TenQ:
First, I mus appreciate your response to the questions. You are at least more HONOURABLE than most here. The responses are to the best of your understanding and I can see that references were used to justify your understanding.

Thanks one again!
I will break my response into two parts

Question 1:
If according to Islam, every prophet is in their graves PRAYING, how did Mohammed MEET them and converse with them in the seven heavens?

Your Response:

Did you even read at all?
Where does Soul settle?
With regard to where Souls settle, that depends on their status before Allah. For the one who is among those who are close to Allah (al-muqarrabin – cf. al-Waqi’ah 56:88), his status will be higher than those of the Right Hand (cf. al-Waqi’ah 56:90). The one who is higher may descend to the one who is lower but the one who is lower cannot ascend to the one who is higher, thus they will gather when Allah wills as they used to gather in this world, despite their differences in status, and they will visit one another.

That will happen whether their places in which they are buried in this world are far apart or close together. Souls may meet even though their places of burial are far apart, or they may be separated even though their places of burial are close together. A believer may be buried beside a disbeliever, but the soul of the former will be in Paradise whilst the soul of the latter is in Hell. Two men may be sitting or sleeping in the same place, but the heart of one is blessed and the heart of the other is tormented, and there is no connection between the two souls. As the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Souls are troops collected together and those who got along with each other (in the heaven from whence they come) would have an affinity with one another (in this world) and those amongst them who opposed each other (in heaven) would also be divergent (in the world).” (Narrated by Muslim, 2638; Majmu’ al-Fatawa, 24/368)

AntiChristian:


Did you even read at all?
Where does Soul settle?
With regard to where Souls settle, that depends on their status before Allah. For the one who is among those who are close to Allah (al-muqarrabin – cf. al-Waqi’ah 56:88), his status will be higher than those of the Right Hand (cf. al-Waqi’ah 56:90). The one who is higher may descend to the one who is lower but the one who is lower cannot ascend to the one who is higher, thus they will gather when Allah wills as they used to gather in this world, despite their differences in status, and they will visit one another.

That will happen whether their places in which they are buried in this world are far apart or close together. Souls may meet even though their places of burial are far apart, or they may be separated even though their places of burial are close together. A believer may be buried beside a disbeliever, but the soul of the former will be in Paradise whilst the soul of the latter is in Hell. Two men may be sitting or sleeping in the same place, but the heart of one is blessed and the heart of the other is tormented, and there is no connection between the two souls. As the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Souls are troops collected together and those who got along with each other (in the heaven from whence they come) would have an affinity with one another (in this world) and those amongst them who opposed each other (in heaven) would also be divergent (in the world).” (Narrated by Muslim, 2638; Majmu’ al-Fatawa, 24/368)

I think you misunderstood my response. I
1. First re-stated my original question
2. Then I quoted your response
3. Then I made my observations on your response
4. Finally, I asked questions relating to your response

Please check again, I even indicated I read your post and my observations on the details.

Thanks

Op we still need you alive Muslim can kill for insulting there prophet

ABIODUN105:
Op we still need you alive Muslim can kill for insulting there prophet

Thanks bro!
When it's time to die, we move. LOL!

I try my best not to just go insulting their religion and their prophet except when they push me into it. However, most of these things are reported in there own books, so it shouldn't be an insult it's only that they would like to rewrite the history of Mohammed which is now impossible

Even though, Wisdom directs, one should not be afraid of those who can kill the body as the worst they can do.

These post educate both Christians and Muslims alike at the end of the day.

shadeyinka:

Mr man. If only you had responded to the OP, I wouldn't have made that comment.

Even till now, the questions of the OP has been dodged by all of you Muslims. Was the travel of Mohammed to the 7 Heavens REAL or FICTIONAL! QED!!

I will wait for you to respond to the op

Was the ascension of jesus to heaven fake or real?

@shadeyinka
Let me answer him

drlateef:

Was the ascension of jesus to heaven fake or real?

1. The Ascension of Jesus was REAL and it occurred in the presence of His disciples and other followers.
Act 1:9:
"And having said this, while they were beholding [him] he was taken up, and a cloud received him out of their sight."

2. Even your Qur'an attests to the fact that Jesus was taken to Allah.


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

Mcbayo:
Shekau should be in position to answer that . I'm a christian

What about sheikh Antichristian? I can see his luxuriant beard, the mark of sheikhhood from here.


The two Angels asked Adam and Moses who their prophet was. And they answered Mohammed

TenQ:
@shadeyinka
Let me answer him

1. The Ascension of Jesus was REAL and it occurred in the presence of His disciples and other followers.
Act 1:9:
"And having said this, while they were beholding [him] he was taken up, and a cloud received him out of their sight."

2. Even your Qur'an attests to the fact that Jesus was taken to Allah.


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

Who took Jesus to heaven? What method of transport was used? And which heaven was he taken to? Is it possible for humans to survive without assistance in outer space?

TenQ:
@shadeyinka
Let me answer him

1. The Ascension of Jesus was REAL and it occurred in the presence of His disciples and other followers.
Act 1:9:
"And having said this, while they were beholding [him] he was taken up, and a cloud received him out of their sight."

2. Even your Qur'an attests to the fact that Jesus was taken to Allah.


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

The sure answer? It is areal fiction.


Islam is a joke

drlateef:




Was the ascension of jesus to heaven fake or real?

Jesus and d mohammed no dey the same league.

Everything Jesus did was with eye - witnesses.

Mohammed's case is Arabian Tale by the Moonlight

MightySparrow:



Jesus and d mohammed no dey the same league.

Everything Jesus did was with eye - witnesses.

Mohammed's case is Arabian Tale by the Moonlight

Didirin. Ignorant lout!!!

MightySparrow:



What about sheikh Antichristian? I can see his luxuriant beard, the mark of sheikhhood from here.


The two Angels asked Adam and Moses who their prophet was. And they answered Mohammed

Abegi find me this hadith, I want to laugh!

drlateef:




Who took Jesus to heaven? What method of transport was used? And which heaven was he taken to? Is it possible for humans to survive without assistance in outer space?

The scripture was clear
Act 1:9:
"And having said this, while they were beholding [him] he was taken up, and a cloud received him out of their sight."

1. He was taken up by HIMSELF
2. The cloud received him out of their sight.

After the clouds, the disciples couldn't see Jesus again therefore the issue of vacuum in space does not arise. We can say what was revealed.

But, so many things are possible for Jesus which is not possible for other humans LOL
Like
1. Creating a bird from clay
2. Giving life to the dead
3. Speaking as a baby etc

So, you think Jesus couldn't have survived if he went into the space vacuum? LOL!

Even then, you are the Muslim:
Allah himself in the Qur'an attests to the fact that Jesus was taken to Allah.

Qur'an 4:158
but Allah raised him to Himself.Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise

Is the Qur'an 4:158 wrong?






NOW that I have answered ALL your questions, please answer mine.


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

MightySparrow:

The sure answer? It is areal fiction.


Islam is a joke

Theybare so predictable!

Just watch him start going round in circles. They would say everything but avoid answering the question.

TenQ:

The scripture was clear
Act 1:9:
"And having said this, while they were beholding [him] he was taken up, and a cloud received him out of their sight."

1. He was taken up by HIMSELF
2. The cloud received him out of their sight.

After the clouds, the disciples couldn't see Jesus again therefore the issue of vacuum in space does not arise. We can say what was revealed.

But, so many things are possible for Jesus which is not possible for other humans LOL
Like
1. Creating a bird from clay
2. Giving life to the dead
3. Speaking as a baby etc

So, you think Jesus couldn't have survived if he went into the space vacuum? LOL!

Even then, you are the Muslim:
Allah himself in the Qur'an attests to the fact that Jesus was taken to Allah.

Qur'an 4:158
but Allah raised him to Himself.Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise

Is the Qur'an 4:158 wrong?






NOW that I have answered ALL your questions, please answer mine.


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

Stop quoting Quran, because you don’t believe the story in Quran. You said jesus took himself up, is he a astronaut or space diver? You are talking of miracles, if you believe in miracles, why can’t you believe the story of Muhammad mirage and israh as miracle? Is it only Jesus that was given power of miracles? You are so ignorant I don’t even know how many questions to throw at you.

TenQ:

The question is simple:

Is Mohammed's Night Journey To The 7 Heavens: REAL Or FICTIONAL ?


Only liars will twist and turn to avoid answering direct questions

Lol, coming from a potential thief 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

TenQ:

Abegi find me this hadith, I want to laugh!

3. [b]For Others (non prophets nor martyr) After some time in your grave, you are then visited by two angels, known as Munkar and Nakir. They are assigned to test the faith of those dead within their graves. When they arrive, they sit you up in your grave and ask you the following: “Who is your Lord? Who is your Prophet? And what is your faith?”. The result of your examination will determine if the grave will be comfortable or harsh for the person.

Summary:
All those who died on earth whether Martyr, Prophet or Anyone else are CONSCIOUS in their GRAVE

Finally:
Mohammed while ALIVE was taken by Jubril to Paradise and the seven Heavens in a night Journey . Isra Miraj is one of the most notable events in the religious history of Islam. I won't want to bore you with the ELABORATE IMAGINATIVE story .

1. Mohammed was taken by Jubril on one of the animals of heaven called
Buraq to “the farthest mosque” Masjid al-Aqsa, in Jerusalem. The Buraq is one of the animals of paradise and is described as “a white creature that is larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule, who would place its hoof (step) a distance equal to the range of his vision." (Sahih Al-Bukhari)
2. After this Mohammed was taken to the seven Heavens where he met (at different tares) the old prophets starting with Adam and then John the Baptist with Jesus and then Joseph, Aaron, Moses and Abraham (in the seventh heaven).
3. Then Mohammed was permitted to go above the seventh heaven . When he finally reached the highest level in the heavens, he was brought into the Divine Presence of the Almighty Allah s.w.t, alone at Sidratul Muntaha (a boundary beyond which none may pass). It is said to be the boundary that has never been passed by anyone except by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. Here, Rasulullah s.a.w. was given the Divine Decree for the believers to establish 50 daily prayers......and later reduced to 5 after he had consulted several times with Moses




It is inferred. The say everyone is born a Muslim: Adam was a Muslim, Moses and all prophets are Muslims. Islam started with Mohammed in 62x AD.
If there people are Muslims, they must have been attended to by the angels in the OP's narrative in the second section.[/b]

Islam is a joke for Tale by the Moonlight

drlateef:




Didirin. Ignorant lout!!!

Aha, Mohammed split the Moon, moon, moon and nobody noticed! Haba!!!!!!

He traveled at night to heaven nobody was a witness.
He saw Allah with two hands on his right side.


You don't have brain ni?

drlateef:

Stop quoting Quran, because you don’t believe the story in Quran.

1. If I quoted the bible for you, do you believe it? NO!
THEREFORE,
I quote that which you believe to prove my point. You believe in the Qur'an, therefore will you please respond.

Qur'an 4:158
but Allah raised him to Himself.Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise

Is the Qur'an 4:158 wrong?

It is a simple question

drlateef:

You said jesus took himself up, is he a astronaut or space diver? You are talking of miracles, if you believe in miracles, why can’t you believe the story of Muhammad mirage and israh as miracle? Is it only Jesus that was given power of miracles? You are so ignorant I don’t even know how many questions to throw at you.

Surah 29:50:
And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner.

Surah 13:7:
The unbelievers say, “Why has God not sent him, (Muhammad), some miracles.” Muhammad, you are only a warner. For every nation there is a guide.


Who do we believe, you or Allah?
Allah says no miracles was given to Mohammed as Mohammed is just a Warner!

So, how do you want to believe it's a miracle against the words of Allah?

Or, is there ANY verse of the Qur'an where Allah says Mohammed was given miraculous power or sign?


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

Watch him pretend he didn't read the question!
SMH!

LegalWolf:


Lol, coming from a potential thief 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Is Mohammed's Night Journey To The 7 Heavens: REAL Or FICTIONAL ?

MightySparrow:



3. [b]For Others (non prophets nor martyr) After some time in your grave, you are then visited by two angels, known as Munkar and Nakir. They are assigned to test the faith of those dead within their graves. When they arrive, they sit you up in your grave and ask you the following: “Who is your Lord? Who is your Prophet? And what is your faith?”. The result of your examination will determine if the grave will be comfortable or harsh for the person.

Summary:
All those who died on earth whether Martyr, Prophet or Anyone else are CONSCIOUS in their GRAVE

Finally:
Mohammed while ALIVE was taken by Jubril to Paradise and the seven Heavens in a night Journey . Isra Miraj is one of the most notable events in the religious history of Islam. I won't want to bore you with the ELABORATE IMAGINATIVE story .

1. Mohammed was taken by Jubril on one of the animals of heaven called
Buraq to “the farthest mosque” Masjid al-Aqsa, in Jerusalem. The Buraq is one of the animals of paradise and is described as “a white creature that is larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule, who would place its hoof (step) a distance equal to the range of his vision." (Sahih Al-Bukhari)
2. After this Mohammed was taken to the seven Heavens where he met (at different tares) the old prophets starting with Adam and then John the Baptist with Jesus and then Joseph, Aaron, Moses and Abraham (in the seventh heaven).
3. Then Mohammed was permitted to go above the seventh heaven . When he finally reached the highest level in the heavens, he was brought into the Divine Presence of the Almighty Allah s.w.t, alone at Sidratul Muntaha (a boundary beyond which none may pass). It is said to be the boundary that has never been passed by anyone except by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. Here, Rasulullah s.a.w. was given the Divine Decree for the believers to establish 50 daily prayers......and later reduced to 5 after he had consulted several times with Moses




It is inferred. The say everyone is born a Muslim: Adam was a Muslim, Moses and all prophets are Muslims. Islam started with Mohammed in 62x AD.
If there people are Muslims, they must have been attended to by the angels in the OP's narrative in the second section.[/b]

Islam is a joke for Tale by the Moonlight

The issue with them is sentimental attachment to Islamic religion at the expense of TRUTH and REASON!

Islamic Motto seems to be:
"Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have made up my mind"!

The Second part of my Response

AntiChristian:

In Islam, a human is composed of Soul and Body! The connection of Soul to body are defined differently in five cases:

A. as a foetus in the womb
B. at Birth
C. during sleep
D. in the Barzaakh (Period between death and the day of Resurrection). Here the soul is separated from the body but still has a connection to it.
E. On the day of Resurrection (when there will be no death)

The Soul separates from the body after death...
Imam Ahmad (17803) narrated that al-Bara ibn ‘Azib (may Allah be pleased with him) said:

“Verily, when the believing slave is about to depart this world and enter the Hereafter, there come down to him angels from heaven with white faces, as if their faces are the sun. They bring with them one of the shrouds of Paradise and some of the perfume of Paradise. They sit with him as far as the eye can see. Then the Angel of Death (peace be upon him) comes to him and sits by his head and says, ‘O pure soul, come out to the forgiveness and pleasure of Allah.’ Then his soul comes flowing out like a drop of water flowing from a cup. Then he takes the soul, and no sooner does he seize it but they take it and place it in that shroud and perfume. Then out of it comes the most excellent fragrance of musk to be found on the face of the earth. Then they ascend with it and they do not pass by any group of angels but the angels ask, ‘Who is this pure soul?’ and they reply, ‘It is So and So the son of So and So’ – using the best names by which he was known on earth. Then they bring it to the lowest heaven, and ask for it to be opened, and it is opened for him. Those who are of high rank in each heaven accompany it until they approach the next heaven, and so it goes until it reaches the seventh heaven. Then Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says: ‘Record the book of My slave in ‘Illiyyun (the highest heaven) and take him back to the earth, for I created them from it, and I shall return them to it, then I shall take them out from it again.’ Then his soul is returned to his body and two angels come and make him sit up”

Then the hadith mentions the questioning in the grave , then it mentions how the soul of the disbeliever is taken, then it says:

“Then they ascend with it and they do not pass by any group of angels but the angels ask, ‘Who is this evil soul?’ and they reply, ‘It is So and So the son of So and So’ – using the worst names by which he was known on earth. Then they bring it to the lowest heaven, and ask for it to be opened, and it is not opened for him.” Then the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) recited (interpretation of the meaning): “… For them the gates of heaven will not be opened, and they will not enter Paradise until the camel goes through the eye of the needle” [al-A’raf 7:40]. Then he said, “Then Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says: ‘Record the book of My slave in Sijjin (the lowest Hell) in the lowest earth. Then his soul is cast down.” Then he recited (interpretation of the meaning): “… and whoever assigns partners to Allah, it is as if he had fallen from the sky, and the birds had snatched him, or the wind had thrown him to a far off place.” [al-Hajj 22:31]. He said, “Then his soul is returned to his body and two angels come and make him sit up” Then it mentions the questioning in the grave .” (Classed as sahih by al-Albani in Sahih al-Jami‘, 1676)

In the Barzaakh, the soul of the dead meet one another as Allah wills. The Soul can be returned to the body as Allah wills.

According to the hadith narrated from Abu Ayyub al-Ansari and others of the salaf, and narrated by Abu Hatim in al-Sahih from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him): “When his soul is taken up it is met by the souls who ask him about the living and they say to one another: ‘Let him rest.’ And they say: ‘What happened to So and So?’ And he says: ‘He did a righteous deed.’ They say: ‘What happened to So and So?’ and he says: ‘Has he not come to you?’ They say: ‘No.’ They say: ‘He was taken to the Pit (of Hell).’”

And because the deeds of the living are shown to the dead, Abu’l-Darda used to say: “O Allah, I seek refuge with You from doing any deed that would shame me before ‘Abd-Allah ibn Rawahah.” This is how they meet when he comes and they ask him questions and they answer him.

Where does Soul settle?
With regard to where Souls settle, that depends on their status before Allah. For the one who is among those who are close to Allah (al-muqarrabin – cf. al-Waqi’ah 56:88), his status will be higher than those of the Right Hand (cf. al-Waqi’ah 56:90). The one who is higher may descend to the one who is lower but the one who is lower cannot ascend to the one who is higher, thus they will gather when Allah wills as they used to gather in this world, despite their differences in status, and they will visit one another.

That will happen whether their places in which they are buried in this world are far apart or close together. Souls may meet even though their places of burial are far apart, or they may be separated even though their places of burial are close together. A believer may be buried beside a disbeliever, but the soul of the former will be in Paradise whilst the soul of the latter is in Hell. Two men may be sitting or sleeping in the same place, but the heart of one is blessed and the heart of the other is tormented, and there is no connection between the two souls. As the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Souls are troops collected together and those who got along with each other (in the heaven from whence they come) would have an affinity with one another (in this world) and those amongst them who opposed each other (in heaven) would also be divergent (in the world).” (Narrated by Muslim, 2638; Majmu’ al-Fatawa, 24/368)

Moreso, this a matter of the unseen and we can only state what is narrated or proven in the authentic tradition of the Prophet!

My Observations:
1. Souls are treated as Living Persons.
2. Souls are treated as Representing the dead body
3. The Soul is DIFFERENT from the Body
4. On Earth while ALIVE, the Body is treated as the Person.

If all these above is TRUE (I beg to be corrected in any of the points above where I've erred), is Islamic position that Human beings are DUALITIES?

Knowing that no such words like Duality exist in Islamic theology, I wish to state the meaning here below

Duality meaning that
A man's Body is a Person
The man's Soul is a Person
The Body is NOT the Soul
Yet
The Soul and Body of the man is ONE!

The Question again:
Is the Islamic position not supporting that Human beings are DUALITIES?

drlateef:




Didirin. Ignorant lout!!!

All he needs is presentable evidence that miracles occurred. Since they occured over 600 years ago, credible witnesses will suffice

drlateef:




Was the ascension of jesus to heaven fake or real?

It was real. It was witnessed by Jesus disciples and followers who attested to it as a real experience and wrote about it.
Mohammed who travelled to heaven 600 years after the Ascension confirmed it was real...he saw Jesus in heaven.

The Islamic doctrine is based on the revelation of one Man, just one Man. No other Muslim received any divine revelation apart from Mohammed. No one corroborated his revelation during his lifetime or after his death.

Yet Muslims will tell u to abandon a doctrine revealed to hundreds of prophets over thousands of years. They all confirmed and wrote the same thing about God at different times in history- this is the most authentic chain of narration a religion can offer.

All Islamic chain of narration can only be traced to just one Man who claimed to have spoken to an angel inside a cave, no one else spoke to this angel or saw the angel.
Muhammed changes his revelation at will and nobody can question him because no one else can communicate with Allah or jibril except Muhammad. Even smart Aisha smelled a rat and was suspicious of Mohammed's God of convenience.

Muslims always brag about chain of narration in Islam, but what weakest chain can exist than a religion that has her narration and the faith of millions tied to the testimony of just one Man.


One man whose testimony had no other witness. No independent verification or confirmation of muhammed's prophecy or revelation. Every thing about Islam goes back to him only.

A man whose revelation contradicted past real life events and had to kill Jews who questioned it in order to sustain his lies. I call such testimony a scam and a fraud. This makes Islam a one chance bus.

Let's assume the Jews in Medina were betrayers and deserves what came upon them. But is there someone else that can challenge the Jews/Christians and confirm Muhammed's own 'version of truth' by divine or theological independent verification.

Muslims pls think for a minute. Have u guys ever wondered if this man was schizophrenic or suffering from psychosis of delusion.

U could say the same about Jesus but he had 12 disciples who witnessed his divinity e.g the transfiguration. His disciples and hundreds of followers attested to his crucifixion, resurrection and ascension. Philip the doubter called him my Lord and my God after witnessing his resurrection.

Paul who never met Jesus received his own revelation independently on the road to Damascus.

Can Muslims boast of this, u guys have pinned your hope on a single man who could have been a fraud.
A man whose life is a far cry from any resemblance of prophethood. Muhammad's lifestyle is so embarrassing that progressive Muslims now deny the hadith that wrote about such lifestyles.

Muhammed is no prophet, Muslims should think, don't be fooled. A prophet should be able raise men who will continue his work of divine revelation, he trained nobody. A prophet should be able to perform miracles, he did none according to the Koran.

Muhammed hated the Jews because most of the things he said contradicted what's in their books- the Torah, and they rightly rejected him. That's why he had them expelled from the Arabian peninsula to prevent them from exposing his lies.

[quote author=TenQ post=121025872]
The issue with them is sentimental attachment to Islamic religion at the expense of TRUTH and REASON!

Islamic Motto seems to be:
"Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have made up my mind"![/quote


#teamabdul

TenQ:
Watch him pretend he didn't read the question!
SMH!



Is Mohammed's Night Journey To The 7 Heavens: REAL Or FICTIONAL ?

What I know is that you TenQ of Nairaland is a potential thief🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

SIRTee15:


It was real. It was witnessed by Jesus disciples and followers who attested to it as a real experience and wrote about it.
Mohammed who travelled to heaven 600 years after the Ascension confirmed it was real...he saw Jesus in heaven.

Thats how mirage and israh was real. Now tell me if the ascension of Jesus followed scientific rules? If it did not follow scientific rules, thats miracle. And thats exactly what happened in Muhammad’s case.

TenQ:

All he needs is presentable evidence that miracles occurred. Since they occured over 600 years ago, credible witnesses will suffice

So, who told you there were no witnesses when those miracles happened?

TenQ:

1. If I quoted the bible for you, do you believe it? NO!
THEREFORE,
I quote that which you believe to prove my point. You believe in the Qur'an, therefore will you please respond.

Qur'an 4:158
but Allah raised him to Himself.Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise

Is the Qur'an 4:158 wrong?

It is a simple question



Surah 29:50:
And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner.

Surah 13:7:
The unbelievers say, “Why has God not sent him, (Muhammad), some miracles.” Muhammad, you are only a warner. For every nation there is a guide.


Who do we believe, you or Allah?
Allah says no miracles was given to Mohammed as Mohammed is just a Warner!

So, how do you want to believe it's a miracle against the words of Allah?

Or, is there ANY verse of the Qur'an where Allah says Mohammed was given miraculous power or sign?


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

I hope you can think: if you read that Allah took Eesa to Himself and you believe it, because that is why you quote it, what stops you believing the same Allah that says mirage snd Israh happened? Don’t you read that too in Quran?

TenQ:
Page TWO:

REFERENCES and BACKGROUND




Even though this is related, the post of today starts with the Quranic verse.

Qur'an 3:144
Muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.

In Summary:
1. Mohammed is a Messangers
2. Other Messangers before Mohammed had died (in context to the next sentence)
3. Therefore, IF after the death of Mohammed his followers left Islam it doesn't do Allah any harm BUT those who remain faithful in gratitude, Allah will reward.

The issue today is NOT to argue whether Jesus is an exception or not but another interesting observation in the hadith below


Sahih al-Bukhari 7427, 7428
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "v[b]The people will fall unconscious[/b] on the Day of Resurrection, then suddenly I will see Moses holding one of the pillars of the Throne." Abu Huraira said: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "I will be the first person to be resurrected and will see Moses holding the Throne."

This is also supported by Saheeh al-Jaami' as-Sagheer: No. 2570 and 2373,


Summary:
On the day of Resurrection, Mohammed would be the FIRST to be Resurrected!



The Question is:
Before the day of Resurrection, where are ALL those who died on earth?

Mohammed, gave us the answer:

1. The Martyred:
“And say not of those who are martyred in the way of Allah, “they are dead”, nay, they are living, though you perceive it not” (Surah al-Baqarah, 154).
2. The Prophets
Anas ibn Malik narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “The Prophets are alive in their graves performing Salat” (Recorded by al-Bayhaqi in his Hayat al-Anbiya’ and Abu Ya’la in his Musnad).


Mohammed confirmed that he also will be in the grave
Aws ibn Aws narrates the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as saying: “Send salutations in abundance on me on Friday, as your sending salutations are presented to me.” The Companions inquired: “How is it possible that you receive our salutations when your body will have been decayed?” The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Verily Allah has made forbidden on the earth that it eats the bodies of the Prophets” (Recorded by Abu Dawud, Nasa’i, Ibn Majah, Darami and others, and authenticated by many, such as Ibn al-Qayyim).

3. For Others (non prophets nor martyr) After some time in your grave, you are then visited by two angels, known as Munkar and Nakir. They are assigned to test the faith of those dead within their graves. When they arrive, they sit you up in your grave and ask you the following: “Who is your Lord? Who is your Prophet? And what is your faith?”. The result of your examination will determine if the grave will be comfortable or harsh for the person.

Summary:
All those who died on earth whether Martyr, Prophet or Anyone else are CONSCIOUS in their GRAVE

Finally:
Mohammed while ALIVE was taken by Jubril to Paradise and the seven Heavens in a night Journey . Isra Miraj is one of the most notable events in the religious history of Islam. I won't want to bore you with the ELABORATE IMAGINATIVE story .

1. Mohammed was taken by Jubril on one of the animals of heaven called
Buraq to “the farthest mosque” Masjid al-Aqsa, in Jerusalem. The Buraq is one of the animals of paradise and is described as “a white creature that is larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule, who would place its hoof (step) a distance equal to the range of his vision." (Sahih Al-Bukhari)
2. After this Mohammed was taken to the seven Heavens where he met (at different tares) the old prophets starting with Adam and then John the Baptist with Jesus and then Joseph, Aaron, Moses and Abraham (in the seventh heaven).
3. Then Mohammed was permitted to go above the seventh heaven . When he finally reached the highest level in the heavens, he was brought into the Divine Presence of the Almighty Allah s.w.t, alone at Sidratul Muntaha (a boundary beyond which none may pass). It is said to be the boundary that has never been passed by anyone except by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. Here, Rasulullah s.a.w. was given the Divine Decree for the believers to establish 50 daily prayers......and later reduced to 5 after he had consulted several times with Moses




The Discussion Questions are in Page 1:

Thank you!

This is very rich coming from a Christian who wholeheartedly believes Cain built a whole city alone, donkeys and snakes talk, sun stood still, a dude lived in a fish for days, a virgin got preggies etc.
Aint it funny

drlateef:




Thats how mirage and israh was real. Now tell me if the ascension of Jesus followed scientific rules? If it did not follow scientific rules, thats miracle. And thats exactly what happened in Muhammad’s case.

Who are the witness, who can corroborate the story.
Where is the evidence? Did someone else confirmed the miracle apart from Muhammad.
These things are too unreal to leave to the imagination or testimony of just one man.
There has to be eye witness account for these stories to be credible.
That's why prophets performed miracles, signs and wonders to prove to people they are truly sent by God.
People witnessed the crucifixion, death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus. He performed miracles.
We need same for Muhammad, where is evidence? It might as well been a dream he turned into reality since nobody witnessed anything.
Refer to my post above to understand the authentic chain of narration we want from Muslims.