yet Buhari and his structure-less CPC swept every state (including those with sitting PDP governors) in the 12 core Muslim-dominant northern states?

Did the CPC even have a single councillor anywhere in Nigeria before ammasing over 12 million votes?

The only impediment to Obi’s victory next month is the SS/SE. He’ll be home and dry for Aso Rock before 2pm on election day if he wins those 2 regions en-bloc.
25% in at least 24 states is certain.
Bihari had a structure with CPC. You forget that PMB was an ANPP member and he and his supporters decamped and formed the CPC. ANPP had structure already. You can't talk of block votes without the needed structure, this is a presidential election and not a loca government or assembly something. It's a whole different ball game.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Ovo200: 8:52pm On Jan 22, 2023
HarunaWest:
Bihari had a structure with CPC. You forget that PMB was an ANPP member and he and his supporters decamped and formed the CPC. ANPP had structure already. You can't talk of block votes without the needed structure, this is a presidential election and not a loca government or assembly something. It's a whole different ball game.


Answer this question

Between structure and people being tired of bad governance which is superior?

Did you expect the turn out for obi in any of his rallies since it began?
So shall his vote be bro
Nobody expected what happened in Kano today if you don't have a retentive memory to recall other

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Zandena(f): 9:00pm On Jan 22, 2023
See how you murdered English with your daydreaming analysis "states Jonathan didn't not win "
Obi is nowhere near Jonathan politically even with his naivety. The two are not comparable at all as Jonathan benefited from incumbency factor and massive rigging that took place in the south.
Obi is only riding and banking on religious sentiment and nothing else!

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by HarunaWest(m): 9:11pm On Jan 22, 2023
Ovo200:



Answer this question

Between structure and people being tired of bad governance which is superior?

Did you expect the turn out for obi in any of his rallies since it began?
So shall his vote be bro
Nobody expected what happened in Kano today if you don't have a retentive memory to recall other
Forget what happened in Kano today. Let's stake here that he will not score up to 100,000 votes there. Remember this day and let's chat again on 27th February Insha Allah. Na Kanawa go vote Obi?
Forget the rallies or the crowd. When we get to election proper, you will see the need for structure. He will wail of rigging, voter manipulation et al. buh that wouldn't change the outcome.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by 9jii(m): 9:18pm On Jan 22, 2023
Ovo200:


How will he win when he doesn't have enough vote from SS and SE, plateau, Benue, Nassarawa, Niger, Abuja are for obi.

I hope you know all SE and SS states are in the bag for obi

Lagos Obi is winning over 40%

He will get more than 25% from all SW state(You can try this survey in any SW state ask 4 Yoruba people two are for obi two are for Tinubu). The yorubas always argue with each other over Peter Obi.
Niger?Nasarawa ? I thought we are being realistic.

Winning SE n SS and getting 25% in the SW didn't stop GEJ from losing in 2015 and Atiku in 2019.

Obi can't get 25% from 15 states so also Atiku in almost all the states in South.
Only Tinubu can win or get 25% from more than 26 states across the country.

Obi can only become in third place in 2023.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by SmartPolician: 4:35am On Jan 23, 2023
kcnwaigbo:

Only the LP has the BVAS and Irev structures.Sorry bros you can't rig anymore

You can rig if one party has no party agent in the polling unit. Labour Party needs to have party agents in all the PUs. Without it, APC and PDP may share their votes during vote counts grin
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by TheNiceGuy(m): 4:38am On Jan 23, 2023
Nonsense.
2011 Election downward is nothing but pure fraud. those are the days when results are being written with hand.

You can't use that to judge this present electioneering processes
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by seeyounow: 4:39am On Jan 23, 2023
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by seeyounow: 4:39am On Jan 23, 2023
embarassed embarassed
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by SmartPolician: 4:40am On Jan 23, 2023
HarunaWest:
Forget what happened in Kano today. Let's stake here that he will not score up to 100,000 votes there. Remember this day and let's chat again on 27th February Insha Allah. Na Kanawa go vote Obi?
Forget the rallies or the crowd. When we get to election proper, you will see the need for structure. He will wail of rigging, voter manipulation et al. buh that wouldn't change the outcome.


This election can only be rigged if Labour Party has no reliable agents at the polling units. If they do, forget it. Rigging has no place in Nigerian election anymore.

It's even interesting that the new electoral law says that the election must not take place in PUs where the BVAS failed to work. Everything has been automated, bros.

The major deciders of this election are the states in the North Central because it's easy to predict who the rest of the regions are most likely to vote for.

Plus, being the major Christian in this race, Obi clearly has an edge over the rest of the three Muslims in Northern states with a reasonable Christian population who have been totally destroyed, raped and maimed by Fulani marauders and abandoned by the Nigerian state.

This was why Obi took his campaigns to Southern Kaduna, a region the Fulani militia, sponsored by the Nigerian state, have totally annihilated over the years. We saw the outpouring of emotions during the campaign.

But then, I see this election going into a runoff.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Patriot9: 5:58am On Jan 23, 2023
Ovo200:


How will he win when he doesn't have enough vote from SS and SE, plateau, Benue, Nassarawa, Niger, Abuja are for obi.

I hope you know all SE and SS states are in the bag for obi

Lagos Obi is winning over 40%

He will get more than 25% from all SW state(You can try this survey in any SW state ask 4 Yoruba people two are for obi two are for Tinubu). The yorubas always argue with each other over Peter Obi.
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Patriot9: 6:03am On Jan 23, 2023
Zandena:
See how you murdered English with your daydreaming analysis "states Jonathan didn't not win "
Obi is nowhere near Jonathan politically even with his naivety. The two are not comparable at all as Jonathan benefited from incumbency factor and massive rigging that took place in the south.
Obi is only riding and banking on religious sentiment and nothing else!
Exactly!!!
Religion will play a big role in this coming election.
Not that Obi is competent, many people (christians) just see it as a "Religion trophy" because they cannot allow another Muslim on the seat of power again.
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Ovo200: 6:44am On Jan 23, 2023
HarunaWest:
Forget what happened in Kano today. Let's stake here that he will not score up to 100,000 votes there. Remember this day and let's chat again on 27th February Insha Allah. Na Kanawa go vote Obi?
Forget the rallies or the crowd. When we get to election proper, you will see the need for structure. He will wail of rigging, voter manipulation et al. buh that wouldn't change the outcome.


Wow
What an improvement
El rufai said he won't see 200 people in Kaduna but we saw what happened

Before it's nobody knows obi in the north to obi won't get 5,000 vote in the north now it's 100,000.

Let wait and see what you will say Feb 27

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Ovo200: 6:48am On Jan 23, 2023
9jii:

Niger?Nasarawa ? I thought we are being realistic.

Winning SE n SS and getting 25% in the SW didn't stop GEJ from losing in 2015 and Atiku in 2019.

Obi can't get 25% from 15 states so also Atiku in almost all the states in South.
Only Tinubu can win or get 25% from more than 26 states across the country.

Obi can only become in third place in 2023.


Wow
Keep living in Disney island

Just wait for the north vote
The north (NE,NW) is voting obi, tinubu, Atiku, and kwankwaso.
The SS is voting obi
The SE is voting obi
The SW is voting obi, Atiku and tinubu
The NC is voting obi, Atiku and tinubu
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by Bigfish121(m): 7:14am On Jan 23, 2023
Voters in the polling unit will act as the party agent.


SmartPolician:


You can rig if one party has no party agent in the polling unit. Labour Party needs to have party agents in all the PUs. Without it, APC and PDP may share their votes during vote counts grin
Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by garfield1: 8:02am On Jan 23, 2023
Bigfish121:
Voters in the polling unit will act as the party agent.



What if its not an lp stronghold

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by BentizilL: 9:16am On Jan 23, 2023
Ovo200:


How will he win when he doesn't have enough vote from SS and SE, plateau, Benue, Nassarawa, Niger, Abuja are for obi.

I hope you know all SE and SS states are in the bag for obi

Lagos Obi is winning over 40%

He will get more than 25% from all SW state(You can try this survey in any SW state ask 4 Yoruba people two are for obi two are for Tinubu). The yorubas always argue with each other over Peter Obi.
Stop lying, Yoruba is not for Obi...
Maybe there are few, just like you'll see people supporting Tinubu in southeast..

Assemble 100 southwesterner and you'll see 80 supporting Tinubu.. 😛
You guys should stop lying to score a point...

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by traihit: 10:07am On Jan 23, 2023
Zandena:
See how you murdered English with your daydreaming analysis "states Jonathan didn't not win "
Obi is nowhere near Jonathan politically even with his naivety. The two are not comparable at all as Jonathan benefited from incumbency factor and massive rigging that took place in the south.
Obi is only riding and banking on religious sentiment and nothing else!

Madam, incumbency or not, Jonathan was massively supported in the South in 2011. That's a major factor that helped in his winning. The only disgruntled group are Buhari's supporters in the North.

Buhari was supported in the same manner especially by Southwesterners in 2015 and Obi is having a similar support down south presently.

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Re: States Jonathan Didn't Win Yet Won 2011 Election by dochenaj: 11:35am On Jan 23, 2023
The one thing that favours Obi in this election is that he is the only one with assured bloc votes. The SE and to a large extent the SS will vote en-masse for him.

None of his opponents can boast of same, Atiku can make such claims for the NW and NE but Kwankwaso and Tinubu seem to be making inroads against him in these zones.

The NC will always be swing zones and sadly for Tinubu the SW too.

Atiku is still favorite to win in my opinion and more so if the election ends in a runoff.

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