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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:53pm On Mar 10, 2023
Havertz10:
Oshimen would flop in England, I have watched him multiple times, he benefits of service, it’s the same problem that haaland and lukaku have, once you nullify their service, they would struggle

To be clear, i’m not advocating for Havertz to play as the 9, I have already stated that I would prefer it if he was more involved in proceedings than playing up front alone, granted he drops deep to link up play but let’s be real, he isn’t a striker, plus there is so much to his game that it’s a waste using him as a striker

If haaland can struggle in England with a team that is as organized as city, I wonder what’s fueling the assumption that a player that averages less than 10 completed passes a game like osimhen would excel and is the missing link to complete Chelsea, we have seen this movie before

If we must get a striker then it has to be someone that would be more involved, I wouldn’t mind kolo Muani
Ova200
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 3:58pm On Mar 10, 2023
Eazzii:
Ova200
I'm not going to answer for what another moniker type word for word please.

You can read my first post about this where I clearly stated outside his goals which got some people mad.

And I'm defending what I said with my full chest.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 4:00pm On Mar 10, 2023
OVA200:
Good angle.

But please read my reply to nateev I think it answer this.
No, it doesn't. Haaland is the highest scorer in the best league in the world in his first season at age 22.

He has developed his goal-scoring skills to near perfection and that alone can make him win the Balon D'or if he continues at this level even without developing his other aspects of the game.

Even so, his young age gives him time to develop on other aspects. He's a potential world's best player award winner.

If Man City wins the UCL with Haaland making key contribution, he has a good shot at winning the prestigious award.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 4:09pm On Mar 10, 2023
A001:

No, it doesn't. Haaland is the highest scorer in the best league in the world in his first season at age 22.

He has developed his goal-scoring skills to near perfection and that alone can make him win the Balon D'or if he continues at this level even without developing his other aspects of the game.

Even so, his young age gives him time to develop on other aspects. He's a potential world's best player award winner.

If Man City wins the UCL with Haaland making key contribution, he has a good shot at winning the prestigious award.

This is another topic entirely.
Winning the ballon dor is not the discussion.

Kaka is a ballon dor winner but behind iniesta, Xavi in midfield hall of Fame.

Cannavaro is a world best player but behind maldini baresi in defence hall of Fame.

The situation and circumstances to win ballon dor is kind of complicated.

But since you agree their some aspect of his game that is not up to par with the elite number 9 then we are cool.

Wether he will develop it or not is for another day.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 4:14pm On Mar 10, 2023
OVA200:
This is another topic entirely.
Winning the ballon dor is not the discussion.

Kaka is a ballon dor winner but behind iniesta, Xavi in midfield hall of Fame.

Cannavaro is a world best player but behind maldini baresi in defence hall of Fame.

The situation and circumstances to win ballon dor is kind of complicated.

But since you agree their some aspect of his game that is not up to par with the elite number 9 then we are cool.

Wether he will develop it or not is for another day.
Who are these elite number 9s and how are old are they? How old is Haaland?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:22pm On Mar 10, 2023
Shegzdave:

Is this picture real or photoshopped??

You mean vini pic ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:23pm On Mar 10, 2023
Borntosmoke:



As in I go dey wonder how some people dey reason?? grin grin grin. Someone that have about 4 hatricks this season is struggling in man city.

He doesn’t play for their club

Many of them here said he would flop after watching the community shield against Liverpool grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 4:24pm On Mar 10, 2023
A001:

Who are these elite number 9s and how are old are they? How old is Haaland?
Guy are you sure you read my reply to nateev.

Lewandowski, Kane, Suarez, benzema they might be older but right from their young years they've shown those qualities, it might not be as good as they are now but definitely better than what halland is showing now.

Mbappe as a case study right from his first game as a Monaco player he has shown those qualities we all applaud him for now.
He got better but he showed them aplenty then.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 4:27pm On Mar 10, 2023
OVA200:
Guy are you sure you read my reply to nateev.

Lewandowski, Kane, Suarez, benzema they might be older but right from their young years they've shown those qualities, it might not be as good as they are now but definitely better than what halland is showing now.

Mbappe as a case study right from his first game as a Monaco player he has shown those qualities we all applaud him for now.
He got better but he showed them aplenty then.
So, Haaland, one of the top 5 strikers in the world and one of the top 2 most valuable players in the world, is not an elite striker but Kane is. Tell me another joke.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ellexy: 4:29pm On Mar 10, 2023
OVA200:
Bro you are spinning this thing now.

You said outside goal nothing matter for football again because goals give win.
And I tell you their is a lot football offers outside goals.

Now you are mentioning chance created, more skill, more dribble, more tackles remember all this can happen in a match and their will still be no goal.

Stick to goals is all football get to offer mantra no amala turning.
You can have goal and still not win.

This is so easy to see and you are only trying to be smart by half.
Nawa oo, you still don't get it do you? It doesn't matter the shaku shaku or skills or passes any player or team displays. If all these can't help put the ball at the back of the net or at least prevent your opponents from doing so, it's useless.

The goal is to score and win, every other tool or tactics deployed is to the achievement of that goal. Football itself is designed to have a winner, that's why there are champions at the end of the day.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 4:38pm On Mar 10, 2023
A001:

So, Haaland, one of the top 5 strikers in the world and one of the top 2 most valuable players in the world, is not an elite striker but Kane is. Tell me another joke.
Are we debating elite strikers or aspect of halland game?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 4:41pm On Mar 10, 2023
OVA200:
Are we debating elite strikers or aspect of halland game?
Na you dey make ridiculous statements all about. What makes Kane an elite striker and Haaland non-elite?

This is the ridiculous statement made by Havertz10: "Haaland is struggling in the PL".

That's the bone of contention. It seems you don't know that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:41pm On Mar 10, 2023
A001:

So, Haaland, one of the top 5 strikers in the world and one of the top 2 most valuable players in the world, is not an elite striker but Kane is. Tell me another joke.

grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 4:44pm On Mar 10, 2023
Ellexy:
Nawa oo, you still don't get it do you? It doesn't matter the shaku shaku or skills or passes any player or team displays. If all these can't help put the ball at the back of the net or at least prevent your opponents from doing so, it's useless.

The goal is to score and win, every other tool or tactics deployed is to the achievement of that goal. Football itself is designed to have a winner, that's why there are champions at the end of the day.
All this turning is tiring go back and read what brought about this argument in the first place.

I spoke about halland weakness and you counter that all what matter in football is putting the ball at the back of the net and the rest is useless but here you are talking about dribbling, tackling, creativity.

Can halland dribble?
Can he create quality chances?

Then why are arguing with me in the first place.

I gave you list to choose your greatest Midfielder you run away because of your flawed logic.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:49pm On Mar 10, 2023
He say na can haaland create. ;
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 4:49pm On Mar 10, 2023
A001:

Na you dey make ridiculous statements all about. What makes Kane an elite striker and Haaland non-elite?

This is the ridiculous statement made by Havertz10: "Haaland is struggling in the PL".

That's the bone of contention. It seems you don't know that.
Then if that is the bone of contention then why arguing with me instead of him.

Quote him and make your displeasure known not me.

Ooh I'm not even the one that make the statement that driving you mad.
You really wasted my time and it makes no sense.

If you have any reasonable point to counter any of my assertion then let me know.

Shalom.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:50pm On Mar 10, 2023
CrystalTiger:
If you're ever in need of very ridiculous opinions about football, just enter Chelsea thread..

Today's own be say, the only primary thing about a striker, which is scoring, is considered secondary undecided..

When hensben airmark and co head the citadel what do you expect

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:54pm On Mar 10, 2023
E Dey ask weda Haaland fit create or dribble

Una for no discard timo Werner nah ,since striker no he about scoring goals grin

Too many ridiculous football opinions here
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:55pm On Mar 10, 2023
When you begin to hear opinion from hesben, ballzproblem and that dude arguing. grin grin grin. You will begin to doubt yourself may be na another football you dey watch

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 4:55pm On Mar 10, 2023
OVA200:
Then if that is the bone of contention then why arguing with me instead of him.

Quote him and make your displeasure known not me.

Ooh I'm not even the one that make the statement that driving you mad.
You really wasted my time and it makes no sense.

If you have any reasonable point to counter any of my assertion then let me know.

Shalom.
Havertz10 said Haaland is struggling in the PL and you said you agree with him. Abi you don forget wetin you said just a little while ago.

All this una argument wey dey ridiculous
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:55pm On Mar 10, 2023
andrewbaba44:
E Dey ask weda Haaland fit create or dribble

Una for no discard timo Werner nah ,since striker no he about scoring goals grin

Too many ridiculous football opinions here

As in I can't just can grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:59pm On Mar 10, 2023
Na nairaland make me no say most of people that write long epistle always end up saying nothing grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:04pm On Mar 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


When hensben airmark and co head the citadel what do you expect

Everybody knows how I ridiculed your bag of beans, Benzema, for not scoring 25+ league goals in a season, for close to 20 seasons. Were you not the one giving excuses upon excuses to defend the goal-shy striker, telling us it wasn't all about goals?

You are the leader of those defending goal-shy strikers playing for great clubs and never scored 30 league goals in a season, not me.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 5:11pm On Mar 10, 2023
A001:

Havertz10 said Haaland is struggling in the PL and you said you agree with him. Abi you don forget wetin you said just a little while ago.

All this una argument wey dey ridiculous
Mehn

So all this while you are arguing with me it's because you can't comprehend what I wrote.
Jesus.

First is that the only point havertz.10 make? NO.

I wrote clearly that I agree with him to a large extent, does that mean I agree with all his point line by line?

And I still went ahead to state my view on Halland and osimhen as well; about halland I clearly stated that "OUTSIDE GOALS" he is not doing too well because other aspect of his game that makes City lacking.

But you ignore MY OWN POINT and you are arguing with me about another man's point.

You are absolutely dumb.
Honestly you are irritating.
My post is below read it word for word.

My last post to you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 5:17pm On Mar 10, 2023
Is what I wrote down here so difficult to understand.

Is other aspect of halland making city suffer? Yes.
Can a striker good at one aspect and lack at others? Yes
Does this undermine halland? No

Then what in God's name is you people's problem.
Let havertz10 bear his cross while I bear mine why are attacking me because of his line.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 5:22pm On Mar 10, 2023
Typing trash with confidence. Apart from goals, Harry Kane isn't even better than Emenike.

Fool. What's the primary duty of a striker if not to score goals? Clown.

One retard said the highest scorer in the league with 27 goals in 25 games is struggling in the league.

And another imbẹcile supported him that take away Haaland's goals, his performance isn't that good.

If not goals, what makes him a striker then? Imbe
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:22pm On Mar 10, 2023
airmark:


Everybody knows how I ridiculed your bag of beans, Benzema, for not scoring 25+ league goals in a season, for close to 20 seasons. Were you not the one giving excuses upon excuses to defend the goal-shy striker, telling us it wasn't all about goals?

You are the leader of those defending goal-shy strikers playing for great clubs and never scored 30 league goals in a season, not me.

You don move from 25+ to 30+

Benzema led his team to winning the CL as the top scorer in the competition brutally molesting your club on the way to

How many times did Aguero Drogba and Belotti score 30 league goals plus

The record of goals scored in a single season in EPL is 32 by Salah so if its done easily why dont they do it regularly

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:31pm On Mar 10, 2023
OVA200:
Mehn

So all this while you are arguing with me it's because you can't comprehend what I wrote.
Jesus.

First is that the only point havertz.10 make? NO.

I wrote clearly that I agree with him to a large extent, does that mean I agree with all his point line by line?

And I still went ahead to state my view on Halland and osimhen as well; about halland I clearly stated that "OUTSIDE GOALS" he is not doing too well because other aspect of his game that makes City lacking.

But you ignore MY OWN POINT and you are arguing with me about another man's point.

You are absolutely dumb.
Honestly you are irritating.
My post is below read it word for word.

My last post to you.


I really commend you for really trying to reply all this mentions that aims to put words in your mouth rather understanding the context of your clear message.. Your statement is clear enough for anyone not looking for agenda and cheap likes,so allow them to make a mountain of a mole hill of the statement you already clarified.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 5:42pm On Mar 10, 2023
popizaino:



I really commend you for really trying to reply all this mentions that aims to put words in your mouth rather understanding the context of your clear message.. Your statement is clear enough for anyone not looking for agenda and cheap likes,so allow them to make a mountain of a mole hill of the statement you already clarified.
Bro
Seriously I'm tired, is their any player without weakness or above criticism.

People criticize Messi for his inability to use his weaker foot or heading.
People criticize Ronaldo for relative lesser vision than Messi or kdb.
People criticize adres lujan iniesta for his poor finishing.
People criticize Ngolo kante for his average passing and shooting ability.

If those great player can be criticize then who on God's green earth is Halland.

But the Cruz of the matter is; is it a fair criticism or not?

I don't criticize player unjustly.
I will take halland ahead of many young strikers today but is he a complete package yet? NO.

And those loud-mouthed empty and useless drum are just not reasonable enough to know not all criticism is hatred.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 5:49pm On Mar 10, 2023
Haaland struggles against top teams, any team that is worth it’s salt would easily nullify haaland, united used Fred to man mark kdb and haaland was taken out of the game, against Chelsea most here were panicking that he would score 4, couldn’t do shit against Chelsea

Numerous professional have argued that he has been a net negative to the team

Here is a clip of Henry talking about it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6kZxbTdCs

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:50pm On Mar 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


You don move from 25+ to 30+

Benzema led his team to winning the CL as the top scorer in the competition brutally molesting your club on the way to

How many times did Aguero Drogba and Belotti score 30 league goals plus

The record of goals scored in a single season in EPL is 32 by Salah so if its done easily why dont they do it regularly

I had to reduce the 30 goals expectation to 25 and Benzema couldn't do it for like 17 seasons. So I am not one of you that make excuses for non-scoring strikers. Look elsewhere.

Benzema playing for an attacking team like Madrid, for close to 20 seasons, and couldn't do 30 league goals in a season, is disgusting. undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:08pm On Mar 10, 2023
airmark:


I had to reduce the 30 goals expectation to 25 and Benzema couldn't do it for like 17 seasons. So I am not one of you that make excuses for non-scoring strikers. Look elsewhere.

Benzema playing for an attacking team like Madrid, for close to 20 seasons, and couldn't do 30 league goals in a season, is disgusting. undecided

Aguero how many times did he score 30 plus league goals, How many times did Henry score more than 30 league goals in his entire career were they playing in defensive teams

If the record for all time per season in EPL is 32 goals should tell you how reasonable 30 goals a season is

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