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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Parachoko: 4:08pm On Mar 02, 2023
babajero:
I have plenty of it, not talking of labour party itself that is going to court they will be in possession of tons of it. One is the one of bauchi local government in bauchi state, where labour party won with a landslide but in inec announcement they apportioned the votes to apc pdp and nnpp and gave labour party just 400 but thanks to God it was signed and snapped by the party agents.

Abiliboi:


I have 11 down with me and I have transferred all to the party forum already.

Good! Make we dey wait for him to approach the tribunal with all this una evidence
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by senatordave1(m): 4:10pm On Mar 02, 2023
jaxxy:


Without this process and procedure the new electoral act is void and therefore a breach of the constitution.

it's simple.

Not true.electronic transmission isn't constitutional
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 4:19pm On Mar 02, 2023
onuman:


The proclaimed winner had no spread either, because his results were mostly forged.
Imagine for example, Tinubu winning Rivers state. Rivers people are up in arms against the robbery of election in their state. We must not allow Buhari cabal that wants to continue in office through Shettima as effective president with aged and sickly Tinubu as figure head president, to set fire on Nigeria.
tinubu fit pass obi but continue with ur stupid propaganda
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by GerogeI(m): 4:19pm On Mar 02, 2023
senatordave1:


It is simple.transmission can be manual or electronic.not transmitting it electronically does not invalidate the result.non transmission invalidates the results

You cannot transmit a record directly from the polling unit in a manual form, to do so means to go from your polling unit to INEC register in Abuja for submission. So transmission, qualified by "directly form polling unit" intrinsically excludes any form of manual delivery by paper.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Enemyofpeace: 4:20pm On Mar 02, 2023
Rikidony:
I'm still not understanding embarassed
me too. The thing too long.

Op please write it out in our various dialects for people like Mynd44, ajepako, folake4u (baby lawyer) Dominique, justwise, mannabbqgrils, iyangbali, babangbali, enemyofprogress, funkybabee and even seun go understand what you wroted
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 4:22pm On Mar 02, 2023
babajero:
All Labour party needs to do is to show at least 20 video evidences where votes counted at the local government is different from what inec announced and the court will declare them winner, and I believe there are hundreds of such videos and altered result sheets in favour of APC.
grin grin Ina funny sha
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by blabulu2000: 4:23pm On Mar 02, 2023
Op

Tell me one Nigeria election that is free and fair./

Including underage voting in Anambra state...
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Enemyofpeace: 4:25pm On Mar 02, 2023
This is the season lawyers like barristers mannabbqgrils, folake4u, and co will make money from politicians
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 4:27pm On Mar 02, 2023
Voltron007:
Just one question: Since the Act already gave INEC the power to create guidelines for the elections. Is INEC not bound/liable to the guidelines they released to the general public?
Someone said that they are not ooo..
That it is only the Electoral Act that matters.



So,, they are telling us that we should just forget about INEC and all their guidelines.
They are of no use.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by yaki84: 4:28pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
Please explain better to me..
Let me understand what the Phrase “DIRECTLY FROM POLLING UNITS” in Section-64(4)-(a-&-b).. And also, in Section-64(5) Actually means...




...
Meanwhile,, both the Electoral Act (Section -64(6)..) and the INEC-Guidelines made it compulsory that the “DIRECTLY” Transmitted Results must be a part of the Electoral Process for the sole purpose of “Verification”, and that it should be made available after the elections to anyone who demands for the data and paid the stipulated fee.
Lets be clear on this term Transmission..

Transmitting manually and electronically is the same if and oonly if what is transmitted doesnt lose value and is in its original form.
On this context there was glitch with the bvas during transmission of the presidential result, which made inec to resort manual transmission of result from the PU to ward collation centres to the local govt collation centres to the state centres before it was transmitted to the national collation centre.

Did this process even though bulky and cumbersome, did it change the original form of these results in the PUs?

If it did, what did the agents of these parties do to address this?
If they haveenough evidence, u seek legal redress than saying the entire process should be cancel

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 4:31pm On Mar 02, 2023
thegrinch:



100% true... but How long it can take or not is not in the electoral act.

So where results transmitted electronically from polling units ? Yes... Did they eventually get transmitted to the portal? Yes.

You could argue that it took 48 hours or more... But it can also be argued that due process was followed, and glitches in the system slowed the process.
Read the long original post again.


The Results are supposed to be “Transmitted DIRECTLY from the Polling Units”,, even before the Election Materials are LATER delivered (under tight security) to designated persons...

So,, let the transmission happen first.
Then, the delivery of the materials can happen later..


Or, does “DIRECTLY From the Polling-Units” have another meaning to you??

About Disputes...
Once there are DISPUTES in “Collation”,, these results that were “Transmitted” directly from the Polling-units were still to be referenced in order to solve the disputes.

So, if Manual Transmission and Manual Collation had been happening all the while, then tell me... which other “results that were transmitted directly from the Polling-units” is the Electoral Act referring to again, (which actually, is supposed to be used in solving disputes in collation).??

And about the glitches..
If the Electoral Act specified the extreme importance of those results that were “transmitted directly” from the Polling-units,, then it means that the Presiding Officers are not supposed to leave the Polling-units until they have successfully completed the transmission process..

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by yaki84: 4:37pm On Mar 02, 2023
saintopus:


Manual transmission and Electronic Transmission are the two modes of delivering results.

Manual transmission is opened to fraud.

Electronic Transmission have greater accuracy than manual
Manual trtransmission is cumbersome and time wasting, e-transmission is fast..

Both r not devoid of fraud!

Thats why we have party agents in every elections to checkmate what other parties are up to.

In akwaibom Labour paarty had no visible agents, the YPP agents had to stand in for them.

What could be so difficult in the structureless entity appointing volunteers to stand in in such a crucial occassion.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by onuman: 4:38pm On Mar 02, 2023
Putindbutt:

Cancel the entire votes from Rivets, Obi would still not come second. As long as he will never win SW and North, he can never be President and he knows it too.

You still don't get it.
It doesn't matter if Obi or whoever doesn't win, but let the election be conducted as prescribed by INEC through its Chairman, Mammood, earlier before the election started.

Mammood told all that the election results would be transmitted directly to INEC portal from the polling units. But he breached the trust in voters and used manual transmission of results, as INEC later explained.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 4:39pm On Mar 02, 2023
fergie001:


I think you have explained it all. The INEC Guidelines is bound by the 1999 CFRN.

What the Supreme Court has said is that the guidelines itself cannot override the Electoral Act.
Thanks so much..



Someone said that the INEC GUIDELINES is totally useless..
That the Supreme-Court said so.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 4:40pm On Mar 02, 2023
senatordave1:


You are only deceiving yourself.whichever form of transmission employed by inec is legal
You're not the Court.



So relax.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Lordatkinson: 4:40pm On Mar 02, 2023
We all know the truth. Even the winning party and her candidates, know the truth. Let us wait for the court/tribunal to interprete all the aforementioned sections of the electoral act.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by SunmibareARC: 4:41pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
I also hope that I have done justice to the INEC’s concepts of the “IREV-Portal” and that of the “CSRVS Collation System”..




**MODIFIED....

For Those That Are Saying One-or-Two Things About “MANUAL TRANSMISSION”....




I really do not agree with your assertion...
Transmission (To send or convey from one person or place to another)

Moving the result sheets from the respective PUs to the local government is Transmission (of that particular document)


I stand corrected though
(... Just because the phrase “Transmitted DIRECTLY From The Polling Units”, didn't have the word “Electronically” inserted inside it, nor had any form of technological innovation expressed in the phrase ...)

The truth is..
There is nothing like the so-called Manual Transmission mentioned inside the Electoral Act Either..
Thus, there is no need assuming it At-all..

In fact, the usage of the phrase in the Act and functions of the so-called “Transmission” best describes an “Electronic Transmission” more than it describes a “Manual Transmission”.


..
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Doyou2019: 4:45pm On Mar 02, 2023
Goke7:


me I want them to go to court o, someone wey no meet the requirements of the spread, how he wan win for court

No offence but you talk like a dumb kidult . An election was heavily rigged against him, yet you expect him to make requirements of one yeye spread.
How, with an unjust handicap, is he expected to do that?

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by EXPRESSSMAN: 4:47pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:



Now let's look at it from another perspective..

Let us assume that the “Transmission” as mentioned in the Electoral Act is NOT Electronic Transmission...


Was Manual Transmission mentioned in the Act??

Because, we could also assume spiritual transmission, or even mental transmission..

The Electoral Act from all indications implies two results, one transmitted from the polling unit and the other collated by the Returning officer. Such that one could be used for verification when announcing the result. The question is, did INEC has two results for verification whether transmitted manually or electronically? They don't. There was no transmission as required by the electoral act. It was just a one-way result which the electoral act is against. This is the crux of the matter.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by felixawe(m): 4:49pm On Mar 02, 2023
senatordave1:


It is simple.transmission can be manual or electronic.not transmitting it electronically does not invalidate the result.non transmission invalidates the results

What's transmit meant by INEC. Inec need not use ambiguous word.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by senatordave1(m): 4:49pm On Mar 02, 2023
babajero:
All Labour party needs to do is to show at least 20 video evidences where votes counted at the local government is different from what inec announced and the court will declare them winner, and I believe there are hundreds of such videos and altered result sheets in favour of APC.

Not true.they will only declare those particular results void
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by senatordave1(m): 4:53pm On Mar 02, 2023
felixawe:


What's transmit meant by INEC. Inec need not use ambiguous word.

What does the dictionary mean about transmit
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by senatordave1(m): 4:54pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
You're not the Court.



So relax.

True but in this case, there are precedents and the courts will follow them
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by senatordave1(m): 4:54pm On Mar 02, 2023
GerogeI:

You cannot transmit a record directly from the polling unit in a manual form, to do so means to go from your polling unit to INEC register in Abuja for submission. So transmission, qualified by "directly form polling unit" intrinsically excludes any form of manual delivery by paper.

Not true.what does the word transmit itself means?
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by senatordave1(m): 4:57pm On Mar 02, 2023
EXPRESSSMAN:


The Electoral Act from all indications implies two results, one transmitted from the polling unit and the other collated by the Returning officer. Such that one could be used for verification when announcing the result. The question is, did INEC has two results for verification whether transmitted manually or electronically? They don't. There was no transmission as required by the electoral act. It was just a one-way result which the electoral act is against. This is the crux of the matter.

Not true.results were actually transmitted but not all
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 4:58pm On Mar 02, 2023
senatordave1:


True but in this case, there are precedents and the courts will follow them
Let the court do their best (or their worst).
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 5:05pm On Mar 02, 2023
EXPRESSSMAN:


The Electoral Act from all indications implies two results, one transmitted from the polling unit and the other collated by the Returning officer. Such that one could be used for verification when announcing the result. The question is, did INEC has two results for verification whether transmitted manually or electronically? They don't. There was no transmission as required by the electoral act. It was just a one-way result which the electoral act is against. This is the crux of the matter.
You got my argument..



It's as if na only you that clearly understood what I was trying to say all these while..

The Directly transmitted results (and those of accreditation data) were supposed to be the secondary (hidden -- but a supposedly more authentic and untampered) results which are supposed to be used to verify the normal collations that were done by the various collation officers..


Thus, whichever way they transmitted it and instantly deployed its use whenever it would be needed for the settling of collation-disputes; is nobody’s business,, but it must be transmitted directly from the Polling Units,, and be used for verifications, and for the settling of disputes whenever there are disputes in the collation process..




Thus, INEC didn't transmit results directly from the Polling-Units,, neither did they use such directly transmitted results (if at-all they claim that they did) to settle all the disputes that were raised...
They didn't settle any dispute at any point in the collation process.

THE INEC CLEARLY FLOUTED THE ELECTORAL ACT..

Thank You So Much For Understanding The Whole Narrative..

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by emmnprince(m): 5:06pm On Mar 02, 2023
Putindbutt:

Loser, go and respond in court and stop disturbing us with your stupid threads.

This thread isn't stupid. It is informative. At least I have picked "one or two" things from what OP explained with quotes and from various commentators.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by TheOldGods: 5:07pm On Mar 02, 2023
Drealman20:

Oga shut up.. Remove 3 states, Tinubu stil won

He won 25% in over 29 States
but it's not 3 states brother. Let's do the maths together can we. Remove Lagos, remove imo, remove porthcourt, remove nasarawa, remove benue, remove akwaibom, remove platue, remove fct, remove kogi and ekiti, what about edo and Benin? Is tinubu still winning sire?
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by 0monnak0da: 5:10pm On Mar 02, 2023
The point is what remedy should the court give
Is none transmission enough to cancel the results and trigger another election?
Would those shouting about it say different it the results favoured them?
I have no doubt if Obi had won Tinubu would be saying the same thing

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Simeonjoe1: 5:11pm On Mar 02, 2023
babajero:
All Labour party needs to do is to show at least 20 video evidences where votes counted at the local government is different from what inec announced and the court will declare them winner, and I believe there are hundreds of such videos and altered result sheets in favour of APC.

No you need thousands of evidence.
In the constitution a few hundreds of proof is not enough to alter the original score. Hence you'll need proof in all LGA that shows you have the highest number and spread.
This is no easy work!!! It can take months or years

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