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MaxInDHouse:
Is it true that you've been begging people for money on this forum?

Hahahha

Mumu, low life..

Leiylau:
You scoundrel of a beast sonmvayina didn't beg me shiiiit scrupulous rekhina made that up.

sonmvayina:
Hahahha
Mumu, low life..

Ọmọ you've been discharged and acquainted!

mysticwarrior:
Tell me how did Mary got conceived through the Holy Ghost?

Exactly as it is written is how.

Leiylau:
You scoundrel of a beast sonmvayina didn't beg me shiiiit scrupulous rekhina made that up.
Sonmvagina is better in critical thinking than u. Stop disturbing my mentions

Same way you witches make up rubbish and calling it Universal code.

Witches and lies. You witches are pathetic!

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Kobojunkie:
Exactly as it is written is how.

And you believe it because.............
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Christians will really have themselves to blame when God eventually sends the Messiah...from the tribe of Judah..
There is no idea of an anti Messiah in the Tanakh. (Antichrist according to Christian) The Messiah God will anoint is coming to bring peace and built the 3rd temple and continue the animal sacrifices as ordained by God in the Torah. These are the same things Christian think the anti Christ is coming to do...
I think they might put them selves in arms way and become the major casualty of the coming king......
I just pray Christians learn the truth before them and embrace the creator and his divine omenani/odinani for our benefit...

sonmvayina:
Christians will really have themselves to blame when God eventually sends the Messiah...from the tribe of Judah..
There is no idea of an anti Messiah in the Tanakh. (Antichrist according to Christian) The Messiah God will anoint is coming to bring peace and built the 3rd temple and continue the animal sacrifices as ordained by God in the Torah. These are the same things Christian think the anti Christ is coming to do...
I think they might put them selves in arms way and become the major casualty of the coming king......
I just pray Christians learn the truth before them and embrace the creator and his divine omenani/odinani for our benefit...

Hmmm. What you are expecting is the antichrist not Jesus Christ.

terrezo2002:
Hmmm. What you are expecting is the antichrist not Jesus Christ.

According to The Book of Daniel, it is the Anointed One that will rebuild Jesrusalem
Daniel 9 24 - 25
24 “A period of seventy sets of seven has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.d 25Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

guysbewise:
■ According to The Book of Daniel, it is the Anointed One that will rebuild Jesrusalem
Daniel 9 24 - 25
24 “A period of seventy sets of seven has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.d 25Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

Not just that.
■ He is to gather all cursed and scattered Israel back to Jerusalem
■ Usher in God's Kingdom of Priests
■ Sit as King forever on God's throne over Israel
Etc.

Kobojunkie:
Not just that.
■ He is to gather all cursed and scattered Israel back to Jerusalem
■ Usher in God's Kingdom of Priests
■ Sit as King forever on God's throne over Israel
Etc.

But in verse 26 it goes on to say the Anointed One will be cut off
Daniel 9 24 - 27
24“A period of seventy sets of sevenc has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.d 25Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

guysbewise:
But in verse 26 the Anointed One will be cut off
Daniel 9 24 - 27
24“A period of seventy sets of sevenc has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.d 25Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Technically, Daniel 9 informs of the rebuilding of the temple that took place over 2000 years ago - before the coming of Jesus Christ, and the eventual destruction of the temple about that time.

Kobojunkie:
Technically, Daniel 9 informs of the rebuilding of the temple that took place over 2000 years ago - before the coming of Jesus Christ, and the eventual destruction of the temple about that time.

There was no ruler who was the Anointed One 2000 years ago.
Daniel 9:25 "until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times."

guysbewise:
There was no ruler who was the Anointed One 2000 years ago.
Daniel 9:25 "until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times."

Verse 26 says the city and the holy place would be destroyed. That we know took place about 2000 years ago, yes?

The temple was rebuilt from the time after Daniel and then it, along with the city, was destroyed about 2000 years ago. Meaning the Anointed One has come and gone.

Kobojunkie:
Verse 26 says the city and the holy place would be destroyed. That we know took place about 2000 years ago, yes?

The temple was rebuilt from the time after Daniel and then it, along with the city, was destroyed about 2000 years ago. Meaning the Anointed One has come and gone.

There was no Anointed Ruler that did this 2000 years ago:
Daniel 9 :24 "A period of seventy sets of seven has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place"

25 Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

guysbewise:
There was no Anointed Ruler that did this 2000 years ago:

Did what exactly?

Kobojunkie:
Did what exactly?

There was no Anointed Ruler that did this 2000 years ago: bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

Daniel 9 :24 "A period of seventy sets of seven has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place"

25 Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

guysbewise:
■ There was no Anointed Ruler that did this 2000 years ago: bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

Daniel 9 :24 "A period of seventy sets of seven has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place"

So, no Anointed Ruler did any of that even though one clearly did?

Anyways, here's the situation. Daniel's prophecy has already been fulfilled in that the temple has been rebuilt only to then be destroyed again about 2000 years ago. Or are you of the mind that the temple will be rebuilt and destroyed again in the future?

Kobojunkie:
So, no Anointed Ruler did any of that even though one clearly did?

Anyways, here's the situation. Daniel's prophecy has already been fulfilled in that the temple has been rebuilt only to then be destroyed again about 2000 years ago. Or are you of the mind that the temple will be rebuilt and destroyed again in the future?

Anointed Ruler of which nation 2000 years ago?

guysbewise:
Anointed Ruler of which nation 2000 years ago?

The chosen rules over God's Nation of priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 for one.

That aside, I am particularly interested in understanding your digest of what is expressed there in Daniel 9 . According to that vision report, the temple would be rebuilt and then destroyed. So are you in fact saying you believe Jerusalem, and the temple, will be rebuilt in the future, only to then be destroyed again in order to confirm that vision?

terrezo2002:
Hmmm. What you are expecting is the antichrist not Jesus Christ.

This is exactly what am saying....

You guys are in big trouble...


The Messiah God will anoint has not come, and he is coming once, no idea of second coming in the Tanakh...it is when he can ensure peace, that is how they will know he is the Messiah...

Your anti Christ idea has no place in the Tanakh. Jesus was created by the Roman Catholic church to deceive...

Learn the truth and know peace..

A MESSIAH IS THE ANOINTED OF GOD, LORDGOD AND THE LORD FOR SOME SALVATION.
MESSIAHS ARE PROPHETS OF GOD, JESUS AND THE APOSTLES OF CHRIST.

orisa37:
A MESSIAH IS THE ANOINTED OF GOD, LORDGOD AND THE LORD FOR SOME SALVATION.
MESSIAHS ARE PROPHETS OF GOD, JESUS AND THE APOSTLES OF CHRIST.

Solomon and David where Messiahs..
Anointed with a special oil kept in the ark of the convenant...

Not baptism...which is a Mithraic ritual...

A Suffering Messiah?

Weren’t there any Jews who expected the Messiah to suffer and die? The short answer is that so far as we can tell, there were not. Christians often find this hard, even impossible, to believe. They have been raised in Christian churches where it is taught that the Messiah, in fact, was supposed to suffer, and they are guided to such passages as Isaiah 53, in the OT, as proof: He was despised and rejected by others,a man of suffering and acquainted with infirmity ,Surely he has borne our infirmities.and carried our diseases yet we accounted him stricken,struck down by God, and afflicted.But he was wounded for our transgressions,crushed for our iniquities;Upon him was the punishment that made us whole,
and by his bruises, we are healed (Isaiah 53:3-5) Christians will sometimes quote these verses and then say, “See! The Messiah was predicted to suffer!” Ask them to show where in the passage the word “Messiah” occurs. They are typically stunned since in fact, the word messiah is not to be found anywhere near this passage. They would say but this sounds just like the crucifixion of Jesus! And so does Psalm 22. And Psalm 69 — in each case, look to see if the author is talking about the Messiah. In all of these passages that speak about someone suffering, they are never talking about the Messiah.

It is Israel who is God’s servant, who has suffered for the sins of the people and so brought healing. Isaiah 53 was written during the Babylonian exile when the Babylonian armies had taken the leaders of Judah hundreds of miles away and forced them to live in Babylon. Isaiah is lamenting the exile, but indicating that the suffering will bring atonement for the sins of the people, and God will restore their fortunes. He is not talking about the future Messiah.

Kobojunkie:
The chosen rules over God's Nation of priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 for one.

That aside, I am particularly interested in understanding your digest of what is expressed there in Daniel 9 . According to that vision report, the temple would be rebuilt and then destroyed. So are you in fact saying you believe Jerusalem, and the temple, will be rebuilt in the future, only to then be destroyed again in order to confirm that vision?

The rulers of Isreals are anointed before they can become a ruler but nowhere was a Messiah anointed 2000 years ago. Jesus was not Anointed a Ruler in Israel 2000 years ago.

Daniel 9 :24 "A period of seventy sets of seven has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place"

25 Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

guysbewise:
The rulers of Isreals are anointed before they can become a ruler but nowhere was a Messiah anointed 2000 years ago. Jesus was not Anointed a Ruler in Israel 2000 years ago.

Again, that aside, I am particularly interested in understanding your digest of what is expressed there in Daniel 9 . According to that vision report, the temple would be rebuilt and then destroyed. So are you in fact saying you believe Jerusalem, and the temple, will be rebuilt in the future, only to then be destroyed again in order to confirm that vision?

You are well in your right to believe the anointed one has not arrived, assuming of course that the blood of Jacob in fact run through your vein given He was promised only to those who are of the House of Israel. I am more interested in understanding what it is you expect is to take place at that given what is clearly depicted in Daniel 9.

Kobojunkie:
Again, that aside, I am particularly interested in understanding your digest of what is expressed there in Daniel 9 . According to that vision report, the temple would be rebuilt and then destroyed. So are you in fact saying you believe Jerusalem, and the temple, will be rebuilt in the future, only to then be destroyed again in order to confirm that vision?

You are well in your right to believe the anointed one has not arrived, assuming of course that the blood of Jacob in fact run through your vein given He was promised only to those who are of the House of Israel. I am more interested in understanding what it is you expect is to take place at that given what is clearly depicted in Daniel 9.

Daniel's prophecy did not say a ruler—the Anointed One, will come a second time. The ruler—the Anointed One will only come once and that anointed ruler has not yet come.

Daniel 9 : 25 Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

guysbewise:
■Daniel's prophecy did not say ruler—the Anointed One, will come a second time. The ruler—the Anointed One will only come once and that anointed ruler has not yet come.

Daniel 9 : 25 Now listen and understand! Seven sets of seven plus sixty-two sets of seven will pass from the time the command is given to rebuild Jerusalem until a ruler—the Anointed One comes. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with streets and strong defenses, despite the perilous times.

1. So, what you are saying is that in the future, the temple in Jerusalem would first be rebuilt, then the anointed one would come and then die — never to be heard from again —, after which the temple would then be destroyed? This is what you believe is to happen?

Or are we instead to conclude Daniel's vision an absolute lie given that, the temple was rebuilt but then destroyed, however, and this according to you, no Anointed One showed up?

2. Just curious, if this Anointed one is never to be heard of again, how then is he to accomplish all that is written of Him in Isaiah, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc., if the temple is to be destroyed after He shows up as written of in Daniel 9?

Kobojunkie:
1. So, what you are saying is that in the future, the temple in Jerusalem would first be rebuilt, then the anointed one would come and then die — never to be heard from again —, after which the temple would then be destroyed? This is what you believe is to happen?

Or are we instead to conclude Daniel's vision an absolute lie given that, the temple was rebuilt but then destroyed, however, and this according to you, no Anointed One showed up?

2. Just curious, if this Anointed one is never to be heard of again, how then is he to accomplish all that is written of Him in Isaiah, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc., if the temple is to be destroyed after He shows up as written of in Daniel 9?

Daniel did not say we should go and read Isaiah, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc to know the "ruler—the Anointed One" he was talking about. There was no ruler who was the Anointed One 2000 years ago.

If you quote me anywhere again with insults THUNDER FIRE you wherever you are.

guysbewise:
Daniel did not say we should go and read Isaiah, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc to know the "ruler—the Anointed One" he was talking about. There was no ruler who was the Anointed One 2000 years ago.

If you quote me anywhere again THUNDER FIRE you wherever you are.

Be patient with him..

He has slow understanding.......he is following but at a snails pace...

Sometimes he can be an ass wipe.......

But just be patient, he surely will come round.

I think the anointed in Daniel 9 is Cyrus....

I will check to confirm...

guysbewise:
Daniel did not say we should go and read Isaiah, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc to know the "ruler—the Anointed One" he was talking about. There was no ruler who was the Anointed One 2000 years ago.

If you quote me anywhere again THUNDER FIRE you wherever you are.

Again....
1. So, what you are saying is that in the future, the temple in Jerusalem would first be rebuilt, then the anointed one would come and then die — never to be heard from again —, after which the temple would then be destroyed? This is what you believe is to happen?

Or are we instead to conclude Daniel's vision an absolute lie given that, the temple was rebuilt but then destroyed, however, and this according to you, no Anointed One showed up?

2. Just curious, if this Anointed one is never to be heard of again, how then is he to accomplish all that is written of Him in Isaiah, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc., if the temple is to be destroyed after He shows up as written of in Daniel 9?

So when you think of the Anointed one, you think of Him accomplishing only that written of Him by Daniel, forgetting all that is also expected of Him as foretold by the other prophets?

sonmvayina:
Be patient with him..

He has slow understanding.......he is following but at a snails pace...

Sometimes he can be an ass wipe.......

But just be patient, he surely will come round.

He was insultive on another thread just because he does not agree with my comment. If he does not agree with one's comment all he has to do is to post his comment without any insult. Hence the reason I want him off my posts.