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seunmsg:
Fergie01 and garfield1, can you guys help us with the decision of the Supreme Court in the 2003 case between Obasanjo and Buhari. I just heard that the issue of 25% of FCT was one of the issues put before the court and it was held that FCT should be treated as any other states and a candidate is not require to get 25% in FCT.

Another matter, Supreme Court, 2021.

Skyview01:
Haba, why you dey teach urchins how to rig na!

Them no sabi anything

They knew they were rigging at first, leave rivers and rig Abuja

They like to Urchinate

First if they had win Abuja they would have told the rest to go to court

Now Runoff and everybody know APC is rigging

The anger is 2x

Abdul4trust1:
I'll laugh at you tomorrow by God's grace

You mean laugh at your own misery? How does bad government affect me?

Sweetberry123:
Nothing pdp could hve done to get 25pc In Fct. No one saw this coming not even obi or Atiku. Obi really raped Atiku in this election, decimated him totally, near annihilation. Even I underrated him. I tot hed get a few votes here and there, but boy did he get more than a few votes! Tinubus greatest mistake which will follow him to his grave is not paying attention to fct. Already inec has her already tainted imag to protect after not having uploaded the results from PUs on their servers as stipulated in the EA. This is inecs only chance to redeem her battered image. There will be a rerun. And Waziri will be declared winner. We just need an alliance with Kwankwaso to stop the haemmorage in Kano. LP supporters would return home where they belong like the prodigal son, and the PDP would welcome them with open arms. O FCT, the city of Miracles.

Read this and weep, straight from the Supreme Court.
Tell Atiku to show Jennifer this to explain it to him.

Esaint2016:
Remind me if INEC don't call for Runoff little kid

Ode opomu! You can call for it in your erosion-ravaged enclave. Ewu!

Firstorderwizard:
I personally consulted my uncle (a retired judge in his 80's) on the interpretation of the constitution.
Mind you He is a member of the 1997/98 constitutional conference that drafted the 1999 constitution.
He said that the FCT 25% clause was added because the President is like the FCT "governor" who now appoints a Minister to run the territory for him.
Therefore, for the President to be the Legitimate head of the FCT, He must have 25% approval of the people in FCT.

seunmsg:
Section 299 of the constitution says: “The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation.”

I just check am now and I think the zombedients don't have any argument at all,the constitution already recognized Abuja as one of the states of the federation.

CockAndBullStor:
Ode opomu! You can call for it in your erosion-ravaged enclave. Ewu!

Why are you crying little kid?


A typical behaviour of a spoilt kid


Remind me once INEC calls for Run off

Now runoff

Firstorderwizard:
I personally consulted my uncle (a retired judge in his 80's) on the interpretation of the constitution.
Mind you He is a member of the 1997/98 constitutional conference that drafted the 1999 constitution.
He said that the FCT 25% clause was added because the President is like the FCT "governor" who now appoints a Minister to run the territory for him.
Therefore, for the President to be the Legitimate head of the FCT, He must have 25% approval of the people in FCT.

INEC will dash who they want power

Obidients are still in the denial phase.

You will all be alright last last

More on this topic.

It is not compulsory...what it is saying is that assuming the candidate has 25% in 23 states, and the one which is to seal the deal is from the FCT, then the candidate has fulfilled the requirements of the constitution. That makes it 24...that is why it said FCT must be treated as if it were a state regarding constitution matters.

chibrolex:
...So you that is not misleading him,what is 2/3 of 37 state since you are now claiming that Abuja is now a state?mind you said 25% in at least 24 states,you are also meaning that we have 36 states because 2/3 of 36 is 24....My pls go and prepare for a run-off with 21 days as stipulated in the electoral act.....TINUBU is the loser in this case because LP and PDP will team up and mess him up.

No one has a monopoly of knowledge

Abuja is not a must once you are able to get 25% from 24 state.

There's nothing like rerun in this election

If otherswise Obi eonyw have been clamoring for cancellation

I understand you are been centimeters but the law is very clear.

Try and make your research and stop dragging what you don't have knowledge about.

All this assumptions not specifically Mentioned in the counstitutions will only compound the woes of the losers. The laws says 25% in 2/3 of the 36 states of the federation and Abuja this could also be interpreted as Abuja inclusive of the 36 states, the 2/3 rules should apply. The drafters of the constitution would not be stupid enough not to mention in clear terms if it’s mandatory to get 25% vote in Abuja to win the election all these submissions are just mere personal interpretations. The courts would decide on that thou but what I guarantee is that INEC would announce the results and return the winner.

PointB:
You mean laugh at your own misery? How does bad government affect me?

a man that couldn't remove poverty in Anambra what to remove it from Nigeria.

G.o.a.t

Levels2:
No one has a monopoly of knowledge

Abuja is not a must once you are able to get 25% from 24 state.

There's nothing like rerun in this election

If otherswise Obi eonyw have been clamoring for cancellation

I understand you are been centimeters but the law is very clear.

Try and make your research and stop dragging what you don't have knowledge about.

Abuja is a MUST.

The constitution said AND FCT. Until you remove AND FCT clause, you must meet the requirement.

I doubt if INEC will be bold enough to ignore this fact. So calm down and face the run-off. What are you afraid of? Afterall it's the mighty jagagban we are talking about. What's a run-off for him? A walk in the park.

PointB:
If the FCT was to be treated as one the states, what then is the point of the constitution specifically mentioning it in the provision? Secondly, why is gubernatorial election not conducted to elect a Governor for FCT, as it is done for the states?

Apt!!!

dat9jaguy:
Let us start by knowing this your uncle, then we can contact him to personally hear from him. We no want 3rd party gist.

No need contacting the old man. If his submission doesn't make sense, counter him with proof

More on this topic.
Some Obidients have already asked Femi Falana to weigh in on the topic.

PointB:
Abuja is a MUST.

The constitution said AND FCT. Until you remove AND FCT clause, you must meet the requirement.

I doubt if INEC will be bold enough to ignore this fact. So calm down and face the run-off. What are you afraid of? Afterall it's the mighty jagagban we are talking about. What's a run-off for him? A walk in the park.

At this juncture, I need not to dragged with you further since you aren't ready to learn.


You don't know something and I'm trying to correct you instead you keep saying same thing.

Even Obi team knew there's nothing of such hence clamoring for cancellation

If otherswise he will be so happy knowing that Atiku is out of the race as such since he was claiming to have won then it will be a walkaway for him

ABI no be obedient again 🤣🤣

Once Tinubu is clear president elect I think by then you will remember someone was correcting you then.

Enjoy your day

Levels2:
At this juncture, I need not to dragged with you further since you aren't ready to learn.


You don't know something and I'm trying to correct you instead you keep saying same thing.

Once Tinubu is clear president elect I think by then you will remember someone was correcting you then.

Enjoy your day

Correct who? When you understand conjunctive clause, then you can come back and correct me. Quoting Falana as if a Human Right lawyer is a Constitutional lawyer, let alone the Constitution.

Tinubu will NOT be declared winner. He did not meet the basic requirement. There is no winner, the election is inconclusive. A run-off will be required.

PointB:
Correct who? When you understand conjunctive clause, then you can come back and correct me. Quoting Falana as if a Human Right lawyer is a Constitutional lawyer, let alone the Constitution.

Tinubu will NOT be declared winner. He did not meet the basic requirement. There is no winner, the election is inconclusive. A run-off will be required.

.

Noted

I know people like you.

Once they declare TINUBU as the president elect, I will be waiting patiently for your worse


Won't be responding to your qoute anymore

Enjoy your night

Levels2:
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Noted

I know people like you.

Once they declare TINUBU as the president elect, I will be waiting patiently for your worse


Won't be responding to your qoute anymore

Enjoy your night

Go and declare him winner, since you're the INEC Chairman and the constitution at the same time.

Wickedfacts:
Another matter, Supreme Court, 2021.

Thanks for this. I think the matter is now settled.

Firstorderwizard:
I did some law courses in the university though am not a lawyer. I guess we'll leave it for senior lawyers to interpret then.
Remember that Mike Igini himself, a Lawyer and former INEC rec said on national tv that the 25% for FCT is mandatory.
Nobody saw this coming seriously. It's really thrilling
Democracy sweet, na Africans just dey spoil am with ethnicity and religion

Emm I did see it coming https://www.nairaland.com/7566883/tinubu-25-24-states-fct

Even in some of my other post. I warned senatordave1 aka garfield1 over and over again. I know my Abuja people very well. Born and bred. APC had zero chance of 25% there. They even tried to get 20%. They couldn’t rig Abuja under Buhari’s nose.

But I suspect they will rig the constitution lol. Nothing Tinubu can’t rig. We will find out soon ❤️

wegevv:
Emm I did see it coming https://www.nairaland.com/7566883/tinubu-25-24-states-fct

Even in some of my other post. I warned senatordave1 aka garfield1 over and over again. I know my Abuja people very well. Born and bred. APC had zero chance of 25% there. They even tried to get 20%. They couldn’t rig Abuja under Buhari’s nose.

But I suspect they will rig the constitution lol. Nothing Tinubu can’t rig. We will find out soon ❤️

They will declare tinubu and you will go to court and lose

senatordave1:
They will declare tinubu and you will go to court and lose

I don’t doubt it.

Nothing Tinubu can’t rig. Whether na constitution or Supreme Court he go rig am. Congrats ❤️

PointB:
Abuja is a MUST.

The constitution said AND FCT. Until you remove AND FCT clause, you must meet the requirement.

I doubt if INEC will be bold enough to ignore this fact. So calm down and face the run-off. What are you afraid of? Afterall it's the mighty jagagban we are talking about. What's a run-off for him? A walk in the park.

Lol. How are you my friend Point B? It's been a while.

On the subject matter, I think you are misplacing the AND. I think what the section mean is scoring at least 25% in any 2/3 states of the (36 states AND FCT). The AND is only joining FCT to the already established 36 states making it technically "37 states".

I don't think it means a special 25% must be scored in FCT.

Abuja has the status of a state. Being a federal territory,The 'governor' is the president who administer it through a ministerial appointee.

So if you score majority votes and 25% in any of the 2//3 of the '37 states' (original 36 states AND FCT which is 24.666 approx 25 states you win.

Now ... If for a moment you are right about Abuja having a special status requiring special 25% , then the rerun will only be between APC and PDP and only in FCT since FCT special requirement is the problem. But I don't believe the writers of the constitution mean that.

OAM4J:
Lol. How are you my friend Point B? It's been a while.

On the subject matter, I think you are misplacing the AND. I think what the section mean is scoring at least 25% in any 24 states of the (36 states AND FCT). The AND is only joining FCT to the already established 36 states making it technically "37 states".

I don't think it means a special 25% must be scored in FCT.

Abuja has the status of a state. Being a federal territory,The 'governor' is the president who administer it through a ministerial appointee.

So if you score majority votes and 25% in any of the 24 of the '37 states' (original 36 states AND FCt) you win.

Now ... If for a moment you are right about Abuja having a special status requiring special 25% , then the rerun will only be between APC and PDP and only in FCT since FCT special requirement is the problem. But I don't believe the writers of the constitution mean that.

Now anybody that win Abuja will be declared abi?

seunmsg:
There is already a judgement of the Supreme Court on this matter and I hope to get my hand on it soon. However, section 299 of the constitution is very clear, FCT is to be treated as a state. Section 299 of the constitution says: “The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation.”

As if it were. Meaning it still retains its FCT status.

The fact that it is still the FCT means that the leading candidate must score 25% in the FCT.

If 299 eradicated it's FCT status then it would be a different matter altogether. Then you'd be correct in saying that the 25% doesn't matter.

puremaker7:
Now anybody that win Abuja will be declared abi?

No. You must still win majority of the votes from the 36 states AND FCT and have min 25% from 24 states.

But like I wrote earlier, I don't think Abuja is special and different from other states. So there will be no rerun specially for Abuja.

NothingDoMe:
As if it were. Meaning it still retains its FCT status.

The fact that it is still the FCT means that the leading candidate must score 25% in the FCT.

If 299 eradicated it's FCT status then it would be a different matter altogether. Then you'd be correct in saying that the 25% doesn't matter.

What is 'FCT status' that makes it special? FCT/Abuja in the eye of the law is just like any other states, just that it is under federal government administration. It has a state status like Oyo or Imo or Kogi or Kano.