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|Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 5:03pm On Mar 08|
ELI ELI LAMA SABACHTHANI
-This is for Sabbath Keepers (Xhosa/Bantu)
-My God my God, prepare our Sabbath (Bakor/Bantu)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? -Mathew 27:46.
Where you find "that is to say" or "which is to be interpreted" in scripture, someone is about to give his own opinion.
The Shabbat of YAHUAH was not commanded to be observed for a period of time but throughout the generations of the children of Israel. We are commanded to teach our children concerning YAHUAH with the observance of Shabbat as well as other feasts of YAH as commanded (which are also sabbaths).
"Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am YAHUAH that doth sanctify you."
And by the way, ELI is short for Elohim (God). The Bakor (Bantu) word Eleim refers to (Power, might, to do) which is the same meaning for the Hebrew word Elohim.
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|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by sammy4emy: 1:26pm On Mar 10|
Shalom! Nice one brother.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 1:15pm On Mar 11|
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by Bodydialect57: 4:29pm On Mar 25|
I will sure want to know about this Bantu people/language.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 10:15am On Mar 26|
There's so much info available... books, youtube videos etc.
40+ Bantu Names in the Scriptures:
The Bantu migration is actually the migration of ancient Israelites.
There's a powerful book on the Bantu language... I can send to you via email.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by Bodydialect57: 11:44am On Mar 26|
Okay. I wouldn't mind. omobobolamodupe@gmail, my mail add.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by lepasharon(f): 12:35pm On Mar 26|
We wuz kangs!
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 2:25pm On Mar 26|
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by oaroloye(m): 2:35pm On Mar 26|
Someone recently posted proof that GENESIS 1 in PROTO-HEBREW is identical to YORUBA without vowels.
Proto-Hebrew is made up entirely of CONSONANTS.
It follows that a number of other languages will turn up to be traceable to Proto-Hebrew language, differing only in vowel sounds.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by Bodydialect57: 3:38pm On Mar 26|
Thanks donnie, seen.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by MuttleyLaff: 4:48pm On Mar 26|
MuttleyLaff:I guess, the time is here, now is one of the time, I'll like to break and eat bread with you, lol
donnie:Brother Donnie, to start with:
1/ What language did Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus, the Messiah, the Anointed or Christ, depending on what is your preference, spoke?
2/ What language did the disciples and even the inner caucus disciples conversed, deliberated with our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world earth?
3/ What language is the spoken "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" (i.e. Mark 15:34) and really "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" (i.e. Matthew 27:46) done in?
4/ What to your understanding is the Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 - "Eli Eli _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _" (I've deliberately blanked out, so to talk more and/or indepth on it, later)
5/ What is the meaning of "lama" and "sabachthani" in Bakor (Bantu), Aramaic and Mishnaic Hebrew?
6/ Why did Yahshua Ha Mashiach utter "Eloi, Eloi/Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" on the cross at Calvary?
7/ To whose benefit did Yahshua Ha Mashiach utter out "Eloi, Eloi/Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" on the cross at Calvary?
8/ I watched that "40+ Bantu Names in the Scriptures" YouTube clip, you didnt explain that Simon means reed and Peter or Cephas in Greek means rock.
"Then he took Simon to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said,
"Your name is Simon son of John, but you will be called Cephas."
(This is the same as Peter and means ''a rock.'')'
- John 1:42
Peter's old and/or original/former name, was Simon, which means reed, this to the fact that, he practically, was a wavering person by nature, who just like a river water reed, tall, grass-like plants of wetlands, goes/flows in whatever direction the wind blows it. Anyway, Yahshua Ha Mashiach, renamed him to Peter, signifying a transformation to become resolute and rock steady, lol. You stopped short of acknowledging any of these information/knowledge
There is more to talk about and over this interesting topic "Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language" and I am holding back, amd not asking further grilling questions, just so you dont get to want to withdraw into a shell or bend down to bury head in sand.
Donnie, I hope you dont take me as an intrusion or as something of a negative nature. There is a colloquial in the Western part of the country, that says "orukọ, ma nro niyan" loosely translated means "Names and/or naming, have negative or postive propulsion on the bearer" People say how can God leave Adam alone in a garden with an unprotected "dangerous" but forget Adam wasnt a baby and that Adam had the singular privilege to name animals and so have the responsibility to give them genera/genuses and species names.
Each time God is asked what is your name. He conceals what it is and/or avoids telling except for saying "I AM that I AM". So the tetragrammaton, which is YHWH, is the closest we have of what God's no doubt Omnipotent powerful name is. Why is God not trusting us to know what specifically His Name is. Donnie, please c'mon nah, dont try to push YHW/Yah/Yahweh/Jehovah/YAHUAH,. Even Abba, that was mentioned in that YouTube clip, is a mere endearment word, a sweet nothings, affectionate name like "sweet potato, dahling, dear, my tomato, sugar plum, babe, baby, black coffee, queen, ayaba, olori, mami, big poppa, lollipop" etcetera. I think you feel me and do get my drift.
What's the point I am making here, trying to do it in a very careful and/or gently manner is that you're seem to understand the thread's heading and its subject matter not thoroughly and/or deeply enough which has led you to treat it in way that's feeble, light and lacking depth.
Lets Nike this. Lets Just Do It. Flesh this baby out. Blow it wide open and put the devil to shame, lol. Are you on. Are you game, lol. Afterall iron sharpens iron mehn, lol.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 5:57pm On Mar 26|
I dey come
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 6:17pm On Mar 26|
1. YAHUSHA HAMASHIYAH spoke Paleo-Hebrew aka Ancient Hebrew. What is being spoken as Hebrew today is Yiddish- a corruption of the original ancient Hebrew which is better represented or spoken in the Bantu languages. For example, Christ or Messiah is pronounced as HAMASHIYAH instead of HAMASHIACH (Yiddish).
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 6:18pm On Mar 26|
2. They spoke Bantu, because they were Bantu people. For example, the word "Tabitha Kumi" (Mark 5:41) means "take life from me" in Xhosa (Bantu) or "Take yours and arise" in Ejagham (Bantu).
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 6:29pm On Mar 26|
Eli Eli and Eloi Eloi are the same, referring to the same incident.
Eli ELi = "This, this" in Xhosa (Bantu).
So, "This this is for sabbath keepers" in Xhosa.
Also, Eli Eli or Eloi Eloi is short for ELOHIYM which is the same word as Elimo (Ki Kongo) and Eleim (Ejagham) both Bantu languages meaning "power" or "to do" or "might".
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 6:55pm On Mar 26|
Remember, He was Israel's Passover lamb.
1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And YAH did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Here we see a connection between...
1. The sabbath and the work that he did on calvary.
2. Our belief by which we enter into the same rest and
3. Our faith and connection to YAH. And we rest on the 7th day as YAH did from his. This is the sign of our connection to YAHUAH throughout our generations. (Exodus 31:13)
So the Savior cried out, notifying those who heard him, of the significance of his sacrifice and the people for which it was meant- Yisolele (Israel).
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 7:07pm On Mar 26|
"lam" in Bantu means to prepare. Like you say "lam uren" meaning "prepare soup".
When you connect it to Sabathani you say lama where the last "a" serves as the prefix for sabathani and also indicating a plural connotation ( Sabbaths).
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 7:18pm On Mar 26|
Yorubas are ancient Israelites as well.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 7:25pm On Mar 26|
6 & 7 are answered in my response to question 4.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 7:45pm On Mar 26|
You're welcome. SHALOM
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 8:15pm On Mar 26|
I said the Savior didn't speak Greek. The name Peter is Greek. Messiah spoke ancient Hebrew. He couldn't have given Simon a Greek name. It's a SCAM. Perhaps they wanted the name to match with the man many suspect to be the Peter of the Roman Catholic church- Simon Magus. Many of the god-men they worshipped in Rome went by the title Peter = Pater = Father.
The Romans who seized the scriptures, rewrote them in Greek. That was where our troubles began. They changed the savior's image to white and gave him a Greek name- Jesus. They hated and will never accept the idea of a black saviour.
The name Messiah gave him was "Kayfa". Meaning "the way" (Bokyi /Bantu) or "where is it?" (Igbo).
Shimon (Simon) in BAKOR/ Bantu means to shift or turn. Modern Hebrew says "to listen". Perhaps, implying that one will have to incline, shit, turn or bend over to listen.
|Re: Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani: Messiah Spoke Bantu Language by donnie(m): 8:20pm On Mar 26|
MuttleyLaff To be continued. Make I rest...
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