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BATified2023:
but virtually everyone urchin agreed tinubu did better than obi as governor

Any objections from u?

Mention three bridges constructed and commissioned by Mr Tinubu during his eight years in office. Just mention, don't bother about the link, videos or pictures. I will do that for you.

BATified2023:
but virtually everyone agreed tinubu did better than obi as governor
Any objections from u?

You are not the kind of person I want to have this discuss with here, you're too narrow minded, insultive, emotional, and tribalistic. You have refused or can't debunk any of my submissions just beer parlor talks

Pls don't derail this thread, I can't answer you cos you will lead me to turn insultive and tribal like you have.

gashiwalesman:

I'm not a supporter of Tinubu, but as regards the frontrunners in this election, I'd settle for a tinubu candidacy...

If you wanna debate me on why I prefer him over other contestants, I'd be more than glad to school you for free

The bolded is how to know Tinubu's surpporters on social media.

You are not not a supporter of Tinubu, but your past comments on Nairaland has given you out. Why are you not proud of your presidential candidate? Why??

LocalStandard1:
If you look at the topic again very well I said the most intelligent, not the most tribalistic. You stepped forward only to turn tribal, accusing everyone even your kinsmen of being a tribe you love to hate. Not a great plan! Not a legit way of intellectual debate!!

But what if you're talking to an Igbo, aren't they also Nigerians and humans too?

Or are they beyond your mental capacity?

arent u Igbo

Y are u denying your tribe

It’s useless arguing with an Igbo man cos he’s programmed to hate, he only believes his own lies n he doesn’t care about the truth

So u want me to argue with people who believe buhari was cloned?

So u want me to start arguing with people who believe trump will come n conduct referendum in Nigeria?
So u want me to argue with people who believe killing security operatives will give them their country

Guy I don’t argue with hate filled souls who have worse leaders but care about leaders of others


Woe unto u if u are Igbo n tinubu is your problem

gashiwalesman:
I'm not a supporter of Tinubu, but as regards the frontrunners in this election, I'd settle for a tinubu candidacy...
If you wanna debate me on why I prefer him over other contestants, I'd be more than glad to school you for free

"I am not a supporter of Tinubu but". You have ended the conversation before you started, this is a post for the supporters of both Tinubu and Peter Obi. Not of people who just want to pass time talking and people who don't even believe in the person they're talking about, or even believe in him.

BATified2023:
I don’t want cheap talks

Give me proofs like newspaper publications

I can also claim anything, give me any newspaper publications to back it up

At least I backed it up the obi failed on security n co

In terms of security, Obi was the first governor that started demolishing Kidnappers' dens. Throughout his tenure, there was no bank robbery. Even Evans the billionaire kidnapper had to japa to Lagos from Anambra because Lagos has a conducive atmosphere for criminality. Go and verify from the Police IG of that time.

BATified2023:
arent u Igbo
Y are u denying your tribe
It’s useless arguing with an Igbo man cos he’s programmed to hate, he only believes his own lies n he doesn’t care about the truth
So u want me to argue with people who believe buhari was cloned?
So u want me to start arguing with people who believe trump will come n conduct referendum in Nigeria?
So u want me to argue with people who believe killing security operatives will give them their country
Guy I don’t argue with hate filled souls who have worse leaders but care about leaders of others
Woe unto u if u are Igbo n tinubu is your problem

No I am not Igbo, I am from Southern Kaduna. Gwong is my tribe, from Jema'a LGA.

You are finding it hard to believe Peter Obi has supporters all around Nigeria cos you are a tribalist and your candidate can't boast of same.

I love both the Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba. I am not a tribalist, this is me supporting Prof. Yemi Osibanjo, an intelligent Omoluabi, before incompetent Tinubu bought the Presidential ticket with money....

https://www.nairaland.com/7155254/pictures-why-prof-yemi-osibanjo

https://www.nairaland.com/7546597/when-almost-became-apc-member

As you can see, I have no grudge against the Yoruba, I want the best for Nigeria and Obi happens to be it.

LocalStandard1:
You are not the kind of person I want to have this discuss with here, you're too narrow minded, insultive, emotional, and tribalistic. You have refused or can't debunk any of my submissions just beer parlor talks

Pls don't derail this thread, I can't answer you cos you will lead me to turn insultive and tribal like you have.

u are running away cos u don’t have answers to d questions

LocalStandard1:
No I am not Igbo, I am from Southern Kaduna. Gwong is my tribe, from Jema'a LGA.

You are finding it hard to believe Peter Obi has supporters all around Nigeria cos you are a tribalist and your candidate can't boast of same.

I love both the Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba. I am not a tribalist, this me supporting Prof. Yemi Osibanjo before incompetent Tinubu bought the Presidential ticket with money....

https://www.nairaland.com/7155254/pictures-why-prof-yemi-osibanjo

https://www.nairaland.com/7546597/when-almost-became-apc-member

As you can see, I have no grudge against the Yoruba.

I can bet my life u are Igbo

No Hausa person is this obsessed with Yoruba n tinubu

BATified2023:
u mischievous Igbo

I will not reply u again

This is the reason many don’t want to engage igbos n their candidate, they are bunch of mischievous people

I am Yoruba n I admit it with my full body n chest

I don’t have to claim another tribe

Tribalist. Wait, were Tinubu's surpporters instructed not to respond to Northerners' insults most especially from Hausa/Fulani muslims? I noticed that on any social media post where Northerners are working against, mocking or abusing Tinubu, his surpporters usually respond by attacking Igbos Instead of facing reality. What's the correlation? The subservience and respect is too much and it's as if they consider Hausa/Fulani muslims as more superior humans than themselves.

floret23:
Tribalist. Wait, were Tinubu's surpporters instructed not to respond to Northerners' insults most especially from Hausa/Fulani muslims? I noticed that on any social media post where Northerners are working against, mocking or abusing Tinubu, his surpporters usually respond by attacking Igbos Instead of facing reality. What's the correlation? The subservience and respect is too much and it's as if they consider Hausa/Fulani muslims as more superior humans than themselves.

no b today wey we burst u so lock up

BATified2023:
I can bet my life u are Igbo

No Hausa person is this obsessed with Yoruba n tinubu

What of me? Am I also Igbo? I have this questions for Tinubu's surpporters:
Why do you yoruba muslims worship Northerners with so much fear and trembling but hate peace loving Igbos? Why are they always afraid of replying Northerners? Anyway with Peter Obi, a new Nigeria is PO-ssible. Peter is Better!

floret23:
Tribalist. Wait, were Tinubu's surpporters instructed not to respond to Northerners' insults most especially from Hausa/Fulani muslims? I noticed that on any social media post where Northerners are working against, mocking or abusing Tinubu, his surpporters usually respond by attacking Igbos Instead of facing reality. What's the correlation? The subservience and respect is too much and it's as if they consider Hausa/Fulani muslims as more superior humans than themselves.

My sis thank you for being with me here. Let's not allow this guy derail the thread, that's what he's pushing for now. I know you're Yoruba as you said, must importantly you are Nigeria n and that all there is to know.

BATified2023:
no b today wey we burst u so lock up

Yoruba ni mi tokantokan sugbon Peter Obi ni choice mi ni February 25 nitoripe Thiefnubuu ti lu'le patapata too mo

You are free to call Pa Adebanjo, Chief Obasanjo, and all yorubas Igbos if it makes you happy. Every sane and sensible Nigerian is igbo to you. Only idiots believe their own lies.

LocalStandard1:
I mean, let's settle this right here and now, without insults or name calling!

Get me the most intelligent, biggest Tinubu brainiac here on Nairaland let's have some intense intellectual, mind cracking debate. Let's give reasons why we support our different candidates and let's dispute each other's reasons given. Let's talk about the various controversies about each and their capabilities and capacities, their abilities and characters.

I don't mind even if it's a mod or Reno Omokri, even a Professor will do just fine. Come on let's have some low level, old style debate since your candidate has refused a debate or even a 30mins long interview by a TV station of his choice.

Mods pls push this to front view!

If you are ready with facts and figures.

Not Obi safe $33999TRILLION

Afamed:
If you are ready with facts and figures.
Not Obi safe $33999TRILLION

Disprove he didn't just like I proved he did.

floret23:
In terms of security, Obi was the first governor that started demolishing Kidnappers' dens. Throughout his tenure, there was no bank robbery. Even Evans the billionaire kidnapper had to japa to Lagos from Anambra because Lagos has a conducive atmosphere for criminality. Go and verify from the Police IG of that time.

Who is feeding you with all these lies?

BATified2023:
u mischievous Igbo

I will not reply u again

This is the reason many don’t want to engage igbos n their candidate, they are bunch of mischievous people

I am Yoruba n I admit it with my full body n chest

I don’t have to claim another tribe

No matter how you tribalise this election, Yoruba Christians will never vote Tinubu on Muslim-Muslim ticket because we are not fools. When MURIC terrorists told Yoruba Muslims not to vote Yoruba Christians, they all agree.

Afamed:
Who is feeding you with all these lies?

Christians are not minorities, slaves, or second class citizens in Nigeria. Muslim-Muslim ticket is a big insult to we Yoruba Christians and we shall punish Tinubu for that before Satan will also purnish him.

"We cannot appoint Pablo Escobar as president and Osama bin Laden as vice president," -- Senator Dino Melaye.

floret23:
The bolded is how to know Tinubu's surpporters on social media.

You are not not a supporter of Tinubu, but your past comments on Nairaland has given you out. Why are you not proud of your presidential candidate? Why??

Your obsession with anything Tinubu is the reason why I had to dig much about him, I wonder why someone who happens not to have governed nor represented your constituency suddenly becomes your arch enemy.. and this could be traced mostly to people from a particular region..

If there would be people complaining bitterly about his person, that should be the Yoruba... but how come you lot are the ones irredeemably obsessed with him... You made this election about tinubu alone when in actual sense he's not the only candidate competing to win...

If something happens in the north, you would find means to link it with Tinubu, if you neighbour is having erectile dysfunction it is tinubu . You lot shouted Edo no be Lagos in an election that was conducted in Edo state, as if tinubu was the only external force that had interest in the election..

You blamed only tinubu for buhari's emergence yet you followed Atiku to the polls in 2019, does that mean Atiku didn't contribute to the ascension of Buhari to the presidential throne?

The multi million dollar question is, why are you people obsessed with tinubu?

LocalStandard1:
Disprove he didn't just like I proved he did.

Where is your prove?

LocalStandard1:
First off, I support Peter Obi not cos I am from the East, in fact I am not even a Southerner.

Fair enough.

I support the Labour Party's Obi cause let's look at Nigeria today. Take a look at the problems Nigeria is in right now, high-level Debt, insecurity, poor economic management, nepotism, out right and bare faced curroption, distrust of the citizens against the Government.

One man cannot solve this problem. So, wake up from your DELUSION.


It takes a collective effort to fight corruption, especially. And corruption is our biggest problem.

Now, I mentioned just a snippet of the problems but you will agree with me that they are things that all it takes is a President with the right body language, the right character and mind set to settle. Someone with integrity!

The president is not as powerful as you people are making him.


Can a president arrest a corrupt governor?



Can a president arrest the many other officials who enjoy immunity?



Can the president cut down on wastage in all arms of government?

Nobody can accuse the Labour Party's Peter Obi of corruption, nepotism, abuse of public funds, condoning crime and corruption, mismanagement of public funds.

Peter Obi invested public funds in a family business. That is conflict of interest. His nepotism was rife in Anambra state, including awarding the reconstruction of Government House to an associate, and a former campaign manager.


His lack of honesty and integrity has been exposed by the Pandora Papers which showed that Obi was worth far more than he declared to the law when he was taking over the mantle of leadership in Anambra state.

No one! Instead they say he's wrong to be frugal in office, they say he's wrong to save, they say he's stingy for cutting government cost, they say he's too gentle. These are the exact kind of person Nigeria need now.

Obi was not frugal, he was just insensitive. You people keep on confusing both.



If you are a father, who has money saved in the bank. If you have not met the basic needs of all of your children, and yet you continue to leave the money in the bank, then you are not frugal. You are STUPID.


Life is about making decisions. You make decisions to save after observing the situation. You also make decisions to spend if the situation calls for it.

Let's look at his only public outburst and the results.

Deno Melaye in a nation wide aired debate kept attacking Obi and acting like a child. After Obi called him out and rebuked him up till today Deno Melaye hasn't come after the OBIdients. That's a leader that knows when to be stern and assertive.

Rather, that is a pretender in the mold of Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida.


The same man who threatened fire and brimstone on MASSOB is the same afraid to designate ESN a terrorist organization.

This man is everywhere and anywhere since winning the Labour Party's President ticket. Talk about physical and mental fitness.

I guess Tinubu has been only in one place.

This man is ready and challenged anyone, anywhere to bring any negative allegations against him. Talk about character and self assuredness.

He spoke with the same confidence about leaving 75 billion for Anambra state, and even campaigned with it until he was busted.


He spoke with the same assuredness when he said he didn't owe anyone while leaving Government House. He was busted.



He spoke about leaving Anambra debt-free, the Budget Office busted him.



The pathological liar even swears on his life when he is lying.

This is who we need in Nigeria! Someone with character, an assertive personality, untainted, Uncorrupted, physically and mentally ready to be on the go, at all times.

A pathological liar is far from what we need. A nepotistic man who can't tell right from wrong, and has absolutely no knowledge of economics cannot lead a country like Nigeria.

We need someone with just the right Deputy also, ready and fit with the right character and intelliect to assume leadership when his principal is unavailable. We need people that can talk and understand both the young and old, the Christians and the Muslims, the poor and the wealthy, the Northerners and the Southerners, the layman and the intelligentuals.

These men are just right and ready even fit for the job!

You are just being emotional, which is understandable.


But this is not an intellectual discourse.



That is why no APC supporter will take your challenge.

LocalStandard1:
No I am not Igbo, I am from Southern Kaduna. Gwong is my tribe, from Jema'a LGA.

You are finding it hard to believe Peter Obi has supporters all around Nigeria cos you are a tribalist and your candidate can't boast of same.

I love both the Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba. I am not a tribalist, this is me supporting Prof. Yemi Osibanjo, an intelligent Omoluabi, before incompetent Tinubu bought the Presidential ticket with money....

https://www.nairaland.com/7155254/pictures-why-prof-yemi-osibanjo

https://www.nairaland.com/7546597/when-almost-became-apc-member

As you can see, I have no grudge against the Yoruba, I want the best for Nigeria and Obi happens to be it.

You mean you returned elrufai and tinubu is your problem?

You win brother! You can have the trophy now

When you argue with a fool he find means to drag you to his level and beat you with experience....

Kudos to floret and LocalStandard1, with the level of irrational talks from that BAT guy, I would have insulted him but you guys keep it cool... thanks and please educate and pray for them, Tinubu with his occultic manipulations has dealt with their thinking ability.

gashiwalesman:
You mean you returned elrufai and tinubu is your problem?

You win brother! You can have the trophy now

The delusion of the Obedients.


He says he wants an intellectual discourse.



How can one have an intellectual discourse when the subject of discussion is driven by emotions?


This is the reason why I have conveniently avoided political arguments.



It is driven by emotions. Obi is humble, Obi did not receive pension, Obi is agile. If it is about humility, agility, or others, Shehu Shagari would have turned Nigeria into paradise.



But no, the humble, incorruptible former civil servant, Shehu Shagari, turned Nigeria into a very corrupt country. It was said that the level of wanton corruption under Shagari remains unmatched till this day.

BluntTheApostle:
Fair enough.






One man cannot solve this problem. So, wake up from your DELUSION.


It takes a collective effort to fight corruption, especially. And corruption is our biggest problem.





The president is not as powerful as you people are making him.


Can a president arrest a corrupt governor?



Can a president arrest the many other officials who enjoy immunity?



Can the president cut down on wastage in all arms of government?






Peter Obi invested public funds in a family business. That is conflict of interest. His nepotism was rife in Anambra state, including awarding the reconstruction of Government House to an associate, and a former campaign manager.


His lack of honesty and integrity has been exposed by the Pandora Papers which showed that Obi was worth far more than he declared to the law when he was taking over the mantle of leadership in Anambra state.






Obi was not frugal, he was just insensitive. You people keep on confusing both.



If you are a father, who has money saved in the bank. If you have not met the basic needs of all of your children, and yet you continue to leave the money in the bank, then you are not frugal. You are STUPID.


Life is about making decisions. You make decisions to save after observing the situation. You also make decisions to spend if the situation calls for it.






Rather, that is a pretender in the mold of Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida.


The same man who threatened fire and brimstone on MASSOB is the same afraid to designate ESN a terrorist organization.





I guess Tinubu has been only in one place.





He spoke with the same confidence about leaving 75 billion for Anambra state, and even campaigned with it until he was busted.


He spoke with the same assuredness when he said he didn't owe anyone while leaving Government House. He was busted.



He spoke about leaving Anambra debt-free, the Budget Office busted him.



The pathological liar even swears on his life when he is lying.






A pathological liar is far from what we need. A nepotistic man who can't tell right from wrong, and has absolutely no knowledge of economics cannot lead a country like Nigeria.






You are just being emotional, which is understandable.


But this is not an intellectual discourse.



That is why no APC supporter will take your challenge.

when was he busted ooo....Cos all dis are known facts.....
I don't understand nigerians sha....ask yourself
If Peter Obi becomes President....Will it get worse dan this...
The country is in worst mess already...n you guys still want ur oppressors to continue...
Why cant we try a change and do away with dis Pdp and Apc thing....Let see wat another party we bring to d table....
The reason why i will b voting Labour party is not because i PO is a saint or messiah....but because we need to start filtering dis politicians....Any revolution dat can make an unknown Labour party win dis election will send a strong message to dis politicians...They will realize dat ppl are now wiser...
And if after 4yrs PO fails....trust me he wont b re..elected
But voting Apc again with all dis happenings and red flags is just total foolishnesss and stupidly sorry to say...cos it will b business as usual

GorillaApp:
Shots fired!!!


Ihordspy, tinubuadvocate, zulum500 freestuffNG, .
Oya make Una come defend Una lord and master.
The gauntlet has been dropped!

Gbagam! Round 1

Fight!!!

Let me sit at ring side for an interesting convo

Op dey look for an intelligent person no be those way agbado Nah him full their brain

DGOODLYF:
when was he busted ooo....Cos all dis are known facts.....
I don't understand nigerians sha....ask yourself
If Peter Obi becomes President....Will it get worse dan this...
The country is in worst mess already...n you guys still want ur oppressors to continue...
Why cant we try a change and do away with dis Pdp and Apc thing....Let see wat another party we bring to d table....
The reason why i will b voting Labour party is not because i PO is a saint or messiah....but because we need to start filtering dis politicians....Any revolution dat can make an unknown Labour party win dis election will send a strong message to dis politicians...They will realize dat ppl are now wiser...
And if after 4yrs PO fails....trust me he wont b re..elected
But voting Apc again with all dis happenings and red flags is just total foolishnesss and stupidly sorry to say...cos it will b business as usual

That is why I avoid you people.


What makes you think things won't get worse than this under Peter Obi?

LocalStandard1:
1. The Nigerian Debt Management Office (DMO) rated Anambra as the least indebted state in Nigeria. In spite of visible and measurable achievements recorded in various sectors, the State under him did not borrow or raise bonds for her various projects.

2. The Nigerian Debt Management Office (DMO) rated Anambra as the least indebted state in Nigeria. In spite of visible and measurable achievements recorded in various sectors, the State under him did not borrow or raise bonds for her various projects. 3. The Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria rated Anambra State as the most financially stable state in the country.

4. The state also entered into strategic partnership with the Churches in the Health sector. Through partnership with the Church in the Health sector, his Government funded the transformation of -: a: Iyienu Hospital, Ogidi; b: Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Ihiala; c: St Charles Borromeo Hospital, Onitsha; d: Holy Rosary Hospital, Waterside, Onitsha; and e: St. Joseph Hospital, Adazi-Nnukwu.

5. His Government also built the Joseph Nwilo Heart Centre in St. Joseph, Adazi-Nnukwu, where heart operations are now being performed.

6. His Government won the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (1 Million dollars) as the best-performing state in immunisation in the South-East.

7. The state was the first to procure and distribute more than 30,000 computers to secondary schools, including 22,500 from HP.

8. As part of the efforts to turn around the economy of the State, a number of companies were attracted to build their facilities in the Anambra state. A case in point is SABMiller, the 2nd largest brewery in the world. A number of other companies followed the SABMiller initiative.

give source to all your claims.

Mr intelligent obi supporter.
You could see the other person you claimed is not intelligent didn't pull crap from his butthole, he backed them with verifiable newpasper publications..

Obi governed in internet age, so it shouldn't be hard to provide.

LocalStandard1:
1. The Nigerian Debt Management Office (DMO) rated Anambra as the least indebted state in Nigeria. In spite of visible and measurable achievements recorded in various sectors, the State under him did not borrow or raise bonds for her various projects.

2. The Nigerian Debt Management Office (DMO) rated Anambra as the least indebted state in Nigeria. In spite of visible and measurable achievements recorded in various sectors, the State under him did not borrow or raise bonds for her various projects. 3. The Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria rated Anambra State as the most financially stable state in the country.

4. The state also entered into strategic partnership with the Churches in the Health sector. Through partnership with the Church in the Health sector, his Government funded the transformation of -: a: Iyienu Hospital, Ogidi; b: Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Ihiala; c: St Charles Borromeo Hospital, Onitsha; d: Holy Rosary Hospital, Waterside, Onitsha; and e: St. Joseph Hospital, Adazi-Nnukwu.

5. His Government also built the Joseph Nwilo Heart Centre in St. Joseph, Adazi-Nnukwu, where heart operations are now being performed.

6. His Government won the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (1 Million dollars) as the best-performing state in immunisation in the South-East.

7. The state was the first to procure and distribute more than 30,000 computers to secondary schools, including 22,500 from HP.

8. As part of the efforts to turn around the economy of the State, a number of companies were attracted to build their facilities in the Anambra state. A case in point is SABMiller, the 2nd largest brewery in the world. A number of other companies followed the SABMiller initiative.

Is this all u can come up with? Akpabio no be Obi mate talkless of Tinubu

Even the most intelligent Tinubu supporter will look very stupid debating with an Uneducated obidient.
The Ex Amuwo odofin chairman Adewale was an intellectual but while defending Tinubu
He messed himself.

LocalStandard1:
Tinubu is the worst Governor in Lagos history.

https://www.legit.ng/politics/1514587-tinubu-worst-civilian-governor-lagos-history-phrank-shaibu/

https://saharareporters.com/2023/01/16/apc-presidential-candidate-tinubu-worst-civilian-governor-lagos-history-steals-other

Don't say I didn't warn you....
https://www.nairaland.com/7552170/tinubu-isnt-capable-becoming-counselor

have you noticed all your links are recent..

You should start posting links from past like the other guy is doing?

I literally checked all your links just to be sure, but 99% of them were created after tinubu had made his intention known to become president.
Which could simply be termed propaganda.


Are there no negative links about tinubu in the past that you are seriously struggling to Find one?