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Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Legendguy(m): 11:33am On Mar 07, 2023 |
Just like Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour that contesting for governor of Lagos, Funsho Doherty also running for governor of Lagos bears an English surname. Former lagos governorship candidate, Funsho Williams bears an English surname, compared to typical yorubas from south west hinterlands that bears their native surname. Is there a reason for true lagosians to bear foreign surnames while making their first name yoruba name? 1 Like |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by PoliteActivist: 11:41am On Mar 07, 2023 |
You are the only one who doesn't know that when slave trade ended, there were slave ships caught through the years. Slaves on those ships were re-settled in coastal big cities like Lagos. Most of the slaves now bore their masters' surnames 19 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by SHIVA001: 11:44am On Mar 07, 2023 |
Some of them were returned slaves. Not all. Na the ones whose name popular. Na the egba clan, Aworis get lagos 7 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Legendguy(m): 11:48am On Mar 07, 2023 |
[quote author=Legendguy post=121543550]Just like Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour that contesting for governor of Lagos, Funsho Doherty also running for governor of Lagos bears an English surname. Former lagos governorship candidate, Funsho Williams bears an English surname, compared to typical yorubas from south west hinterlands that bears their native surname. Is there a reason for true Parisians to bear foreign surnames while making their first name yoruba name? |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Legendguy(m): 11:49am On Mar 07, 2023 |
PoliteActivist: I'm learning every day I am not an history student Yes you are right, like the randle family 4 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by VeryWickedGoat: 12:11pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
This is why we say Lagos is a no-man's land because the true Lagosians are not even pure Nigerians. Lagosians are slaves that returned or escaped from Brazil, Jamaica, Benin, Togo, Liberia & co. Some of these slaves are even Igbo, Calabar, Benin, Ijaw slaves that were transported via Badagry. Their names are mostly Portuguese or English like Pedro, Rhodes, Williams, Campos, Bucknor & co. Tinubu, Obanikoro, Sanwo-Olu and co are typical Osogbo names!! 15 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by optionalY09: 12:18pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
those are the ones that were houseboy to the english slave masters. The slave masters changes their names just like you will rename your jack “joko” |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by siofra(f): 12:23pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Holloway, Fernandez, Silva etc... Very strange names. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by cktheluckyman: 12:25pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Tinubu, Obanikoro, Sanwo-Olu and co are typical Osogbo names!! I however think Obanikoro is an indigenous lagosian 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Legendguy(m): 12:30pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
VeryWickedGoat: Da Costa too 1 Like |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by laiperi: 2:07pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Most of them were not and have never been slaves. Ajayi Crowther ship was captured on the sea and returned before reaching slave plantation. English or Portuguese names were not different from Muslim names given after they have been converted to Christianity or Islam. It was a pride to have Christian or Muslim names throughout Africa. Christians and Muslims, foolishly, still take pride in it today as first or last names. Most Yoruba know their Yoruba family name and more important, their ORIKI. Any Lagosian without ORIKI or Yoruba names is not from Lagos. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Parachoko: 2:08pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
I can see the Oba of Lagos have a foreign and English name 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by baralatie(m): 2:10pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
You don't even know the true families of lagos.so make I leave you for ya ignorance 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by renderme: 2:11pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
This is a lie. Lagosians consist of aworis in Lagos island (Eko), ijebus in epe, ikorodu and other parts of the mainland. Eguns in badagry (they are not yorubas). All these people don’t have English names. The lagosians with English names are SARO’s, returnees of the slave trade, that were taken from egbaland. They returned to seirra Leone from North and South America, and found their way back to Lagos as they did not know the egba town their fathers were taken from. They are also yorubas. . 4 Likes
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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by baralatie(m): 2:12pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Parachoko:Why you dey teach am na! He does not know the history of indigenous families in kagos All he is doing is just talking nonsense |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Kaiser20: 2:17pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Lagos naa mixture of everything for everyone. I pity those Agberos claiming Lagos belongs to their Papa. |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by christejames(m): 2:18pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Interesting question and nice answers so far... |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Buhari4sale: 2:22pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Because Lagos is a name given to Eko by the whites and their slaves were the first elites of Lagos. That's why some people dey shout say na outsiders dey Lord over Lagos indigenes. The Lagos true son of the soil were stack illiterates... Na now dey just dey open eyes after then don read small. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by VeryWickedGoat: 2:29pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Legendguy: The name Lagos itself is Portuguese. Slave name. |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by totit: 2:30pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
My maternal grandfather's surname is Tiamiyu so what are you talking about? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by DMerciful(m): 2:31pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Aworis get the part of Lagos they ocuppy, not the entire Lagos. Yorubas are immigrants to Lagos, they only came earlier and were accommodated too 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Idiko1: 2:40pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Legendguy: They were returnees (freed Slaves) whom British colonialists brought from Sierra Leone to Lagos to assist in the administration of Lagos as a Colony. It is based on this circumstance that Yoruba erroneously claimed to be more educated than any tribe in Nigeria. Actually, Yoruba are the least educated based on tribal nativity. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by a4cube: 2:40pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Is Bode George a returnee? What about Bode Thomas, Bank Anthony, Sapara Williams. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by a4cube: 2:42pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
laiperi:If this true why is Crowther his surname? 1 Like |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Idiko1: 2:46pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
a4cube: Yes, including Johnson, Moore, Jones, Davis, Crowther, Macaulay, etc. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Idiko1: 2:51pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
laiperi: Arrant nonsense!!! He was a slave boy from Nupe ethnicity. He was already sold into slavery and parked into a ship and rescued on the high sea by anti-slavery unit of British Navy. |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by laiperi: 2:51pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
He had Yoruba name. Google it. His Christian name is Crowther a4cube: 1 Like |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by Idiko1: 2:54pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
VeryWickedGoat: Yes, Lagos is Portuguese for Lagon, it is not a salve name. |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by PoliteActivist: 2:56pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
a4cube: All originated with returnees. So also Herbert Macaulay 1 Like |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by VeryWickedGoat: 3:04pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Idiko1: How is it not a slave name? Which Naija tribe speaks Portuguese? 3 Likes
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Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by AyakaDunukofia: 3:31pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
VeryWickedGoat: Lagos is not a no man's land. Original Lagos Island indigenes were Binis. However, the island is geographically closest to the Yorubas. It's history is that of migrations and cross migrations. Most of the slave returnees can be found in port and river port cities in Nigeria. In Onitsha the Doherty, Williams, Costa, Kuti, Moore, Venn, Johnson families etc formed the ninth village called Ogbe Otu. These families were related to their name sakes in Warri and Lagos. However, the modern descendants no longer nuture the affinity. |
Re: Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? by renderme: 3:36pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
AyakaDunukofia:Shut up and say what U know O. There was no time binis ever settled in Lagos island (Eko). The indigenes of Lagos island were ALWAYS aworis. The Benin monarchy had a war camp on Lagos island wt soldiers, they didn't have any indigenes there at all. 3 Likes |
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